#55 tall HHO bubbler construction details

[EEguy85]

connect your bubbler to your ass free energy believers

[juaantoniocastro65]

por fabor tambien en espanol...........

[crusty529]

mip ? npt .

[crusty529]

iv'e tryed this method , works great !

[SuperAceofspace]

Thank for the tip's

[iracus9024]

y in the fuck is there an add?

[ZeroFossilFuel]

@iracus9024 just to piss you off.

[cypress1337]

i got an add too, i hate that.

[hookuspookus529]

nice astron 

[Yragsiveb]

Ever heard of a thread tap?  Get a clue and use a the right tool, ya tool.

[Masowai]

@Yragsiveb Totally. But I can only assume he didn't have the right size tap. But, he could have at least busted out the Dremel and made his own tap by cutting a slot lengthwise on that fitting.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

@Masowai Now that's a constructive idea! Wish I had thought of that at the time. :-\

[HydroFred]

Check out what you can do with HHO. The HydroGun, it's a blast.

[gideonmor]

check this out:

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i had got me one after research and found it to b the best system in a reasonable price to!!, been saving about 26 percent on fuel costs since.

good luck to all gideon mor

[EisBlade]

Hey Zero, are you still using this type of bubbler for your system or have you modified/improved the design? That looks like 2in PVC. I've copied most of this design for mine minus the straw which I'll be adding next. It looks like you used one of the larger diameter straws out there rather then the skinny ones. Also, have you messed with having a fish tank air stone at the bottom of your straw to diffuse the hho into smaller bubbles for better scrubbing? Keep up the great work. *thumbs up*

[jarlog1979]

so what happens to your car when the bubbler explodes, are you going to be able to drive home, because you know, you changed the info, from your oxy sensor.

[chickenscratch69]

Can you tell me how well this unit worked in whatever vehicle you used it in? I am very interested in building one for myself and need to gather some good info. Thanks.

[Phage0070]

@chickenscratch69

HHO is a well-known scam. All units result in a net loss of efficiency, no matter what.

[EisBlade]

@Phage0070 Your ignorance on this matter is obvious. Do a lot more reading or better yet - buy one and run it on your vehicle. My bet is that you'll actually learn something worth posting about. Good luck.

[Phage0070]

@EisBlade

Burning hydrogen generated from water cannot, nor ever will, generate more power than is required to separate it in the first place. It is simply chemically impossible. Period.

[EisBlade]

@EisBlade ...not to mention being able to also successfully trick your air and emissions systems so the ECU doesn't respond by adding more fuel but reducing it instead.

It's hard to ignore how so many sites selling boosters read like daggone infomercials. It's comical yet frustrating too, as those sites actually deter someone interested in experimenting with a system of their own. If you really want to learn as well as interact with hardcore testers, check out the HHO Underground. Later!

[combustiblegratis]

look at my frankfurter bubbler... ; )

[pannike]

I hate to point out the seemingly obvious, but if your such a proponent of HHO why are you using a propane torch?

[ZeroFossilFuel]

@pannike Forgive me for pointing out the obvious but A) HHO is too hot to work with plastics and B) Even if it wasn't, the HHO generator is not assembled yet.

Duh.

[pannike]

@ZeroFossilFuel I dont recall saying anything about plastic's, you mean you dont have a few basic models from your design and experimentation stage kicking around ?

[TarantulaHand]

@ZeroFossilFuel I'll make a vid and upload to show a new arcrylic multi cell bubbler design with diffusers, baffles and a flashback valve. Not knocking yours but I want to share this with the rest of the HHO world. My camera sux so I'll borrow my aunt's.

[digitallyhere]

@ZeroFossilFuel you can burn it with propane :) depends if you have sharp/burred edges on the pvc. the pvc initially turns rubber bfore it burns.

[kr4zzyf3113r08]

HHO Gas, hydroxy, or commonly referred to as "browns gas" contains 3 times the energy of gasoline. With an efficient HHO generator, you will be able to supplement your cars engine with this powerful gas at the cost of some current draw. Efficient designs have been able to produce significant gas production with less than 12 amps of current draw. Far less energy than what is consumed with a cars audio system.

[revolxaohemwolb]

"HHO" is a HHOax. These silly things take more energy from the crankshaft than they return. They will REDUCE fuel economy, but will NEVER increase it! Not unless you can find a 100% efficient alternator belt, 100% efficient alternator, 100% efficient electrolyser and a 100% efficient internal combustion engine, "HHO" systems won't do so much as break even. The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics says 'no free lunch!'

[masterofmonks]

While I agree with you, you aren't just going to bolt an HHO generator to your car and get free energy. That does not mean that HHO is a hoax. The way it is marketed is misleading, yes. But if you actually provide for the limitations you could in practice run a vehicle off of HHO. Though that would be seriously impractical, it would require a source of energy other than the alternator A small bank of solar panels *might* do the trick. But how much are you going to spend to run your car on water?

[clflyguy]

revolxaohemwolb- Son, you seem to be somewhat out of the loop ... They DO work, and work well. I could not begin to explain why they work from from a mathematics only standpoint as you seem to rely on, but perhaps you and the rest of the "No Free Lunch - Math Only - Laws Of Thermodynamics Naysayers" are leaving some vital variable or function or exponent out of your precious equations? The reason I say this is because you continue to ignore tons of positive results right in front of your eyes.

[warlocks789]

buy a tap 1/4" NPT drill hole a lot easier

[kentek2007]

alt-nrg org

[kentek2007]

point prooven

[kentek2007]

What the fuck we're allowed to swear here but I can't post a link telling people where to find him now? Fucking bullshit!

[Jimmeh30]

a1mint.... are they benificial??? Sorry I was thinking you may have had a clue. "are they benificial?" what do you think?

[a1mint]

Does anyone actually think HHO in cars are beneficial?

[col1n1234]

I have found your video's so interesting, I run a 2 cylinder 500cc diesel Kubota, what size HHO generator would you suggest? It is fitted to a car called an Aixam 500 and on the motorway I can get 90+mpg but would like to see how high I can get the mpg with the dry fuel cell, any info would be much appreciated,

colin

[MrRapsahaybu]

before even tweeking your mumbo jumbo gadgets , have you ever studied the behavior of of HHO GAS ?  IT'S POSSIBLE! , IT'S SIMPLE ! IT'S AVAILABLE ! JUST USE GAS FROM COMMERCIAL BOTTLES! IF YOU ARE SERIOUS , MAKE AN EXPERIMEMENT AND FIND OUT THAT " HYDROGEN IS THE RAL THING NOT hho JUST HYDROGEN !!!! CHEERS

[mngopa]

if only someone could tell us exactly how to tweak the cpu to ensure that when the HHO is burnt in the engine, the o2 sensor won't undo the benefits by pumping in more gas due to the presence of more o2?

there's alot of theories out there on how to do this and none of them seems to be sure.

any takers?

[firenbarbedwire]

What about when ricers who do NO2 injections into their engines. Don't they reprogram or is it just that they don't do it for a sustained period of time so it doesn't matter. Find out what ricers and drag racers do when they are running NOs.

[kriegmeister3000]

I did work out for the 4th of july making hho bombs out of balloons

[kriegmeister3000]

I've given up on this hho stuff I got as far as muniplulating my map sensor not the o2 sencor then the gas prices dropped considerably right now we are talking 235 a gallon.

[CLAYTONTHEBRAIN]

release it with less electricity, 0.037 Volts instead of the 1.23 Volts needed for water.

One molecule of urea, a component of urine, contains four atoms of hydrogen bonded to two atoms of nitrogen. Stick a special nickel electrode into a pool of urine, apply an electrical current, and hydrogen gas is released.

Botte's current prototype measures 3x3x1 inch and can produce up to 500 milliwatts of power.

[sodapop503]

too much bi-product.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Actually, Discovery Channel got it wrong and everyone else just regurgitated it. The actual voltage is 0.37. I have the test data from the study to prove it.

[Extrordinary1]

have you removed your website on angelfire? I keep getting an error message saying the site doesn't exist now. I was going after your free details.

I would like to use this bubbler in my home unit, not my vehicle. BTW, I do add a flame arrestor just in case.

[kriegmeister3000]

what a hack

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Yep.

[Jareen013]

Tap your cylinders on the bottom or lower than the water level, then run a copper tube up to the top area where the gas collects. The copper will not react because it has no electricity going through it. You can then route your HHO gas out the bottom and to whatever you want to send it to with much less chance of having a flash back. Since I have incorporated this procedure, I have not had any unexpected ignitions of HHO gas. Good luck guys.

[sanjima]

And to do that it looks like all you'd have to do is mount the assembly upside-down. lol

But yeah, I agree. A water seal would be excellent to use, I would definitely do the same. =D

[Jareen013]

I would like to point out the obvious. HHO Gas is hydrogen gas. It is very hard to seal your connections. I tap in at the bottom so there is a water seal. You can see the water dripping so you know when or if you have a leak. It is much easier to stop the water drip than a gas leak. Gas leaks, if youve been doing this long, are sometimes quite excitingwith fire and noise. (end of part one)

[CLAYTONTHEBRAIN]

jarren013, i feel i need to correct a large group of you. HHO gas in not Hydrogen, it is Hydrogen mixed with oxygen and is in the most explosive state that it can be in. if you could isolate the electrodes by using two linked cells you could collect each gas seperately, this would help make the whole process slightly less volatile as there would be no oxygen for the hydrogen to react with.

i thunk this out real good dint i huh huh huh. geez i learned that in high school.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

I'm actually working on a shim cell design that incorporates an electron permeable membrane between plates to generate and collect the gases separately! Then we can vent off the O2 and compress the hydrogen safely, even refuel our brandy-new Chevy Equinox. ;-)

[dmgcat]

@ZeroFossilFuel What type of metals would it take to do this? Is it public knowledge or are you working on some kind of patent?

[issmech]

kewlicious

[jousterusa]

I just noticed today, April 6, 2009, that a Popular Mechanics article critical of HHO has kno0cked off Denny Klein and other articles dfrom the top spot. Also, the number of videos on YouTube has fallen from 32,000 about three months ago to 11,000 now (using "HHO" as the search term). Obviously, somneone powerful is manipulating the Google listings and Google (which owns YouTube) content.

[jjrd]

With all their talk about "clean" energy, the hypocrits are busy knocking off all HHO technology from the net. The guy water4gas is being sued big time by the Texas government...

[dionysus2008]

hey my cell looks exactly like that kool. mine is a 4 plate though soon modify it into a 8 plate and 3dia. pvc pipe

[RotaryPistonEngine]

This is why taps come in handy.

People save time and buy a tap, its better then using a plug for a tap.

[andorb69owner]

u could make 1 out of that lol.. that would kidna be sick

[DrewMac440]

Hey I hope you know that steel wool burns like wood, just thought I'd make it clear

[MajorUtah]

Hey [DrewMac440]

Steel wool does not burn like wood, it burns hot as hell.. "Stainless Steel Wool" on the other hand will NOT ignite under ANY spark, saturated in water or not, let alone a 300fps ignition head which obvilionates before raising the S.S.W. a single degree..

This guy's been around here a while, listen up, you might learn something.. *Xy;

Hoorah, Major Out.........

[ExplodingTeeth]

Man. I wonder how many people find these videos when looking for bongs and pipes. I personally was looking for pipe blowing, which led to bubbler blowing.

...So HHO, eh? How's that workin' out for ya?

[ChrisPCrunchy]

Could you use this to make a bong?

[ZeroFossilFuel]

More like a water pipe but I guess so. Seems like a lot of effort for something you can probably buy cheaper anyway.

[ChrisPCrunchy]

Yes but they dont make bongs that produce HHO Ive checked.

[uawwildbob]

U can make a bong out of anything. fill yur ear with herb and fire away

[ChrisPCrunchy]

Yes but a bong with explosive gases would blow your mind and give more bang for your buck (:-)

LOL Im just loking by the way

[SoSoStoned]

wtf?

[ZeroFossilFuel]

No, it's not a bong.

[SoSoStoned]

i know im aware of that.

but i still dont get wtf it is.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

It essentially does the same thing, filters a gas passing through it, condenses any vapor that might carry chemical along with the droplets and acts as an explosive flashback arrester capable of surviving repeated explosions of the Hydrogen and Oxygen gases we are producing with our electrolyzers.

[tornadomecanico]

hey dude i will be getting a ebn cell how many bubblers should i need 1 or 2 or how many to make sure i have no water vapor or dirty hho. keep up with the good work. hope to hear from you soon.

[steveman223]

nice ..so i took ur little straw idea..and im making a mini bubbler...but i understand why yours is big..due to the wool and drying..hows that working out? and how much of the straw do you usually cover with water?

[ZeroFossilFuel]

This is not a bong or a waterpipe. You're done.

[zidane444]

what stanles steel you use at the cell plate? 362?

[freedomorelse]

I can sell you an OSHA approved stainless bubbler for around $400. Top Notch Hydrogen Bubbler.

[seanjohntrading]

that would be quite uncommon but to correct it you can run the hho through a bubbler jar

[wh333t]

I read a comment on youtube that said a guys Electrolyzer blew up because his motor backfired of some sort and flame ran up through his intake and into his electrolyzer.

How does one avoid this problem? Also how does one prevent the motor from sucking up water into the motor when the intake is vacuuming?

[mytoob1671]

Re: the flashback problem, you just watched the construction of the solution. The level of the water in the bubbler won't be affected by pressure or vacuum. So it won't be sucked into the motor.

[wh333t]

I made this comment a long time ago when I just started researching this technology. For the record, my bubbler blew up when i was attempting to a run a lawn mower with it.

So I think the real solution to prevent flashbacks is flash back arrestors made from fine bronze wool.

[mytoob1671]

That may help. Let us know. In addition you might try an air stone. I am not sure how effective a check-valve would be. Anyway, it is worth doing in order to maybe save yourself from having to rebuild a popped bubbler. In the end, as the main flashback arrestor, I think the bubbler is sacrificial. More effort should be put into the design at the point of ignition. Stopping a flashback as it is occurring is inefficient and should be point of safety, not part of normal operation.

[freedomorelse]

Dryer canisters! 2 of them 3"x 10" or half that size. Just put a few inches of water in the bubblers.

[blazedkirby]

we are all waiting for the vacuum test, this will help my research out, because if u can seprate the hydrogen from the oxygen, you can store it without problem.

[mytoob1671]

Honestly, I don't think many here are interested in separating the gasses. That was kind of the old way of doing it. We want the simplicity and efficiency of common ducted oxyhydrogen created on demand.

[mytoob1671]

(re: blazedkirby)

[mytoob1671]

I like your threading method!

[ZeroFossilFuel]

It's tricky doing it that way though. Now that I have an actual tap for the job (a whopping $7) I'll never go back.

[blazedkirby]

to help with the water from going into the pump look up plast-o-matic they have a valve that closes off when whater hits it, but lets the gas out! also where can i get a pump like your, what is it called?

[eatarose]

I've thought of a bubbler that uses the electrolyte fluid.

Place a tube on top, and one on bottom of 4" production tube. Top hole gas tube feeds around then to just above the bubbler tubes lower fill tube off of 4" main pipe. Bubbler is larger then gas hose to allow fluid to balance and display amount of electrolyte level in main tube. Top of bubbler feeds HHO to engine. Make sense? i'll try and make a video if needed.

[kevlauenterprises]

Very cool....wish I saw this a few months ago. I went out and bought a complete Tap and Die set. This is expensive! I've spent enough on this project to put 25 tanks of gas in my truck!!! But this is more fun!

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Actually, shortly after producing this video I went out and spent $7 on a 1/4" NPT tap.

[skagitt]

I have a system running on my truck with no bubbler and no problem. There is so much vacuum on the cell from my v8 that it seems to consume the hydrogen as fast as it is produced. I do have a safety in my cell though, the bottom is a rubber end cap with a large hose clamp to seal. If it blows the bottom should come off with minimal damage. I never have backfires or problems relating to this therefore decided that the bubbler just complicates the process.

[eandatoo]

Hey, that's a good idea. I'll try a safety release like that. Thanks.

[mytoob1671]

I recently read a safety test on a cell that used a cling-wrap diaphram as a burst disk.

The cell was ignited and the plexi case shattered. The diaphram was still intact. The test suggested that the cell was shattered by the sonic wave front rather than over-pressuring. I would use a check valve in the output line and call it good. If you did pop a cell located under the hood, it probably wouldn't cause much havoc.

[mytoob1671]

(re: skagitt post)

[chattagrin]

Contribution sent by PayPal.

More to come when I can afford.

Keep up the good work.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Thank you VERY much, sir! I've been shopping for a few odds and ends to complete another cell experiment involving pwm resonance as well as move into plasma fusion.

[phnxrzn2007]

What kind of pressure or how many PSI's is the PVC able to take ? To run a car on HHO only you probably have to buffer the gas into a small presurized tank. How many liters/minute of HHO gas is needed to run a car 100% without any aditional fossil fuels ? Great stuff ! Keep up the good work !

[larmarran]

Hello Does anyone ever ask about the newer cars with MAP devices and how they react to this fuel added to the system?

[TheSaint135]

may I ask what would happen if you filled the empty gas part of a bubbler with some foam stuff like that which mattresses are made of to allow for the bubbler function while minimizing water droplets gouing out of it because of all the shaking it is subjected to? also you could use small styrofoam beads may be???

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Stainless steel wool only.

[freethisone]

all you do is strip a few protons, with a two different cathodes, like in a batter, zinc copper, then you short out the cathodes with a connecting wire, it can be potentially charged to h9o5, H9o4, h7o4, h4o4. then when you make it hit it with another electric potential, a current or a plasma energy like a spark, it will burn.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

In all sincerity, this I'd like to see.

[Hidalgo014]

H7O3(+) and H9O4(+),Spectra Clusters are to close, It would take more Energy in than out. H7O3(+)would have to go below 2500/cm.

Anyway, Good video ZF

Keep up the good work

Doc

[SmartScarecrow]

H3O ??? Think that is mystical orgasm energy associate with more mystical aspects of the Joe cell. True beleivers reported that you could charge water then use it as gasoline. I have yet to see this proven. The last report was a guy in Australia that supposedly ran his motocycle on it but would not give up samples for analysis or replication.

[freethisone]

search Proton transport in water...

[petimoritz]

Hi zero!

Just a note:

Don't forget that water boils on room temperature under vacuum.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Water will boil at room temp if you get below 1.5"Hg absolute pressure or 28.5"Hg vacuum at sea level. I'll not be exceeding 26"Hg which tap water boils at 130*F. Water with high electrolyte concentration will boil at much higher temps, perhaps as high as 170-180*F for the same vacuum.

[BoSJo99]

The PWM should help on this as it will not heat the water as much as constant DC power.

Check up on Stan Meyers consept, it runs cool using PWM.

But it's essenstial to get the resonans freqenses right.

[glen196969]

OOh yeah!! Burn some of that precious HHO to keep warm EH.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

That's the plan! What's "EH"?

[flahr1]

Eh <--- Canadian for "hey"

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Ah, should have known that.

[flahr1]

What's "ah"?

....sorry couldn't resist that one :)

[ZeroFossilFuel]

LOL!

[glen196969]

Great work. Just an Idear. Since the electrolyte makes such a dramatic difference in production.. Could the elecrtolyte be filtered out of the water, and then reintroduced as needed, under load, perhaps with vacume? it would reguire a pumpor or slosh tank that promoted flow over the plates.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Don't think so.

[rewindyourpants]

if your using a tap or a die, im not sure which is which, then you can also use those to tap some holes in your plates in your cell. john aarons does this.

looks like a pretty serious bubbler too, good luck ;)

[JavaLessons]

Just looking ahead, maybe water from the air, as fe from the airco(,wasted on the street,) or harvested in a similar fashion, could be used as well.

Keep up the good work, ZFF, excellent so far !

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Not too far fetched. I've seen video of some guy who invented a device that can extract potable water from the harshest desert air.

[SmartScarecrow]

Figured out that thread making technique a long time ago but is a great tip that I am glad you shared. I am too cheap to buy a proper tap and what you are showing there works great. You going to put a "pop top" on that bubbler just in case?

[ZeroFossilFuel]

I just sprang for a 1/4-18 MIP tap today. Under $8. Not too bad. The bubbler has a rubber stopper shown in the next vid.

[sn1pe352]

Very good Zero, I'll definitely be subscribing to the NL, Have a great holiday my friend. And now I'm looking forward to the new camera just because of battery life :]

[harpersteven]

careful the pressure of a flash back will crack the straw and the flash with go on and explode your cell

[marthale7]

Superb work, love the tip on making the threads into the pvc with a torch. It is so good to get get hands on information.

[freethisone]

wow i used a hydrogen concentrate in my lawn mower, its called h3o, all it is, is a acid Base water, and i can run my motorbike on it/ wow

who needs hydrogen, when you can charge the water up by just changing the amount of ions in the hydrogen, to make hydroxide.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Okay, hot shot. So why haven't you recorded it to video and shown it on YouTube? Why have you not given out how to create your magical h3o? Prove to us you're not full of shit.

[andersonbobby]

Because it can also be used for other things SMART ASS!

[CarbideTip]

Do you think the bubbler will create a vacuum cushion so you wont get the desired results?

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Nope. I plan to keep the vacuum on the cell pretty much constant, vary the production by PWM.

[czarwright]

Aways Great work, and Keep Warm. Peace out