if i dare to play something like simple off-beats on the snare, the other guys in the band already start complaining. if the other musicians in Dave's band can deal with this kind of stuff and not get confused, they are brilliant.
I am a fan of the dry ride, you can hear the articulation and he can really wail on that thanng and produce a big sound with out all the ringing and overtones.♫
@selenachong2 to not play straight playing with a count, in application it sounds loose and can used in many ways, drum solo, total change in musical direction of a song, certain types of jazz arund revolved around losse phrasing it really means that you're not playing every 16th or 8th note you're spacing things in odd distances in relation to the music.
Space between notes, the placement of the notes, volume of what you are playing and dynamics are just a few things.
example: loose phrasing is implied that not the actual notes that have changed, but where and how you are using them to articulate phrases; changing the space between them to make them sound different, or awkward and unique.
for ex: dialect in language where English can be spoken with many different twists, do the same with speaking on the kit.
This was probably the most important 1:30 of drumming I've ever seen that changed the way I played and thought about drums. Besides the Moeller tech...
1. i was responding to a guy that said "loose phrasing? it sounds pretty tight to me!", get it? so i responded accordingly, continuining the facetiousness. 2. weckl is probably my favorite drummer ever. 3. if your gonna call me a "fucking asshole" cause u thought that i dont like daves playing then i must needs inquire of you,how in the world are you so self-conscious? your insecurity is almost palpable!!!!! go dig a hole, pull out your self worth and confidence,clean it off, and have a good day
That's true! I owned a recording kit for twenty years and the bass drum was the only true weakness ot that kit. Even sound engineers knows that! I kept my Yamaha and bougnt a Sonor last year and the difference in the bass drum sound is major. I just don't know why Yamaha never overcame that sound problem...
its not really a rudiment at all twjewett. i think hes just filling in the rest of a triplet with the left hand. rll rll rll rll... basically, but just quite fast.
jajaja joey jordison lo único que tiene es velocidad y agilidad en los pies, asi que no se puede comparar, weckl es superior en muchas cosas que realmente si son importantes, weckl mi master!!!!!
I use both stick types. I find the light brown ones better for rolls over the toms from the snare. The Dark brown work for me better with ghost notes.
This is the best drummer I have heard in my life and trust me I have seen and heard thousands !! God give you a long life, Dave, so you can continue to entertain us with your genius. The word 'awesome' is used a bit too freely nowadays but it suits you to a T. YOu turn a percurssion instruments into a musical instrument
It's awesome but not impossible. He's doing a lot of stuff in there which you would have to learn, practice and deal with one at a time. You can't just COPY this. The guy's brilliant but he likes sharing what he knows. To me, he is the best best in the world at the moment.
holy crap. I guess this is old weckl before the moeller stuff. He's got that right hand at the very end of the stuck. Not near as "bouncy" as he plays now.
yep and he changed his stick design with the 'evolution'. shorter, and has a ball bearing in the butt end for counter balance. he also seems to have lost some pocket with this development. still a monster though no doubt.
I've actually been using the old stick design for 18 yrs., sadly, I've tried to wean myself off but I always go back. I think it's because the stick length and the way it's weighted. I switched for awhile doing the classic rock thing but I'm back now.
This is amazing, but it almost seems to be a little TOO much for my taste. I think he could also leave a little bit more space, because the notes that AREN'T played are just as important to phrasing as the ones that are. But I don't know what I'm talking about.
he is my actualy my favourite drummer and i have all of his albums. Listen to MULTIPLICITY. it is one of the best jazz/fusion or whatever albums ever(at least for me, of course).
It's weird to look back at this video and see the Zildjian 'K' logo on his hats to the right. Ah, the old days...I remember watching this VHS all the time.
It's also weird to remember the *severe* mullet Dave used to rock. I like his hair much better now, but yeah...when this was shot, it was obviously cool to live by the "business in the front, party in the back" mullet motto. ;)
hahaha no mames k marco pitruzzella ni k su puta madre ruego a dios k un dia se den cuenta de los verdaderos bateristas como dave weckl y n o en mamadas de marco pitruzzella
no, i guess he just doesn't. i mean "obviously" anyone could do that, because "obviously" your being sarcastic, well i hope so because hes one of the greatest drummers alive today
you're th best man!!!
VFdrums24 4 months ago
if i dare to play something like simple off-beats on the snare, the other guys in the band already start complaining. if the other musicians in Dave's band can deal with this kind of stuff and not get confused, they are brilliant.
Dieterbe 4 months ago
it's called "loose" but it doesn't sound loose to me.
LHondrums 4 months ago
i still want to play like this!!!! weckl is great...'nuff said.
maplecustom 5 months ago
He should do a drum competitions with this and win:D
TomlinsonVideos 5 months ago
close your eyes and it sounds like he has 10 hands... how the hell does he play those freaking grooves?!??
mrabdrum 5 months ago
@mrabdrum Lots of practice and rudiments exercises by the dozen
dutoith15 2 months ago
tony allen over this guy and elvin jones and tony williams zach hill why not i hate the sound of school drummers with perfectly tuned drums
Molopozotion 5 months ago
who can say what a perfect solo is its all talent to there own ,lets here yours you fucking annalist
purecndn 5 months ago
I am a fan of the dry ride, you can hear the articulation and he can really wail on that thanng and produce a big sound with out all the ringing and overtones.♫
LDrum83 6 months ago 4
dry ride? that guy could play a lead gate for a ride and make it groove
antibulletdodger101 6 months ago 5
...it's beautiful...
fenderjb2112 7 months ago
0 people disrespect Weckl. All´s good.
antibulletdodger101 9 months ago
Loose mullet phrasing
29dave 9 months ago
king
karhuttamas 10 months ago
Can someone elaborate to me what is Loose Phrasing and it's application??
selenachong2 1 year ago 4
@selenachong2 to not play straight playing with a count, in application it sounds loose and can used in many ways, drum solo, total change in musical direction of a song, certain types of jazz arund revolved around losse phrasing it really means that you're not playing every 16th or 8th note you're spacing things in odd distances in relation to the music.
AROBcyprus 8 months ago
@selenachong2
Space between notes, the placement of the notes, volume of what you are playing and dynamics are just a few things.
example: loose phrasing is implied that not the actual notes that have changed, but where and how you are using them to articulate phrases; changing the space between them to make them sound different, or awkward and unique.
for ex: dialect in language where English can be spoken with many different twists, do the same with speaking on the kit.
PositivelyBored 7 months ago
This guy seriously has to work on his timing. Its still a little bit off. Just kididng, I know that the whole point of loose phrasing. Great stuff!
DrummerRF 1 year ago
What is that china china stack to his right, also does anyone know what pedals he uses?
kentsmedblom 1 year ago
@kentsmedblom i suppose they are yamaha
javierdrummer07 1 year ago
@javierdrummer07 yamaha recording custom to be exact!
xxmlhedxx 1 year ago
@xxmlhedxx the best kit out there imo!
drumsticks135 1 year ago
anybody know how to work on phrasing?!
DavidChoiDrumz 1 year ago
he has crazy independance!!! not many drummers can do that!!!
charneney 1 year ago
This was probably the most important 1:30 of drumming I've ever seen that changed the way I played and thought about drums. Besides the Moeller tech...
Lugnutpunk 1 year ago 2
@Lugnutpunk isnt it insane? Iv honestly never seen anything like this in entire life, its beautiful
HunterGathera 11 months ago
that ride sounds like ass...the rest of the drum set sounds fine tho, and his playing is always so fluid
paisteguy799 2 years ago
i think it might be a crash/ride
rovusss 2 years ago
Everything sounds great. i love those toms. But that ride, it's just... too dry.
ELBROSE 2 years ago 19
@ELBROSE nothing sounds great.. it's all processed to within an inch of its life...
idektron 7 months ago
@ELBROSE I dig a dry ride.
KarateMastR57 6 months ago
@ELBROSE well some people love dry rides. i definitely love that ride
NickNoRtHeRnLiGhTs 1 month ago
omg just had a multi orgasm and jizz err where in my pants
modesti712 2 years ago 2
This isn't the Back to Basics, this cut is from the Next Step DVD.
gagman151 2 years ago
yeah... its from next step...
upbeatmantis86 2 years ago 2
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WIthout this guy Iron Maiden would have sucked... long live the king!
smackbat 2 years ago
what do you mean?
this guy was never a part of iron maiden
666MusicIsLife666 2 years ago 4
i think he means influences wise
but im pretty sure nikko wasnt influenced by him, and they both play completely different styles
joedeshields 2 years ago
I understood a lot more of it after the second listening; heard a lot of 8 bar phrases. He sneaks in a lot of really nice ideas, I thought.
ratamakyoo 2 years ago
Ummm, what exactly *IS* losse about this? He sounds really tight ?
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yeah really, they might as well named this 'really bad drumming'
leftpuman 2 years ago
your parents might as well name you 'Fucking Asshole'
kikme778 1 year ago
1. i was responding to a guy that said "loose phrasing? it sounds pretty tight to me!", get it? so i responded accordingly, continuining the facetiousness. 2. weckl is probably my favorite drummer ever. 3. if your gonna call me a "fucking asshole" cause u thought that i dont like daves playing then i must needs inquire of you,how in the world are you so self-conscious? your insecurity is almost palpable!!!!! go dig a hole, pull out your self worth and confidence,clean it off, and have a good day
leftpuman 1 year ago
lol u wasted a lot of time typing that dude :P
kikme778 1 year ago
lol u wasted a lot of time typing me back
leftpuman 1 year ago
Crazy stuff! He's hecka good!
TheRealDrumBeast 2 years ago
the best for me!!!!!
flyonyourway 2 years ago
He is the BEST man !!!!
bobi180985 2 years ago
all idiots..he is great!
18um 2 years ago
Isn't Back to Basic is a The Next Step DVD.
eliezeralpr 3 years ago 3
he is so awesome and every thing in his kit sounds amazing except for the bass drum
lachie10 3 years ago
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That's true! I owned a recording kit for twenty years and the bass drum was the only true weakness ot that kit. Even sound engineers knows that! I kept my Yamaha and bougnt a Sonor last year and the difference in the bass drum sound is major. I just don't know why Yamaha never overcame that sound problem...
Crytes 2 years ago
Well it is obviously all because of the dampening inside the drum. They just liked to have it like that back then.
erikeepper 2 years ago
Haha thats what i thought! it sounds like he's hitting a thing of rubber against a cement wall lol
yeahyeahyeahyeahya 2 years ago
dave weckl is the sh*t! i love watching his solos on video. i saw his clinic in dallas in dec 2003. its even more badass when you see him live.
fri13666 3 years ago
Dave has what we see lacking in other good drummers. (other drummers will know what I am referring to)
traf1852 3 years ago 3
A mullet?!?!
LOL I know what you mean.
Timmyinc44 3 years ago
haha, he definatly was not alone in the mullet mania
jpmerolla 3 years ago 2
This guy is awesome! = Esse cara é fóda!
hiauhaiuhaiuhaiha
poopvic 3 years ago
its not really a rudiment at all twjewett. i think hes just filling in the rest of a triplet with the left hand. rll rll rll rll... basically, but just quite fast.
cfybbdrummer 3 years ago
but... it's all PERFECT!!!
jenjis556 3 years ago
That's one beast of a ride
cabose34521 3 years ago
am i flying or those sticks are huge :S
cmuray 3 years ago
Now that is why I am a fan of Dave Weckl!
JoBoSo 3 years ago
Can anyone please tell me what rudiment he's playing practically throughout which is making the snare sound like a roll the whole time.
twjewett 3 years ago
dave is the man
Garsound 3 years ago 2
a god at work...
fila365 3 years ago 2
the yamaha recording custom set is my favourite of all the drum kits. He's got amazing talents and amazing drum tricks,and also his concerts!!!!
gagman151 3 years ago
jajaja joey jordison lo único que tiene es velocidad y agilidad en los pies, asi que no se puede comparar, weckl es superior en muchas cosas que realmente si son importantes, weckl mi master!!!!!
rockdrummer20 3 years ago
hahah i just know half the people who saw this cant read spanish and just saw joey jordison and automatically thought thi guy was a fag
chernamin 3 years ago 13
haha thats fucking funny.
DAVE WECKL IS GOD.
nin456 3 years ago
@chernamin jordison hijo de jordi castell? dave weck dave weco? jajaja
tutuyin 1 year ago
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joey jordison FUCKING ROCKS \m/
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what a dick
wreckerpecker 3 years ago
I pooped..
lilhickdrummer 3 years ago
if i had a kit that sounded that good, I'd shit myself
hahamajorownage 3 years ago 7
I use both stick types. I find the light brown ones better for rolls over the toms from the snare. The Dark brown work for me better with ghost notes.
JoBoSo 3 years ago
I love how Weckl's kit doesn't sound like a 80's kit
Moog167 3 years ago 3
Bring the mullet back.
bdysrf 3 years ago 6
dave look like billy lee of double dragon.
SkullFilms 3 years ago 3
This is the best drummer I have heard in my life and trust me I have seen and heard thousands !! God give you a long life, Dave, so you can continue to entertain us with your genius. The word 'awesome' is used a bit too freely nowadays but it suits you to a T. YOu turn a percurssion instruments into a musical instrument
traf1852 3 years ago 7
The comment about turning the drums into a musical instrument is exactly the one I wanted to make!
Mwgsy64 3 years ago 2
if you guys like dave you should check out jojo mayer and nerve. I love dave wekl but i think jojo has better tecknique and a better groove
just an opinion
maxfriesen 3 years ago
nerve is pretty fucking sweet i will admit.
VoteOlegForJesus08 3 years ago
o my god! it's impossible!!! groove answone
jenjis556 3 years ago 2
It's awesome but not impossible. He's doing a lot of stuff in there which you would have to learn, practice and deal with one at a time. You can't just COPY this. The guy's brilliant but he likes sharing what he knows. To me, he is the best best in the world at the moment.
traf1852 3 years ago 4
hella tight
benno9438 3 years ago
holy crap. I guess this is old weckl before the moeller stuff. He's got that right hand at the very end of the stuck. Not near as "bouncy" as he plays now.
stixx2000 3 years ago 2
yep and he changed his stick design with the 'evolution'. shorter, and has a ball bearing in the butt end for counter balance. he also seems to have lost some pocket with this development. still a monster though no doubt.
liennto 3 years ago
I've actually been using the old stick design for 18 yrs., sadly, I've tried to wean myself off but I always go back. I think it's because the stick length and the way it's weighted. I switched for awhile doing the classic rock thing but I'm back now.
stixx2000 3 years ago
its still moeller son.
matty80 3 years ago
A bit too much reliance on bouncey double stroke rolls for my tastes, but impressive, nonetheless. Thanks for posting.
richcapo 3 years ago
Multiplicity is one of the best jazz/fusion albums ever. If your a drummer you will probably love it!
dstorey 3 years ago
FUCKING GREAT!!!
Faststick 3 years ago
In a nut shell... to do "riffs" in between the 1 and 4 count.
miamibeaches 3 years ago
Question what is loose phrasing I've been playin for a while but never heard of the term "loose phrasing".
davenger89 3 years ago
well i quit.
metallikuh520 3 years ago
The best of the best!
WazzupDoc69 3 years ago
the phrasing is very tight yet free, i personally love it 5/5
beefslap 3 years ago
This is amazing, but it almost seems to be a little TOO much for my taste. I think he could also leave a little bit more space, because the notes that AREN'T played are just as important to phrasing as the ones that are. But I don't know what I'm talking about.
jazzmessenger8 3 years ago 5
necrodeathkiller, why don't you get a life, he is a natural legend of drumming, you can't deny it, it's a fact.
gabanzastarman666 3 years ago
of course im joking, hehe
he is my actualy my favourite drummer and i have all of his albums. Listen to MULTIPLICITY. it is one of the best jazz/fusion or whatever albums ever(at least for me, of course).
Necrodeathkiller 3 years ago
It's weird to look back at this video and see the Zildjian 'K' logo on his hats to the right. Ah, the old days...I remember watching this VHS all the time.
It's also weird to remember the *severe* mullet Dave used to rock. I like his hair much better now, but yeah...when this was shot, it was obviously cool to live by the "business in the front, party in the back" mullet motto. ;)
drumology2001 4 years ago
hahaha no mames k marco pitruzzella ni k su puta madre ruego a dios k un dia se den cuenta de los verdaderos bateristas como dave weckl y n o en mamadas de marco pitruzzella
Muddeivid 4 years ago
god i love the tone he gets man
ayesoundmate 4 years ago
ohhhhhhhh, so thats loose phrasing, thanx dave its so easy, i got it now...... SHITTTTTT
persini 4 years ago
haha funny
xdoseonex 4 years ago
Yeah! so it seems :DD
SamiPilve 4 years ago
he obviously doesnt know how to play drums at all :)
Necrodeathkiller 4 years ago
Yeah, obviously. And I obviously do not know what sarcasm is.
KommieKillah 4 years ago 2
no, i guess he just doesn't. i mean "obviously" anyone could do that, because "obviously" your being sarcastic, well i hope so because hes one of the greatest drummers alive today
Hitmanfan91 4 years ago