we evolved 5 fingers NOT by chance, birth deformations have 4 or 6 fingers on each hand, we only really need 1 eye the other 1 just helps see better around objects, 4 arms would be useful, you can carry something and open door/move stuff out of your way, did apes millions of years ago have more or less than 4 limbs if you are claiming that it would take that long to grow 2 more arms is silly, most animals are better designed than us all we have is hyper intelligence and thumbs, out of characters
Why five fingers? To be honest some people are born with 4 or 6 fingers. The number of fingers is encoded in our individual DNA. Human DNA has variability, encoding sometimes for more or fewer fingers. The most common surviving DNA was selected from the variations available by natural selection. The reproducers with such traits pass on those traits (with continued variation). Five is typical, but not assured.
You in no way demonstrated creationism is true. You presented evidence for evolution.
God is great! he created such useful structures in the human body. Structures like the appendix, wisdom teeth, the tail bone, goose bumps, a snot faucet right over where you eat... wow, god sucks at this.
I'm fairly certain that you're being honest here in your attempt to "prove" Creationism, so I'll dispense with snark, and just suggest that you learn a bit more about evolution before trying to explain why you disagree with it. Ignorance is not a crime, but it doesn't reflect well on you to argue using ignorant assertions, when the facts behind evolution can be easily found.
The hat, well, let's just say that it fits in with your attempt at refutation of the evidence.
LOL who said 5 fingers came about by chance! Primates have 5 fingers and 5 toes because we have evolved from a mammal ancestor that had 5 fingers and toes who in turn a lot longer ago evolved from an amphibian ancestor that had 5 bones in its half flipper half foot who in turn evolved from a fish ancestor that had 5 bones in its fin etc etc etc WHAT IS SO DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT?
You just speculated about how things LOOK engineered.
If you had 4 fingers, you'd be less useful, if you had 6, you'd use more energy to grow/maintain/control them. At 5 fingers, the most efficient balance between usefulness and efficiency is achieved. Those with less or more would be less likely to survive or mate, and eventually would disappear.
It's the same with eyes: we could have grown three eyes, but the third wouldn't serve a purpose. 1 gives sight, 2 depth perception (very useful), 3?
@adelshehadeh LOL as soon as this guy appeared on screen I thought to myself oh dear stupid creationist! Do you not find yourself getting aggrevated by these idiots now though? They are just refusing to accept the evidence!
Wow man, I sure hope I don't lose a pinky since obviously it would render my entire hand completely useless... Wouldn't even be able to give myself a *face palm!*
For real though, I can't watch this. Someone please tell me the minute mark where he get's to the actual proof so that I can have a good time shooting that down as well...
Everything this guy just said was founded on pure speculation and his own opinions. This video presents NO proof whatsoever. Oh, and by the way, life was NOT created by chance.
Watched the first 3 minutes and stopped - the argument about the 5 fingers per hand thing is probably the 3rd most stupid thing I've heard in my life - right behind the old 'bananas in the hand prove creationism' statement.
and it also shows a complete misunderstanding of the theory of evolution. it really doesn't take that much, I took a GCSE and an A level in biology and I understand evolution perfectly well - seriously take some books out on evolution and talk to someone with an open mind about it and you'll understand it.
Trust me, I implore you to do this, as you could avoid making a complete fool of yourself and statements like these could be completely avoided if you only understood it.
you've proved nothing, simply brought up plenty of points that are all easily refuted. I'm by no means an intellectual giant, and i immediately saw the flaw in every single argument you were able to muster. The comment that the house had to have been created, really? It HAD to be? Why is that? was it created? yeah, probably. But why does it have to be? that is the flaw in your entire video. You start with a preconception, and give examples to prove it. Rather than give examples to make aconcept.
By chance? You are correct "chance" is not enough to explain why all life is the way it is in present. Chance is not evolution, chance is just that randomness, evolution doesn't happen by chance it has a selective quality, being natural selection. Natural selection is the reason humans have five fingers because it was useful and proved to be the best variation to be able to grip trees, sticks, dexterity to create tools and what-have-you. Evolution is the only theory of life that has evidence.
5 fingers is a prove for the existance of god. I have never heard such an increadibly stupid reasoning.
and on mars it is more helpful to have some more digits or arms??? someone talking slowly usually suggests that he is thinking about what he says. not in this case. or should i say nutcase.
evolution is not big bang. why are people so stupid? taths like saying cake is impssible because you need eggs and chicken have nothing to do with ovens.
we will not evolve into having 4 fingers.. silly. And i happen to use my pinky quite a bit.. i'm doing it right now. <- it's the one i use to type a period =)
Even if we did adapt into a race with 4 fingers - that would mean nothing more than it was a predefined option in our genes that was played out... not a sign of evolution.
Each theory is kinda fucked up. Take creation, the base of creation is that GOD created us... but who or what created GOD... I mean how could he have popped out of knowhere and decide to create one or many planets and put humans on it. What about evolution... it is supposed to have started with the big bang and an explosion, but the explosion was caused by things coming in contact with each other... then how these things were even there... Its crazy but I think this is higher than god or evo...
I'm glad you're trying to be objective but you clearly don't understand evolution. What you are referring to is the big bang which a completely separate theory from evolution and has nothing to do with evolution. If you are truly as objective as you should read a real biology book. It will clear things up for you.
Y'know, some humans do have six well-developed fingers due to a genetic trait.
Soon, all humans will have only four fingers due to evolution. Since we don't really use our smallest finger (the pinky) it gets smaller with each generation. Just thought you should know that since you obviously didn't know that before.
One important misconception of evolution and natural selection is that many people think that it was random. Natural selection and evolution are not random, or it would be called random seletion.
We are symmetrical becasue single celled organisms (our ancestors, and what we are made up of today) reproduce by splitting in half. think about the evolution of things and the resultant life-compatible environment in natural selection. It is beautiful, and surely God would have willed it thus
You say things that were created with purpose must have a creator. You are implying that humans have a specific purpose in mind. I'm not sure I agree. Also, computers cannot reproduce. They are different altogether. I'm not saying you are wrong and we were never created, but evolution involves reproducing organisms with genetic drift from generation to generation. Man made items do not reproduce.
Human beings are perfectly suited to live in a certain environment (10 toes, 2 eyes, ect). The simple reason is, those people who weren't suited, will not live long enough to pass their genes on so the "best suited" will survive. People don't have 15 lungs because we would have to dedicate too much energy to making those lungs work (more food=more work). Yes, if some of us move to Mars, we would likely not be humans after 1MM years. Probably not monsters, but a different species at least.
Evolution, natural selection, adaptation, and even the big bang. None of these things disproves the existance of god. someone who uses these things to disprove the existance of a creator is a fool.
Evidently I see no genuine desire to discuss the topics presented, but only a desire to discredit and ridicule the opinions and the person. And that is totally intellectually dishonest. Your words and commentaries are witnesses and speak more about you than me.
Great parody! Oh come on, 5 fingers (Well technically it's 4 actually, and crucially, but moving on) and 2 eyes are a couple of his 'arguments' for creation? AND his page is called Sinner's Den!
please explain why having 5 fingers on each hand proves creationsim? the fact that humans all look the same proves nothing. in fact evolution would easily explain this as adaption to an eviroment over billions of years,
So Intelligent Designers insist that we were designed and that they aren't arguing about religion. Suppose ID was somehow proved true, how many of them do you think would accept the idea that we were designed by spacefaring, genetic engineering, extra terrestrials?
Those things came from natural selection. If we were designed, then God didn't do that great a job. Why do we get diabetes, cancer, etc.?
You don't understand evolution. Evolution would not support an organism spontaneously growing extra arms and otherwise remaining the same. Life has diversified and the diversification goes vertically, not horizontally. Something without arms might slowly develop them, but something with arms won't spontaneously change them for no reason.
Right on! Them people who actually have extra fingers and toes?! Lets just discount them! Way to go! Obviously not a mutation of some kind there, and even if there was... they aren't normal so what does it matter?!
You need help man, seriously! Apart from the fact that you didn't provide any of the things that the challenge required, but you made a complete ass of yourself in the meantime. Seriously man, get help.
Wow... this video is epic fail. The guy has no personality, he drones on and on and on, and never makes a valid point.
Hey, Imorovan! Ever consider how much more functional having six fingers on each hand would be? We'd be able to do a LOT of things better if we had more fingers: we could type faster, play more complex piano pieces, create a better sign language, and even do base 12 math using just our hands!
Suddenly, having only five fingers doesn't seem so perfect, does it?
f.w.i., if by appendix you mean the vermiform appendix, we have them for Immune function and Maintaining gut flora. It isn't, as darwin said it was, a vestigal organ left over from evolution becuase we don't eat leaves anymore. And very few people are born with tails which contain no vertebrae, but only blood vessels, muscles, and nerves, although there have been a very few documented cases of tails containing cartilage.
Apparently you never researched so far as to type "6 fingers" into google. If we had 7 fingers would you argue that that could only be as the result of a creator?
evolution doesn't say we have 5 fingers because of chance, we have 5 fingers b/c our ancestors did and it's advantageous.
of course we're perfectly suited for our environment, we evolved that way
you clearly don't understand evolution.
Also, the video you're responding to asked you to prove creationism, not to disprove evolution
This is the most inane response I've ever heard in video form. There are people with 6 fingers, (a dominant trait) that actually allows them an advantage.
So all the complex and improbable organisms and structures that we share the world with were created by a designer who would have to be even more complex and improbable to that which he is being invoked to explain, so according to creationist logic the designer must also have a designer right?
Some human beings have six fingers. The additional appendage in these people is perfectly functional. This doesn't mean they are not "normal," they are simply uncommon.
Is there a purpose for this trait, or is it simply a variation against what you conjecture is our intended design?
The reason because we are "perfectly suited" to our environment is because our ancestors would have, and very often did, died if they weren't. The fit ones passed on their genes, the dead ones didn't.
Coming from a Chistian, though not a creationist, saying we are "perfectly suited" for our environment is not proof of creation.
It's not "by chance." Just because you know nothing about genetics doesn't mean you can automatically switch to "God did it." DNA codes for growth, including the number, placement and shapes of the parts of the body. I'm a high school student and even I know this. Some humans are born with extra fingers (polydactyly) because they have inherited a dominant allele for finger number. Otherwise their DNA codes for five fingers.
Study DNA/genetics for a few weeks and then review this video.
First off, your hands are no more proof than saying, there simply IS something in existence. Secondly, you offer no evidence for your claims of God, just whimsical theories based on assumptions (and assumptions are the mother of ALL fuck ups).
There is no real debate on this issue anymore- no credible natural scientists disbelieve evolution.
The only people at this point who disbelieve it are people who either don't truly have a real scientific understanding of it (and thus argue from ignorance, as seen here), or people who simply can't or don't want to believe something that conflicts with their religion (and thus argue from incredulity, another classic logical fallacy).
The scientific community has consensus- get with the program.
We evolved from primitive apes which have 5 fingers, we apparently inherited that feature of their anatomy.
If 6/4 fingers indeed have a survival advantage, we might just have 4/6 fingers who knows.
Argument from irreducible complexity, it is not a good analogy since a computer dun mutate or reproduce.
But, ur argument that removing a part of an organism and u remove its function is disproved. Blood still clots even if it lacked certain blood clotting gene in dolphins and puffer fish.
A good debater can create realistic seeming examples out of thin air. Which is what I believe you did. All well and good but what you did was not scientific proof, that is to say that it cannot be measured or charted. Its just opinion.
And assuming you're right and some being purposefully designed things as to accommodate humans what makes you sure it was god, christian or otherwise?
a cristal of snow is an amazing structure if you look at it with a microscope with multiple possibilities of structure! It is well designed, but no god behind, just water molecule, cold temperature and atomic angle!!!
Well in other term, physical problem, not fantasy! everything is design by nature, by law of physic, chemistry, biology etc... nothing by a magical god!
Your point seems to be the argument from design. Even if this were true, it doesn't rule out any other creation story - the Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs etc all have their own creation myths - so what's your evidence the Christian version of creation is correct?
Also, you assert everything that looks designed must have a designer. You need some evidence to back this assertion up. Just because we know man-made objects had a designer doesn't mean everything which appears designed is.
Human beings are far from adapted to our enviroments. That is why we have to wear clothes, so we can live in a much larger area of the world than we originally could.
PC's have vast amounts of excess-parts that are functional only in case something goes wrong. Not needed even then, just preventing accidental damage. You can take off sound-cards, modems, RAM, Hard-drives, CD-drives, and still the computer works as intended.
Cause&Effect speech sounded like Matrix Reloaded Merovingian talking :)
Zzzzzzz........ basically your saying you know nothing about evolution therefore its wrong? Humans have 4 fingers and 1 thumb.... Pick up a book other than the bible and learn something. And give me my 9 minutes and 16 seconds back.
Nothing? Well then, bravo for wasting 10 minutes of several hundred people's time! Next time just say 'I am going to reiterate the Blind Watchmen theory.' It would take 30 seconds and we could all have more of our lives back.
actually, we are pretty poorly adepted to our surroundings as just humans...take away all technology, I mean all, and most humans would die within a year. Our intelligence makes us capable of surviving conditions normally lethal to an organism with our features (try putting a chimp on the north pole). About our fingers..octopus has 8 arms, spiders 8 legs, insects 6, they all do fine, but according to you there is a reason for these numbers, yet the result of this reason can be any outcome......
You are right that everything is suited to live in it's environment, but the reason that they are suited this way is that they evolved to fit this environment.
You must understand that what you see as evidence of design, someone else will see as evidence of natural selection. For example we have two eyes because one eye does not provide depth perception, so a long time ago most things with one eye died out because they could not perceive depth. You see what I mean?
There *are* some humans who have 6 fingers. There is a genetic mutation that is fairly common among the Amish population in rural Pennsylvania which results in 6 fingers. Google it.
This is a completely irrelevant argument. People have five fingers because they adapted to their environment and the gene for 5 fingers was selected for. You don't understand natural selection or genetics at all. As far as computers go (even though this is also a completely irrelevant argument) a computer is still a computer even if I has fewer parts--it's just a simpler computer. We used to have them before we started making really complex computers.
OMFG... worst arguemet ever! read a book or try freakin wikipedia is thats too hard. OMG this is the worst... i cant even express my anger for how poorly thought out this was.
You dont even bring up any popular christian arguements. i am seriously wondering if u have ever read any book ever. even read some christian book just to at least prove to me u have any knowledge other than what any one can pull out there rear.
no science, no logic, not even worth anyones time.
Do you know why the environment seems to be fitted for us? Because we adapted ourselves to it. In other words, the banana was not created by looking at our hands. It was our hand that was formed over time by looking at the banana.
- If you'd put someone on Mars he'd die, and not evolve into modified creature. The reason there isn't much life on mars, is because the condition for life to evolve there is extremely difficult.
computers are the result of an ongoing process of testing out new ideas of how computations can be performed as quickly and as efficiently as possible. There is not a single person who is responsible for the computer, rather a sum of all good ideas that benefit that performance .. minus the bad ideas that just suck .. like BASIC .. it was thrown out because it was a bad idea mkay.. even creationists use evolution whether they like it or not
Agree, and evolutionists cannot explain their theory without using creationism/intelligent design, whether they like it or not. Of course they use other terms but the meaning is the same.
Question: have you ever put a computer together? Part by part, peace by peace? If you have, you know well what I was talking about.
@lmorovan we can prove evolution thenk you very much. We HAVE found transitional forms of animals as fossils. We HAVE witnessed bacteria and viruses mutate and change. There however is no proof of creationism and I would very much like you to provide me with some. By the way 'the bible' is not proof. Thousand year old books written by shepards do NOT count as proof.
The truth usually is never popular. Besides, I am not running a popularity contest. You can agree, you can disagree or you can agree to disagree. But you cannot stop the truth.
Someone still believes in creationism? C'mon. Grow the hell up. This guy can freaking ramble. It is amazing that we are even here to ask questions, why mess that up with dogma.
You have time ? , there are no instant answers :P , you beleave in the atomic bomb ? well, the guy that think about that was thinking in black holes too, give him a litle credit.
A "creation" needs a "creator" doesn't apply when the "creator" is SEX! Sexual reproduction and genetic mutation fully explain this.
You never laid out what our "purpose" was supposed to be in your analogy...but using your logic, this means that a cloud that looks like a bunny is so because there is a purpose for that.
You are taking an end result and prescribing "purpose" to this result AS IF it were the only possible outcome.
Some humans ARE born with 4 or 6 fingers. Notice you said "normal"...so you know this. Therefore, the fact that having 5 fingers is preferred in the genetic makeup, it would prosper due to natural selection. Your suggestions are all backed up by evolution.
Meanwhile, if I had 4 arms, it would be better than just 2. So you HAVE NOT given any "proof of creation"...in fact, you've supported evolution more than anything.
Your confirmation bias ideas ignore everything that disproves you ideas.
we evolved 5 fingers NOT by chance, birth deformations have 4 or 6 fingers on each hand, we only really need 1 eye the other 1 just helps see better around objects, 4 arms would be useful, you can carry something and open door/move stuff out of your way, did apes millions of years ago have more or less than 4 limbs if you are claiming that it would take that long to grow 2 more arms is silly, most animals are better designed than us all we have is hyper intelligence and thumbs, out of characters
taylan637 6 days ago
Well, your entire argument sort of disproves God in the process, doesn't it?
tarrizzzzzzzzz 1 month ago
Nine minutes to tell me I have five fingers?? For fucks sake, I'm outtie. One dingbat down, one billion to go.
fdasherv 2 months ago
Why five fingers? To be honest some people are born with 4 or 6 fingers. The number of fingers is encoded in our individual DNA. Human DNA has variability, encoding sometimes for more or fewer fingers. The most common surviving DNA was selected from the variations available by natural selection. The reproducers with such traits pass on those traits (with continued variation). Five is typical, but not assured.
You in no way demonstrated creationism is true. You presented evidence for evolution.
drfoxcourt 4 months ago
God is great! he created such useful structures in the human body. Structures like the appendix, wisdom teeth, the tail bone, goose bumps, a snot faucet right over where you eat... wow, god sucks at this.
thegodlessatheist 6 months ago
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Mate!!! It would hurt me to think down to your level.
You have not proved anything, other than you are a moron
jonno101063 7 months ago
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jonno101063 7 months ago
Good morning, lmorovan.
I'm fairly certain that you're being honest here in your attempt to "prove" Creationism, so I'll dispense with snark, and just suggest that you learn a bit more about evolution before trying to explain why you disagree with it. Ignorance is not a crime, but it doesn't reflect well on you to argue using ignorant assertions, when the facts behind evolution can be easily found.
The hat, well, let's just say that it fits in with your attempt at refutation of the evidence.
trog69 10 months ago
LOL who said 5 fingers came about by chance! Primates have 5 fingers and 5 toes because we have evolved from a mammal ancestor that had 5 fingers and toes who in turn a lot longer ago evolved from an amphibian ancestor that had 5 bones in its half flipper half foot who in turn evolved from a fish ancestor that had 5 bones in its fin etc etc etc WHAT IS SO DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT?
greeny202a 1 year ago
Why five fingers? EVOLUTION!!!
icomewithfries 1 year ago
This is far from proof for creationism. Fucking waste of time.
hcoll 1 year ago
You just speculated about how things LOOK engineered.
If you had 4 fingers, you'd be less useful, if you had 6, you'd use more energy to grow/maintain/control them. At 5 fingers, the most efficient balance between usefulness and efficiency is achieved. Those with less or more would be less likely to survive or mate, and eventually would disappear.
It's the same with eyes: we could have grown three eyes, but the third wouldn't serve a purpose. 1 gives sight, 2 depth perception (very useful), 3?
Varonessor 2 years ago
wow so fucking amazing! lol retard
adelshehadeh 2 years ago
@adelshehadeh LOL as soon as this guy appeared on screen I thought to myself oh dear stupid creationist! Do you not find yourself getting aggrevated by these idiots now though? They are just refusing to accept the evidence!
greeny202a 1 year ago
Polydactylism for the fail, cretard.
zenboy3000 2 years ago
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
skyzthelimi7 2 years ago
I watched this all the way through. I renounce my non-faith, hell is real.
WhyDoIBotherAtAll 2 years ago 2
His entire argument seems based on the appearance of design. This isn't really proof of anything and has been debunked before.
evilotakuneko 2 years ago
Who cares if he thinks he's right?! Evidence is evidence. His previously held beliefs are a red herring.
blapperz 2 years ago
WOW... did you figure this amazing theory out all by yourself??
With this kind of brain power, I predict a glories future for USA!!!
SittingDuckDK 2 years ago
Wow man, I sure hope I don't lose a pinky since obviously it would render my entire hand completely useless... Wouldn't even be able to give myself a *face palm!*
For real though, I can't watch this. Someone please tell me the minute mark where he get's to the actual proof so that I can have a good time shooting that down as well...
brainfoodlunch 2 years ago
If we had 4 fingers, you would say "Why 4?" Saying "It must be chance because it must be" is not science.
Shardfenix 2 years ago 2
I can't watch anymore. I lost 3 IQ points
unclegreggers1 2 years ago
What a stupid response.
JerryA92656 2 years ago
Everything this guy just said was founded on pure speculation and his own opinions. This video presents NO proof whatsoever. Oh, and by the way, life was NOT created by chance.
zingerale 2 years ago
Watched the first 3 minutes and stopped - the argument about the 5 fingers per hand thing is probably the 3rd most stupid thing I've heard in my life - right behind the old 'bananas in the hand prove creationism' statement.
Dragon0007 2 years ago
and it also shows a complete misunderstanding of the theory of evolution. it really doesn't take that much, I took a GCSE and an A level in biology and I understand evolution perfectly well - seriously take some books out on evolution and talk to someone with an open mind about it and you'll understand it.
Trust me, I implore you to do this, as you could avoid making a complete fool of yourself and statements like these could be completely avoided if you only understood it.
Dragon0007 2 years ago
this still tries to prove creation by disproving evolution of with the maker of the video has no understanding at all
Toudiyama 2 years ago
This guy sure is funny.
Existance of something does not prove it has a purpose to exist, let alone that is has a creator.
Harizl 2 years ago
God never actually answers any of the questions creationists pose.
How could something be created without a creator? God did it!
Who created God?
Nothing!
What reason does the universe have to exist? God wanted it to!
Why does God exist?
He doesn't need a reason!
RichardMNixon 2 years ago
you've proved nothing, simply brought up plenty of points that are all easily refuted. I'm by no means an intellectual giant, and i immediately saw the flaw in every single argument you were able to muster. The comment that the house had to have been created, really? It HAD to be? Why is that? was it created? yeah, probably. But why does it have to be? that is the flaw in your entire video. You start with a preconception, and give examples to prove it. Rather than give examples to make aconcept.
rageoftyrael 2 years ago
By chance? You are correct "chance" is not enough to explain why all life is the way it is in present. Chance is not evolution, chance is just that randomness, evolution doesn't happen by chance it has a selective quality, being natural selection. Natural selection is the reason humans have five fingers because it was useful and proved to be the best variation to be able to grip trees, sticks, dexterity to create tools and what-have-you. Evolution is the only theory of life that has evidence.
cc3814 2 years ago
people arent differnt = creation?
holymoose69 2 years ago
5 fingers is a prove for the existance of god. I have never heard such an increadibly stupid reasoning.
and on mars it is more helpful to have some more digits or arms??? someone talking slowly usually suggests that he is thinking about what he says. not in this case. or should i say nutcase.
domda180 2 years ago
evolution is not big bang. why are people so stupid? taths like saying cake is impssible because you need eggs and chicken have nothing to do with ovens.
Y0ts0 2 years ago
sniper...
we will not evolve into having 4 fingers.. silly. And i happen to use my pinky quite a bit.. i'm doing it right now. <- it's the one i use to type a period =)
Even if we did adapt into a race with 4 fingers - that would mean nothing more than it was a predefined option in our genes that was played out... not a sign of evolution.
xnothingbutthetruth 2 years ago
Each theory is kinda fucked up. Take creation, the base of creation is that GOD created us... but who or what created GOD... I mean how could he have popped out of knowhere and decide to create one or many planets and put humans on it. What about evolution... it is supposed to have started with the big bang and an explosion, but the explosion was caused by things coming in contact with each other... then how these things were even there... Its crazy but I think this is higher than god or evo...
CaporalBig 2 years ago
I'm glad you're trying to be objective but you clearly don't understand evolution. What you are referring to is the big bang which a completely separate theory from evolution and has nothing to do with evolution. If you are truly as objective as you should read a real biology book. It will clear things up for you.
Leones44 2 years ago 2
Y'know, some humans do have six well-developed fingers due to a genetic trait.
Soon, all humans will have only four fingers due to evolution. Since we don't really use our smallest finger (the pinky) it gets smaller with each generation. Just thought you should know that since you obviously didn't know that before.
sniper6081 2 years ago
Five fingers on each hand is great for firing an M4, or AK47. So God must have created us to wage war on each other.
XaUser 2 years ago
One important misconception of evolution and natural selection is that many people think that it was random. Natural selection and evolution are not random, or it would be called random seletion.
We are symmetrical becasue single celled organisms (our ancestors, and what we are made up of today) reproduce by splitting in half. think about the evolution of things and the resultant life-compatible environment in natural selection. It is beautiful, and surely God would have willed it thus
punkpood 2 years ago
You say things that were created with purpose must have a creator. You are implying that humans have a specific purpose in mind. I'm not sure I agree. Also, computers cannot reproduce. They are different altogether. I'm not saying you are wrong and we were never created, but evolution involves reproducing organisms with genetic drift from generation to generation. Man made items do not reproduce.
Ripley747 2 years ago
Human beings are perfectly suited to live in a certain environment (10 toes, 2 eyes, ect). The simple reason is, those people who weren't suited, will not live long enough to pass their genes on so the "best suited" will survive. People don't have 15 lungs because we would have to dedicate too much energy to making those lungs work (more food=more work). Yes, if some of us move to Mars, we would likely not be humans after 1MM years. Probably not monsters, but a different species at least.
Ripley747 2 years ago
Evolution, natural selection, adaptation, and even the big bang. None of these things disproves the existance of god. someone who uses these things to disprove the existance of a creator is a fool.
earthlight27 2 years ago
This video makes me laugh at how stupid you are.
isaacdguitar 2 years ago
I dub thee Count Creationism!
LogicThrash 2 years ago
Evidently I see no genuine desire to discuss the topics presented, but only a desire to discredit and ridicule the opinions and the person. And that is totally intellectually dishonest. Your words and commentaries are witnesses and speak more about you than me.
lmorovan 2 years ago
Great parody! Oh come on, 5 fingers (Well technically it's 4 actually, and crucially, but moving on) and 2 eyes are a couple of his 'arguments' for creation? AND his page is called Sinner's Den!
Revoltingsheeple 2 years ago
Monkeys have 5 fingers.
Most animals have 2 eyes 2 ears 1 mouth ...
What's the point?
dustbust3r 2 years ago
please explain why having 5 fingers on each hand proves creationsim? the fact that humans all look the same proves nothing. in fact evolution would easily explain this as adaption to an eviroment over billions of years,
caseisclosed94 2 years ago
even if we grant this guy all these premisies, how does this prove that the reason we have 5 fingers is because god made it that way.
superjeff14 2 years ago
I can't wait to go to mars we will turn into monsters with 4 arms and 6 fingers and tentacles and.. beaks!
This guy knows evolution SO MUCH!
Proletariat12 2 years ago
So Intelligent Designers insist that we were designed and that they aren't arguing about religion. Suppose ID was somehow proved true, how many of them do you think would accept the idea that we were designed by spacefaring, genetic engineering, extra terrestrials?
RichardMNixon 2 years ago
Those things came from natural selection. If we were designed, then God didn't do that great a job. Why do we get diabetes, cancer, etc.?
You don't understand evolution. Evolution would not support an organism spontaneously growing extra arms and otherwise remaining the same. Life has diversified and the diversification goes vertically, not horizontally. Something without arms might slowly develop them, but something with arms won't spontaneously change them for no reason.
RichardMNixon 2 years ago
a human being is perfectly suited to live in a enviroment that surrounds.."
TADAH!!! you just proved natural selection.
thinkppl 2 years ago
Right on! Them people who actually have extra fingers and toes?! Lets just discount them! Way to go! Obviously not a mutation of some kind there, and even if there was... they aren't normal so what does it matter?!
mejt4reel 2 years ago
See "Argument from Incredulity"
You, sir, fail.
ThorsDecree 2 years ago
wow, lol you are just proving evolution
LifeBennder 2 years ago
I know, isn't it hilarious?
Of course, if he's pointing out _fact_ such as human adaptations then he's inevitably going to point out proofs for evolution by natural selection.
Creationists are funny... I live with two of them (parents).
And I felt insulted (nerd that I am) when he didn't know that Alan Turing invented the computer (arguable I know, but _modern_ computer...!)
/random
This guy made me giggle. He looks like a war veteran, which adds to the stereotype... ^^
ThorsDecree 2 years ago 2
WOW really great video, you blew my mind! :)
... Naah. Not really :P. lol, can u imagine if I were like that? ;)
nitarna 2 years ago
You had me there for a moment! I thought I accidentally stepped into a venomfang video.
Proletariat12 2 years ago
i find this offensive i happen to have 3 eyes 10 fingers (6 on one 4 on the other) and 1 arm >:(
but seriously how can you be so stupid and what is it which makes YOUR creationism right
ajgrovery 2 years ago
man i laughed so hard! awesome comment!
digitalscissors 2 years ago
yep and thats right i have 2 hands and 1 arm
ajgrovery 2 years ago
endless nonsense
jdestremps 2 years ago
You need help man, seriously! Apart from the fact that you didn't provide any of the things that the challenge required, but you made a complete ass of yourself in the meantime. Seriously man, get help.
Finkeren 2 years ago
Wow... this video is epic fail. The guy has no personality, he drones on and on and on, and never makes a valid point.
Hey, Imorovan! Ever consider how much more functional having six fingers on each hand would be? We'd be able to do a LOT of things better if we had more fingers: we could type faster, play more complex piano pieces, create a better sign language, and even do base 12 math using just our hands!
Suddenly, having only five fingers doesn't seem so perfect, does it?
OuroborosChoked 2 years ago 6
Nice hat. That's all I can come up with after being stunned by the idiocy of this video.
limpdogg 3 years ago 2
you know nothing of the topic, so why are you talking like you do? Absolutely nothing. Why do you have an appendix or why are people born with tails?
FockerTheLopper 3 years ago
f.w.i., if by appendix you mean the vermiform appendix, we have them for Immune function and Maintaining gut flora. It isn't, as darwin said it was, a vestigal organ left over from evolution becuase we don't eat leaves anymore. And very few people are born with tails which contain no vertebrae, but only blood vessels, muscles, and nerves, although there have been a very few documented cases of tails containing cartilage.
ghostbirdsama 2 years ago
What if we have five fingers because Zeus wanted us to have them..?
UntakenNick 3 years ago
Apparently you never researched so far as to type "6 fingers" into google. If we had 7 fingers would you argue that that could only be as the result of a creator?
evolution doesn't say we have 5 fingers because of chance, we have 5 fingers b/c our ancestors did and it's advantageous.
of course we're perfectly suited for our environment, we evolved that way
you clearly don't understand evolution.
Also, the video you're responding to asked you to prove creationism, not to disprove evolution
jenessa1018 3 years ago
This is the most inane response I've ever heard in video form. There are people with 6 fingers, (a dominant trait) that actually allows them an advantage.
30shekels 3 years ago
i agree, he's another christian who hasn't checked his so called facts
lesouder2222 2 years ago
ur video is boring!
saibooba 3 years ago
I think it sux that someone one starred your video. But you make perfectly good sense. I got my songs one starred all over hell. C'ya!!! :)
1ojak1 3 years ago
So all the complex and improbable organisms and structures that we share the world with were created by a designer who would have to be even more complex and improbable to that which he is being invoked to explain, so according to creationist logic the designer must also have a designer right?
hoboguru 3 years ago
Some human beings have six fingers. The additional appendage in these people is perfectly functional. This doesn't mean they are not "normal," they are simply uncommon.
Is there a purpose for this trait, or is it simply a variation against what you conjecture is our intended design?
gatechgamer 3 years ago
The reason because we are "perfectly suited" to our environment is because our ancestors would have, and very often did, died if they weren't. The fit ones passed on their genes, the dead ones didn't.
Coming from a Chistian, though not a creationist, saying we are "perfectly suited" for our environment is not proof of creation.
baboon1010101 3 years ago
It's not "by chance." Just because you know nothing about genetics doesn't mean you can automatically switch to "God did it." DNA codes for growth, including the number, placement and shapes of the parts of the body. I'm a high school student and even I know this. Some humans are born with extra fingers (polydactyly) because they have inherited a dominant allele for finger number. Otherwise their DNA codes for five fingers.
Study DNA/genetics for a few weeks and then review this video.
searenee 3 years ago
First off, your hands are no more proof than saying, there simply IS something in existence. Secondly, you offer no evidence for your claims of God, just whimsical theories based on assumptions (and assumptions are the mother of ALL fuck ups).
silvercade 3 years ago
There is no real debate on this issue anymore- no credible natural scientists disbelieve evolution.
The only people at this point who disbelieve it are people who either don't truly have a real scientific understanding of it (and thus argue from ignorance, as seen here), or people who simply can't or don't want to believe something that conflicts with their religion (and thus argue from incredulity, another classic logical fallacy).
The scientific community has consensus- get with the program.
chairmanmeow1 3 years ago
We evolved from primitive apes which have 5 fingers, we apparently inherited that feature of their anatomy.
If 6/4 fingers indeed have a survival advantage, we might just have 4/6 fingers who knows.
Argument from irreducible complexity, it is not a good analogy since a computer dun mutate or reproduce.
But, ur argument that removing a part of an organism and u remove its function is disproved. Blood still clots even if it lacked certain blood clotting gene in dolphins and puffer fish.
wildreams 3 years ago
u can look at ken millers on intelligent design in my favorites. I believe u can get some valuable insights.
wildreams 3 years ago
A good debater can create realistic seeming examples out of thin air. Which is what I believe you did. All well and good but what you did was not scientific proof, that is to say that it cannot be measured or charted. Its just opinion.
And assuming you're right and some being purposefully designed things as to accommodate humans what makes you sure it was god, christian or otherwise?
ktuSupervillian 3 years ago
Cool normal people have 5 fingers on each hand...Most people I know have 4 fingers and one thumb on each hand..
tiemannorm 3 years ago
a cristal of snow is an amazing structure if you look at it with a microscope with multiple possibilities of structure! It is well designed, but no god behind, just water molecule, cold temperature and atomic angle!!!
Well in other term, physical problem, not fantasy! everything is design by nature, by law of physic, chemistry, biology etc... nothing by a magical god!
MattleSystem 3 years ago
Your point seems to be the argument from design. Even if this were true, it doesn't rule out any other creation story - the Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs etc all have their own creation myths - so what's your evidence the Christian version of creation is correct?
Also, you assert everything that looks designed must have a designer. You need some evidence to back this assertion up. Just because we know man-made objects had a designer doesn't mean everything which appears designed is.
dave28lax 3 years ago 2
Human beings are far from adapted to our enviroments. That is why we have to wear clothes, so we can live in a much larger area of the world than we originally could.
PC's have vast amounts of excess-parts that are functional only in case something goes wrong. Not needed even then, just preventing accidental damage. You can take off sound-cards, modems, RAM, Hard-drives, CD-drives, and still the computer works as intended.
Cause&Effect speech sounded like Matrix Reloaded Merovingian talking :)
Daealis 3 years ago
Zzzzzzz........ basically your saying you know nothing about evolution therefore its wrong? Humans have 4 fingers and 1 thumb.... Pick up a book other than the bible and learn something. And give me my 9 minutes and 16 seconds back.
west26cali 3 years ago
Waiting on proof...........
Nothing? Well then, bravo for wasting 10 minutes of several hundred people's time! Next time just say 'I am going to reiterate the Blind Watchmen theory.' It would take 30 seconds and we could all have more of our lives back.
Hopeful71 3 years ago
hahahah.. wait.. i just realized, this guy has never even put forth the effort understanding anything related to science, much less darwinism.
BHTX84 3 years ago 2
This man speaks like a man from nearly 2000 years ago.
BHTX84 3 years ago
actually, we are pretty poorly adepted to our surroundings as just humans...take away all technology, I mean all, and most humans would die within a year. Our intelligence makes us capable of surviving conditions normally lethal to an organism with our features (try putting a chimp on the north pole). About our fingers..octopus has 8 arms, spiders 8 legs, insects 6, they all do fine, but according to you there is a reason for these numbers, yet the result of this reason can be any outcome......
jzuidema 3 years ago
Humans have four fingers and one thumb.
fxrams 3 years ago 2
You are right that everything is suited to live in it's environment, but the reason that they are suited this way is that they evolved to fit this environment.
You must understand that what you see as evidence of design, someone else will see as evidence of natural selection. For example we have two eyes because one eye does not provide depth perception, so a long time ago most things with one eye died out because they could not perceive depth. You see what I mean?
steam116 3 years ago
There *are* some humans who have 6 fingers. There is a genetic mutation that is fairly common among the Amish population in rural Pennsylvania which results in 6 fingers. Google it.
davedevetter 3 years ago
Yeah right! Just because science can't explain absolutely everything, you are able to say that "God did it".
COME ON!
By involving God you inevitably bring in all the f-ing religions with their interpretations;
you separate people;
you apply ancient laws with wide interpretation to people;
you discourage scientific approach.
If you've got such huge demands to knowledge I think it's better to simply say "I don't know that for sure yet"
dcxJ 3 years ago
This is a completely irrelevant argument. People have five fingers because they adapted to their environment and the gene for 5 fingers was selected for. You don't understand natural selection or genetics at all. As far as computers go (even though this is also a completely irrelevant argument) a computer is still a computer even if I has fewer parts--it's just a simpler computer. We used to have them before we started making really complex computers.
listentoharmony3 3 years ago
OMFG... worst arguemet ever! read a book or try freakin wikipedia is thats too hard. OMG this is the worst... i cant even express my anger for how poorly thought out this was.
You dont even bring up any popular christian arguements. i am seriously wondering if u have ever read any book ever. even read some christian book just to at least prove to me u have any knowledge other than what any one can pull out there rear.
no science, no logic, not even worth anyones time.
terrible!!!
xtcx2e 3 years ago
I'm afraid all the arguments in this video have been put forward before, and refuted.
BoingotheClown 3 years ago 3
excuse me sir, have i seen you from The Truman Show?
Maracachucho 3 years ago
And now, ladies and gentleman, the Teleology Man!
lugarf 3 years ago
This man does not understand evolution
thienpho 3 years ago
Holy shit this is the most pointless video ever.
japanezeboi 3 years ago
Do you know why the environment seems to be fitted for us? Because we adapted ourselves to it. In other words, the banana was not created by looking at our hands. It was our hand that was formed over time by looking at the banana.
- If you'd put someone on Mars he'd die, and not evolve into modified creature. The reason there isn't much life on mars, is because the condition for life to evolve there is extremely difficult.
- You just gave some ideas. We asked for PROOF.
cypher1554R 3 years ago
fail! a computer .. made by somebody? ... wrong!
computers are the result of an ongoing process of testing out new ideas of how computations can be performed as quickly and as efficiently as possible. There is not a single person who is responsible for the computer, rather a sum of all good ideas that benefit that performance .. minus the bad ideas that just suck .. like BASIC .. it was thrown out because it was a bad idea mkay.. even creationists use evolution whether they like it or not
mrsepek 3 years ago
Agree, and evolutionists cannot explain their theory without using creationism/intelligent design, whether they like it or not. Of course they use other terms but the meaning is the same.
Question: have you ever put a computer together? Part by part, peace by peace? If you have, you know well what I was talking about.
lmorovan 3 years ago
Non living matter, non reproducing matter does not evolve. It's a false comparison.
wimscheers 3 years ago
@lmorovan we can prove evolution thenk you very much. We HAVE found transitional forms of animals as fossils. We HAVE witnessed bacteria and viruses mutate and change. There however is no proof of creationism and I would very much like you to provide me with some. By the way 'the bible' is not proof. Thousand year old books written by shepards do NOT count as proof.
Mayhem108 1 year ago
Can anything happen by chance?
Many species have more than two arms/legs/etc... Seems to serve them fairly well.
Some *people* have more or less than 5 fingers.
Computers don't self-replicate with variation(so not a good analogy)
A fish living in a coral reef would conclude that only God could have made his 'house'
A puddle of water is perfectly formed to survive in a hole.
Living things fit their surroundings, the surroundings don't fit living things. Life is a puddle.
ValeofAldur 3 years ago
The ratings on this video speaks for itself
Epic Fail
KarinMikazuki 3 years ago
The truth usually is never popular. Besides, I am not running a popularity contest. You can agree, you can disagree or you can agree to disagree. But you cannot stop the truth.
lmorovan 3 years ago
You are completely right on that.
Might aswell just accept Evolution..
KarinMikazuki 3 years ago 3
Someone still believes in creationism? C'mon. Grow the hell up. This guy can freaking ramble. It is amazing that we are even here to ask questions, why mess that up with dogma.
chumfilter 3 years ago
Cause and effect, someone watched The Matrix alot ^^
Roxsith 3 years ago
it sounds like he's supporting evidence. All of those are similarites between humans and other creatures. Further evidence for a common ancestor
rmxjoint 3 years ago
What are you ? some kind of helicopter pilot ? hahaha.
Puntaltenses 3 years ago
What about a Black Holes? Prove their existence. What about Dark Matter? Prove its existence.
lmorovan 3 years ago
You have time ? , there are no instant answers :P , you beleave in the atomic bomb ? well, the guy that think about that was thinking in black holes too, give him a litle credit.
Puntaltenses 3 years ago
A "creation" needs a "creator" doesn't apply when the "creator" is SEX! Sexual reproduction and genetic mutation fully explain this.
You never laid out what our "purpose" was supposed to be in your analogy...but using your logic, this means that a cloud that looks like a bunny is so because there is a purpose for that.
You are taking an end result and prescribing "purpose" to this result AS IF it were the only possible outcome.
KingHeathen 3 years ago
Some humans ARE born with 4 or 6 fingers. Notice you said "normal"...so you know this. Therefore, the fact that having 5 fingers is preferred in the genetic makeup, it would prosper due to natural selection. Your suggestions are all backed up by evolution.
Meanwhile, if I had 4 arms, it would be better than just 2. So you HAVE NOT given any "proof of creation"...in fact, you've supported evolution more than anything.
Your confirmation bias ideas ignore everything that disproves you ideas.
KingHeathen 3 years ago
if man had 5 fingers or 7, it does not prove god.
thickblkpa 3 years ago
The video never intended to prove God. If you noticed, I mean.
lmorovan 3 years ago