Jean Pain - English - Part 1

[lauzeu]

yea but if all of us will start to use wood...iti will not be enough..and will start damage the ecosistem again...

[darthvader5300]

There are large parts of the world where nothing can grow except survivor plants and plants like the black saxual and white saxual and ailanthus altissima and acacia auriculiformis and others can grow on such non-agricultural lands. The heat generated by composting can be used to run a series of low temperature and low pressure ammonia gas turbine generators while at the same time producing compost to be returned to these man-made forests.

[Topazman12]

Think about this. The government is putting efforts to hide all this.

[danfromabove]

@Topazman12 You don't need to burn books if people dont want to read.

[polylingue]

My one and only question is how in the hell did he pressurize the methane in order for his little car to run?

[Tossdart]

I don't agree with some of the negative remarks but agree that it would take effort for it to take place in a city setting. Our city uses brushed off limbs from around power lines, downed trees & so forth as mulch around city trees. However just as we should be growing permaculture in waste areas of cities we could grow, fast growing willows from cuttings as example. More efficient methods of harvest could be used by cities. Even turning off 1000 lights helps.

[HotSauceJohnny]

I was originally impressed by this, but now think of it as more of an experiment. The math doesn't work. First, It took so many people to build this system for a house for two people. Then, 500 liters of fuel = 132 gallons of gasoline. A very efficient home can use the equivalent of that for hot water and propane/natural gas. The system yields 18 months of fuel and hot water , but the narrator said that it takes 8 years for a forest to regenerate the 40 tons of wood. Am I missing something?

[benjamindees]

@HotSauceJohnny First, you missed the statement that it takes 8 years for just one hectare of forest to generate that much brush. So you only need about 8 hectare (20 acres) for a continuous harvest. You also appear to be missing the fact that fuel was not the only product. Hot water and compost were also produced.

[HotSauceJohnny]

@benjamindees ?? I said all of those things in my post (8 years, one hectare, hot water, fuel). Sounds like a lot of fun, but it's just not efficient. 8 hectares to sustain that small house for two people? Not sustainable if you ask me. But, if you happen to own 8 hectares of woodland and have an army of volunteers to help you make a 60 ton pile of wood chips and water, have a go at it!

[Jthetinman]

I wanna smell that seat of that bike!

[leighblackall]

I'm trying to find out the chemical composition of Polyethylene pipe (HDPE) (as used in this video and most other compost hot water systems), and whether any toxins are released at or near 60degC. When burned, HDPE released Hydrochloric acid gas. But so far nothing to say it does this at the relatively low temps of compost. I might need to take a trip to the local university.

[SONJEE]

ok, is there anyone else here who feels that this man died young? I would not be surprised if he met an untimely death by the hands of those who stood the chance to lose a lot if this info got out. What a loss but what a wonderful gift given to us who use Youtube to gain knowledge. Be well all and Namaste.

[marthale7]

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[leighblackall]

Help needed. The Wikipedia article for Jean Pain has been nominated for deletion due to not having enough credible references! Can you give me the exact title, producer and director of this video?

[ozricbish]

This is amazing !! I can't believe that local councils (UK) are not devising these on a large scale in light of peak oil...it is such a better answer than growing rapeseed for biomass...surely quick growing willow coppices would be ideal for this type energy extraction from composting. How feasible is it for a town garden, anyone any ideas?

[youskeff]

@ozricbish A few lucky people who live in the country side with access to a forest can support their energy requirement with this method. But it's a luxurious gift from nature to a few individuals. It cannot support a city population: We would need to cut down huge areas of forest. No, human population need to support their energy from the sun as directly as we can, our energy requirement is much larger than what we can sustainably take from nature.

[TemplarX2]

@ozricbish This would work where bushes are naturally abundant. Else you would deplete the soil of nutrients and you would need fertilizer more and more. However using grass is not a bad idea.

[leighblackall]

Many thanks for loading the video! I had no idea it existed. SO informative compared to the one and only Readers Digest article I was refering to when creating the wikipedia entry on him.

[margot980]

Some of this is inspiring, but I find the first part so petro intensive. You need a plain saw, not a chainsaw, to cut little branches like that. In many cases really strong clippers would be faster.

[AuCinaoaMie]

If you run a tractor on methane produced by this method, then it becomes much less "petro intensive." Additionally this can be used as a heat source to run an ethanol still, thus making more than enough heating fuel to produce ethanol to run chainsaws as well as tractors and your car.

It is all in the application of what you get from it, using the products to start them again. It makes a complete cycle when you use this for heat and power, if you dont rely on oil based fuel or transportation.