It's these kind of amateur vids I love, b/c they are taken w/ ordinary Americans who have the knowledge/rank to proclaim the stuff USGov told us is pure BS and equates to TREASON w/o a shadow of doubt.
At this point the only ones who peddle the official 9/11 cover-up story are people who profit from the age-old belief in "The Noble Lie."
What a fuckin retard. They trained in a 757 SIMULATOR you dumb motherfucker! Gee, if it was an inside job, where did all the people on the jets go? Where did the jets themselves go? They never came home! LMAO!
Were all the folks who called home from the doomed jets involved in the conspiracy? Like my neighbor who I grew up with & was a College student & sweet girl?
@falcondriver100 riiiiight cause if you know how to run the SIM you know how to fly a fucking plane with no issues right? lol thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard in my life. And the planes could have been demolished in Iraq for all we know. And for all we know they could have flown the planes into the buildings, but it was Osama and the Bush administration who came up with the idea, they were good friends ya know? Point is no one knows what happened, so dont bash ppl with your ignorance.
@topherlinc Uh, I'm a pilot & anyone can steer a plane once its in the air you dipshit. Its not real hard! It also depends on the AMOUNT Of training. A simulator is EXACTLY the same as the real jet.
"Demolished in Iraq"?? LMAO! I guess the USAF did mid-air refueling on them.........OH SHIT, airliners aren't equipped for mid air refueling......Dayum!
"It was Osama and the Bush admin who came up with the idea". Followed by "No one knows what happened, don't bash ppl with ignorance". LMAO!
@falcondriver100 Judging from all the "lmao" and caps, that kinda tells me you are intimidated. I was just throwing out possiblities dude, chill out, and no, a sim is nothing like real life, you probably have no idea how to fly a 757. Next you're probably going to try to tell me that the Bilderberg Group doesnt exist lol. I suggest you do your research on what this country is really up to and really investigate what really happened on 9/11 not by what our government tells you. Fucking Puppet
@topherlinc Oh yeah you've got me shaking in my boots! Hahaha!! No I don't fly a 757, I fly a Falcon 20 & a Gulfstream III & a simulator is EXACTLY like the real jets, to the point the FAA allows you to log sim time as flying time! You have no idea what you're talking about.
Tell us all what REALLY happened on 9/11 !!! Can't wait for this shit!
1) Try to belittle 9/11 truthers with mindless insults. That is weak.
2) Outright lie about 9/11 truthers.
3) Don't say ONE thing of substance. That belies your intellectual impoverishment.
4) Mention people who aren't even 9/11 truthers or are on the very fringes - people who are nutty to the vast majority of 9/11 truthers (like Lear) (i.e., you rely on strawman arguments).
firefighters for 9/11 truth, pilots for 9/11 truth, military officers for 9/11 truth, medical professionals for 9/11 truth, architects & engineers for 9/11 truth, physics for 9/11 truth, lawyers for 9711 truth ...ah, right, all of those men and women are brain dead conspiracy freaks, right...
@tubenshaft Some dickhead spammed your comment,i tried to unspam it :( But its funny to me how when people get threatened by the TRUTH they shut everything in their way down.Just in a doc. i was watching where 2 guys were filming on a public sidewalk with every right to film and be there, but one of the guys who thinks that "9/11 truth is bs" called the police on them and said that they had BOMBS in their back packs. Its amazing how when threatened the weakest will do anything to shy the truth
@Underwood4321 "none of these Truthie fucks, including this old drunk pilot, has ever had the balls to question the Aerospace Web conclusions that the Pentagon debris was indeed from a 757"
They're not likely to dispute AerospaceWeb either, since none of them even have the engineering expertise, and are such laughingstocks now among real pilots that they can't even find a job anymore.
"John Lear, and so on are legends ... Their comments pull alot of weight with me"
Naturally, because you're an ignorant fuck.
John Lear is insane. He claims the gov't has secret flying saucer bases in Antarctica, where they smuggle back all the material they secretly mine on the moon and Mars.
Naturally, Truthers don't see anything crazy in that since they believe nuttier shit about 9-11 every day.
"architectural white elephant filled with asbestos that needed removal"
The reason the whole world laughs at you idiots is because you keep repeating the same old bullshit.
Asbestos was only in about 12 floors of WTC 1, and NONE was in WTC 2 or WTC 7. And there was NO requirement to remove any. You make that shit up, everyone laughs, then you repeat it again as if you didn't have good sense.
@spazmodicbip they were on fire for hours the stell infrastructure was mortaly wounded causing the weight of the floors above impact to crash down thru each lower floor gathering more momentum and weight as each and every floor calapsed, i dont see how stupid you people can be a 250,000LB metal object slammed into a tall lanky building at around 600mph while carrying 80,000LB of highly combustable jet fuel!!! and the turn was over dramatizied on the difficulty of it the guy had nothing but room
@OrloTheM3D1C fuel burned at impact and right after. there were people standing at the impact site,so the heat couldn't have been that bad. and if the top floors would have collapsed, they wouldn't have been able to turn the whole freaking building into dust. both of them!! in the same fashion. this was a planned event, created for the whole world to see it live on tv, so "we all would be americans" now. do some research and listen to over a 1000 architects, pilots, scientist & historians!
@tubenshaft how were people standing at impact site that were 77 and 93 floors above ground; and dude read what i said alittle more carefully I clearly said the top floors CRASHED down through the lower floors (thus collapsing the LOWER floors), not that the top floors collapsed themselves. and for those thousand that agree with you youll easily find the other millions that dont support your theories at all. btw true americans are always united and will be that way forever
@OrloTheM3D1C "for those thousand that agree with you"
I don't doubt that there are thousands of people stupid enough to swallow the Truthie sperm, but as the cult sinks further and further into irrelevance, even Alex Jones can't draw a crowd of them bigger than about six at a time.
Last time he tried it the NY firemen chased his fat ass away. He waddled mighty fast, with a couple of teenage butt-buddies, before the first responders kicked his porcine ass for insulting the victims.
@tubenshaft "the heat couldn't have been that bad...building into dust"
Nobody except brain-dead conspiracy freaks claim that the bldgs turned to dust. Looking at GZ photos disproves that quickly.
Nobody said the heat was that bad at the entrance hole 30 minutes later. Heat had less to do with the collapse than heat DIFFERENTIAL. Not that Truthies even understand that.
Truthy engineers & scientists are phonies, which is why not one of them grew the balls to publish a dispute to NIST.
@MsgtSpook why don't you have a look at firefighters for 9/11 truth, pilots for 9/11 truth, architects&engineers for 9/11 truth, lawyers for 9/11 truth, veterans for 9/11 truth, military officers for 9/11 truth, physics for 9/11 truth medical professionals for 9/11 truth....all of them brain dead consp freaks?
firefighters for 9/11 truth, pilots for 9/11 truth, military officers for 9/11 truth, medical professionals for 9/11 truth, architects & engineers for 9/11 truth, physics for 9/11 truth, lawyers for 9711 truth ...ah, right, all of those men and women are brain dead conspiracy freaks, right...
@OrloTheM3D1C 600 mph? at 1000 ft above sea level its hardly possible to aim the plane since it responds very poorly to pilot commands if at all. But hey believe waht you want.
The WTC complex was an enormous architectural white elephant filled with asbestos that needed removal and with far too few tenants. The WTC had been built too large & strong, the cost of deconstruction, an estimated 15 billion, far outweighed whatever profit an owner might gain from years of ownership. But a buyer did step forward. Larry Silverstein, and purchased the property, maybe with the foresight the towers would be a good target for a false flay operation - Like the USS LIBERTY
He's not the only pilot that says he couldn't do it. Russ Wittenberg, John Lear, and so on are legends man. Their comments pull alot of weight with me. These guys have been flying for decades. Peace out.
I am puzzled as to why there was so little fuselage wreckage at the Shanksville crash. Planes don't just vapourise. Yes the will be torn open but not erradicated into thin air.
@Agui007 Right. all these technical arguments can be shut down by a single question: Where is the wreckage? The Aerospace Web conclusions are based on a couple of parts at the scene. No seats, no bodies, no clothing all over the place, not even the ever present fuselage. Vanished into the Twilight Zone
"It doesn't take ten minutes of research to find out the training of those pilots, and that Witteberg has his head up his ancient ass"
Ten minutes is more than Twoofers ever spend on research. That's why they still claim that these degenerate raghead cocksuckers never had any training, never had commercial pilots licenses, and had never flown anything besides a Cessna.
Like Wittenberg, their twisted emotional needs require bullshit like this, or their brains melt.
I notice that none of these Truthie fucks, including this old drunk pilot, has ever had the balls to question the Aerospace Web conclusions that the Pentagon debris was indeed from a 757, and that high speed, low-level fight is no problem at all.
In fact, Wittenberg hasn't appeared in public since the Aerospace Web articles were published. What's he afraid of? Massive laughter?
Can anyone explain how in the fucking world was the goverment able to plant bombs inside the columns of the buildings, which is the only possible fucking way they would effectively put bombs, without getting noticed without suspicion. Conspiracy is Bullfuck, and we all fucking know it.
They didn't plant bombs inside. Before the buildings were allowed to be built they had to create a plan to demolish them. No building that large had ever been built let alone brought down. They contracted it out to a company that decided that underground tunnels would be built 50 feet below the towers. When the time came to bring them down, an underground nuke would be set off, and they would fall in their own footprint. This is how it was done.
@gbatemper123 ..it has been explained..on going "maintenance" for months,possibly years of preparation..anybody who now 10yrs later hasnt seen the questions raised as totally legitimate is completely in denial,part of the problem or uneducated..the official explanation and all ensuing propaganda is bullfuck..and i gaurantee that each passing month, more and more are fucking knowing it!..regardless of somes efforts.
It should be noted that Wittenberg's qualifications are consistent with senior airline pipits of the era. If they all felt it was "impossible" for the less than fully trained hijackers to do what they appear to have done, there would be a lot of them saying so. Moreover Wittenberg's comments are sloppy and careless.
Saying the plane would "literally fall out of the sky" is literally hyperbole. Moreover, is he saying he flew the "actual aircraft" involved or just 757's and 767's? Can't tell.
@jeselmira2 "Moreover Wittenberg's comments are sloppy and careless."
Yeah, but it isn't entirely his fault. Being a real left-wing asshole, he was fully primed to believe anything he was told, without doing any research of his own. The Loose Change weenies carefully fed him a lot of bullshit, and he swallowed it all.
He's older than dirt, he hates Bush with a passion, so he jumped at any crap they fed him.
@jeselmira2 "Wittenberg's qualifications are consistent with senior airline pipits of the era"
Except that most of them haven't been grounded for years for flying under the influence. That's why Wittenberg was forced to retire. If the drunk bastard hadn't had his 20 years in, they'd have fired his staggering ass & sent him down the road.
The 9-11 pilots had commercial pilots licenses & had trained on 757/767 simulators. He says they had just piloted small Cessnas ... he's a goddam liar.
I wonder how much whiskey they had to pour down this old sod's gullet to get him to make a fool of himself for the whole world to see.
Funny that these crackpots can only find SIX people that claim to be structural engineers in their silly little cult -- but if you look up those six, not one of them has ever been certified as a structural engineer at the SECB or any other certifying body.
And of course not one of these phonies has ever had the balls to actually publish anything disputing NIST in any engineering journal, anywhere.
@LancedeBoil "Funny that these crackpots can only find SIX people that claim to be structural engineers in their silly little cult"
And not one of them is certified as a struct. engr, either.
That's why none of them have ever published anything disputing NIST or the many other structural analyses of the collapse -- there isn't anyone in their silly little cult who is even qualified to do structural engineering analysis.
Shit, no one in their little cult has EVER published an engineering paper
@zenoist2 "I would trust a pilot to know something about a planes capabilities"
Yeah, and you probably think cabdrivers know all about high-speed racing techniques, too. Dumbshit.
On the other hand, you're too fucking dumb to believe what real aeronautical engineers say, at AerospaceWeb (dot) com. They take this moron's stupid statements apart and show what an ignorant fool he is.
But of course you won't believe anything that doesn't support your loony crackpot delusions.
I would trust a pilot to know something about a planes capabilities instead of a goverment funded body such as NIST or any self proclaimed youtube "expert".
He's the guy that has to fly it after all and make sure the pasengers are safe.
If hes saying its impossible I beleive him.The whole 9/11 official report is utterly impossible but they still persist with their pathetic lies.
@duanexavier iah speak for yourself kiddo more than 50% of Americans Polled want to re-open the 911 investigation,
maybe you get your news about "americans" from the mainstream media. your not one to make sweeping generalizations about 300 millino people on the basis of National Origin, are you my little Hitler?
He also obviously hasn't done one bit of research on 9-11 and is just repeating crap he heard from some crackpot.
He seems completely unaware that these guys had COMMERCIAL PILOTS LICENSES and had trained in the same Boeing flight simulators that he did, for the same jetliners.
The shit he's describing makes it clear he has no idea what those planes did on 9-11, but is relying on phony shit from PrisonPlanet or some other crackpot website.
@HughJorgaan How the hell do YOU know all that you allege her.
It is YOU who are making up 'reasons" and stories to fit YOUR imagined scenario. Just because you don't want to imagine or admit that there might have been some foul play here, is not sufficient reason to call a former pilot senile. That is plan childish!
@insitevideoworks 9/11 was real and it really really looks like an inside job. They left so many loose ends. Leave it to the government to fuck up a good lie. They did n't do a very good job hiding JFK and probably many others.
@HughJorgaan Uh, you of course have done some prior research on Russ Wittenberg before you made that statement...? If you had, you would have known that Mr. Wittenberg was one of THE founding members of the 9-11 Truth movement AND he was a pilot who previously flew one of those planes as an airline pilot and knew very well the jet's capability.
He apparently did more research than either you or that idiot Wittenberg, who says those guys only flew in a 172 (a small Cessna) before 9-11. Obviously you don't even know the difference.
Atta & the other pilots had valid COMMERCIAL PILOTS LICENSES from the FAA, had attended flying schools before that, and had trained on the exact same simulators -- and same cockpits -- as the planes they hijacked.
Wittenberg is either a liar or an idiot. And you, too.
Yeah but YOU are thinking like a rational civilian pilot. Worried about the aircraft and your passengers. YOU are not a crazed islamic maniac foaming at the mouth to get to Alah and completely unconcerned with an air crafts limitations or the comfort of your passengers. I put it to you Mr expert pilot. Regardless of your opinion. 200 video cameras shooting that day saw exactly the same thing.
You idiot shills and dis-info agents. This man flew as a fighter pilot in the Vietnam war and for 30 years as a commercial pilot, he flew 2 of the actual planes involved in 9/11. Hanjour was a shmuck at best, i cant even believe you would attemp to discredit Russ. Anyone who does the shame is on you, If anyone is qualified to testify to the capabilities of a pilot and/or the aircraft this is the man. Fuck you for slandering an American veteran, your no patriot at all. 9/11 truth 2010
Hard to tell whether Wittenburg is a moron, or just senile.
He seems totally unaware that Hanjour and the other pilots were licensed commercial pilots and had trained in the same 757 simulators that Wittenberg trained in.
Having a pilot's license doesn't guarantee you're not a complete idiot and whackjob.
Look at Lear, the Twoofer's other favorite "expert pilot." Completely insane, swearing that we have govt-operated flying saucers commuting to secret bases on the moon & Mars.
You don't have to be a top pilot to steer a plane into some of the BIGGEST office buildings on the planet. Any idiot can punch in the autopilot settings and then just aim the motherfucker when you spot the target.
You've obviously never flown a plane. I have.
Even Bernard, the guy that wouldn't rent Hanjour a Cessna said he could have hit the building, easy. Quote:
@ReemYoranus , Hanjour couldn't fly a fucking kite. Anyone with Vietnam JET experience and 30 years flying commerical jets is not INSANE. I'll bet you couldn't land a weather balloon on Microsoft Flight Simulator (1992 edition)...
Very funny marc, LOL I just cant believe the ignorance of people. Of course, some of these posts are probably psyops/disinfo designed to create ire and invoke emotional, irrational retorts. Russ Wittenburg is definately credible and surely has the competence within the aviation industry to make this assumption based on experience and knowledge. This is not a post that can be debunked, there are but a handful of people in the world better qualified as a pilot than this gentlemen. period!!
Yes, the August 4th incident is a result of jittery, nervous sailors, but the August 2nd incident was real, which makers the August 4th incident moot.
The incident was not meant to provoke the North, since the U.S. ships were in international waters. The North attacked the ships by mistake, thinking it was involved in a coastal, covert action being conducted separately. They admit to the mistake.
As far as the Lusitania goes, I'd hurt your fragile ego.
CptJackAubreyRN (what's the RN stand for, are you a registered nurse?), I know all about the sinking of the the Lusitania, but if you had enough sense to read juancarlos comment, he's referring to the U.S. government, not the British.
Anytime you want to discuss the Lusitania sinking, let me know, it'll be a pleasure to kick your ass.
And idiot, are you implying that the Gulf of Tonking incident on August 2, 1964 never happened, or the incident on August 4, 1964 never happened? Which one?
If you cook the questions enough, you'll get the answers you want.
Truthers just feed bullshit angles & moves to some pilot, and he answers predictably.
They still can't get past a couple of hundred eyewitnesses who SAW the plane, or all the 757 parts found all over the scene, or the ATCs who tracked the plane in on radar.
So they peddle this silly crap, hoping to fool the teenage dipshits who make up most of the Twoof Movement.
all this proof and still we have idiots that deny the truth.check out , cornskid , this guy is so far out there its funny and he has lots of nice things to say about us. i say everyone pay him a visit and let him know how much of and ass he is.pls tell this prick i sent u to,lol. you wont be disappointed in his rants
your discrediting russ wittenberg? hes a veteran who seved this country and flew 2 of the planes used in 911. this is a very credible person, 30 years experience as a pilot, you think hes being paid to come out against the governments story. the same government he defended in war? well, Im more apt to listen to this man than anyone you can provide as credible to support your conspiracy theory.
I think a lot of you are missing the point. Listen to what the man states as his understanding of the facts. He makes the statement the situation could not have occurred as the Govt claims...period. This then suggests a conspiracy...which I frankly don't doubt. Govt's are nearly all alike, strictly in it for themselves and the hell with the rest of us.
yeh your right, forget about the 3rd tower that amazingly collapsed without any plane hitting it? oh yeh those terrorists were very skilled they hit the towers and specifically wanted debris to cause a fire on the third tower, the only person who is blind is you, use your brain if you have one it was an inside job.
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you littile conspiracy theorist should quit making yourtselves look so stupid by clinging to this tragedy and jump allover the TWA FLIGHT 800 debacle.. a blind man can see there is some sweepin under the rug goin on there.. i'll say it that whole deal was fucked up.. the government covered that whole deal up bigtime because if it came out at the time it was a missile .. we probably would have nuked somebody
You got that right, 1z1q. Big time cover up there. The liberal media doesn't want to touch that one. It would expose the incompetence in the Clinton administration.
Well, what say you, conspiracy theorists? Anyone want to take up that challenge? There's plenty of info available, if one is willing to open ones eyes.
yeh your right, forget about the 3rd tower that amazingly collapsed without any plane hitting it? oh yeh those terrorists were very skilled they hit the towers and specifically wanted debris to cause a fire on the third tower, the only person who is blind is you, use your brain if you have one it was an inside job.
i'll be the first one to question authority.. but you guys are wrong about 9-11..come on man the planes were caught on film.. american airlines passenger planes..the people got on them at airports .. right many family members witnessed them boarding the planes right..if those planes didnot hit the towers .. where are the dozens of people that took off in those planes.. that would mean the airlines have to be involved right.. the ATC that watched them on radar would have to be involved.. whatever
...so i decided to investigate this a little and i got myself into not only finding that 9/11 was an excuse to enter the war, but also MANY THINGS THAT I BEEN LIED ABOUT BACK IN HIGH SCHOOL. i was so pissed to know that my teacher was a lying ass puppy dog (hehe puppy cuz it was a woman :] ) and out of many things that i found out. One of them got me the most, was when JFK (The real last president the U.S. ever had) was killed by our own ppl, and the amazing thing is that he warned us about this
Name one credible engineer who will back up your theory. You're making the claim, so the burden of proof is on you.
The 9/11 Commission report was put together by people with a lot more knowledge and insight than both of us will ever have. It's not bullshit because you say so. Again, back up your story with any evidence and knowledge you possess. A persons word is not enough.
What proof do you have that our government was involved in the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor?
You're right, it's not bullshit because some person on the internet says so, it's bullshit because the 9/11 commissioners THEMSELVES say so. The people that put together the 9/11 commission all (most of them) say it was a complete joke and whitewash because of how much intelligence/information was blocked by the gov't and CIA and how many questions and testimonies they ignored. Just look up quotes by the 9/11 Commission members
The sinking of the Lusitania was done by a German submarine, which they admit to. Survivors also report seeing one of the torpedoes strike the ship. You have no case on this one, I'm surprised you even brought this up. Weak argument there.
Since you claim that JFK was killed by our own people (which I don't doubt) then tell me your version of who did it. And, how did he warn us, like you claim. What did JFK do to make you feel he was the last real president? This, I want to hear.
When you enter an arena of debate, which is what you have done, you have to be able to put together a convincing argument, backed up with proof. It's all about credibility. If you don't have that, then you are talking out of your ass.
Third, isn't this kind of event familiar? i mean didn't the gov did some fucked up shit like this in the past? Pearl Harbor? The sinking of the Lusatania? yeah i read the "High School history books" and at first everything looked normal...they picture the U.S. as: "Yeah we didn't know about it". I kinda didn't care about history, but then when i was start hearing the rumors about 9/11 i was like: WTF r ppl talking about? i didn't wanna believe that 9/11 was a false flag attck....(to be continue)
There are like a huge number of reasons why 9/11 was a false flag terrorism. I will start with the basics, first of all the 9/11 Commission report (I bet u haven't even read it) IT'S A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT THAT even a child will be like: "hehe i can make a better lie than this". Second, any engineer would tell u that is impossible for the WTC 1 and 2 to fall in a pancake fashion without the help of any explosives.
wow how old r u again? yeah really good come back....if i was ur age (5 or 6 i'm assuming) then yeah i would have fall for that 1...anyways ppl remember: gov is bad and 9/11 was a false flag ..whether u like it or not =]
Hey asshole, I see your back. Good. Oh, and don't confuse my age (5 or 6) with your I.Q.
I was hoping you could explain to me why government is bad. I'm guessing you went to todays public school system, since you sound like someone who's been brainwashed, and grew up on government assistance. You fit the profile perfectly. So what do you have against the government?
I would like to hear your explanation why you think 9/11 was a "false flag", whatever that means. Okay, genius, explain it to me.
THUD086 ur a bad liar.."I served in the Air Force in the Vietnam War too" hahaha what a fcking lying ass dog....anyways ur retarded every1 already knows that 9/11 was a false flag attack to enter the war at Iraq and eventually hit Iran..stop spreading ur arrogance and ignorance to people...the government is not what it used to be since JFK was killed by OUR OWN GOVERNMENT....it's time to wake up ppl!! stop listening to assholes like THUD086 and spread the word to other ppl.
Keep in mind people, this guy claims the ground radar could not track flight 77 because the transponder was turned off. UTTER BULLSHIT. Shutting off the transponder does not make the plane stealthy. It still shows on radar, with speed, direction, and altitude. All the transponder does is send out the planes identification.
If you conspiracy theorists are looking for a star to hitch your wagon to, this guy is not it.
THUD086 ur a fcking asshole...dont ever disrespect the veteran that once fought the Vietnam War......fcking bastard i see ur face around youtube and i ma beat u up!!!
Juanc4r10s, you little piece of human shit. I served in the Air Force in the Vietnam War too, but that doesn't mean I, or that pilot is an automatic expert on 9/11. My face is around enough on YouTube, you worthless son of a bitch. I ever see you around YouTube, I'll rip your fucking head off and take a shit right down your neck.
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This guys head must be stuck so far up his ass, he can actually peek out through his belly button. The planes hitting the towers are both on film. Even the plane crashing into the Pentagon was caught on a security camera. When this joker claims that he could not do what the terrorists did, then he must've been a pretty incompetent pilot. Probably flew a desk.
first, don't you dare call me un-american. i would gladly die for this country, if need be. second you are EXACTLY WRONG calling me authoritarian. im a classic anti-federalist, a true old school republican. i just dont believe sitting in your chair on your computer simply complaining and talking shit about your country is the way to change things. if you really care than take an active role to actually change things instead of just sitting there complaining. do something to make things better
haha wow, no you are just bitching. Unlike you, I have a lot of pride in my country and, dare I say it, I am proud to be an American. So if you want to complain about how awful this country is, then move to to France since that is apparently some kind of utopia that we NEED to become more like. Prove you actually mean what you say and you aren't just running your mouth. Actually move to France. The last thing we need is to move further from what made this country the greatest in the first place.
what the hell is wrong with this country. the last few years some people (still by far the minority) ridicule anyone with an ounce of patriotism. go to hell, or even better go to another country if you really hate america so bad. you reap the rewards of living here while bad mouthing the very hand that feeds your pathetic mouths. we dont want you here, and you dont want to be here. go to another country, maybe then you'll learn some respect. we are better off without you
Do some research...The Federal Reserve, Operation Northwoods, Gulf of Tonkin. They will give you some insight on what our country is capable of. We are not the most wealthy nation. Our war in Iraw is being funded by China. We are going bankrupt. Not to mention, Patriot Act I and II, The Military Commissions Act, etc...Our liberties and freedoms are being taken away one by one. That's what made our country great, freedom...not power or wealth. Stop promoting America, the bully.
And for the record I love America. It just makes me angry when power hungry elitist flush everything that is great about it down the toilet to fulfill their personal agenda. I have every right to question government policy making, especially when it takes away my freedom and destroys our economy.
ok tell me what freedom is being taken away. And when I was saying we are the wealthiest country in the world i didn't mean our government is the richest. I meant Gross Income Per Capita. That is by far the highest. The people here have the highest incomes in the world. Look at the possesions we have here versus the rest of the world. Next, don't embarrass yourself trying to talk economics, just from that last statement I know you don't know shit about economics.
Read both Patriot Acts and the Military Commissions Act and you will see what freedoms. What difference does Gross Income Per Capita mean if the value of the dollar is in the toilet? How can you say I know nothing about econimics, when you think that Gross Income Per Capita is the best indication of how an economy is doing? It means nothing. The Federal Reserve is devaluing the American Dollar so they can introduce the Amero. Why don't you research the North American Union and respond...
how sure are you of the amero? ive never heard of it being refered to seriously. and GIPC means how wealthy the average citizen is, which is more important than the gov. otherwise the country with the highest taxes and that does less for the people is the waelthiest. if the value of the currency was included in the GIPC than south korea would be the poorest country on earth (1023 of their currency = one of ours), not true
You're one of the WAY TO MANY people who has the idea that the Government is AMERICA and not the PEOPLE. We are America. Patriots defend the constitution not the government..when the government is not upholding our constitution. Learn a little US history before making these ridiculous statements.
haha so fucking wrong. no im somewhat of an anarchist. i want the gov as small as possible which is why ill never vote for a democrat. i just don't think playing the blame game so you can bitch about everything is the way to change things. take an active role to reduce gov size and power. do something about it, they need us, we don't need them.
Sitting in your chair on your computer simply complaining about people complaining is no way to change things. If you really care then take an active role to actually change things instead of just sitting there complaining about people complaining. Do something to make things better.
having the most military might doesn't prove anything other than a country's ability to win wars. Also, as for income, maybe you should take a look at the economy or the value of the USD from 1913 until now?
you all MUST see these videos: "september clues" and "911 amateur". they prove that there were no planes, but missiles.the tv broadcast on 911 was fake.
monkey bush and his friends must be judged for crime against humanity,like sadam was.
teneis que ver "september clues" y "911 amateur".prueban que no fueron aviones, sino misiles.
el mono bush y sus amigos deben ser juzgados por crímenes contra la humanidad,como lo fue sadam.
come one!!!!!! ual ac 6212 was a reg boeing 767-200!!!!!! I worked on that ac for many year. Its not hard to do try it on a sim. It is very said but 911 to happen as it is told to us!!!!! The world changed that day and for some people they cant deal with it!!! Also they had some training in a heavy jet sim.....look it up. To me it is very sad some people want to change history. I lost friends that day...... It was a sad day......
You're a dumbass if you still believe two airplanes destroyed 3 steel buildings. You are even more of an idiot if you believe Bin Laden is still alive especially due to the fact that he hasn't aged anytime these 6 years.
I would flame you for that if this was a few years ago. Now, I can't say it's wrong to say that. Sometimes, I even think the country deserves to get nuked. Look at how many idiotic Americans want to destroy Iran and different countries around the world.
The plot thinkinns...As civilians what do we do?? We are not soldiers, but to go up against the WORLDS most powerful gov is suicidal. Trust me, they make people like us dissapear all the time.
That may be easy for some to say, but the reality of it is(who would realy take death? apposed to liberty? You if faced with that decision?? Likely not..Im all for liberty but damn taking a knife to a gun fight equals no contest.
Just a few days before the attack some journalist were up in Helicopter and a UFO was captured on film why was it hanging out by the towers it makes you wonder did they use Area51 craft as well?
Total crap - I put kids with no flying experience in a large jet aircraft simulator; they hit the WTC first time. The hardest thing the terrorist did was push up the throttles and over speed the aircraft; no 5 g maneuvers or fancy flying, just crashing into buildings. You have to be nuts to believe Russ. Try asking more pilots. Anyone could fly as good at the terrorist did without training.
At the pentagon crash there were no pieces of a 757 found at that site. The markings left in the building were that of a cruise missile. At the Shanksville, PA crash there were no parts of a 757 just a hole with junk in it but not the junk that would come from a 757. No bodies found. It was all a set up to get a New Pearl Harbor. PNAC needed a New Pearl Harbor to make a war. This is what PNAC wanted and Cheney being a part of that group. Secrect Societies part of this? I would say so.
It's these kind of amateur vids I love, b/c they are taken w/ ordinary Americans who have the knowledge/rank to proclaim the stuff USGov told us is pure BS and equates to TREASON w/o a shadow of doubt.
At this point the only ones who peddle the official 9/11 cover-up story are people who profit from the age-old belief in "The Noble Lie."
dpetrano 2 months ago
INSIDE JOB plain to see.
sychophantt 6 months ago
What a fuckin retard. They trained in a 757 SIMULATOR you dumb motherfucker! Gee, if it was an inside job, where did all the people on the jets go? Where did the jets themselves go? They never came home! LMAO!
Were all the folks who called home from the doomed jets involved in the conspiracy? Like my neighbor who I grew up with & was a College student & sweet girl?
Fucking idiots. Get a life.
falcondriver100 6 months ago
@falcondriver100 riiiiight cause if you know how to run the SIM you know how to fly a fucking plane with no issues right? lol thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard in my life. And the planes could have been demolished in Iraq for all we know. And for all we know they could have flown the planes into the buildings, but it was Osama and the Bush administration who came up with the idea, they were good friends ya know? Point is no one knows what happened, so dont bash ppl with your ignorance.
topherlinc 6 months ago
@topherlinc Uh, I'm a pilot & anyone can steer a plane once its in the air you dipshit. Its not real hard! It also depends on the AMOUNT Of training. A simulator is EXACTLY the same as the real jet.
"Demolished in Iraq"?? LMAO! I guess the USAF did mid-air refueling on them.........OH SHIT, airliners aren't equipped for mid air refueling......Dayum!
"It was Osama and the Bush admin who came up with the idea". Followed by "No one knows what happened, don't bash ppl with ignorance". LMAO!
falcondriver100 6 months ago
@falcondriver100 Judging from all the "lmao" and caps, that kinda tells me you are intimidated. I was just throwing out possiblities dude, chill out, and no, a sim is nothing like real life, you probably have no idea how to fly a 757. Next you're probably going to try to tell me that the Bilderberg Group doesnt exist lol. I suggest you do your research on what this country is really up to and really investigate what really happened on 9/11 not by what our government tells you. Fucking Puppet
topherlinc 6 months ago
@topherlinc Oh yeah you've got me shaking in my boots! Hahaha!! No I don't fly a 757, I fly a Falcon 20 & a Gulfstream III & a simulator is EXACTLY like the real jets, to the point the FAA allows you to log sim time as flying time! You have no idea what you're talking about.
Tell us all what REALLY happened on 9/11 !!! Can't wait for this shit!
Fucking nutjob!
falcondriver100 6 months ago
Love how you guys either:
1) Try to belittle 9/11 truthers with mindless insults. That is weak.
2) Outright lie about 9/11 truthers.
3) Don't say ONE thing of substance. That belies your intellectual impoverishment.
4) Mention people who aren't even 9/11 truthers or are on the very fringes - people who are nutty to the vast majority of 9/11 truthers (like Lear) (i.e., you rely on strawman arguments).
5) Have the vocabularies of 10 year olds.
babarishka 6 months ago
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tubenshaft 8 months ago
@tubenshaft Some dickhead spammed your comment,i tried to unspam it :( But its funny to me how when people get threatened by the TRUTH they shut everything in their way down.Just in a doc. i was watching where 2 guys were filming on a public sidewalk with every right to film and be there, but one of the guys who thinks that "9/11 truth is bs" called the police on them and said that they had BOMBS in their back packs. Its amazing how when threatened the weakest will do anything to shy the truth
topherlinc 6 months ago
@Underwood4321 "none of these Truthie fucks, including this old drunk pilot, has ever had the balls to question the Aerospace Web conclusions that the Pentagon debris was indeed from a 757"
They're not likely to dispute AerospaceWeb either, since none of them even have the engineering expertise, and are such laughingstocks now among real pilots that they can't even find a job anymore.
MsgtSpook 8 months ago 6
"John Lear, and so on are legends ... Their comments pull alot of weight with me"
Naturally, because you're an ignorant fuck.
John Lear is insane. He claims the gov't has secret flying saucer bases in Antarctica, where they smuggle back all the material they secretly mine on the moon and Mars.
Naturally, Truthers don't see anything crazy in that since they believe nuttier shit about 9-11 every day.
MsgtSpook 8 months ago 7
@MsgtSpook "Truthers don't see anything crazy in that since they believe nuttier shit about 9-11 every day"
Amazing how many of their "experts" are bat-shit insane:
Lear, of course, who thinks there are secret UFO bases at the S. Pole & that we are mining Mars & the moon.
"Professor" Jones, who "proved" that Jesus visited South America
Their star "architect" Ronald F Avery, who claims he time-travels with Jesus all over the galaxy.
Like birth defects, delusions usually come in multiples.
BlazingFerret 8 months ago 4
"architectural white elephant filled with asbestos that needed removal"
The reason the whole world laughs at you idiots is because you keep repeating the same old bullshit.
Asbestos was only in about 12 floors of WTC 1, and NONE was in WTC 2 or WTC 7. And there was NO requirement to remove any. You make that shit up, everyone laughs, then you repeat it again as if you didn't have good sense.
Which we already knew, of course.
MsgtSpook 8 months ago 7
@spazmodicbip they were on fire for hours the stell infrastructure was mortaly wounded causing the weight of the floors above impact to crash down thru each lower floor gathering more momentum and weight as each and every floor calapsed, i dont see how stupid you people can be a 250,000LB metal object slammed into a tall lanky building at around 600mph while carrying 80,000LB of highly combustable jet fuel!!! and the turn was over dramatizied on the difficulty of it the guy had nothing but room
OrloTheM3D1C 9 months ago 2
@OrloTheM3D1C steel*, to make the turn he was flying in open air and shit dude they just showed a clip of the turn it wasnt too intense at all!
OrloTheM3D1C 9 months ago
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@OrloTheM3D1C fuel burned at impact and right after. there were people standing at the impact site,so the heat couldn't have been that bad. and if the top floors would have collapsed, they wouldn't have been able to turn the whole freaking building into dust. both of them!! in the same fashion. this was a planned event, created for the whole world to see it live on tv, so "we all would be americans" now. do some research and listen to over a 1000 architects, pilots, scientist & historians!
tubenshaft 8 months ago
@tubenshaft how were people standing at impact site that were 77 and 93 floors above ground; and dude read what i said alittle more carefully I clearly said the top floors CRASHED down through the lower floors (thus collapsing the LOWER floors), not that the top floors collapsed themselves. and for those thousand that agree with you youll easily find the other millions that dont support your theories at all. btw true americans are always united and will be that way forever
OrloTheM3D1C 8 months ago 5
@OrloTheM3D1C "for those thousand that agree with you"
I don't doubt that there are thousands of people stupid enough to swallow the Truthie sperm, but as the cult sinks further and further into irrelevance, even Alex Jones can't draw a crowd of them bigger than about six at a time.
Last time he tried it the NY firemen chased his fat ass away. He waddled mighty fast, with a couple of teenage butt-buddies, before the first responders kicked his porcine ass for insulting the victims.
MsgtSpook 8 months ago 7
@MsgtSpook i like your syle spook.
OrloTheM3D1C 8 months ago
@tubenshaft "the heat couldn't have been that bad...building into dust"
Nobody except brain-dead conspiracy freaks claim that the bldgs turned to dust. Looking at GZ photos disproves that quickly.
Nobody said the heat was that bad at the entrance hole 30 minutes later. Heat had less to do with the collapse than heat DIFFERENTIAL. Not that Truthies even understand that.
Truthy engineers & scientists are phonies, which is why not one of them grew the balls to publish a dispute to NIST.
MsgtSpook 8 months ago 8
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tubenshaft 8 months ago
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tubenshaft 8 months ago
@OrloTheM3D1C 600 mph? at 1000 ft above sea level its hardly possible to aim the plane since it responds very poorly to pilot commands if at all. But hey believe waht you want.
ssike0 6 months ago
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The WTC complex was an enormous architectural white elephant filled with asbestos that needed removal and with far too few tenants. The WTC had been built too large & strong, the cost of deconstruction, an estimated 15 billion, far outweighed whatever profit an owner might gain from years of ownership. But a buyer did step forward. Larry Silverstein, and purchased the property, maybe with the foresight the towers would be a good target for a false flay operation - Like the USS LIBERTY
MsNoKOOLaid 1 year ago
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He's not the only pilot that says he couldn't do it. Russ Wittenberg, John Lear, and so on are legends man. Their comments pull alot of weight with me. These guys have been flying for decades. Peace out.
dozer3955 1 year ago
idiot!
AgentPepsi1 1 year ago
I am puzzled as to why there was so little fuselage wreckage at the Shanksville crash. Planes don't just vapourise. Yes the will be torn open but not erradicated into thin air.
Agui007 1 year ago
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@Agui007 Right. all these technical arguments can be shut down by a single question: Where is the wreckage? The Aerospace Web conclusions are based on a couple of parts at the scene. No seats, no bodies, no clothing all over the place, not even the ever present fuselage. Vanished into the Twilight Zone
tromboista 1 year ago
@tromboista Look at Lockerbie.
Agui007 1 year ago
@Agui007 you can watch the mayor of Shanksville, the first person on the scene say, "there is no plane there."
kenman 6 months ago
"It doesn't take ten minutes of research to find out the training of those pilots, and that Witteberg has his head up his ancient ass"
Ten minutes is more than Twoofers ever spend on research. That's why they still claim that these degenerate raghead cocksuckers never had any training, never had commercial pilots licenses, and had never flown anything besides a Cessna.
Like Wittenberg, their twisted emotional needs require bullshit like this, or their brains melt.
MsgtSpook 1 year ago 6
I notice that none of these Truthie fucks, including this old drunk pilot, has ever had the balls to question the Aerospace Web conclusions that the Pentagon debris was indeed from a 757, and that high speed, low-level fight is no problem at all.
In fact, Wittenberg hasn't appeared in public since the Aerospace Web articles were published. What's he afraid of? Massive laughter?
Underwood4321 1 year ago 6
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@Underwood4321 good for you, that you aren't afraid of laughter.
tubenshaft 8 months ago
@arisuta2 "They trained on 737 simulators"
So you don't have an answer for why this senile old crackpot LIED about them only training on Cessnas?
Drug use?
Alzheimer's?
Or just stupid enough to believe everything he reads on PrisonPlanet, like you?
Underwood4321 1 year ago 6
so...would it have to be a military spec aircraft....reinforced and under computer control?
Sounds good to me.
00Billy 1 year ago
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Stop fighting what you know to be true.
Its not a question of you "wont" believe this, its a question of you "cant" believe this.
There is a difference.
By telling yourself that this "cant" happen, it means that you are fighting, resisting and denying yourself the truth.
Change is coming and we all feel it. Stop resisting an embrace the fact that we are not masters of our own soul.
Mantyszyger 1 year ago
Can anyone explain how in the fucking world was the goverment able to plant bombs inside the columns of the buildings, which is the only possible fucking way they would effectively put bombs, without getting noticed without suspicion. Conspiracy is Bullfuck, and we all fucking know it.
gbatemper123 1 year ago 4
@gbatemper123
They didn't plant bombs inside. Before the buildings were allowed to be built they had to create a plan to demolish them. No building that large had ever been built let alone brought down. They contracted it out to a company that decided that underground tunnels would be built 50 feet below the towers. When the time came to bring them down, an underground nuke would be set off, and they would fall in their own footprint. This is how it was done.
Google, "Dimitri Khalezov "
velocity73R 1 year ago
@velocity73R "an underground nuke would be set off"
Makes as much sense as most of the Truthie bullshit.
The WTC was nuked by magical nukes that left no fallout, no EMP, no trace of its existence anywhere. And a SILENT nuke, to boot.
Alert the media! The Truthies have outdone themselves in the Stupid Department. Again.
Underwood4321 1 year ago 6
@velocity73R "an underground nuke would be set off"
You're really raising the bar for stupidity among Truthers. This is even funnier than the "holographic planes" bullshit.
Were invisible Demolition Elves part of your theory, too?
ROFLMAO
blueshark69 8 months ago 7
@gbatemper123 "Conspiracy is Bullfuck, and we all fucking know it. "
Except for a few weird little teenage twats who now exist only on Youtube, since the Truthie Cult is effectively dead.
Hits on their websites are down 80% in the past two years.
Underwood4321 1 year ago 6
@gbatemper123 ..it has been explained..on going "maintenance" for months,possibly years of preparation..anybody who now 10yrs later hasnt seen the questions raised as totally legitimate is completely in denial,part of the problem or uneducated..the official explanation and all ensuing propaganda is bullfuck..and i gaurantee that each passing month, more and more are fucking knowing it!..regardless of somes efforts.
whisperinwindcried67 9 months ago
It should be noted that Wittenberg's qualifications are consistent with senior airline pipits of the era. If they all felt it was "impossible" for the less than fully trained hijackers to do what they appear to have done, there would be a lot of them saying so. Moreover Wittenberg's comments are sloppy and careless.
Saying the plane would "literally fall out of the sky" is literally hyperbole. Moreover, is he saying he flew the "actual aircraft" involved or just 757's and 767's? Can't tell.
jeselmira2 1 year ago 3
@jeselmira2 "Moreover Wittenberg's comments are sloppy and careless."
Yeah, but it isn't entirely his fault. Being a real left-wing asshole, he was fully primed to believe anything he was told, without doing any research of his own. The Loose Change weenies carefully fed him a lot of bullshit, and he swallowed it all.
He's older than dirt, he hates Bush with a passion, so he jumped at any crap they fed him.
Underwood4321 1 year ago 9
@jeselmira2 "Wittenberg's qualifications are consistent with senior airline pipits of the era"
Except that most of them haven't been grounded for years for flying under the influence. That's why Wittenberg was forced to retire. If the drunk bastard hadn't had his 20 years in, they'd have fired his staggering ass & sent him down the road.
blueshark69 8 months ago 7
@blueshark69 The dude must know what he's talking about,having the skills to be able to fly airoplanes around--drunk! Yeah!!!
chuckolove 3 months ago
Wittenberg is a lying piece of shit.
The 9-11 pilots had commercial pilots licenses & had trained on 757/767 simulators. He says they had just piloted small Cessnas ... he's a goddam liar.
I wonder how much whiskey they had to pour down this old sod's gullet to get him to make a fool of himself for the whole world to see.
ReemYoranus 1 year ago 4
@ReemYoranus "I wonder how much whiskey they had to pour down this old sod's gullet "
Not much. He sounds like he had a real buzz on to begin with.
Alcoholism is an occupational disease among pilots.
Underwood4321 1 year ago 6
@inspired14U "the architects and engineers"
Funny that these crackpots can only find SIX people that claim to be structural engineers in their silly little cult -- but if you look up those six, not one of them has ever been certified as a structural engineer at the SECB or any other certifying body.
And of course not one of these phonies has ever had the balls to actually publish anything disputing NIST in any engineering journal, anywhere.
Probably because they can't do the math.
LancedeBoil 1 year ago 8
@LancedeBoil "Funny that these crackpots can only find SIX people that claim to be structural engineers in their silly little cult"
And not one of them is certified as a struct. engr, either.
That's why none of them have ever published anything disputing NIST or the many other structural analyses of the collapse -- there isn't anyone in their silly little cult who is even qualified to do structural engineering analysis.
Shit, no one in their little cult has EVER published an engineering paper
blueshark69 8 months ago 7
@zenoist2 "I would trust a pilot to know something about a planes capabilities"
Yeah, and you probably think cabdrivers know all about high-speed racing techniques, too. Dumbshit.
On the other hand, you're too fucking dumb to believe what real aeronautical engineers say, at AerospaceWeb (dot) com. They take this moron's stupid statements apart and show what an ignorant fool he is.
But of course you won't believe anything that doesn't support your loony crackpot delusions.
LancedeBoil 1 year ago 7
I would trust a pilot to know something about a planes capabilities instead of a goverment funded body such as NIST or any self proclaimed youtube "expert".
He's the guy that has to fly it after all and make sure the pasengers are safe.
If hes saying its impossible I beleive him.The whole 9/11 official report is utterly impossible but they still persist with their pathetic lies.
zenoist2 1 year ago
@duanexavier iah speak for yourself kiddo more than 50% of Americans Polled want to re-open the 911 investigation,
maybe you get your news about "americans" from the mainstream media. your not one to make sweeping generalizations about 300 millino people on the basis of National Origin, are you my little Hitler?
BTW nobody likes you either
poosaypirate 1 year ago
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electricshiver 1 year ago
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This old fart is just babbling bullshit that someone told him, and he's too gullible to actually check on what maneuvers occurred with Flt 77.
Aerospace engineers say he's completely full of shit.
tinyurl (dot) com/ysjpnu
blueshark69 1 year ago 5
Bravo for speaking your mind Russ. Love ya!
ruffdiamondz 2 years ago
This man is an idiot, obviously senile.
He also obviously hasn't done one bit of research on 9-11 and is just repeating crap he heard from some crackpot.
He seems completely unaware that these guys had COMMERCIAL PILOTS LICENSES and had trained in the same Boeing flight simulators that he did, for the same jetliners.
The shit he's describing makes it clear he has no idea what those planes did on 9-11, but is relying on phony shit from PrisonPlanet or some other crackpot website.
HughJorgaan 2 years ago 3
@HughJorgaan How the hell do YOU know all that you allege her.
It is YOU who are making up 'reasons" and stories to fit YOUR imagined scenario. Just because you don't want to imagine or admit that there might have been some foul play here, is not sufficient reason to call a former pilot senile. That is plan childish!
insitevideoworks 1 year ago
@insitevideoworks 9/11 was real and it really really looks like an inside job. They left so many loose ends. Leave it to the government to fuck up a good lie. They did n't do a very good job hiding JFK and probably many others.
doughauf 1 year ago
@doughauf the CIA likes to kill its own people. CIA stands for Cancel Innocent Americans.
a4gregjockca 1 year ago
"How the hell do YOU know all that you allege her"
It doesn't take ten minutes of research to find out the training of those pilots, and that Witteberg has his head up his ancient ass.
more time than you spent, of course.
ReemYakrevice 1 year ago 6
@HughJorgaan Uh, you of course have done some prior research on Russ Wittenberg before you made that statement...? If you had, you would have known that Mr. Wittenberg was one of THE founding members of the 9-11 Truth movement AND he was a pilot who previously flew one of those planes as an airline pilot and knew very well the jet's capability.
electronfun 1 year ago
"prior research on Russ Wittenberg"
He apparently did more research than either you or that idiot Wittenberg, who says those guys only flew in a 172 (a small Cessna) before 9-11. Obviously you don't even know the difference.
Atta & the other pilots had valid COMMERCIAL PILOTS LICENSES from the FAA, had attended flying schools before that, and had trained on the exact same simulators -- and same cockpits -- as the planes they hijacked.
Wittenberg is either a liar or an idiot. And you, too.
ReemYakrevice 1 year ago 4
"govt-operated flying saucers commuting to secret bases on the moon & Mars"
If you swallow the Truther sperm, it isn't such a big leap to swallow the UFO & moon-mining bullshit, too.
ResurrectedFish 2 years ago 3
Yeah but YOU are thinking like a rational civilian pilot. Worried about the aircraft and your passengers. YOU are not a crazed islamic maniac foaming at the mouth to get to Alah and completely unconcerned with an air crafts limitations or the comfort of your passengers. I put it to you Mr expert pilot. Regardless of your opinion. 200 video cameras shooting that day saw exactly the same thing.
roquefortfiles 2 years ago
You idiot shills and dis-info agents. This man flew as a fighter pilot in the Vietnam war and for 30 years as a commercial pilot, he flew 2 of the actual planes involved in 9/11. Hanjour was a shmuck at best, i cant even believe you would attemp to discredit Russ. Anyone who does the shame is on you, If anyone is qualified to testify to the capabilities of a pilot and/or the aircraft this is the man. Fuck you for slandering an American veteran, your no patriot at all. 9/11 truth 2010
babybluesnowden 2 years ago 3
@babybluesnowden , well said. From a Canadian friend. You're spot on my friend!
marcpinke 2 years ago
Hard to tell whether Wittenburg is a moron, or just senile.
He seems totally unaware that Hanjour and the other pilots were licensed commercial pilots and had trained in the same 757 simulators that Wittenberg trained in.
Having a pilot's license doesn't guarantee you're not a complete idiot and whackjob.
Look at Lear, the Twoofer's other favorite "expert pilot." Completely insane, swearing that we have govt-operated flying saucers commuting to secret bases on the moon & Mars.
ReemYoranus 2 years ago
"Hanjour and the other pilots were licensed commercial pilots"
So what that they had "pilot licenses". these licenses doesn't make you a good pilot.
This women has also a driver licenses but ... can she drive?
/watch?v=ZKxA6EpWEC0
Lietuvispartizan 2 years ago
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"these licenses doesn't make you a good pilot"
You don't have to be a top pilot to steer a plane into some of the BIGGEST office buildings on the planet. Any idiot can punch in the autopilot settings and then just aim the motherfucker when you spot the target.
You've obviously never flown a plane. I have.
Even Bernard, the guy that wouldn't rent Hanjour a Cessna said he could have hit the building, easy. Quote:
tinyurl (DOT) com/cocx8u
blaupunkt455 2 years ago 3
@ReemYoranus , Hanjour couldn't fly a fucking kite. Anyone with Vietnam JET experience and 30 years flying commerical jets is not INSANE. I'll bet you couldn't land a weather balloon on Microsoft Flight Simulator (1992 edition)...
marcpinke 2 years ago
Very funny marc, LOL I just cant believe the ignorance of people. Of course, some of these posts are probably psyops/disinfo designed to create ire and invoke emotional, irrational retorts. Russ Wittenburg is definately credible and surely has the competence within the aviation industry to make this assumption based on experience and knowledge. This is not a post that can be debunked, there are but a handful of people in the world better qualified as a pilot than this gentlemen. period!!
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"handful of people in the world better qualified as a pilot than this gentlemen"
One of them is John Lear, who is crazier than a shithouse rat (and a Truther, too -- hardly surprising)..
Since when does a pilot's license guarantee sanity? Hanjour had one, too.
ResurrectedFish 2 years ago 3
"Hanjour couldn't fly a fucking kite"
You're saying, then, that someone with a commercial pilot's license can't fly?
The same commercial license that causes you to hump Wittenberg's leg and drool on his crotch?
As the guy who wouldn't rent Hanjour a plane pointed out, once the fucking thing is in the air he could have steered it into a building, easy.
I was flying Piper Cubs and a Cessna 140 when I was 8 yrs old. You, obviously, have never flown shit.
ResurrectedFish 2 years ago 3
Yes, the August 4th incident is a result of jittery, nervous sailors, but the August 2nd incident was real, which makers the August 4th incident moot.
The incident was not meant to provoke the North, since the U.S. ships were in international waters. The North attacked the ships by mistake, thinking it was involved in a coastal, covert action being conducted separately. They admit to the mistake.
As far as the Lusitania goes, I'd hurt your fragile ego.
I'll send you a vid you can comment on.
THUD086 2 years ago 2
CptJackAubreyRN (what's the RN stand for, are you a registered nurse?), I know all about the sinking of the the Lusitania, but if you had enough sense to read juancarlos comment, he's referring to the U.S. government, not the British.
Anytime you want to discuss the Lusitania sinking, let me know, it'll be a pleasure to kick your ass.
And idiot, are you implying that the Gulf of Tonking incident on August 2, 1964 never happened, or the incident on August 4, 1964 never happened? Which one?
THUD086 2 years ago
"I ascribed to the "there were no planes at the trade centres either" theory"
Well, that explains the rest of your stupidity. Aside from being a teenage twat.\, of course.
Cordite hasn't been used since WW2, and certainly not in any missile.
Plenty of steel bldgs have fallen from fire, and without being hit by planes first. Google it, dumbshit.
Just parroting lame shit from PrisonPlanet & InfoWars doesn't impress anyone.
FarmGirlJB 2 years ago
If you cook the questions enough, you'll get the answers you want.
Truthers just feed bullshit angles & moves to some pilot, and he answers predictably.
They still can't get past a couple of hundred eyewitnesses who SAW the plane, or all the 757 parts found all over the scene, or the ATCs who tracked the plane in on radar.
So they peddle this silly crap, hoping to fool the teenage dipshits who make up most of the Twoof Movement.
FarmGirlJB 2 years ago
@FarmGirlJB
" hoping to fool the teenage dipshits who make up most of the Twoof Movement." . . .
. . . and the architects and engineers as well, I suppose?
inspired14U 1 year ago
all this proof and still we have idiots that deny the truth.check out , cornskid , this guy is so far out there its funny and he has lots of nice things to say about us. i say everyone pay him a visit and let him know how much of and ass he is.pls tell this prick i sent u to,lol. you wont be disappointed in his rants
governmentcheese411 2 years ago 2
Yay!
I've been asking these questions since 9/12/01.
No one has duplicated the feats of airmanship of these nutty rookies alleged to have pulled it off.
KutWrite 2 years ago 3
this man is a REAL PROFESSIONEL, AN EXPERT.
thanks to his courageous explanations everybody can easily understand, why the official theorie is the real conspiracytheorie.
freidenki 2 years ago 6
I agree with this pilot and my entire instrument flight class agrees (since we analyzed the flight 77 strike). Pilotsfor911truth (dot) org
qantmrckr 3 years ago 6
"agree with this pilot and my entire instrument flight class agrees (since we analyzed the flight 77 strike)"
Yeah, right. One more bullshitter posting his fantasies on Youtube.
Been over to the JREF Forum to talk to the pilots there, and try to sell your amateur hallucinations to them?
As if you had the balls.
FarmGirlJB 2 years ago
your discrediting russ wittenberg? hes a veteran who seved this country and flew 2 of the planes used in 911. this is a very credible person, 30 years experience as a pilot, you think hes being paid to come out against the governments story. the same government he defended in war? well, Im more apt to listen to this man than anyone you can provide as credible to support your conspiracy theory.
babybluesnowden 2 years ago 5
I think a lot of you are missing the point. Listen to what the man states as his understanding of the facts. He makes the statement the situation could not have occurred as the Govt claims...period. This then suggests a conspiracy...which I frankly don't doubt. Govt's are nearly all alike, strictly in it for themselves and the hell with the rest of us.
agostomi 3 years ago 4
4,811 "views" in ~one year, and there is 6,720,000,000 people in the world... New World Order is happy with this statistics...
oxiigen 3 years ago
yeh your right, forget about the 3rd tower that amazingly collapsed without any plane hitting it? oh yeh those terrorists were very skilled they hit the towers and specifically wanted debris to cause a fire on the third tower, the only person who is blind is you, use your brain if you have one it was an inside job.
remixguru3 3 years ago 6
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you littile conspiracy theorist should quit making yourtselves look so stupid by clinging to this tragedy and jump allover the TWA FLIGHT 800 debacle.. a blind man can see there is some sweepin under the rug goin on there.. i'll say it that whole deal was fucked up.. the government covered that whole deal up bigtime because if it came out at the time it was a missile .. we probably would have nuked somebody
1z1q 3 years ago
You got that right, 1z1q. Big time cover up there. The liberal media doesn't want to touch that one. It would expose the incompetence in the Clinton administration.
Well, what say you, conspiracy theorists? Anyone want to take up that challenge? There's plenty of info available, if one is willing to open ones eyes.
THUD086 3 years ago
yeh your right, forget about the 3rd tower that amazingly collapsed without any plane hitting it? oh yeh those terrorists were very skilled they hit the towers and specifically wanted debris to cause a fire on the third tower, the only person who is blind is you, use your brain if you have one it was an inside job.
remixguru3 3 years ago
i'll be the first one to question authority.. but you guys are wrong about 9-11..come on man the planes were caught on film.. american airlines passenger planes..the people got on them at airports .. right many family members witnessed them boarding the planes right..if those planes didnot hit the towers .. where are the dozens of people that took off in those planes.. that would mean the airlines have to be involved right.. the ATC that watched them on radar would have to be involved.. whatever
1z1q 3 years ago
...so i decided to investigate this a little and i got myself into not only finding that 9/11 was an excuse to enter the war, but also MANY THINGS THAT I BEEN LIED ABOUT BACK IN HIGH SCHOOL. i was so pissed to know that my teacher was a lying ass puppy dog (hehe puppy cuz it was a woman :] ) and out of many things that i found out. One of them got me the most, was when JFK (The real last president the U.S. ever had) was killed by our own ppl, and the amazing thing is that he warned us about this
Juanc4rl0s 3 years ago
Name one credible engineer who will back up your theory. You're making the claim, so the burden of proof is on you.
The 9/11 Commission report was put together by people with a lot more knowledge and insight than both of us will ever have. It's not bullshit because you say so. Again, back up your story with any evidence and knowledge you possess. A persons word is not enough.
What proof do you have that our government was involved in the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor?
THUD086 3 years ago
You're right, it's not bullshit because some person on the internet says so, it's bullshit because the 9/11 commissioners THEMSELVES say so. The people that put together the 9/11 commission all (most of them) say it was a complete joke and whitewash because of how much intelligence/information was blocked by the gov't and CIA and how many questions and testimonies they ignored. Just look up quotes by the 9/11 Commission members
trtnec 2 years ago 3
The sinking of the Lusitania was done by a German submarine, which they admit to. Survivors also report seeing one of the torpedoes strike the ship. You have no case on this one, I'm surprised you even brought this up. Weak argument there.
Since you claim that JFK was killed by our own people (which I don't doubt) then tell me your version of who did it. And, how did he warn us, like you claim. What did JFK do to make you feel he was the last real president? This, I want to hear.
THUD086 3 years ago
When you enter an arena of debate, which is what you have done, you have to be able to put together a convincing argument, backed up with proof. It's all about credibility. If you don't have that, then you are talking out of your ass.
THUD086 3 years ago
Third, isn't this kind of event familiar? i mean didn't the gov did some fucked up shit like this in the past? Pearl Harbor? The sinking of the Lusatania? yeah i read the "High School history books" and at first everything looked normal...they picture the U.S. as: "Yeah we didn't know about it". I kinda didn't care about history, but then when i was start hearing the rumors about 9/11 i was like: WTF r ppl talking about? i didn't wanna believe that 9/11 was a false flag attck....(to be continue)
Juanc4rl0s 3 years ago
JESUS CHRIST u again!!!
Omg OK i'll try to make this brief:
There are like a huge number of reasons why 9/11 was a false flag terrorism. I will start with the basics, first of all the 9/11 Commission report (I bet u haven't even read it) IT'S A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT THAT even a child will be like: "hehe i can make a better lie than this". Second, any engineer would tell u that is impossible for the WTC 1 and 2 to fall in a pancake fashion without the help of any explosives.
Juanc4rl0s 3 years ago
wow how old r u again? yeah really good come back....if i was ur age (5 or 6 i'm assuming) then yeah i would have fall for that 1...anyways ppl remember: gov is bad and 9/11 was a false flag ..whether u like it or not =]
Juanc4rl0s 3 years ago
Hey asshole, I see your back. Good. Oh, and don't confuse my age (5 or 6) with your I.Q.
I was hoping you could explain to me why government is bad. I'm guessing you went to todays public school system, since you sound like someone who's been brainwashed, and grew up on government assistance. You fit the profile perfectly. So what do you have against the government?
I would like to hear your explanation why you think 9/11 was a "false flag", whatever that means. Okay, genius, explain it to me.
THUD086 3 years ago
THUD086 ur a bad liar.."I served in the Air Force in the Vietnam War too" hahaha what a fcking lying ass dog....anyways ur retarded every1 already knows that 9/11 was a false flag attack to enter the war at Iraq and eventually hit Iran..stop spreading ur arrogance and ignorance to people...the government is not what it used to be since JFK was killed by OUR OWN GOVERNMENT....it's time to wake up ppl!! stop listening to assholes like THUD086 and spread the word to other ppl.
Juanc4rl0s 3 years ago
Hey asshole, did your mother ever have any children that lived?
THUD086 3 years ago
Keep in mind people, this guy claims the ground radar could not track flight 77 because the transponder was turned off. UTTER BULLSHIT. Shutting off the transponder does not make the plane stealthy. It still shows on radar, with speed, direction, and altitude. All the transponder does is send out the planes identification.
If you conspiracy theorists are looking for a star to hitch your wagon to, this guy is not it.
THUD086 3 years ago
THUD086 ur a fcking asshole...dont ever disrespect the veteran that once fought the Vietnam War......fcking bastard i see ur face around youtube and i ma beat u up!!!
Juanc4rl0s 3 years ago
Juanc4r10s, you little piece of human shit. I served in the Air Force in the Vietnam War too, but that doesn't mean I, or that pilot is an automatic expert on 9/11. My face is around enough on YouTube, you worthless son of a bitch. I ever see you around YouTube, I'll rip your fucking head off and take a shit right down your neck.
THUD086 3 years ago
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This guys head must be stuck so far up his ass, he can actually peek out through his belly button. The planes hitting the towers are both on film. Even the plane crashing into the Pentagon was caught on a security camera. When this joker claims that he could not do what the terrorists did, then he must've been a pretty incompetent pilot. Probably flew a desk.
THUD086 3 years ago
lol i bet thud086 is right. if no one could do it then how could the gov do it?
sleeperjd317 3 years ago
first, don't you dare call me un-american. i would gladly die for this country, if need be. second you are EXACTLY WRONG calling me authoritarian. im a classic anti-federalist, a true old school republican. i just dont believe sitting in your chair on your computer simply complaining and talking shit about your country is the way to change things. if you really care than take an active role to actually change things instead of just sitting there complaining. do something to make things better
sleeperjd317 3 years ago
haha wow, no you are just bitching. Unlike you, I have a lot of pride in my country and, dare I say it, I am proud to be an American. So if you want to complain about how awful this country is, then move to to France since that is apparently some kind of utopia that we NEED to become more like. Prove you actually mean what you say and you aren't just running your mouth. Actually move to France. The last thing we need is to move further from what made this country the greatest in the first place.
sleeperjd317 3 years ago
what the hell is wrong with this country. the last few years some people (still by far the minority) ridicule anyone with an ounce of patriotism. go to hell, or even better go to another country if you really hate america so bad. you reap the rewards of living here while bad mouthing the very hand that feeds your pathetic mouths. we dont want you here, and you dont want to be here. go to another country, maybe then you'll learn some respect. we are better off without you
sleeperjd317 3 years ago
Do some research...The Federal Reserve, Operation Northwoods, Gulf of Tonkin. They will give you some insight on what our country is capable of. We are not the most wealthy nation. Our war in Iraw is being funded by China. We are going bankrupt. Not to mention, Patriot Act I and II, The Military Commissions Act, etc...Our liberties and freedoms are being taken away one by one. That's what made our country great, freedom...not power or wealth. Stop promoting America, the bully.
bobdiver7 3 years ago
And for the record I love America. It just makes me angry when power hungry elitist flush everything that is great about it down the toilet to fulfill their personal agenda. I have every right to question government policy making, especially when it takes away my freedom and destroys our economy.
bobdiver7 3 years ago 3
ok tell me what freedom is being taken away. And when I was saying we are the wealthiest country in the world i didn't mean our government is the richest. I meant Gross Income Per Capita. That is by far the highest. The people here have the highest incomes in the world. Look at the possesions we have here versus the rest of the world. Next, don't embarrass yourself trying to talk economics, just from that last statement I know you don't know shit about economics.
sleeperjd317 3 years ago
Read both Patriot Acts and the Military Commissions Act and you will see what freedoms. What difference does Gross Income Per Capita mean if the value of the dollar is in the toilet? How can you say I know nothing about econimics, when you think that Gross Income Per Capita is the best indication of how an economy is doing? It means nothing. The Federal Reserve is devaluing the American Dollar so they can introduce the Amero. Why don't you research the North American Union and respond...
bobdiver7 3 years ago 2
how sure are you of the amero? ive never heard of it being refered to seriously. and GIPC means how wealthy the average citizen is, which is more important than the gov. otherwise the country with the highest taxes and that does less for the people is the waelthiest. if the value of the currency was included in the GIPC than south korea would be the poorest country on earth (1023 of their currency = one of ours), not true
sleeperjd317 3 years ago
You're one of the WAY TO MANY people who has the idea that the Government is AMERICA and not the PEOPLE. We are America. Patriots defend the constitution not the government..when the government is not upholding our constitution. Learn a little US history before making these ridiculous statements.
marisaml77 3 years ago 3
haha so fucking wrong. no im somewhat of an anarchist. i want the gov as small as possible which is why ill never vote for a democrat. i just don't think playing the blame game so you can bitch about everything is the way to change things. take an active role to reduce gov size and power. do something about it, they need us, we don't need them.
sleeperjd317 3 years ago
You're just complaining about people complaining. It makes you look petty and assinine.
cadhamjer 3 years ago
...and you're just complaining about me complaining about people comlaining, and its making you look petty and assinine. shut up ur such a hypocrite
sleeperjd317 3 years ago
Sitting in your chair on your computer simply complaining about people complaining is no way to change things. If you really care then take an active role to actually change things instead of just sitting there complaining about people complaining. Do something to make things better.
You need some life experience little boy.
cadhamjer 3 years ago
You need to reattach your balls, ED stricken old man
sleeperjd317 3 years ago
he what country are you from? i can guarentee the US could kick the shit out of whatever your sorry ass country is.
sleeperjd317 3 years ago
But we are STILL the most powerful and wealthy country on earth. Fuck dude you are a crackhead conspiracy theorist.
sleeperjd317 3 years ago
ROFL! America is barely the most powerful, and certainly not the most wealthy. I love it when idiots post this blind nationalistic bullshit
Kymus 3 years ago
haha show some proof dumbass we are the most powerful and our average income far exceeds the No.2
sleeperjd317 3 years ago
having the most military might doesn't prove anything other than a country's ability to win wars. Also, as for income, maybe you should take a look at the economy or the value of the USD from 1913 until now?
Kymus 3 years ago 2
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@sleeperjd317 HAHAHAHAAAA!!!! right, you just keep on believing that! all of you who think like that!!!
tubenshaft 8 months ago
i dont care what ANYONE SAYS WERE FUCKED I HATE THE MEDIA WOW WE ARE STUPID HUMANS... SAVE AN ANIMLA KILL A HUMAN
diecrewdeluks 4 years ago
you all MUST see these videos: "september clues" and "911 amateur". they prove that there were no planes, but missiles.the tv broadcast on 911 was fake.
monkey bush and his friends must be judged for crime against humanity,like sadam was.
teneis que ver "september clues" y "911 amateur".prueban que no fueron aviones, sino misiles.
el mono bush y sus amigos deben ser juzgados por crímenes contra la humanidad,como lo fue sadam.
greetings from spain
saludos desde españa.
jesudel 4 years ago
come one!!!!!! ual ac 6212 was a reg boeing 767-200!!!!!! I worked on that ac for many year. Its not hard to do try it on a sim. It is very said but 911 to happen as it is told to us!!!!! The world changed that day and for some people they cant deal with it!!! Also they had some training in a heavy jet sim.....look it up. To me it is very sad some people want to change history. I lost friends that day...... It was a sad day......
seanemt1 4 years ago
indeed PNAC and cheney changed the world on that day. they are to blame for the loss of your friend.
Aanthanur 4 years ago 2
sorry man
sleeperjd317 3 years ago
ive heard about the global hawk, an unmanned aircraft, guided by satelite
diecrewdeluks 4 years ago 2
Or--guided by that big white jet that was over the pentagon too
1DarkWingDuck 4 years ago
more vids please,, interesting
diecrewdeluks 4 years ago 4
You're a dumbass if you still believe two airplanes destroyed 3 steel buildings. You are even more of an idiot if you believe Bin Laden is still alive especially due to the fact that he hasn't aged anytime these 6 years.
NukeA6 4 years ago 4
Actually Bin Laden was saying" I did WHAT???damn!! im being framed!!Is there a good lawyer out there???
searchn4mytruth 4 years ago
How about a special session of Congress,
have them sit down, give them some popcorn,
and show these films for information purposes.
The country should demand this action.
How dare they defy any citizen's right to be heard. Core beams are not magic beams.
the government.
teslaandlyne 4 years ago
chocolato15 (15 hours ago)
When?
lazydogs 4 years ago
FUCK USA
alwa3dalsadek 4 years ago 3
hahaha
tariqziyad 4 years ago
I would flame you for that if this was a few years ago. Now, I can't say it's wrong to say that. Sometimes, I even think the country deserves to get nuked. Look at how many idiotic Americans want to destroy Iran and different countries around the world.
NukeA6 4 years ago 6
It's not the people's fault. All over the world we have been duped on a massive scale by the U.S. government and the complicit media.
GhostyBoy13 4 years ago 3
The plot thinkinns...As civilians what do we do?? We are not soldiers, but to go up against the WORLDS most powerful gov is suicidal. Trust me, they make people like us dissapear all the time.
searchn4mytruth 4 years ago
searchn4mytruth (8 hours ago) So What?
"Give Liberty or Give Me Death."
lazydogs 4 years ago
That may be easy for some to say, but the reality of it is(who would realy take death? apposed to liberty? You if faced with that decision?? Likely not..Im all for liberty but damn taking a knife to a gun fight equals no contest.
searchn4mytruth 4 years ago
Thanks for the link stelioshajiioannou.
Just seen this in 911 Ripple Effect.
teslaandlyne 4 years ago 2
google loose change 2 recut
Ackdacka 4 years ago
All of the 9/11 press videos are fake.......
Sick shit!
Lungyao1 4 years ago
drones, the aircraft weren't civil airplanes, but modified models. 911 inside job for greed and money wake up people !!!
LucidQuest 4 years ago 3
maybe there were no planes in first place. All videos look fake, or maybe it was on some kind of advanced auto pilot.
Globox822 4 years ago
Just a few days before the attack some journalist were up in Helicopter and a UFO was captured on film why was it hanging out by the towers it makes you wonder did they use Area51 craft as well?
kannon9 4 years ago
anyone that promotes the no-plane theory is either a mindless dupe or is CIA COINTEL Pro. STOP PUSHING THE NO PLANE THEORY! IT'S BULLSHIT!
Kymus 3 years ago 2
Total crap - I put kids with no flying experience in a large jet aircraft simulator; they hit the WTC first time. The hardest thing the terrorist did was push up the throttles and over speed the aircraft; no 5 g maneuvers or fancy flying, just crashing into buildings. You have to be nuts to believe Russ. Try asking more pilots. Anyone could fly as good at the terrorist did without training.
knsbeachy 4 years ago
knsbeachy (2 days ago) Have you ever?
lazydogs 4 years ago
So your saying the pilot is full of crap??
searchn4mytruth 4 years ago
At the pentagon crash there were no pieces of a 757 found at that site. The markings left in the building were that of a cruise missile. At the Shanksville, PA crash there were no parts of a 757 just a hole with junk in it but not the junk that would come from a 757. No bodies found. It was all a set up to get a New Pearl Harbor. PNAC needed a New Pearl Harbor to make a war. This is what PNAC wanted and Cheney being a part of that group. Secrect Societies part of this? I would say so.
David777111 4 years ago