Xingyi uses both, first you learn the basics without a partner and when you´ve already gotten used to the movements, you NECESSARILY HAVE TO do it on a partner or you won´t learn the correct timing, distance, power, etc.
Yeh, teacher is really good. And apart of many his kung-fu is really alive. He really know applications and have experience in fight. Anyone can say his name?
I do Wing Chun and I like what I see. The teacher I think has good skills. His students aren't exactly picking what he's teaching correctly though. I wonder if it's because of a language barrier or them being just new to the whole thing.
This guy sucks, i was there last week for subscribe when a little guy show up and politely ask for a match. This master get very angry and start to push the other guy in the corner, after fiew warning from the other part, he finally get easilly beat up, and seperated by his student. Glad i didnt subscribe
this is crap, there are not realism in this. Can you post a video where the master is free sparring or students are free sparring. Or is it too dangerous for you guys.
This teacher is really good. He shows excellent speed and power, and illustrates the effectiveness of xing yi. I'm impressed, if you know what your looking at then this is a gem.
im sorry to say thats is stupid techniq.. you can not aply in realistic actual fight thats kind of techniq.. in practice only you will see the foot step of human dammy a right foot forward with a right punch.. no body will puch that the reality is if you punch a right fist your foot is on left forward for human balance and the puch is a spring and the atackers have a normal reaction ther left hand will break your combo... .sorry for my poor english.. think about it.....?
Whats not effective??? Sorry we dont understand your English, try again enterzenx after you finish school...lol By the way Great video Hai Yang I find it very realistic and practical the way you teach, a lot better the most other masters.
Well this isnt Boxing is it? Even Mayweather said "always" leading with your front hand makes you predictable...some things you do in boxing isnt always good on the street. Like how bobbing and weaving leaves u open to the thai/knee and clinch, Boxing footwork is open to leg kicks,the high boxing guard is open to double leg takedowns...
Some people forget boxers only have to worry about punches. Its a different game when multiple ranges are involved.
i'm concerned about the stance during/after entering, many times the aggressor in these exercises ends up heavily weighted on a straight front leg, almost leaning forward (such as 2:27) with a narrow foot placement. does xing yi practice rooting?
concerning the rooting question, it is a very complicated topic, or I can say it is very hard for beginner to understand the real meaning of rooting practice in TMA.
Xing Yi's root concept is much deeper than only static stance....
@whatisyournameya can you explain to me the advantages to coming so far forward in your stance that you have to step your back leg forward of your lead leg to regain your balance? (such as at 2:27)
@chronocide It's called shin bu and is one of the fundamental stepping patterns of this art, as well as many others. The idea is to explode your power forward onto the front foot and quickly bring the rear underneath you to re-establish ur root. Any real fighter knows that you can have a root no matter what stance ur in. fights dont happen in perfect form. This art is very sophisticated and very effective. And this teacher is the real deal.
@chronocide of coarse they practice good rooting but these two guys are doing fine,But from a guy who has been doing hsing for over 30 years now.These two are beginers.But I see what you mean cause the teacher is kinda being sloppy as well
I would be really interested in who this sifu learned from. Can you tell me whatisyournameya? The school I am training at uses very similar techniques and teaching methods. Most of our XingYi comes down from SunRuXian (also author of two books on the matter - only available in Chinese I am afraid) Maybe we are kungfu cousins?
No, that was not what I meant. You look younger than SunRuxiang :) I meant it more in a general way of saying that our schools might be related. If I look at your lineage (on your webpage) then the relationship seems more distant indeed. It is still very interesting to see how similar the forms are despite the distant relationship.
This is a great example of what a skilled instructor has to go through with students. Obviously the instructor has developed 'muscle memory' from years of dilligent practice and his techniques are now second nature. Its tough to translate that to newbies.
I am not a hater. I do not want to hate. Just an observation. It seems as though the sifu is so good, and has his own flow and style so much that when he demos the moves, his students don't understand the concepts. Thusly, his students begin to look rigid, stiff, and ineffective. He always pulls back his attacks and it appears to stunt the students understanding of the movements. I could be extremely wrong it seems as if they are just beginning to learn the moves too.
You know I understand your point on this, but the thing is sparring is the best way to start perfecting technique. Although they are stiff now, after some time the technique will become more fluid. They could use padding, but that impedes movement, and being a person that has actually been hit by some of those attacks, I have to say, it is dangerous if a real practitioner hits someone with the technique.
Also, the thing is in any marital art, the technique needs to be honed over time. And without sparring like this, muscle memory and coordination cannot be learned. The students would still be ineffective if they weren't taught in a method where they spar with actual people and just do forms. I know people who just do forms and have done it over a long period of time. It looks really fluid and awesome, but in a real situation, they have no coordination and muscle memory to make it useful.
Love your videos man, dont mind the shit talkers, people on youtube just like to bullshit and piss people off on purpose. Almost every video on boxing,jujutsu,karate even cooking shows have people "commenting" acting like they can do better and always trying sound like there an expert its really annoying. But I like your style its realistic and strong. I can tell your a good shifu. I kinda wish i was in canada lol I practise bei shaolin pai by the way.
Work needed - too much outside not enough inside. In the Bongquan you become to front weighted and the trailing back leg would be in danger if the force of your opponenet followed through. In the Heng you loose body connectedness and balance by trying to go too fast and you are entirely in the wrong position to strike with the shoulder - use the closest of the seven stars.
you are from taiwan, the island of the place where people know how to talk a lot but lack of real action or demonstration.
bengquan front weighted is nothing wrong at all, it is the transition of that movements.
to hengquan, you said it is entirely wrong position with the shoulder... you must be a beginner: strick with the shoulder is the higher level. seven stars? you are talking about tai chi or xing yi? why cannot use the closest star in your opinion?
Inside is evident outside if you know what you look for. Front weighted is fine and nessesary but unbalanced is not and leaving a leg in front of your opponent can not be justified.
So charging in with the shoulder is high level? You should only use it if it is closest but you could have struck with elbow or hand from that angle. Shoulder strike is good if you are close enough but not running past the elbow(!) - surely you at least know this?
1, students have to learn how to keep balance in strick. but they should not stop trying this kind of technique eventhough they can loss balance in the beginning. good balance skills come from practice not from avoiding certain techniques. so this video is for practice purposes, this is why sometimes, they initiated the movements even it was not the situation, but it is the way of training.
2, being able to strike with shoulders but with power is definitely higher level.
3, elbows can not pass the range or elbow, it is ture. for sure i know that. but in some situation this rule can be broken. and more precisely, the elbow should not PASS knee!!!
It's easy to see the portly gent @ 1:00 is very new based on his posture. He carries his weight in his chest, so he has no root, and also he tenses his shoulders while striking forward instead of letting the force travel through them. This is why his footing stumbles so much. It's a very common problem to overcome when learning an internal art.
The teacher seems very talented, though... I'm sure he'll help his student break these bad habits through more practice.
first i wanna say u guys are doing an awesome job and i love the way u guys train...but i will say this...u guys do beautiful techniques but from what ive seen u guys dont finish the attacker off...this can b very dangerous because ur body remembers they way u train...u wouldn't want to freeze up out on the street just cuz u nvr trained on how to finish somebody off...at least this is wat i was taught...take care and keep up the trainin :)
JeeYaoKuneDo: do a Google image search for "three body posture". This is the standard opening stance for the various xingyiquan fists. You will notice that one hand is facing downward at the dantien-- this is to protect the lower body region, including the groin. Each of the fists keeps a hand at dantien level pretty much all of the time. Between this and keeping your "center line" turned, the groin is pretty well defended.
Also, the goal is to hit them first before it becomes an issue! :)
By the way, Don't pay attention to harsh critics like "borongtao". You don't see him posting videos online, he just talks like he knows something. if i were you I'd just block him off.
Thank you for your kind words. I just read his comment again, i found out that he misunderstood it: what i am doing is not shanxi style, I am teaching Hebei style, which is different from Shanxi style. In shanxi style, they focus on a lot of vertical circle of hips but hebei style focus on it less...
These are very usefull and effective techniques. Thank you "whatisyournameya" For posting these. I'd love to see more. Or maybe even take some online lessons.
I have 45 years training from youth under grandfather and uncles. Perhaps you have longer? Your teacher is good but lacks training in vertical use of dantien. Perhaps he will get it soon. I wish him luck
i think you have to look more carefully: what i am teaching is not Shanxi style at all, i teach hebei style! the so-called vertical circle in hebei style is not focused as much as shanxi...
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lol...trainer is good.funny to see the student goes wrong way,the fist move only means 50% of skill,the footstep is equal important.tho they hit the target,they lose their balance,totally useless.
Almost all of these are actually defenses against a left jab, or a right, it works either way. My favorite is at 3:32, it looks like an angry tiger jumping on the poor guy. I call it "angry tiger jumping on poor guy"
I like it too. I bet to actually apply it must really turn a fight. It uses whole body power and also the fright of "pouncing" at the same time. The key is, in all these moves, is that one HAS to cultivate the spirit of xingyiquan, which is automatic and aggressive, like the animals imitated. It wouldn't be "mental shape" boxing if it weren't this way. It means to take on a mind of these elements and animals, to become a shaman in combat. So I think you have hit on something in your comment
xing yi is said to come from one of the most famous documented generals in china who fought the jin, drove out invading persians, laid the foundation for one of the 3 internals treasure, the foundation for eagle claw, made 8 section brocade qi gong, master of the spear,double headed spear and jian and you want to compare it to somehing as dubious as alamid? are you on drugs? i saw the vids. no hip, no connection of body, bad posture and no energy wether internal nor external. not impressed.
Once while he was demonstrating a Tech... I did try a cheap shotmove on him trying to give him a knee and he countered that realy amazingly and continued to show the moves like if nothing happened...Thats the thing he is soo good Master and so high level that for newbs like us its hard to understand!!!
Haha, agreed, with you Juan. Clygar is such a fake. I've been doing yang tai chi for only 3 years and i'm sure i can teach him a lot. Don't be too tense clygar! Before you judge someone, make sure you know him a little bit more.
I was impressed by the bigger guy's ettiquette, doing some "microreiki" on his uke when he accidentally was too rough, just to make sure the qi doesn't degrade, not to mention to avoid hard feelings. This sort of ettiquette is a very good sign about this school. I'd recommend it.
Very nice demo. This is very close to what I had been learning. The teacher is incredibly fast. What is his name? I'll check through the older posts to see if anyone asked that.
I love how they practice avoiding a 2 mile and hour jab which wouldn't even connect had they not blocked. No understanding of "live" distance. To heck with this mystical garbage.
i dont understand why you said mystical garbage. it looks like fighting to me and this is teaching footage not real combat. they have to learn then apply it in sparring. thats when it wont be a 2 mile and hour jab
How would you train? put on gloves and practice like any other style out there? Xing-I is very powerful, few have the b#$ to train the way it should be.
It's people like you who stand in range, block too soon and they smack you!! Timing is just as important as speed. Oh yeah, can't you see there are PRACTICING!
Exactly. He sounds like a non-martial artist, like some wanna be tough guy. A real martial artist distinguishes between obtaining the form of technique and reflex training drills. Also, timing is very key. Yet he may have a point of the uke is not aiming at you and swerves off, I have to fix underbelts with that all the time.
In addition, practicing for speed is simply idiotic. You get hit a lot, or he gets hurt, you both get shocked, stable training of the nervous system does not take place. Unless you are really really gonna clean his clock, if you wanna be "Mr.Real", then there is not much point in "going fast". I like to train "slow" I guess, but if you ever threw a real punch at me, I'd be all over you like white on rice. And I KNOW that.
I really agree with what you say about speed. I don't practice Xin Yi, even though a Chinese friend has shown me some easy moves, but I unfortunately experienced some 'real' situations. Speed or strength are really nothing (maybe some bonus...dunno), cause what matters is precision. Plus, being 'speedy' encourages panic.
Yeah. Speed only produces EFFECTIVE power when it is PRECISE. How can it be precise when I am flailing around? That is what most mean by speed: flailing. I'm not saying flailing can't be effective either. I'm talking about training technique as opposed to fighting technique. Each person will fight the way they must, and it will often look NOTHING like what they do in training. Anyone whose been in a real fight would know this. But, how we train is what makes our fighting effective or not
The PI form can knock the opponent out by 1 shot in the head :) By doing the form 10k times, it will come by nature, if you are really confident with one of the forms, you will hit the opponent's face by nature without thinking, you don't do the whole form :)
Ooops, I meant that last one for the "tough guy", a.k.a. "Mr. Real Punch". Anyways, Xingyiquan is about internal body mechanics in harmony and timing. We also train the psychology of the attack and defense, we know how to get in there when there is an opening, and we know what a "real punch" looks like, even though dumbo up there wants to be Mr. Real. I guess all xingyiquan guys around the world should just kowtow to him as our teacher, I guess...
As usual. When taught correctly Xingyi is the most devestating martial art known. Nice. Love the way you instructed them on ostrich and rooster. Nice Job!!!!
I have a few of Gary Lams dvd and the way he applies his chi sao etc. is what is missing from Hsing I and vice versa. I'll take tequila with that salt!
xin yi has beautiful fajin, but it seems to come after years of building ones rooting energy practicing the san ti posture. the practioners here have there center of balance very high, almost at the sternum and can be uprooted very easily. but they are young in the system and by young i mean probably a couple of years. good xin yi takes years to build.
no the teacher looks very sharp. i thinks his center is still a little high but i think that has more to do with the province his style comes from, he also looks like xing yi isnt the only style he has taken. his postures are great but his steps arent rooted like i have seen with other practitioners, but again that may just be his style,he looks like whatever he took before was very agile and light on the feet,not that its bad,i'm just used to seeing rooting similar to chen taiji chuan.
depends with what xingyi you learn some have 10 some have 12. dragon,tiger, horse, rooster, monkey, swallow, crocodile,goshawk, snake, bear eagle, tai and crane.
2, for the stepping, please do more researching of heibei style, i am from tianjin, the city where the most heibei masters came from(li cunyi, zhang zhaodong, xue dian, gao yisheng, liiu qilan...).this is how we practice in our city in high level. most video on internet will not show the application with this kind of step, because their application is kind of martial art rehearsal. with speed and power, this kind of step is the most applied in heibei style.
i took your advice and studied deeper into the xing yi lineage to better understand the different levels of force. i found teachings on ming jing, an jing, and hua jing. now i better understand the way and skill of your technique. i apologize if i offended you, and thank you for the lesson.
wing chun and the beng chuan of xin yi are almost identical, if you actually look up sifu rudy on youtube you will see what i mean, he even does a chasing punch identical to what yip man taught.
Yes. I am a WC, Hsing I, and Tai Chi person. I think WC and Hsing I need each other and compliment each other greatly. Usually most people do not agree with me as you do above. Also watch Gary Lam. He shows the true relaxed WC and you see the Hsing I connection.
Yes, we go to the WC before, after and even during XingYi class! JK.
Seriously, and this is MHO only so take it with a grain of salt, XY doesn't need WC at all. XY is a whole body process where as WC is only upper torso and a lot of chasing hands. If you do watch Gary Lam's video where he Pi Quan his student, you will see a lot of chasing hands before he slams the student. That is WC. If he would have slammed the guy in the first place, it would be XY. Just my opinion.
if you watch the way bruce lee or any other yip man student does wing chun you will see the same spiralling in the hips as you see xing yi. that mixed with the practitioner pulling one hand into the centerline as the othr hand strikes puts out alot of pop. you cant even say you dont notice the pop when you see bruce lee do a straight punch, or even in his chasing punches. tru i think xing yi has more pop available to it, but that is because of the stepping pattern involved with the punching.but
Actually WC does not chase hands, that is against the theory of WC. However, there are considerable trapping hands, as found in hsing i. Since I practice both arts I can tell you that Hsing I is more of a whole body system, but WC is not a upper torso style only. There are alot of WC people out there that do not understand what the art is truly suppose to be. I was lucky in the teacher that I found.
I believe most schools who teach internal kung fu. Will teach a external kung fu before an internal kung fu.
HandRpuffin 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
I practice karate, but if I should try something else, this might be it :)
Ruben1994OL 5 months ago
I'd love to see this applied in an actual competition.
qzniel 7 months ago
Very practical for fighting but not for sports.
lumri2002 9 months ago in playlist Martial Art/ Mix Martial Arts/ Cage fighting
hmm its better to learn it on they air then direct on people cuz in a situation like a fight u will not remember what u need to do
BadPastGoodFuture 1 year ago
Xingyi uses both, first you learn the basics without a partner and when you´ve already gotten used to the movements, you NECESSARILY HAVE TO do it on a partner or you won´t learn the correct timing, distance, power, etc.
nanhuazhenren 1 year ago
Yeh, teacher is really good. And apart of many his kung-fu is really alive. He really know applications and have experience in fight. Anyone can say his name?
TonyHanin 1 year ago
I do Wing Chun and I like what I see. The teacher I think has good skills. His students aren't exactly picking what he's teaching correctly though. I wonder if it's because of a language barrier or them being just new to the whole thing.
thewhoopimen 1 year ago
Thankyou for posting . This teacher seems very skilled
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This guy sucks, i was there last week for subscribe when a little guy show up and politely ask for a match. This master get very angry and start to push the other guy in the corner, after fiew warning from the other part, he finally get easilly beat up, and seperated by his student. Glad i didnt subscribe
fculan 1 year ago
Maybe balance excerises are needed for the newbz
PrsFenderJackson1980 1 year ago
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It is easy to defend oneself against a dummy punch. This video made me think of the one with Jim Carrey
JasonS018 1 year ago
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this is crap, there are not realism in this. Can you post a video where the master is free sparring or students are free sparring. Or is it too dangerous for you guys.
JasonS018 1 year ago
it's a shame that this video doesn't show techniques against kicks
es una lástima que este video no muestre técnicas contra las patadas
demoniosinalas 2 years ago
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shit!
culebrasty 2 years ago
@culebrasty Idiot.
Juan0003 1 year ago
@culebrasty Fuck YOU asshole
watts18269 1 year ago
lick my ass bitch!
culebrasty 1 year ago
I don't do requests :)
watts18269 1 year ago 2
This teacher is really good. He shows excellent speed and power, and illustrates the effectiveness of xing yi. I'm impressed, if you know what your looking at then this is a gem.
SIFUGARCIA 2 years ago 9
im sorry to say thats is stupid techniq.. you can not aply in realistic actual fight thats kind of techniq.. in practice only you will see the foot step of human dammy a right foot forward with a right punch.. no body will puch that the reality is if you punch a right fist your foot is on left forward for human balance and the puch is a spring and the atackers have a normal reaction ther left hand will break your combo... .sorry for my poor english.. think about it.....?
enterzenx 2 years ago
@enterzenx you may have a valid question, but I'm sorry to say that I didn't understand a word you wrote.
Juan0003 2 years ago
@enterzenx I am only guessing...since seriously I can't understand wtf you are trying to say, but I am assuming that you have never seen a JAB?
wualphaalpha 2 years ago
Whats not effective??? Sorry we dont understand your English, try again enterzenx after you finish school...lol By the way Great video Hai Yang I find it very realistic and practical the way you teach, a lot better the most other masters.
anhkhoinguyen 2 years ago
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anhkhoinguyen 2 years ago
we can't understand your English..haha please retype everything lmao j/k
anhkhoinguyen 2 years ago
people who have experience boxing say that leading with your cross is giving your opponent a favor. ALWAYS lead with your front hand!!!!!!
mixjourneyman 2 years ago
Well this isnt Boxing is it? Even Mayweather said "always" leading with your front hand makes you predictable...some things you do in boxing isnt always good on the street. Like how bobbing and weaving leaves u open to the thai/knee and clinch, Boxing footwork is open to leg kicks,the high boxing guard is open to double leg takedowns...
Some people forget boxers only have to worry about punches. Its a different game when multiple ranges are involved.
anhkhoinguyen 2 years ago
southpaw stance jab?
wooshoo 2 years ago
i'm concerned about the stance during/after entering, many times the aggressor in these exercises ends up heavily weighted on a straight front leg, almost leaning forward (such as 2:27) with a narrow foot placement. does xing yi practice rooting?
chronocide 2 years ago
just a quick answer:
concerning the rooting question, it is a very complicated topic, or I can say it is very hard for beginner to understand the real meaning of rooting practice in TMA.
Xing Yi's root concept is much deeper than only static stance....
whatisyournameya 2 years ago
@whatisyournameya can you explain to me the advantages to coming so far forward in your stance that you have to step your back leg forward of your lead leg to regain your balance? (such as at 2:27)
chronocide 1 year ago
@chronocide
The difference is knowing how to apply the movements in a lively way VS copying shapes from a book.
Juan0003 1 year ago
@chronocide It's called shin bu and is one of the fundamental stepping patterns of this art, as well as many others. The idea is to explode your power forward onto the front foot and quickly bring the rear underneath you to re-establish ur root. Any real fighter knows that you can have a root no matter what stance ur in. fights dont happen in perfect form. This art is very sophisticated and very effective. And this teacher is the real deal.
claygermano 6 months ago
@chronocide of coarse they practice good rooting but these two guys are doing fine,But from a guy who has been doing hsing for over 30 years now.These two are beginers.But I see what you mean cause the teacher is kinda being sloppy as well
michahberta 1 year ago
n_n jojo me encanta, corto, rapido, presiso como deve de ser un ataque
00urashima00 2 years ago
I love master Hiangs methods, but I would love to see some Xing Yi takedowns
randyds5 2 years ago
I would be really interested in who this sifu learned from. Can you tell me whatisyournameya? The school I am training at uses very similar techniques and teaching methods. Most of our XingYi comes down from SunRuXian (also author of two books on the matter - only available in Chinese I am afraid) Maybe we are kungfu cousins?
memetic23 2 years ago
Kungfu Cousin???
Do you think I am in that generation???
Hai Yang
whatisyournameya 2 years ago
No, that was not what I meant. You look younger than SunRuxiang :) I meant it more in a general way of saying that our schools might be related. If I look at your lineage (on your webpage) then the relationship seems more distant indeed. It is still very interesting to see how similar the forms are despite the distant relationship.
memetic23 2 years ago
this is very good. very practical stuff. those liver punches would drop anyone.
humbleboxer1 2 years ago
This master seems to be a good instructor.
bigfatdick5000 2 years ago
This is a great example of what a skilled instructor has to go through with students. Obviously the instructor has developed 'muscle memory' from years of dilligent practice and his techniques are now second nature. Its tough to translate that to newbies.
pollywogA1 2 years ago 8
I am not a hater. I do not want to hate. Just an observation. It seems as though the sifu is so good, and has his own flow and style so much that when he demos the moves, his students don't understand the concepts. Thusly, his students begin to look rigid, stiff, and ineffective. He always pulls back his attacks and it appears to stunt the students understanding of the movements. I could be extremely wrong it seems as if they are just beginning to learn the moves too.
unjedi7 2 years ago
You know I understand your point on this, but the thing is sparring is the best way to start perfecting technique. Although they are stiff now, after some time the technique will become more fluid. They could use padding, but that impedes movement, and being a person that has actually been hit by some of those attacks, I have to say, it is dangerous if a real practitioner hits someone with the technique.
dashen 2 years ago
Also, the thing is in any marital art, the technique needs to be honed over time. And without sparring like this, muscle memory and coordination cannot be learned. The students would still be ineffective if they weren't taught in a method where they spar with actual people and just do forms. I know people who just do forms and have done it over a long period of time. It looks really fluid and awesome, but in a real situation, they have no coordination and muscle memory to make it useful.
dashen 2 years ago 2
Love your videos man, dont mind the shit talkers, people on youtube just like to bullshit and piss people off on purpose. Almost every video on boxing,jujutsu,karate even cooking shows have people "commenting" acting like they can do better and always trying sound like there an expert its really annoying. But I like your style its realistic and strong. I can tell your a good shifu. I kinda wish i was in canada lol I practise bei shaolin pai by the way.
anhkhoinguyen 2 years ago 3
great applications
drchango2010 2 years ago
i really need 2 learn this kinda things up 2 keep haters away...
BasilTzzZ 2 years ago 4
Students have much to learn. Lack of balance, lack of Xing, lack of Yi.
hanselang 2 years ago
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MarkRocchio 2 years ago
Great display of speed, precision and power. Effective.
elenchus 2 years ago
what is your name ya?
danielpeci 3 years ago
its very useful. I like Hsing I, reminds me of wing chun in its directness.
streetkunedo 3 years ago 3
And with more mobile footwork.
jeffdoeskungfu 2 years ago
wow at 0:46
Shadyhunter04 3 years ago
if I move to Canada I know where to continue practising kung fu
eafkuor 3 years ago
Really impressive power, root and understanding. Thank you for posting.
r2007d 3 years ago
很好
iphone097 3 years ago
The asian guy with the glasses. Hes not a sifu........hes a Grandmaster, his skill is awesome. the students are pretty good too. nice stuff
randyds5 3 years ago
Agreed, six harmonies seem really well observed. Just goes to show the truly powerful nature of xing yi
TwimyoHu 3 years ago
I really like this teacher's form and applications - very connected, sharp and powerful
neijiaboy 3 years ago
Work needed - too much outside not enough inside. In the Bongquan you become to front weighted and the trailing back leg would be in danger if the force of your opponenet followed through. In the Heng you loose body connectedness and balance by trying to go too fast and you are entirely in the wrong position to strike with the shoulder - use the closest of the seven stars.
jimphung 3 years ago
you are from taiwan, the island of the place where people know how to talk a lot but lack of real action or demonstration.
bengquan front weighted is nothing wrong at all, it is the transition of that movements.
to hengquan, you said it is entirely wrong position with the shoulder... you must be a beginner: strick with the shoulder is the higher level. seven stars? you are talking about tai chi or xing yi? why cannot use the closest star in your opinion?
students made mistake but (cotinue)
whatisyournameya 3 years ago
their idea is allright.
curious: how can you judge inside of outside? what do you mean inside? can you see inside? can you show me some demo of inside?
i have been doing it for more than 30 years, i still do not get it... please help me if you CAN.
whatisyournameya 3 years ago
Inside is evident outside if you know what you look for. Front weighted is fine and nessesary but unbalanced is not and leaving a leg in front of your opponent can not be justified.
So charging in with the shoulder is high level? You should only use it if it is closest but you could have struck with elbow or hand from that angle. Shoulder strike is good if you are close enough but not running past the elbow(!) - surely you at least know this?
jimphung 3 years ago
1, students have to learn how to keep balance in strick. but they should not stop trying this kind of technique eventhough they can loss balance in the beginning. good balance skills come from practice not from avoiding certain techniques. so this video is for practice purposes, this is why sometimes, they initiated the movements even it was not the situation, but it is the way of training.
2, being able to strike with shoulders but with power is definitely higher level.
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whatisyournameya 3 years ago
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3, elbows can not pass the range or elbow, it is ture. for sure i know that. but in some situation this rule can be broken. and more precisely, the elbow should not PASS knee!!!
whatisyournameya 3 years ago
台灣許多武友看到楊海的功架、發力
還沒有一個不稱讚佩服的
Jimphung偏偏跟人家不一樣......
說真的
在台灣也不容易看到這麼爽脆俐落的......
smallkiss 2 years ago 2
在台灣也不容易看到這麼爽脆俐落的......
台湾形意很好么？？我没见过一个好的！！
big8templer 2 years ago
Wait a minute, you are telling a bunch of *STUDENTS* that they need work? No shit Sherlock.
Juan0003 3 years ago 2
good point Juan. It just cracks me up when ppl talk smack about MA vids here. They usually miss the forest for the trees.
robocoastie 3 years ago
It's easy to see the portly gent @ 1:00 is very new based on his posture. He carries his weight in his chest, so he has no root, and also he tenses his shoulders while striking forward instead of letting the force travel through them. This is why his footing stumbles so much. It's a very common problem to overcome when learning an internal art.
The teacher seems very talented, though... I'm sure he'll help his student break these bad habits through more practice.
7vezda 3 years ago
first i wanna say u guys are doing an awesome job and i love the way u guys train...but i will say this...u guys do beautiful techniques but from what ive seen u guys dont finish the attacker off...this can b very dangerous because ur body remembers they way u train...u wouldn't want to freeze up out on the street just cuz u nvr trained on how to finish somebody off...at least this is wat i was taught...take care and keep up the trainin :)
smdking24 3 years ago
I didn't know that deflections were used in XingYiQuan... Looks like Wing Chun?!
Oh btw., how isn't a XYQ-fighter worried about kicks to the groin?
JeeYaoKuneDo 3 years ago
JeeYaoKuneDo: do a Google image search for "three body posture". This is the standard opening stance for the various xingyiquan fists. You will notice that one hand is facing downward at the dantien-- this is to protect the lower body region, including the groin. Each of the fists keeps a hand at dantien level pretty much all of the time. Between this and keeping your "center line" turned, the groin is pretty well defended.
Also, the goal is to hit them first before it becomes an issue! :)
7vezda 3 years ago
By the way, Don't pay attention to harsh critics like "borongtao". You don't see him posting videos online, he just talks like he knows something. if i were you I'd just block him off.
Dimour1 3 years ago
Thank you for your kind words. I just read his comment again, i found out that he misunderstood it: what i am doing is not shanxi style, I am teaching Hebei style, which is different from Shanxi style. In shanxi style, they focus on a lot of vertical circle of hips but hebei style focus on it less...
but i do not like his over-judjemental.
hai yang
whatisyournameya 3 years ago
These are very usefull and effective techniques. Thank you "whatisyournameya" For posting these. I'd love to see more. Or maybe even take some online lessons.
Dimour1 3 years ago
Nice but not good by traditional standard, too much outside, too much wushu in modern Shanxi.
borongtao 3 years ago
what i can say is that you know nothing of xing yi.
you have to learn more .
whatisyournameya 3 years ago
I have 45 years training from youth under grandfather and uncles. Perhaps you have longer? Your teacher is good but lacks training in vertical use of dantien. Perhaps he will get it soon. I wish him luck
borongtao 3 years ago
my teacher? it is myself in the video.
Vertical circle? you have to see it carefully, everything is there.
45 years trainning? can you kindly show my your video? or we practice together????
whatisyournameya 3 years ago
I have no need to give you lesson. In true HongKong circles this is intermediatly standard at best.
borongtao 3 years ago
hongong circle? i think you must be from there, since i can smell it...
intermediate level? too high to me. i am just a beginner level. but i hope i can try it with you.
whatisyournameya 3 years ago
i think you have to look more carefully: what i am teaching is not Shanxi style at all, i teach hebei style! the so-called vertical circle in hebei style is not focused as much as shanxi...
whatisyournameya 3 years ago
Yeah, I study Wing Chun and it looks kinda similar too.....maybe because the principles are very similar?
Saying that if you look at most Kung Fu you are bound to see similarities to other arts.
They both have the same end result - hit the guy fast, hit the guy hard!
I do however wish to study this art also - the five fist seems to compliment Wing Chun nicely.
Why would anyone Xing Yi practitioner take the previous comment as an insult?
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bboybeno 3 years ago
that looks like wing chun applications
oyamarovic 3 years ago
you must be a very smart guy, so can you tell me what is wing chun?
whatisyournameya 3 years ago
xing yi people take this comment as insult...
whatisyournameya 3 years ago
let him slide i thought at first without looking into that it was wing chun because i didnt know better
tomas007 3 years ago
exactly, like some people said that baji looks like hung ka quan, insult big time
eagleclaw1080 2 years ago
I love this guy's moves.awesome knowledge!
cheekybastard29 3 years ago
awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
randyds5 3 years ago
lol...trainer is good.funny to see the student goes wrong way,the fist move only means 50% of skill,the footstep is equal important.tho they hit the target,they lose their balance,totally useless.
chnyadong 3 years ago
nice!
punadoman 4 years ago
great video. direct and to the point. hsing yi rocks
mev1980 4 years ago
I'd like to see the defense against a left jab.
Soulblackman 4 years ago
Defense for left jab:
Left earth fist against jab to right fire fist against solar plexus
Or if you want to go the way of the infamous Demonfist, just replace all the above with right woodfist via chickenstep to opponent center of mass.
j/k
grandkailong 3 years ago
Almost all of these are actually defenses against a left jab, or a right, it works either way. My favorite is at 3:32, it looks like an angry tiger jumping on the poor guy. I call it "angry tiger jumping on poor guy"
grandkailong 3 years ago
I like it too. I bet to actually apply it must really turn a fight. It uses whole body power and also the fright of "pouncing" at the same time. The key is, in all these moves, is that one HAS to cultivate the spirit of xingyiquan, which is automatic and aggressive, like the animals imitated. It wouldn't be "mental shape" boxing if it weren't this way. It means to take on a mind of these elements and animals, to become a shaman in combat. So I think you have hit on something in your comment
nejatarn 3 years ago
@grandkailong
:D
That should
eastpaw 1 year ago
nice kombinations... good teacher... quality...
budan02 4 years ago
Learn more about combat fighting,watch the ALAMID MARTIAL ART(alamid intro)and see how combatant strike works.
punadoman 4 years ago
xing yi is said to come from one of the most famous documented generals in china who fought the jin, drove out invading persians, laid the foundation for one of the 3 internals treasure, the foundation for eagle claw, made 8 section brocade qi gong, master of the spear,double headed spear and jian and you want to compare it to somehing as dubious as alamid? are you on drugs? i saw the vids. no hip, no connection of body, bad posture and no energy wether internal nor external. not impressed.
cfG21 4 years ago
Once while he was demonstrating a Tech... I did try a cheap shotmove on him trying to give him a knee and he countered that realy amazingly and continued to show the moves like if nothing happened...Thats the thing he is soo good Master and so high level that for newbs like us its hard to understand!!!
BajiJanos 4 years ago 2
He is a great guy also... as u can see no belts... or exams or other crap he just teaches u the way he was taught sincea kid
from his Father and Grandfather Im not sure
But I know he started like young kid...
Maybe some of you thinks that Ohhh you never
seen him in the ring or anything But he is realy Humble guy and would not wanna go in the ring anyways... Not cuz its not like
those MMA or sparring looking videos that
its not realistic!!!
BajiJanos 4 years ago 2
Hi all fello Martial artist... and yeah this
Shifu is the real deal I trained with him before!!!he truly has crazy power!!!
And his classes are realy hardcore.. its real streight up Chinese traditional conditioning
and those movements and stances these guys do
realy does work your body hard... it hurts like hell...
BajiJanos 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
More sloppy beginners. GJC
clygar 4 years ago
Oh please great master, tell us what is real or not!
p.s.: I've seen you video on you tube, I suggest to get decaffeinated coffee or a better laxative! LOL!
Juan0003 4 years ago
Haha, agreed, with you Juan. Clygar is such a fake. I've been doing yang tai chi for only 3 years and i'm sure i can teach him a lot. Don't be too tense clygar! Before you judge someone, make sure you know him a little bit more.
Bemap30 2 years ago
wow! you know nothing of what can be used for real self defense do you?
you probably want to see someone kill another person while hitting them in the toe right?
jeetkunedo117 4 years ago
theres another clip of this guy teachin tai chi. who exactly is this guy? these moves look alot like some muay tai moves and wing chu moves..
merLin123a 4 years ago
Muay thai and wing chung? Hardly. The teacher shown is very good, without a doubt you are seeing Chinese Hsing Yi chuan.
UFMD1 4 years ago
direct conflict
cimr99 4 years ago
I think this teacher is very good. His own performances of xing yi and ba gua zhang are totally tight and it seems he also can teach. Great stuff!
martinlundrasmussen 4 years ago 2
fking killer !
rot1488 4 years ago
this reminds me sooooooo much of pak mei with the sinking and the stance and also the way they step foward during an attack, i likkkkkkeeeeeee
wushulion 4 years ago
I'm impressed too for the serious keiko of the students. Everyone makes is job with truth and not against the other.
mntrfl 4 years ago
I was impressed by the bigger guy's ettiquette, doing some "microreiki" on his uke when he accidentally was too rough, just to make sure the qi doesn't degrade, not to mention to avoid hard feelings. This sort of ettiquette is a very good sign about this school. I'd recommend it.
nejatarn 4 years ago
Wtf are you talking about?
drokebyt 4 years ago
"Wtf are you talking about?"... I've got some advice for you. Why don't you go fuck yourself?
nejatarn 4 years ago
nejatarn gave a very nice compliment and obviously understands many principles of the martial arts, I even like the latter response to ignorance,lol
UFMD1 4 years ago
Very Good ... I like this ....
mukeijuku 4 years ago
Very nice demo. This is very close to what I had been learning. The teacher is incredibly fast. What is his name? I'll check through the older posts to see if anyone asked that.
rhendersWLU 4 years ago
wat was the order of the animals they practiced??
jervis8784 4 years ago
Very demostraitons!1 it clears up a lot of stuff from my forms!!
silatk 4 years ago
I love how they practice avoiding a 2 mile and hour jab which wouldn't even connect had they not blocked. No understanding of "live" distance. To heck with this mystical garbage.
justinkennethmail 4 years ago
Right because when you learn techniques in BJJ they don't drill.
godzillakungfu 4 years ago
i dont understand why you said mystical garbage. it looks like fighting to me and this is teaching footage not real combat. they have to learn then apply it in sparring. thats when it wont be a 2 mile and hour jab
XZabuzaX87 4 years ago
How would you train? put on gloves and practice like any other style out there? Xing-I is very powerful, few have the b#$ to train the way it should be.
silatk 4 years ago
It's people like you who stand in range, block too soon and they smack you!! Timing is just as important as speed. Oh yeah, can't you see there are PRACTICING!
hx213 4 years ago
Exactly. He sounds like a non-martial artist, like some wanna be tough guy. A real martial artist distinguishes between obtaining the form of technique and reflex training drills. Also, timing is very key. Yet he may have a point of the uke is not aiming at you and swerves off, I have to fix underbelts with that all the time.
nejatarn 4 years ago
In addition, practicing for speed is simply idiotic. You get hit a lot, or he gets hurt, you both get shocked, stable training of the nervous system does not take place. Unless you are really really gonna clean his clock, if you wanna be "Mr.Real", then there is not much point in "going fast". I like to train "slow" I guess, but if you ever threw a real punch at me, I'd be all over you like white on rice. And I KNOW that.
nejatarn 4 years ago
I really agree with what you say about speed. I don't practice Xin Yi, even though a Chinese friend has shown me some easy moves, but I unfortunately experienced some 'real' situations. Speed or strength are really nothing (maybe some bonus...dunno), cause what matters is precision. Plus, being 'speedy' encourages panic.
sadella 3 years ago
Yeah. Speed only produces EFFECTIVE power when it is PRECISE. How can it be precise when I am flailing around? That is what most mean by speed: flailing. I'm not saying flailing can't be effective either. I'm talking about training technique as opposed to fighting technique. Each person will fight the way they must, and it will often look NOTHING like what they do in training. Anyone whose been in a real fight would know this. But, how we train is what makes our fighting effective or not
nejatarn 3 years ago
The PI form can knock the opponent out by 1 shot in the head :) By doing the form 10k times, it will come by nature, if you are really confident with one of the forms, you will hit the opponent's face by nature without thinking, you don't do the whole form :)
TRiNARYDOTiNFO 3 years ago
agreed
randyds5 3 years ago
Ooops, I meant that last one for the "tough guy", a.k.a. "Mr. Real Punch". Anyways, Xingyiquan is about internal body mechanics in harmony and timing. We also train the psychology of the attack and defense, we know how to get in there when there is an opening, and we know what a "real punch" looks like, even though dumbo up there wants to be Mr. Real. I guess all xingyiquan guys around the world should just kowtow to him as our teacher, I guess...
nejatarn 4 years ago
Yep, Hsing Yi rocks,follow it up with some Shuai Chiao throws,and you have a nice arsenal for ass whoopin(If you know how to apply it]
nifka72 4 years ago
Beautiful, prowerful and so inspiring... I'm a Hsing I Chuan student, and seeing this comforts me in my position : Hsing I Chuan über alles!
raphamundsen 4 years ago
he's good. If more chinese martial arts teachers move west. It'll put alot of 'so-called wannabe masters' out of a job soon LOL
illyong 4 years ago
awesome!
Tianshanwarrior 4 years ago
I'd like to learn this type of Chinese martial art. I take Karate but I like Chinese Kung Fu better.
HomedudePedroski 4 years ago
As usual. When taught correctly Xingyi is the most devestating martial art known. Nice. Love the way you instructed them on ostrich and rooster. Nice Job!!!!
waidanwizard 4 years ago
nice
Tianshanwarrior 4 years ago
I have a few of Gary Lams dvd and the way he applies his chi sao etc. is what is missing from Hsing I and vice versa. I'll take tequila with that salt!
wuxingwarrior 4 years ago
Funny, I take the tekila without the salt... Guess it's down to personal preference! :-) Thanks for the comment!
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Juan0003 4 years ago
Really interesting. I study Chen taiji. There's a lot of similarity, with some Paochui moves. Thanks for posting - a good reference.
richnwood2000 4 years ago
ilove this! thanks!!!
traphiccc 4 years ago
good stuff
Seanpiano 4 years ago
xin yi has beautiful fajin, but it seems to come after years of building ones rooting energy practicing the san ti posture. the practioners here have there center of balance very high, almost at the sternum and can be uprooted very easily. but they are young in the system and by young i mean probably a couple of years. good xin yi takes years to build.
thedoaofplusone 5 years ago
very young? a couple of years? even the master?
chentaichiguy 4 years ago
no the teacher looks very sharp. i thinks his center is still a little high but i think that has more to do with the province his style comes from, he also looks like xing yi isnt the only style he has taken. his postures are great but his steps arent rooted like i have seen with other practitioners, but again that may just be his style,he looks like whatever he took before was very agile and light on the feet,not that its bad,i'm just used to seeing rooting similar to chen taiji chuan.
thedoaofplusone 4 years ago
well, i am the instructor in the video. from your writting, i can see that you know xing yi a lot. but please think of two things:
1, the posture. chen tai chi people will not use low posture in application either, people will use natural posture in application.
whatisyournameya 4 years ago
what animal styles are in xingyi
paulhiggs 4 years ago
depends with what xingyi you learn some have 10 some have 12. dragon,tiger, horse, rooster, monkey, swallow, crocodile,goshawk, snake, bear eagle, tai and crane.
cubgrumpz 4 years ago
2, for the stepping, please do more researching of heibei style, i am from tianjin, the city where the most heibei masters came from(li cunyi, zhang zhaodong, xue dian, gao yisheng, liiu qilan...).this is how we practice in our city in high level. most video on internet will not show the application with this kind of step, because their application is kind of martial art rehearsal. with speed and power, this kind of step is the most applied in heibei style.
whatisyournameya 4 years ago
by the way, thank you for your comments.
whatisyournameya 4 years ago
laoshi hao
i took your advice and studied deeper into the xing yi lineage to better understand the different levels of force. i found teachings on ming jing, an jing, and hua jing. now i better understand the way and skill of your technique. i apologize if i offended you, and thank you for the lesson.
thedaoofplus1 4 years ago
wing chun and the beng chuan of xin yi are almost identical, if you actually look up sifu rudy on youtube you will see what i mean, he even does a chasing punch identical to what yip man taught.
thedoaofplusone 5 years ago
Yes. I am a WC, Hsing I, and Tai Chi person. I think WC and Hsing I need each other and compliment each other greatly. Usually most people do not agree with me as you do above. Also watch Gary Lam. He shows the true relaxed WC and you see the Hsing I connection.
wuxingwarrior 4 years ago
Yes, we go to the WC before, after and even during XingYi class! JK.
Seriously, and this is MHO only so take it with a grain of salt, XY doesn't need WC at all. XY is a whole body process where as WC is only upper torso and a lot of chasing hands. If you do watch Gary Lam's video where he Pi Quan his student, you will see a lot of chasing hands before he slams the student. That is WC. If he would have slammed the guy in the first place, it would be XY. Just my opinion.
Juan0003 4 years ago
if you watch the way bruce lee or any other yip man student does wing chun you will see the same spiralling in the hips as you see xing yi. that mixed with the practitioner pulling one hand into the centerline as the othr hand strikes puts out alot of pop. you cant even say you dont notice the pop when you see bruce lee do a straight punch, or even in his chasing punches. tru i think xing yi has more pop available to it, but that is because of the stepping pattern involved with the punching.but
thedoaofplusone 4 years ago
Actually WC does not chase hands, that is against the theory of WC. However, there are considerable trapping hands, as found in hsing i. Since I practice both arts I can tell you that Hsing I is more of a whole body system, but WC is not a upper torso style only. There are alot of WC people out there that do not understand what the art is truly suppose to be. I was lucky in the teacher that I found.
wuxingwarrior 4 years ago
many similar applications to the wing chun i learn
blahblah12367 5 years ago
im not to familiar with xing yi so excuse my ignorance but is fajing used in xing yi?
MoreChi52 5 years ago
never mind... lol
MoreChi52 5 years ago
what do you mean fajing? I only know FaJin...
What kind of Fajin(if it is fajin instead of Fajing) you are talking abot? Since the Fajin is different between styles...
For sure Xingyi use Fajin.
whatisyournameya 5 years ago