jon ronson part 12

[InSightRV]

P.S. Part 3 should read "OR WERE YOU bombarded ... "

[InSightRV]

p4/4 message to Ronson)"To me, being skeptical about remote viewing if you have not learnt how to do it, is like dismissing writing because you are illiterate. I am not currently teaching remote viewing, but do intend to as soon as circumstances allow (I'm in DIY mayhem following moving house for now) If you do want to learn (for free), I would be delighted to put your name top of my list for future courses"

JC was duped ... but by what?

With best intent

Loraine Connon

[claymoreman90]

i can say for sure that staring at goats can kill them..ive performed this numerous times..the method is to control your breathing get comfortable then concentrate..then stare for a moment.and as sure as bejaysus the goat will drop stone dead most times...once you squeeze off that. 223 ..lolol

[Budhablunt]

does this guy think he's important? he's clearly fucked in the head

[antonKASA2007]

if john worked with militaqry and main medias etc , he is involved with some people who put him do what he does as a nice man who spread the truth but still none knows the truth

[piecraft]

This man is a shill and ignorant Irrationalist, who proclaims himself to be a skeptic rationalist. His stupid biased Guardian column where he implores where is the Age of Enlightenment gone, well Jon that's because the Enlightenment was pushed by the Illuminati. He puts himself as some expert of Bilderberg because he researched them for 5 years, BUT WHAT ABOUT JIM TUCKER JON??? He's nothing more than a poster-boy for the so-called "Rationalist" camp to aid the Illuminati.

[nohandstv]

He went with Jim Tucker to the meeting in Portugal. You should check out his documentary.

[crispian2005]

ronsons series them and also the men who stare at goats was on english t.v...the programmes would never be shown on american t.v. the govenment is too parinoid ...the books and the series are great

[michael0845]

Jon Ronson is a fake.

[crispian2005]

a fake..you stupid idiot.

WAKE UP>

[lightoffuturedays]

gatekeeper? explain..

[Buckwheathonky]

You don't know what a gatekeeper is? Gatekeepers, much like the journalists in George Orwell's 1984, function to promote the official propaganda of the state. They amplify what is not credible while excluding the voices that challenge the government's lies. Ronson does not address facts. He ignores what is credible. Ronson only addresses the ludicrous. Ronson promotes himself as someone who is working against the establishment, but he only muddies the water.

[lightoffuturedays]

good point, well made and thanks for backing up your statement, your input is welcomed. I don't personally disagree with you, I originally uploaded this interview because I thought it was interesting and that other people might want to hear it.. I've certainly learned a lot about Jon Ronson as a result, and what's the deal with Art Bell/George Noory et al. are these guys 'gatekeepers' too?

[Scotty1137]

"Polluting the well is another" is another term used by the powers that be. These people are highly trained for these positions. Usually high IQs and most likely working for the bad guy, wittingly or unwittingly.

[Buckwheathonky]

Jon Ronson is not concerned with TRUTH. He is concerned with MONEY and TITILLATION. He is a gatekeeper.

[bodnotbod]

Thanks for uploading that whole radio show. I'm a big Ronson fan and have Read THEM a few times, mainly for laughs than for hardcore issues. I truly trust Ronson to give an honest account from his perspective. When journalists inte3rview there is always the possibility his subjects will not like the stance the journalist takes.

[HurricaneHeidi]

Jon Ronson has grievously mischaracterized the First Earth Battalion concepts of my first cousin, Lt. Col. (ret) Jim Channon. Go to my channel here on youtube and watch Jim Channon's videos, which I personally taped and uploaded here last year. Jim conceived the First Earth Battalion as a WORLD WIDE cooperative force intended to foster not only non-lethal combat, but world wide efforts to derail warfare and to substitute Peace MAKING activities rather than Peace Keeping.

[HurricaneHeidi]

The experimental labs responsible for the staring at goats experiment, (if indeed that ever happened), were NOT part of the First Earth Battalion. Jim Channon's concept was NOT adopted by the US Army, although they did "run" with some of his concepts of non-lethal warfare. Jim Channon would NEVER have condoned attempts to kill goats by staring at them. EVERYTHING about Jim Channon is focused upon preserving, protecting and enhancing LIFE and PEACE on a world wide scale.

[HurricaneHeidi]

Jon Ronson took advantage of my cousin Jim's trust and hospitality, and received a personal tour of Jim's home and property in Hawaii. He then proceeded to put his own personal spin on Jim channon and his life's work in order to make a profit selling his bullshit book. I consider Jon Ronson to be a proverbial "snake in the grass", and a blatantly profiteering spinmeister.

[lightoffuturedays]

Hello Hurricane Heidi! Thanks for the comments, I took the opportunity to familiarise myself with your Jim Channon posts, I also checked out his website(s) and some, though not all, of the first earth battalion literature that exists on the net. I'm not personally acquainted with Jim Channon or Jon Ronson and it isn't really my job to defend or justify the work/views of either. There are opinions and ideas expressed by both sides that ring true with me..

[HurricaneHeidi]

I certainly appreciate the fact that you cared enough to take the time to follow up about Jim Channon and his First Earth Battalion concepts. And thank you for this video post, too - it offered me a forum in which to stand up for Jim. Namaste.

[MsgtSpook]

"and a blatantly profiteering spinmeister"

While there's little doubt that Ronson mucked about and confused some of the 1st Earth Bn crap with other equally whacked-out fluff, somehow it seems highly appropriate for someone to spin and profit off of Channon's ludicrous B.S.

He always was the laughingstock of the War College and the Army Staff, but he seems to have found a ready market for that narcissistic puffery he pimps.

P.T. Barnum was ever so right.

[HurricaneHeidi]

"Consider the source" is always an apt suggestion. After checking out your youtube channel and observing your selection of "favorites" (vids extolling pit bulls and souped-up cars) I can see why Jim Channon's visionary ideas about peace making, non-lethal combat, and caring for our planetary environment would be lost on the likes of you. Jim Channon is still invited back to speak to the military on a regular basis... which would never happen if he were a "laughing stock". And they PAY him.

[InSightRV]

@HurricaneHeidi Thanks for your (local) comments confirming my (non-local) feelings about Jon Ronson's integrity and motivation. After seeing his film I sent him the following message ... No reply

(in parts from 11/09)

1."I am dismayed to see you are portrayed in the media as being

unconvinced of the validity of remote viewing. How can this be? It's obvious to me that you are sufficiently open minded and curious to remote view readily. Did any of the viewers you met offer you free training?

[InSightRV]

2. "Did any of them bother to tell you that anyone can remote

view (so long as they can write) and that it's extremely easy to learn?

(eg I taught my children the basics in just 4 sessions when they were

aged 9 and 13) If not, shame on them for wasting the opportunity to

teach an influential commentator.

Are you aware that because proven scientific theory of remote viewing still eludes researchers, it is much easier to understand and practice remote viewing as a new linguistic skill?" ....cont.

[InSightRV]

3. bombarded with competing, contradictory and inevitably half baked explanations which simply did not ring fully true for you? Thinking of remote viewing in terms of language neatly side steps most of the tenacious belief issues that deter the mind from recognising the reality of this universal ability. Language, unlike psi or science, is within our shared human comfort zone. As you know, we all unquestioningly accept our ability to write and convey intellectually realised information." ..cont.

[lightoffuturedays]

search for 'Secret Rulers of the world' on you tube and 'Ruby Ridge Documentary' on google video. 'David Icke, The Lizards and the Jews' was also part of the same series.. as yet can't find 'The Satanic Shadowy Elite?' which includes Ronson's take on the Bohemian Grove incident..

[starrynightuk]

I think the Shadowy Elite one used to on but go deleted! :-o

[polstar242]

I've enjoyed listening to these - Jon Ronson is a fantastic journalist who never hides that fact that, as lightofffuturedays says, he is a HUMOUROUS journalist. That said, I have no doubt he went to Bohemian Grove.

[starrynightuk]

me too, but having seen the documentary where he doesn't mention going in there himself I was surprised to read in Them that he did.

[lightoffuturedays]

ok..fair point.Ronson,by his own admission,is a slightly left of centre mainstream humourist journalist.He does a reasonable job of introducing these potentially difficult subjects to people who,perhaps,have not been exposed to them before.Remember his channel 4 show 'for the love of'? Let's face it..pretty much every writer,journalist or broadcaster even vaguely connected to the so-called conspiracy field will be called a shill, a sell out or a disinformation agent at one point or another..

[muckletoon]

Ronson is a sell out shit.

[lightoffuturedays]

who's he sold out to?

[muckletoon]

There is not a shred of evidence he went in to Bohemian Grove with Alex Jones, nothing.