i liked tony hawk games becouse the crazy manouvers like beaver blast (you fart)and the jokes and jackass references now that it got realistic.....well it just lost the magic of it u know
Tip, just like when running use the balls of your feet, that's all this is down to, trust me, you need to be further back on the board (width ways, not length ways) so you can control yourself, I know the pain of riding a skateboard wrong because lots of people (myself included) will land a skateboard with our feet the same way you are having yours there and won't be able to do any tricks till we adjust back to the easily controlled position of standing on the balls of our feet.
i hateee tony hawk! :( fuckin 10 meters high ollies an fuckin un real flips/trcicks that full game is full of shit!! fuck that kind of game suck ! but i like skate games ! xDD lol ... xd
"So if I had to give this game a number rating, it would be somewhere between a ham sandwhich and a kick in the head. L-leaning-leaning towards the ham sandwhich."-CGR
I found this game at a Big Lots store for only $20.00 (New w/ board) for the Wii. Almost bought it, but they also had DJ Hero for the same price and I figured I would be less likely to get hurt playing DJ Hero!!
They Should Make A Tony Hawk Game That Comes With An Accesory That U Can Set To Either"Steps Or Skateboard"And Challenge Friends So Who Would Choose This Message Me ANd Tell Me If They Should ANd Tell Me If They Do!
the next game should rip a page from skate at the same time keep all the crazy and rediculous tendancies that were from the good old days. NO GAY SKATEBOARD CONTROLLER AND NO 1 GIANT LEVEL!!!!!!!!!!!! those things ruined the series! I wanna do tricks with the joysticks at the same time time I wanna shoot waterballoons at ppl while playing as spiderman. u kno wat???? the next game should be tony hawk's underground 3. nuff saaid
Why does it have to be realistic? The most important thing is that you enjoy the game, but all realistic fags keep whining, this is a great game you just don't see it since you're to obsessed with the graphics and textures....
Like 40% of the tricks on here are impossible! There no damn way you can pull of a stunt like on 2:30. He like stopped mid-air to do that trick. How the fuuuu....
Actually, Neversoft never even touched that shit. It was Robomodo, which was the genius company that decided to make a sequel to this bullshit. I actually had a Game Design teacher who was lead designer of this game! No lie. I feel sorry for him.
i rather just stick to my skate 3 and skate for real with actual wooden board then playing with a retarded shape board that you cant even do a fuckin kickflip on -_-
wanna be famous? do u want to handle with celebrities? u wanna get workout ? u wanna stop sit only home with your console? .... buy a real skateboard.
i got it for wii and it sucked i could not get to play it because it will not calibrate so i got my 90 dollars back.one of the worst tony hawk games ativision made
I always wondered... Could you somehow use this as an actual snowboard? Like... modifying it somehow to hold your feet in place, and using it to snowboard?
this games physic's suck dicks, c'mon guys seriously the character always pulls off a huge ollie and goes through people walls and somehow does some sort of double jump in the air WTF?(and T-Mobile WTH?)
this games physic's suck dicks, c'mon guys seriously the character always pulls off a huge ollie and goes through people walls and somehow does some sort of double jump in the air WTF?
it looks good but the only thing i dont like the look of is them stupid fucking lights that come of the person. y have they put that in it just makes it look gay!
Wow I didn't know this thing was exclusively played with the controller, that's a bit of ripoff isn't it. I remember some on the previous gen consoles were really nice too, but yeah this board is what I expected. Lagged input and make-believe.
I own most of the Tony Hawk games, but I never bothered with Tony Hawk: Ride or Tony Hawk: Shred, since there's no option to use a standard controller for them. I can't really skateboard.
@UltraRyleyMan heh.That what a kid that doesnt know what a revolutionary game is.Tony Hawk Pro Skater and Pro Skater 2 are Obviously the best Skating Games for the PS1 and N64.They were the first ones,first ones to use the manual,first one to use professional Skaters.Theres MORE skating Games before them(Thats what i think anyways) ,but out of all of them Tony Hawk Pro Skater 1 and 2 are the best skating games. You and all the others that think that SKATE series is better can go suck it.
I think Tony Hawk Ride was a ripoff, they dont have anymore games to buy for that board! now they come up with a new board for tony hawk shred,thats senceless want people to keep buying all those different boards just for one game,they should make multiple games for a board not just one game per board that is such a ripoff.those WII attachments should have more than one game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cool but it looks like a good winter game you know when you get home and you want to go outside but its to cold this would be great to play when that happens and also somebody tell me do you thinks its worth it to trade in cod waw and couple other games for this on 360
well... if i got this then i would probably be really good at it being that i actually skateboard and im good at it. :). but at the same time. why the heck would they not allow you to use a 360 controller??? :O. thats just stupid. they would get a much better rating if they did that one thing.
Yeah. The port of the 1st game wasn't that bad with the instrumentals and the cleverly placed verses. The way they did it on the other 2 were awful. Verses repeated immediately after each other, the beginning of the song was played multiple times, just, uggh...
say Mike Hawk
BrandonLink2014 1 week ago
u use it with a contoller which is nice
jaspersrobot 4 weeks ago
dude dont do this do skate 3
jaspersrobot 4 weeks ago
that board would look good in my trash bin!
randomenvelope 1 month ago
like this if you think they should make a ripstick version of thride
ventuskh93 1 month ago
very good vid , i buy it too. i have shred and this is shit
Intervention5101 1 month ago
no one likes it its rubbish game!!
MrRock9620 1 month ago
oh peter your such a klutz
ZManofAwesome1 1 month ago
3:00 wpadł w kartony nie żyje :(
gork00009 1 month ago
i liked tony hawk games becouse the crazy manouvers like beaver blast (you fart)and the jokes and jackass references now that it got realistic.....well it just lost the magic of it u know
blazer1785 2 months ago
Tip, just like when running use the balls of your feet, that's all this is down to, trust me, you need to be further back on the board (width ways, not length ways) so you can control yourself, I know the pain of riding a skateboard wrong because lots of people (myself included) will land a skateboard with our feet the same way you are having yours there and won't be able to do any tricks till we adjust back to the easily controlled position of standing on the balls of our feet.
MaxRavelle 2 months ago
i hateee tony hawk! :( fuckin 10 meters high ollies an fuckin un real flips/trcicks that full game is full of shit!! fuck that kind of game suck ! but i like skate games ! xDD lol ... xd
colasakke9 2 months ago
is there a freeplay mode?
jinxkid00 3 months ago
who the fuck lives in a vulcano???
derFaetzKanal 3 months ago
loool i'll better buy ea skate...
darkseer100 3 months ago
Seth Rogan isnt a very good skater...
lazyjib10 4 months ago
pff this shit meant to be skateboarding?
berfu91 4 months ago
cleaning the cube was a good moive
tyler110897 4 months ago
@tyler110897 You mean Gleaming the Cube? XD
SiGhast 3 months ago
SKATE IS BETTER . THUMBS UP IF U AGREE
kacpirus 4 months ago
3:57 ahh crappy game physics. . . we meet again. . .
doodadamlol 5 months ago
this game probobly isnt for people who dont skate cause i mean it will be hard to do stuff on it it was reallt meant to show what skateboarding is
turtoise87 5 months ago
you suck so bad you cood not even ride a reel skatebord
RokkinSkinnyzLCB 5 months ago
i cant even get it to connect to my board
EpicZeldaWin 5 months ago
Thumbs up for Pro Skater 4!
BurgerwithFries1 5 months ago
@BurgerwithFries1 Pro Skater 4 came out long ago! Shows what you know about tony hawk games!
TheToastyWaffles 5 months ago
Back in my day we would take our skatebouard, go out and actually skate.
bournefan97 5 months ago 50
skate is better
Snoozer97 5 months ago
i suck at this too
kidsteal 5 months ago
this game has no depth
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Elevendy5Productions 6 months ago
Mark, given you can't skate, but like skate board games (like me) have you reviewed any of the Skate series?
psychofunksoldier02 6 months ago
gleaming the cube was an awesome movie this game wasn't
isegul1 6 months ago
skate is the best skateboarding game im du talking
Mw2BULLDOG 6 months ago
I LIKE THE SQUIRREL AT THE BEGINNING ;)
RobinMaster555 6 months ago
This game is cool, but it's NOTHING compared to Skate 3.. That's a REAL skateboarding game...
oriikpa2812 6 months ago
Haaaa let me fuckin smile... Seriously if anyone would want a real simulation, why not just buying a real skate, this skate looks ugly...
Seriously Tony Hawks marked my generation back then, TH3 4 ever, nowadays SKATE is lot better...
guily6669 6 months ago
i think this looks awesome regardless of mediocre reviews, IM GONNA BUY IT!!
Superblamblamman 6 months ago
Skate 3 is better :/ I do like the fact it has the skateboard controller though
Bloopersdude1 7 months ago
Skate 3 is better :/
Bloopersdude1 7 months ago
you dont suck at that game
carlosmonte500 7 months ago
try skating goofy to balance thats what i do
OpsRespawn 7 months ago
they need to make another undergrund
hamish124 7 months ago
@hamish124 Yea, thats really all they would need to do. I think it sucks they didnt just go back to the old controls and old gameplay
ThatIndianGuy7116 7 months ago
@hamish124 they did lol, its called underground 2. American Wasteland was also pretty much the exact same thing.
Juggler1711 6 months ago
so...this is what lead to the decline of tony hawk
MarioFagKiller1 7 months ago
SO this reviewer is saying its good or bad?
mdrivera77 7 months ago
@mdrivera77 He never really says a game is bad, but this game is AWFUL.
patriotrower 6 months ago
Dustin Dollin sounds like a stoner.
billyjoeface 7 months ago
I play it and I give it 9.7
TheCoolguyguyguy 7 months ago
I found this game at a Big Lots store for only $20.00 (New w/ board) for the Wii. Almost bought it, but they also had DJ Hero for the same price and I figured I would be less likely to get hurt playing DJ Hero!!
Looks like fun, but hard.
superdave7498 7 months ago
I like the review I dislike the game lol
birdengames 8 months ago
why is this so bad it looks fun
MidMuffin 8 months ago
Activision, the only company that can afford to put out utter crap like this and not go bankrupt.
wrongfire 8 months ago
Are you seriously not allowed to play with the gamepad? NO WONDER EVERYONE HATES THIS GAME!
PretentiousTwat 8 months ago 40
@PretentiousTwat Because they can't skate!
TagstaNation 2 months ago
@PretentiousTwat i wish i could play it with a POWER PAD lol
avgnfan26 4 weeks ago
its called skate 3 go buy it if u want to play wit a controller
eddiemacdaddie 3 weeks ago
a fifteen minute ad?!?
darkryu38 8 months ago
They Should Make A Tony Hawk Game That Comes With An Accesory That U Can Set To Either"Steps Or Skateboard"And Challenge Friends So Who Would Choose This Message Me ANd Tell Me If They Should ANd Tell Me If They Do!
leonkennedy1235 8 months ago
This is the worst thing I ever bought, such a waste of money. I regret it soooooooo much.
GThrasher128 8 months ago
Skate 3 is better PERÍODO
peecetelo3 8 months ago
Tony Hawk is dead now, it's Skate 3 R.I.P Tony Hawk
ThePi987654321 9 months ago
the next game should rip a page from skate at the same time keep all the crazy and rediculous tendancies that were from the good old days. NO GAY SKATEBOARD CONTROLLER AND NO 1 GIANT LEVEL!!!!!!!!!!!! those things ruined the series! I wanna do tricks with the joysticks at the same time time I wanna shoot waterballoons at ppl while playing as spiderman. u kno wat???? the next game should be tony hawk's underground 3. nuff saaid
killerdemon562 9 months ago
I cannot believe they got funding for this garbage. The game makes you follow a path?! Thats utter bullshit.
wrongfire 9 months ago
@wrongfire only on easy mode
petplatypus 9 months ago
does a ripstick count?
SuperLeft4deadman 10 months ago
Wii = 8 year old playful kid who loves having fun
PS3 = 21 year old hard core emo guy
360 = 16 year old skater boy who hates ps3.
tbrew222 10 months ago
@tbrew222
I'm not emo lol
WhiteFangOfTheLeaf 10 months ago
@tbrew222 I'm not a skater and I don't hate PS3
TheAssassinPenguin 10 months ago
@TheAssassinPenguin I'm not saying thats what the people are like who play 360...im describing what each system would be like if it was a human...
tbrew222 10 months ago
@tbrew222 thats the stupidest thing I've ever heard
petplatypus 9 months ago
@petplatypus ur the stupidest thing i've ever heard....lol.
tbrew222 9 months ago
@tbrew222 im not eight
melgibsonsballs 5 months ago
@melgibsonsballs ....>=( DID EVER SAY YOU WERE EIGHT?
tbrew222 5 months ago
Skate is way better than this.
ryan88485 10 months ago
I have this game on wii and its awesome!!!! it should be on the top ten wii games of 09
DrGSouth 10 months ago
thumps up if u lold at him almost falling down the skate board
die239 10 months ago
Why does it have to be realistic? The most important thing is that you enjoy the game, but all realistic fags keep whining, this is a great game you just don't see it since you're to obsessed with the graphics and textures....
UniversalTechVids 10 months ago
Like 40% of the tricks on here are impossible! There no damn way you can pull of a stunt like on 2:30. He like stopped mid-air to do that trick. How the fuuuu....
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aaeptaijiquanq3s 11 months ago 20
That looks suuuuuuuuper fuuuuuuuuuuuun. Too bad I dont have the PS3, XBOX360 or Wii... :(
Lauriic54 11 months ago
@Lauriic54 :( you poor soul...
TheOrangeDart 11 months ago
Geez, I remember the Rolling Rocker, and I think THAT was worse!
jakethesnake1320 11 months ago
I think I will stick with my copy of THPS 1 and 2 for PS1.....thanks....
jmartin1087 11 months ago
you have friends?
mouseverde1 11 months ago
lol looks like me playing skate it on a balence board
but i think ill stick to the THUG games like the guy below
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xX2SKATERDUDE1Xx 11 months ago
I'll stick to THUG 1 AND 2
elementsk8ter3 11 months ago
lol over-acting FTW
fumamonourequiem 1 year ago
4:03 , slo-mo fail
rockerzac99 1 year ago
(In the the Tony hawk headquarters)
''Tony Hawk ride was a miserable failure''
''I know! Lets put all our budget into another shitty ride game and call it Shred''
''Amazing Idea! Lets do it!'' 0_O
undisputed4life 1 year ago 50
@undisputed4life
Actually, Neversoft never even touched that shit. It was Robomodo, which was the genius company that decided to make a sequel to this bullshit. I actually had a Game Design teacher who was lead designer of this game! No lie. I feel sorry for him.
Foodperson 6 months ago
@undisputed4life aw crap i bought shred but i have faith that it will be fun
TheBieberHater1000 4 months ago
its so frustrating when they call a lateflip a kickflip or a heelflip or whatever :P
kenickity 1 year ago
i'll stick to proving ground :L
MultiMatius 1 year ago
i can chew gum
Solostudios1949 1 year ago
i rather just stick to my skate 3 and skate for real with actual wooden board then playing with a retarded shape board that you cant even do a fuckin kickflip on -_-
sebagonewild 1 year ago
wanna be famous? do u want to handle with celebrities? u wanna get workout ? u wanna stop sit only home with your console? .... buy a real skateboard.
ConverseKai 1 year ago
wanna be famous? do u want to handle with celebrities? u wanna stop sit only home with your console? .... buy a real skateboard.
ConverseKai 1 year ago
Wait... if the board ran out of batteries, don't you think Stella played it? AKA The cute dog who plays video games when no one is looking :)
MasterOfPuppets4080 1 year ago
Iv yet to here one good work about this game
airmax36fp 1 year ago
i got it for wii and it sucked i could not get to play it because it will not calibrate so i got my 90 dollars back.one of the worst tony hawk games ativision made
skullring1968 1 year ago
Man, Activision is desperate to beat EA's Skate Series.
DaManiac878 1 year ago
just got the game
007mrfrank 1 year ago
I always wondered... Could you somehow use this as an actual snowboard? Like... modifying it somehow to hold your feet in place, and using it to snowboard?
Looks to heavy for that though...
QWERTYCommander 1 year ago
this games physic's suck dicks, c'mon guys seriously the character always pulls off a huge ollie and goes through people walls and somehow does some sort of double jump in the air WTF?(and T-Mobile WTH?)
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gavril08 1 year ago
i like more shaun white
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PHgamer12 1 year ago
baught this game on wii like about a year ago and havent played it since then :P
mehdilaptop 1 year ago
no bord connected lol
mehdilaptop 1 year ago
2:07 hahahahahaha
arup02 1 year ago
ill stick with skate
WolfOfLightShadow30 1 year ago
it looks good but the only thing i dont like the look of is them stupid fucking lights that come of the person. y have they put that in it just makes it look gay!
tommister98 1 year ago
review tony hawk shred perferably wii version
Brandonapprove 1 year ago
i got this game but returned it caused it sucked
joshscar7 1 year ago
@joshscar7 Get shred its sooooo much better
jdr22114 1 year ago
id stick with Tony Hawk Underground
THEmomsqaud2 1 year ago
cool concept, horrible controls.
ballindude22 1 year ago
Ride or Shred?
970665 1 year ago
@970665 Ride is the old version Shred is new on Shred the board work better
sonicx620 1 year ago
@970665 Ride is the old version Shred is new on Shred the board work better Peace!
sonicx620 1 year ago
@970665 and shred has a snowbord mode
sonicx620 1 year ago
lemma guess theres a weight limit? lol
Froob1013 1 year ago
@ deadturtleproduction uh uh... pro skater 2 for the DREAMCAST
isabelbhernandez 1 year ago
@sozati79 i agree i just like this cause of board
Capcomfresh 1 year ago
Wow I didn't know this thing was exclusively played with the controller, that's a bit of ripoff isn't it. I remember some on the previous gen consoles were really nice too, but yeah this board is what I expected. Lagged input and make-believe.
xyanide1986 1 year ago
i wonder if you accualy did a tre flip on the board that if in the gme it would do a crazy ninja-assrape-chuck norris flip
skatescirca 1 year ago
I own most of the Tony Hawk games, but I never bothered with Tony Hawk: Ride or Tony Hawk: Shred, since there's no option to use a standard controller for them. I can't really skateboard.
NeoKokoro20 1 year ago
@NeoKokoro20 lol it's not like using a real board
jknproductions9900 1 year ago
Anyone who bought this game thinking it would be good deserved it.
passiveMenis 1 year ago 51
@passiveMenis thanks but i ended up trading in my wii for ps3 move i basically did it because ridewas no use to me
shockwaveape 9 months ago
I hope you didnt hurt youself in making this review! ;P
TheWonderingMan 1 year ago
crack you got 2 skatebord controllers!
sowacaster 1 year ago
i think this game looks awesome, why is the board so hard to stand on? the weight maybe or how it's shaped?
xninjagrrl 1 year ago
THIS GAMES IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN A REAL SKATEBOARD AND I RATHER BUY A REAL ONE AND LEARN IT THAN PLAYING THIS GAME
jraspacio 1 year ago
this game sucks so much dick i have it and it is completely horrible exuse for a game dont get it
kornsabbath666 1 year ago
does this guy sound like seth roghan or wat?
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Is It Grip Tape On The Board??
LOLFACE988 1 year ago
Is It Grip Tape ON The Board?
LOLFACE988 1 year ago
i like the new skate games also but TH pro skater 1 was amazing
13StJimmy 1 year ago
i wanna try it so bad
13StJimmy 1 year ago
haha i love this game
AdamLambertFreak2010 1 year ago
SKATE 3 FTW!!!
LynxCoding 1 year ago 2
@ChickenMinger111, i totally agree with you man skate 1,2, and three are the best skateboarding games in the world!!
UltraRyleyMan 1 year ago
@UltraRyleyMan heh.That what a kid that doesnt know what a revolutionary game is.Tony Hawk Pro Skater and Pro Skater 2 are Obviously the best Skating Games for the PS1 and N64.They were the first ones,first ones to use the manual,first one to use professional Skaters.Theres MORE skating Games before them(Thats what i think anyways) ,but out of all of them Tony Hawk Pro Skater 1 and 2 are the best skating games. You and all the others that think that SKATE series is better can go suck it.
blackcry22 1 year ago
skate 3 beats this game easy and all the other tony hawk games!!!
ChickenMinger111 1 year ago 2
for me the best it the series was thps3 and thug1!!
DaRkLoRd1061 1 year ago
what sucks is that they're making a SEQUEL to this piece of crap game.
KeyOfReason001 1 year ago
I think Tony Hawk Ride was a ripoff, they dont have anymore games to buy for that board! now they come up with a new board for tony hawk shred,thats senceless want people to keep buying all those different boards just for one game,they should make multiple games for a board not just one game per board that is such a ripoff.those WII attachments should have more than one game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
19761999able 1 year ago
what wud happen if u formed an actual kickflip? o.o
wud he do the kickflip?
nautyhottie2 1 year ago
i hate buffering
verace18 1 year ago
man...what did they do to it??? ):
50SuperMario 1 year ago
cool but it looks like a good winter game you know when you get home and you want to go outside but its to cold this would be great to play when that happens and also somebody tell me do you thinks its worth it to trade in cod waw and couple other games for this on 360
3oh97 1 year ago
@3oh97 Not really, trade all of those games in for a Nintendo DS
NintendoDSVampire 1 year ago
That sucks 'cause I live in a volcano
sgurica 1 year ago
well... if i got this then i would probably be really good at it being that i actually skateboard and im good at it. :). but at the same time. why the heck would they not allow you to use a 360 controller??? :O. thats just stupid. they would get a much better rating if they did that one thing.
neoman121 1 year ago
I'll stick with pro skater 2 for N64.
deadturtleproduction 1 year ago 74
@deadturtleproduction ha i got the first one for N64
greatballzoffire1990 1 year ago
^5 man!
CaptainPommby 1 year ago
@deadturtleproduction SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCH a good game...
YoshimitsuBloodPedal 1 year ago
@deadturtleproduction Yes, THPS 2. Awesome game. Still my favorite of all of them, I'd say. I only played it on Dreamcast.
Ripplin 1 year ago
@deadturtleproduction I suggest you upgrade to the Dreamcast version, it beats the pants off the Vaseline Vision N64.
neogeon 1 year ago
@neogeon
And the broken record music.
QWERTYCommander 1 year ago
@QWERTYCommander oh yeah, those "remixes" to fit the cartridge limitations were AWFUL.
neogeon 1 year ago
@neogeon
Yeah. The port of the 1st game wasn't that bad with the instrumentals and the cleverly placed verses. The way they did it on the other 2 were awful. Verses repeated immediately after each other, the beginning of the song was played multiple times, just, uggh...
/rant
QWERTYCommander 1 year ago
Skate series For The Win
syke8433 1 year ago 3
@syke8433 please say ftw you nerd
guillerminoochoa999 1 year ago
@guillerminoochoa999 Great, another asshole who has nothing better to do than to pick on random people. GET A LIFE!!!
syke8433 1 year ago
@syke8433 i dont pick random people , just fucked up people
guillerminoochoa999 1 year ago
@guillerminoochoa999 Yes, i'm fucked up because I have a life. Right?
syke8433 1 year ago
@guillerminoochoa999 so, all of the sudden, being able to actually spell three words is fucked up?
deadturtleproduction 1 year ago
@guillerminoochoa999 lol not saying ftw with 3 letters is nerdy XD what has this world come to
sickdog2010 1 year ago
@sickdog2010 im with you man!
guillerminoochoa999 1 year ago
tony hawk fall lol
inmateno12897 1 year ago
ingame advertising ? bah
MarijnStevens 1 year ago
Tony Hawk games got crappy since Neversoft stopped developing them.
bozwell1232 1 year ago
"How do you wash down one bad game with another?, Tony Hawk: Shred"
xDanielx2016 1 year ago
Prod!
hongdekong 1 year ago
i pick this up of ebay for £22 that with the skatebord and game
tuliotony 1 year ago