Why is the 33rd beat so short always - you were doing the swung 8ths and that fell on a strong beat right? So why didn't it at least get a longer 8th and then start with another long 8th back at 1? I actually came by this on accident and haven't seen the video that this is responding to, I'll go see if that clears it up
Haven't read other comments but the part that disturbs me is how clipped the 33rd 8th is in the demo. In swung 8ths the odd numbers should be the longer ones rather than clipping 33. But this poses an issue, there's no 34 to bring us to another long 8th for 1. So maybe lengths are reversed every other measure, otherwise we're losing a third of a triplet in every measure.
33 is an odd number, and every number has it's expression. i think this particular thing is counting in higher intervols(spelling?) which is interesting. . . i can do 35 counts with the 7/5 but never tried the 33 ,man.you could however easily achice the affect by playing 11 measures of 3. anyway cool beans keep rocking, later
You CAN'T count it in eleven triplets. It is 33/8 with swing eighths, so you can't group them in 3 swing eighths. It would just get really weird.
If this had an even number of eighth notes, I would say it's okay to call it by the eighth note amount, with swing eighth notes. But, it's odd, so you can't technically swing the last bar, which would be 5/8. The actual count of beats for the "swing" 5/8 measure is 7/8, so that's why I don't like to call this 33/8. It's technically incorrect.
@barcanard Technically wouldn't 5/8 with "swing" notes be like 7/12? Where a '12th note' is a triplet eighth note?
As in
1 - - 4 - - 7 (each - is a triplet note), would be the same as:
1 - 23 - 45 (every two eighth notes equals 3 triplet eighth notes, so wouldn't 8 eighth notes be twelve triplet notes)? I know there's really no such thing as 7/12, but there are 7 lots of notes in a bar, where each of the notes is one twelfth of a standard measure (or 4/4), so you could call it 7/12.
@theultimatekoopa2 Yes, well, check out my video description. I basically say that. But I call the last bar 7/8, whereas the previous bars are 12/8 and 9/8, all grouped in 3's. And the last one is seven eighth notes, not swing style. Does that make sense?
@theultimatekoopa2 There's two ways to write what you're talking about, either 4/4 with triplets or 12/8 with 4 sets of 8th notes beamed in 3's. A triplet by its very nature TELLS the player that the beat is split into 3 equal notes, so a beat split into 3 pieces can not then have those pieces also be called the beat.
@vipersdragband There are 12 triplet-quavers in a 4/4 measure, thus it could be called a 12th note. There may be 12 8th notes in a 12/8 measure, but they are still 8th notes. If there's a whole number of notes (n) in a bar of 4/4, then it could be thought of as an "nth" note. A triplet minim could be a 3rd note, since it's 1/3 of a measure. Hence why a quarter note is 1/4 of a measure.... a measure being 4/4.
@theultimatekoopa2 Well, you "could" call a dog a cat as well if you really wished :-) You "could" do lots of things, that doesn't make it correct when discussing music notation. Its a common error for people to think that notation was developed at the same time as music, but notation is a relatively recent thing and not always logical like some kind of science. Just like in 6/8 time almost no one actually feels the 8th notes as beats, the dotted quarter is more often felt as the beat.
@vipersdragband I know it's not correct, but calling a note of which there are twelve in a 4/4 bar, a "twelfth note", because a note of which there are eight is called an "eighth note" makes more sense than calling a cat a dog.
Structure of 33/8 is correct. Sure, it's better to say 7/4 plus 7/4 plus 5/8, but it's just cooler to say 33/8. After all, 33's a bigger number.
It's easier to imagine it if you picture the bars of 7/4 as just straight-ahead bars of 7/4 like most jazz musicians play it (4/4 plus 3/4). And the bar of 5/8 doesn't really swing... it's nearly impossible to swing 5/8! Just count to five... it's easier.
Why is the 33rd beat so short always - you were doing the swung 8ths and that fell on a strong beat right? So why didn't it at least get a longer 8th and then start with another long 8th back at 1? I actually came by this on accident and haven't seen the video that this is responding to, I'll go see if that clears it up
Maddie01022 2 months ago
Haven't read other comments but the part that disturbs me is how clipped the 33rd 8th is in the demo. In swung 8ths the odd numbers should be the longer ones rather than clipping 33. But this poses an issue, there's no 34 to bring us to another long 8th for 1. So maybe lengths are reversed every other measure, otherwise we're losing a third of a triplet in every measure.
ABarbershopBarber 2 months ago
@ABarbershopBarber dude just read your comment having already just posted mine and we're on the same page
Maddie01022 2 months ago
You should learn how to synch something, but interesting anyway. LEARN TO SYNCHRONIZE
Figgyinchains 5 months ago
Thank you for clearing that sht up...
MrIsaacDB 6 months ago
33 is an odd number, and every number has it's expression. i think this particular thing is counting in higher intervols(spelling?) which is interesting. . . i can do 35 counts with the 7/5 but never tried the 33 ,man.you could however easily achice the affect by playing 11 measures of 3. anyway cool beans keep rocking, later
scorpian8king 6 months ago
R.I.P. Jonathan. I'm gonna miss you so much. I'll see you again soon in heaven.........Love always.......Gentry
gentrysnavat 9 months ago
It's just a playful title. It's just for fun. Don't take it so seriously.
bgreen97 11 months ago
you're a douche.
schaffee89 1 year ago 7
@schaffee89 thanks
barcanard 1 year ago
@barcanard hey no problem buddy. Wish i could understand and actually count that.
schaffee89 1 year ago
@barcanard hey no problem buddy! Wish i could understand and actually count that.
schaffee89 1 year ago
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@barcanard hey no problem buddy. Wish i could understand and actually count that.
schaffee89 1 year ago
@barcanard - ignore the Gentry goon, just a Troll
soeffingwhat 10 months ago
@soeffingwhat He's actually a friend of mine that found this page, he's just messing with me, lol Thanks for the comment though!
barcanard 10 months ago
@barcanard - ah understood, thanks for that and my opologies to gentrysnavat for the misunderstanding :-D
soeffingwhat 10 months ago
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gentrysnavat 1 year ago
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gentrysnavat 1 year ago
@gentrysnavat shut up gentry
barcanard 1 year ago
@gentrysnavat Fucking gentry!
killamonkey 1 year ago
You're very right. It's better to think of it as a compound kind of odd time sig, rather than count 33 eighth notes lol.
Lahed92801 1 year ago
Just count it in 11 triplets. You're making it more complicated then it has to be.
solodude7293 2 years ago
You CAN'T count it in eleven triplets. It is 33/8 with swing eighths, so you can't group them in 3 swing eighths. It would just get really weird.
If this had an even number of eighth notes, I would say it's okay to call it by the eighth note amount, with swing eighth notes. But, it's odd, so you can't technically swing the last bar, which would be 5/8. The actual count of beats for the "swing" 5/8 measure is 7/8, so that's why I don't like to call this 33/8. It's technically incorrect.
barcanard 2 years ago 5
@barcanard Technically wouldn't 5/8 with "swing" notes be like 7/12? Where a '12th note' is a triplet eighth note?
As in
1 - - 4 - - 7 (each - is a triplet note), would be the same as:
1 - 23 - 45 (every two eighth notes equals 3 triplet eighth notes, so wouldn't 8 eighth notes be twelve triplet notes)? I know there's really no such thing as 7/12, but there are 7 lots of notes in a bar, where each of the notes is one twelfth of a standard measure (or 4/4), so you could call it 7/12.
theultimatekoopa2 1 year ago
@theultimatekoopa2 Yes, well, check out my video description. I basically say that. But I call the last bar 7/8, whereas the previous bars are 12/8 and 9/8, all grouped in 3's. And the last one is seven eighth notes, not swing style. Does that make sense?
barcanard 1 year ago
@theultimatekoopa2 There is no note called a 12th note...
vipersdragband 9 months ago
@vipersdragband Not literally, but mathematically speaking a triplet quaver is like a 12th note since there are 12 in a standard 4/4 measure.
theultimatekoopa2 9 months ago
@theultimatekoopa2 There's two ways to write what you're talking about, either 4/4 with triplets or 12/8 with 4 sets of 8th notes beamed in 3's. A triplet by its very nature TELLS the player that the beat is split into 3 equal notes, so a beat split into 3 pieces can not then have those pieces also be called the beat.
vipersdragband 9 months ago
@vipersdragband There are 12 triplet-quavers in a 4/4 measure, thus it could be called a 12th note. There may be 12 8th notes in a 12/8 measure, but they are still 8th notes. If there's a whole number of notes (n) in a bar of 4/4, then it could be thought of as an "nth" note. A triplet minim could be a 3rd note, since it's 1/3 of a measure. Hence why a quarter note is 1/4 of a measure.... a measure being 4/4.
theultimatekoopa2 9 months ago
@theultimatekoopa2 Well, you "could" call a dog a cat as well if you really wished :-) You "could" do lots of things, that doesn't make it correct when discussing music notation. Its a common error for people to think that notation was developed at the same time as music, but notation is a relatively recent thing and not always logical like some kind of science. Just like in 6/8 time almost no one actually feels the 8th notes as beats, the dotted quarter is more often felt as the beat.
vipersdragband 9 months ago
@vipersdragband I know it's not correct, but calling a note of which there are twelve in a 4/4 bar, a "twelfth note", because a note of which there are eight is called an "eighth note" makes more sense than calling a cat a dog.
theultimatekoopa2 9 months ago
@theultimatekoopa2 Not much :-)
vipersdragband 9 months ago
@solodude7293 no...
vipersdragband 9 months ago
buzzkill
BackfiredPlans 2 years ago
I like your face.
OhNinaNina 2 years ago
The second part of this song is in 33/8. When I wrote it I thought I was being unique! God damnit.
despondentbosco 2 years ago
You are incredibly intelligent.. yet you have way too much time on your hands. Just kidding :P But yeah, 33/8 just sounds cooler.. a catchier title.
ophliablue 2 years ago
my head hurts
xspacie 2 years ago
haha breathe !
yeah definitely 33/8 sounds better
llt19 3 years ago
Hi! Just clarifying your video.
Structure of 33/8 is correct. Sure, it's better to say 7/4 plus 7/4 plus 5/8, but it's just cooler to say 33/8. After all, 33's a bigger number.
It's easier to imagine it if you picture the bars of 7/4 as just straight-ahead bars of 7/4 like most jazz musicians play it (4/4 plus 3/4). And the bar of 5/8 doesn't really swing... it's nearly impossible to swing 5/8! Just count to five... it's easier.
Hope this helps!
mattsavagejazz 3 years ago