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Don't listen to these brainwashed retards. They will all stand shamefully naked before God after their death and finally realize how satan had deceived them and will scream and cry at God to give them another chance but it will be to late and sadly they will be thrown into eternal Hell fire which fallen and cursed humanity deserved in the first place. As for us... thank the Father for his Son.
blinky6522 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I should also say in fairness that it's not at all clear that this principle violates Kalam at all; we just have to get rid of the classic creation ex nihilo event and replace it with a more organic process. Which might be a problem for some traditional theologies, but not to the fact the universe has a prior cause (which is all that Kalam can support anyway).
SkepticsClaw 6 months ago
It seems to me the universe couldn't exist prior to its creation, so how can we say that God 'caused it to exist'? There is no 'it' until after the event!
If we agree God created the universe, it really had to have been a state change from a 'conceptualised' state to a 'material' state; the actual creation event would indeed have been a rearrangement of God's thoughts into the perfect concept of the universe. Am I way off here?
SkepticsClaw 6 months ago
Another great vid. Glad I subbed!
Nyarl3 6 months ago
A new video?
And I didn't think "analyzation" was a word, but apparently it's archaic. Get with the times, bro!
seinfan9 6 months ago
@Naked atheist......For some reason I can't comment the right way...
Anyways, YES I am saying that God caused the universe to begin existing. He just didn't have to REARRANGE something in order to do it.
Not every interaction produces a rearrangement.
vbfl920 6 months ago
So are you saying God didn't cause the universe, that he essentially just "moved" it from non-existence to existence? If so I think you're grasping at straws here, but even so it's kinda off the subject, and does nothing to strengthen Kalam's first premise, it just makes an end run around it.
TheNakedAtheist 6 months ago
In fact the more that I think about it it's still causing it to come into existence even if it isn't rearranged, unless I'm misunderstanding you.
TheNakedAtheist 6 months ago