Why is this even an argument any more? The whole world knows 9/11 was an inside job. Anyone that doesn't is either finding the cognitive dissonance too uncomfortable to deal with or unwilling to do a few hours independent research.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
@Ril74 i love philosophy man. Im talking about the majority of Americans. We are an ignorant country concerned more with money than understanding and you wonder why prozac and zoloft are needed in such mass amounts or maybe you dont :)
star fucking hipsters rock , as for not touring come to Canada we'll take care of you , crash at my place lol everyone else does. and to the idiot who thinks 911 wasn't an inside job tell me seriously.. you think it was osoma get real there are way better targets to hit. it was just an excuse for the war mongering US to invade and stay in the middle east. tothe guy who hates the hman race well if you feel that strong about it kill ur self first
@punklover99 so would i XD. i really hate people who are so fucking blind sided to this shit. if 9/11 wasnt an inside job then why were there explosions in the towers befor they got hit? and if you slow down the vid, you can see the plane explode right before it hits.
bombs were planted in these buildings, the people that survived wtc even said that they felt bombs go off right before the plane hit, and wtc 6? wtf i mean they tried to cover that up by saying it was falling debris....bullshit. this was all a conspiracy to go get oil and were just pointing fingers at Muslim citizens. fuck America and bush.
@gangman42 they said that because they felt the force of the plane send a wave of energy through the building before they heard the explosion and realized what was happening. dumbass
creepybacon...why are you listening to this song if you dont believe what s.f.h is saying? its like when millions of mindless adolescents listen to hip-hop for the beat.
I never did under stand how the plane cause the tower to fall so perfectly. and the also cause tower 6 to fall without even touching it. Damn those terrorist are crafty.
@threepeice What the fuck are you saying here. David Copperfield. Are you saying 9-11 wasn't an inside job? You think falling debris knocked the whole building 7 down?
Do some research and them make a comment you sheep. 9/11 was alase flag operation. No black boxes yet they found bone fragments to identify bodies. Pentagon a titanium jet motor vanished yet they found passports, you're a moron.
"thats why im in one of the most prestigious political science progams in the nation" ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha you fucking pussy. dont you realize nobody gives a shit?
I think that you are obviously all faggots for taking the time to have an in-depth conversation about politics on a you-tube forum. You see, the thing about songs is, they are chok full of these things, "similies and metaphores". They are NOT to be taken out of context. The whole point of punk music is that its protest music. i think if this band saw all you homos arguing about 9/11 because of theyre song, they would be rolling on the floor laughing at your lack of lives, just as i am.
@thelockout People like to talk about things that interest them. Youtube is a perfectly acceptable outlet for it. Why do you care so much lol? Go to bed.
I mean honestly guys, its been 8 years and nobody has been charged with a crime for 911. And i'm not talking about moussoui being charged with precrime. And if you say KSM then you're an idiot, bc he was convicted of bojinka NOT 911. What you all believe is that 911 didn't happen, bc you don't want to see anyone held responsible.and dont' say OBl. Any retard can clearly see the fatty bin laden tape is 1.not obl, and 2. its diff than every other statement hes made. ask bruce lawrence.
Even if elements within the US Federal government were not complicit with the attacks of 9/11 the idea of state terrorism is nothing new.If not complicit they are at the minimum guilty of negligence and somebody should have been charged or at the very least fired, but everyone responsible for protecting us got promoted! Trying to convince ppl of this is pointless, you just harden their resolve. I just ask skeptics to read about the war games. At the very least there are unanswered questions.
I hate how almost everyone i know calls me out b/c i think 9/11 was an inside job. They are too damn naive. They can't get over the brainwashing propaganda that they were fed as kids telling them that America is the greatest country ever and all that sack of shit.
america is one of the greatest countries, nonetheless the people behind 9/11 crept into positions of power to cause an implode ironically similar to the towers
Yeah! Because people don't think it was an inside job just because they were brainwashed, yeah, you're so right!
You're the naive one. The government isn't nearly competent enough to be able to pull off such an act; let alone the Bush Administration. 9/11 conspiracies exist to line the pockets of antisemitic parasites like Alex Jones.
That makes absolutely no sense. That is like saying someone was intelligent enough to write a brilliant equation on a chalkboard, but they were unable to erase it with a cloth.
so you think it was Al Quida?...they supposedly carried out an attack with military grade explosives and what not and yet they now get their "professionally trained" terrorists get caught buying Hyrdogen Peroxide from pharmacies to try and do another attack...its bull shit. Al Quida did not have the capabilities to do carry out 9/11
For one, the official report indicates nothing about "military grade explosions" because none were used. All they did was fly planes into some buildings, it isn't that technical of a job; any number of them could have easily gotten flying lessons (which they did) and flown into a building.
The official reports also mention nothing about WTC 7...which was an obvious controlled demolition, and those take weeks to plan out....but they say the did it in one day.....sure sounds right
The commision report claims that the towers collapsed under the pancake theory. If it did this, it would take a while (in comparision...so like 30 seconds to a minute) but the towers fell at near free fall speed and there is no way a pancake theory could do this. the only way a building can fall at free fall speed is if its a controlled demolition. talk to any engineer
It's funny that you say that cause, they did. Tell me something, why would the government go through so much trouble to fly planes into the buildings when, in the 90s the world trade centers were just bombed? Why wouldnt they just bomb it again and say terrorists did it? It doesnt make sense. Go ahead and look up some responses to some of your 911 inside job arguments. They've all been debunked.
@b3rtne b/c the bombings didnt give them enough reason to pass anti-terrorist bills. the planes did. for example: the patriot act. And they've all been debunked? Explain to me how the BBC reported the collapse of WTC7 13 minutes before hand?
If you can name the three war games we know about that were happening that day and the individual who was newly appointed to arrange these war games, and you still don't agree there was complicity then fine thats your opinion.
If you know who umar sayid sheikh is and his relation to atta and general mahmood, and you still think the guilt rests with people in afghanistan, thats ur opinion.
You don't know these things though, so you're not "brainwashed" you're just apathetic and non-critical.
Everyone on this thread is a joke. If you seriously think that 9/11 is a government conspiracy, you lack intelligence of any sort. If you like anarchy and hate laws, you're completely stupid. The government may not be all good, but we'd be worse without it. Being UP DA PUNX is not going to do anything for you in life. You're trying to fit in. Find your own paths and stop defining yourselves by lyrics and hairstyles. Learn common sense, put on clean clothes without holes, and get a job. Tools.
Right. I'm not even remotely intelligent compared to the people in this band. That's why I'm in one of the most prestigious political science programs in the nation. If you say I'm not "half as smart" as these people, I'd really hate to know what constitutes intelligence for you. Apparently you think being smart involves smoking crack and trying to rebel without having any grasp on how society works. Have fun with that!
of coarse everyone knows its a setup. but do you know why? i do. message me and ill tell you (im serious, im not gonna like send you a stupid message that says ass or something, im dead serious)
well i read somewhere that there was a huge gold bullion not too far away or in the basement below which was the underlining reason to have a bigger threat. not only that but the investors of the twin towers had recently insured the buildings for hundreds of millions of dollars so it was actually convenient for that to happen.
no, i would agree. it isn't convenient but that ain't stopping them. I mean this country has been in war since it was conceived, and it's always been for money or power so what better way to get away with it than to blame it someone else.
@ABetterYesterday Yea definitely, the only problem is they hardly travel in general. Usually they just stick to the New York area. Well them and Leftover Crack. The reason for that is that all their touring money is supported by the shows so they don't like the idea of traveling afar and not being able to get back.
Believe it or not RaverXTC666, it doesn't have to burn hot enough to melt to cause the buildings to collapse, since steel loses 50% of its strength at 648° C while jetfire burns at 825° C.
Given, it takes 1525° C to melt steel.
I never got that rebuttal, because it's not the end of the plane facing the tower when it hits it
if thats the reason why the centers collapsed, first of all, whats with center number 7, and the pentagon a much older bullding built to take bullets and bombs, not prolonged heat, didnt collapse that wall, and it wasnt built near as sturdy.
My dad worked at pep-con before it blew up....pep-con being the main producer of commercial rocket fuel.
Your numbers are right but your theory is flawed....Jet fuel does not "burn".....as gasoline would....it combusts...so the steel wouldnt have time to melt or warp...
I've heard the "Fire retardant becoming flammible" theory.....but thats just nonsense
Well, This may sound stupid, But i think its a good thing these government buildings are gone, If only the NRA could disappear, JK. Seriously, They could've killed less people though. They don't deserve to live after killing so much.
i am a Canadian an i can even see it was an inside job they didn't have total proof no footage from the pentagon, the fact jet fuel cant melt steel and cause a building to collapse(it was bombs) and the fact at ground zero you could clearly see steel beams cut on an angle (just like a demo tem would do)..... it's a shame bush and his "team" got away with this
this makes sense for all we know it could have been an inside job i mean the goverment controls everything hell they can even change our views on the m so yeah i believe it was an inside job
Not to believe it could be an inside jobs seems to be ignorant. Who was the "winner" of 911? Some guys in Afghanistan? What was their profit? And then look at the profit of Bush, cheney and all the weapon - producing industrie.
Hey that's pretty gewd, that's true despite WTC 7 having nothing hit it, it collapsed inward on itself the explanation has been that the fire damaged the structure enough to make it collapse in itself.
Of course that makes no sense cuz fire doesn't bring buildings down, especially not in such a clean collapse.
ya know whats more ignorant than speculation? believing that fox news tells you the truth about ANYTHING! 3000 civilians dead and ignorant fucks like you won't even ask any questions! smart folks know what i mean......
@wanderer1031 Two kids make a shitty "documentary" that is so full of factual inaccuracies it had to be edited twice so it didn't sound so retarded, and suddenly you're a liberated, free thinking, investigator for believing it. Fuck Fox News, they're an embarrassment to news, but you're a fucking disgrace to science for ignoring all the counter evidence against this "theory." Reading 9/11 conspiracy theories is like watching dogmatic religious people trying to justify their God.
you fucking asshole one phones cant call from airplanes even now so wtf do you think about that, not enough, okay then how come every firefighter that went into those buildings reported explosions not from the plane, and then the collapses, the fire never is strong enough to burn down a whole fucking skyscraper
@RRguitaristTC Look I don't argue with crazy people but, I've made phone calls from planes before. Looks like your entire conspiracy is ruined.
Lots of shit explodes in a fire. Maybe you've never seen a fire before.
And that building was hit by a plane. Did you miss it? That tends to do damage in addition to fires. The shit that makes me laugh about this is that it's never happened before and you people expect it to be the same as other shit that you've seen. That's bad science and bad logic
@rorschach775 not in the highest time of flight its impossible, you wouldnt get service, and has any one of those phone call supposedly went to a person and not an answering machine, and if so there's not any stories of that.and the people that made the bowing said that the explosion could have never happened with that plane, and the one that "hit" the pentagon, where's the wreckage? a plane doesnt disintegrate, and neither does people, and a scientist found c4 remains in the ruble."truth"-lies
@RRguitaristTC Yeah well I did it. Explain that. Maybe my brain is a conspiracy.
Yeah.. And where did those planes go after they hit the twin towers? It's like it just vanished. I bet those weren't planes either.
You can watch videos of Boeings exlpode. They make fire... They make a lot of fire. That guy who "made the bowing" probably never blew one up. How often do you think the pizza maker blows up his pizza shop?
@rorschach775 when did you cause maybe you can now but not back then, i dont even think that you can now...idk deffinitly not in 2001 and the pentagon "plane crash" there's not a single piece of a plane and too small of a hole for a plane, or just its hull to fit through
just watch loose change and i'll watch what ever you want me for your side of the story
@RRguitaristTC I don't remember. It was a while ago. My phone always has service in a plane. That's why they tell you to turn them off. I watched loose change. It's stupid. There is plane debris in plenty of the pictures. And just like pretty much everything else you and those "documentaries" comment about, you've probably never seen a plane crash into a building. This is probably your first experience with it. That doesn't make you an expert and you have no reference to judge the hole.
@rorschach775 why are you on this song anyway, and i know for sure you cant call from a plane back then... loose change just showed that people have been lied to before and it was kept secret for a long time. My dad was there and he say it, he still believes it was an inside job all the way. why do you think we are in lybia rite now and that qudafi is dead. oil.
@RRguitaristTC Because I like this band. This song kinda sucks, but I like their other stuff.
And yeah I was there too and I think it wasn't an inside job. Weird how that works.
People can take advantage of tragedies for profit, it doesn't mean they necessarily caused them. This government has committed enough crimes. You don't need a conspiracy to think they're corrupt or fucked up.
guess i can convince you but idk maybe in 30 yrs they'll let us know that they did it... but some info:
bush was the puppet and his dad helped do all this.
but seriously dont you wonder why no bodies or even bones were found... ive heard of som theory that the planes were drones, i dont believe that but that everyone in the buildings that fell...FELL... said there was explosions not from the planes,some even b4 the crash, thats got to be something
@RRguitaristTC Do you know how retarded you sound? Not because of your theory, but because of how you type, and how you're trying to convey your message?
People who fell are probably dead. I know a guy who said he saw people's bodies exploding on the pavement. Spines ripping through their back. I don't think they said much about explosions after that.
@rorschach775 i just said someone said that... i know there were those bodies, i dont beleive that theory of the drone planes.... amd there were people that got out and said they heard explosions from below then, above them what ever...we can go on and on about this topic(9/11), bit another thins is that the tower (7) fell even though no building was around is that was on fire and no plane hit it
but the best back up is that they fell down (collasped) running out of room 1 sec...
@rorschach775 continued.... the planes didnt make a couple of floors burn down, or even level out some floors but some how the entire structure failed and it collapsed..collapsed
@RRguitaristTC Yeah that's what happens when a building is on fire. Shit explodes and if the damage is severe enough, the thing collapses. I don't know why you people think there needs to be a conspiracy for this. It's like if a nuclear bomb was dropped on a city, you'd look at the rubble and rather believe tiny mice disassembled everything.
@rorschach775 yes news flash to everyone, not the government no inside job just mice, thank you for understanding...ha as is Mbish is a dirty rat gotcha
no people like you are close minded and dont look at everything from different perspectives like we do OPEN YOUR EYES AND STOP BELIEVING ALL THE LIES THAT YOUR BEING FED
i just read a review from rolling stone of green days new album, and listened to a couple of the songs they raved about, and ITS TOTAL SHIT. its the same simple fuck no good tunes theyve always done and its being praised as masterpiece. whats unbelieveable is that bands like leftover crack and SFH produce amazingly better records ina a way shorter and less hyped period. AND they're extremely more politically relevant.
fuck the human race, we keep letting shit happen. I'm sick of it. if you care, if you really fuckin care, do something! dont just hate. . . make ACTION!
wow i listen to the music not to bullshit with others
MrRawrrrXD 1 month ago
Why is this even an argument any more? The whole world knows 9/11 was an inside job. Anyone that doesn't is either finding the cognitive dissonance too uncomfortable to deal with or unwilling to do a few hours independent research.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
macco66 3 months ago
"inside joke..."...HAHA...I get it! I get jokes! HAHA! What? Damn, that shit was good...
wanderer1031 3 months ago
huhu
A09556 5 months ago
happy 9/11....
xXpunk100 5 months ago 8
hey guys guess what tomorrow is!
ANBUblackops666 5 months ago
them lyriccs is inccorectt hommaayy
ldr513 7 months ago
what's that song at the end?
sweetrevenge191 11 months ago
@sweetrevenge191 It's an intro to the next song called "The Path is Paved"
anonyponies 5 months ago
questions are awesome but dangerous why do u think philosphers are seen as losers?
TheCreaso 1 year ago
@TheCreaso Do you mean by you? Cause that isn't how I see them.
Ril74 1 year ago
@Ril74 i love philosophy man. Im talking about the majority of Americans. We are an ignorant country concerned more with money than understanding and you wonder why prozac and zoloft are needed in such mass amounts or maybe you dont :)
TheCreaso 1 year ago
just heard of em thought id check em out, sounds like a ska-based scene blink 182 band,with a drummer trying way too hard to sound thrashy.
drgonzo2131 1 year ago
Education Revolution Liberation
KenCat1337 1 year ago
star fucking hipsters rock , as for not touring come to Canada we'll take care of you , crash at my place lol everyone else does. and to the idiot who thinks 911 wasn't an inside job tell me seriously.. you think it was osoma get real there are way better targets to hit. it was just an excuse for the war mongering US to invade and stay in the middle east. tothe guy who hates the hman race well if you feel that strong about it kill ur self first
UnknownDeath1000 1 year ago
i wish someone would make a tributie to that with this song
2Nbafan 1 year ago
i wonder if they would ever play this song live in new york on a 9/11 anniversary i would give anything to see that live
punklover99 1 year ago
@punklover99 so would i XD. i really hate people who are so fucking blind sided to this shit. if 9/11 wasnt an inside job then why were there explosions in the towers befor they got hit? and if you slow down the vid, you can see the plane explode right before it hits.
gangman42 1 year ago
It's that day to blast this all over your myspace, face book, and everywhere else. Happy the day the country got fucked from the inside out day.
Jasonchanceless 1 year ago
theres 2 sides to being stupid, theres the people who belive everything the goverment says and people who think every thing they say is a lie
9-11 may very well have bin a inside job but some people who make up ideas for it are fucking insane
papason4041 1 year ago
@bAmpersand
religion isent evil the christan jews and muslims are evil
us shamanists are just people of the earth
papason4041 1 year ago
bombs were planted in these buildings, the people that survived wtc even said that they felt bombs go off right before the plane hit, and wtc 6? wtf i mean they tried to cover that up by saying it was falling debris....bullshit. this was all a conspiracy to go get oil and were just pointing fingers at Muslim citizens. fuck America and bush.
gangman42 1 year ago 6
@gangman42 they said that because they felt the force of the plane send a wave of energy through the building before they heard the explosion and realized what was happening. dumbass
PsychSic6 2 months ago
@PsychSic6 No "Dumbass" You can't feel the force of shit before any physical contact. Fuck you and your retarded logic.
gangman42 2 months ago
best song by the star fucking hipsters
MrPunkforlife1 1 year ago
LOC toured last year. SFH were promised.
crackwill 1 year ago
Star Fucking Hipsters needs to come to Cali! :/
StupidStupidSatan 1 year ago
whos G DUB?
FuckTheSultann 1 year ago
@FuckTheSultann
G-Dub is the government.
jwboyd85652 1 year ago
pretty awesome song
if enyone likes good rap
listen to
The cause of death by Immortal Technique
same meaning but goes into more detail
also listen to Industrial revolutions by the same artist
gtardoriffic 1 year ago
creepybacon...why are you listening to this song if you dont believe what s.f.h is saying? its like when millions of mindless adolescents listen to hip-hop for the beat.
dirtbagstan 2 years ago
I never did under stand how the plane cause the tower to fall so perfectly. and the also cause tower 6 to fall without even touching it. Damn those terrorist are crafty.
monksy69696969 2 years ago
Yeah guy, tower 6? WTF are you saying?
- fact check yourself before you wreck yourself, it was tower 7.
WTC7 was hit by Debris from WTC1 falling, but obviously they meant to do it all like picking up a spare in Bowling... /nod
Not to mention David Copperfield was seen running from all three buildings.
threepeice 2 years ago
@threepeice What the fuck are you saying here. David Copperfield. Are you saying 9-11 wasn't an inside job? You think falling debris knocked the whole building 7 down?
manmadeaids 1 year ago
You can look it up everywhere wise guy.
Of course you probally believe in the guy you spoke of twice. Jesus...LOL
Keep following sheep, look at the other things this governments done. Bringing in cocaine, funding contras, assasinations.
636squid 2 years ago
@636squid The joke is you only believe it because you want to rebel and not go with the "sheep".
Pathetic. Use that brain of yours and ask yourself how fucking stupid you sound.
Lets fly a plane into our own building. You stupid..stupid prat.
CreepyBacon 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I thought these guys where pretty intelligent right up to this song. Sure it was an inside job. Righto.
Nutters everywhere these days.
CreepyBacon 2 years ago
Do some research and them make a comment you sheep. 9/11 was alase flag operation. No black boxes yet they found bone fragments to identify bodies. Pentagon a titanium jet motor vanished yet they found passports, you're a moron.
636squid 2 years ago
Yeah, he's right why don't you research it. I mean everything you see on the internet is true right?.......
AlwaysOutgunned 2 years ago
Well I can't comment on the 9/11 conspiracy theory as I havnt done enough research, but I commend Stza.
FraterAeternus93 2 years ago
Of course it was an inside job. Gotta crack a couple eggs to make an omelete. really, cry about it.
Rshimy 2 years ago
fuck off nocturnezero if you dont like the message then why did you even click on the video if it says it right in the title?
thebigdickman69 2 years ago
kick ass! love this band.
Stza knows how to write good music!
JimmyBshaw 2 years ago
The song sucks, the message is retarded. One star.
nocturnezero 2 years ago
Great song.
stupid people. VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
PsychoMrBlue666 2 years ago
i like leftover crack and choking victim much better :/
dkandpistols 2 years ago
i agree. i only like LoC and CV better cause I listened to them before SFH.
WhipTheBacon1234 2 years ago
"thats why im in one of the most prestigious political science progams in the nation" ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha you fucking pussy. dont you realize nobody gives a shit?
thelockout 2 years ago
I think that you are obviously all faggots for taking the time to have an in-depth conversation about politics on a you-tube forum. You see, the thing about songs is, they are chok full of these things, "similies and metaphores". They are NOT to be taken out of context. The whole point of punk music is that its protest music. i think if this band saw all you homos arguing about 9/11 because of theyre song, they would be rolling on the floor laughing at your lack of lives, just as i am.
thelockout 2 years ago
@thelockout People like to talk about things that interest them. Youtube is a perfectly acceptable outlet for it. Why do you care so much lol? Go to bed.
Rshimy 2 years ago
I mean honestly guys, its been 8 years and nobody has been charged with a crime for 911. And i'm not talking about moussoui being charged with precrime. And if you say KSM then you're an idiot, bc he was convicted of bojinka NOT 911. What you all believe is that 911 didn't happen, bc you don't want to see anyone held responsible.and dont' say OBl. Any retard can clearly see the fatty bin laden tape is 1.not obl, and 2. its diff than every other statement hes made. ask bruce lawrence.
lanceshitheadnada 2 years ago
Even if elements within the US Federal government were not complicit with the attacks of 9/11 the idea of state terrorism is nothing new.If not complicit they are at the minimum guilty of negligence and somebody should have been charged or at the very least fired, but everyone responsible for protecting us got promoted! Trying to convince ppl of this is pointless, you just harden their resolve. I just ask skeptics to read about the war games. At the very least there are unanswered questions.
lanceshitheadnada 2 years ago
I hate how almost everyone i know calls me out b/c i think 9/11 was an inside job. They are too damn naive. They can't get over the brainwashing propaganda that they were fed as kids telling them that America is the greatest country ever and all that sack of shit.
hockeyrocks5757 2 years ago
america is one of the greatest countries, nonetheless the people behind 9/11 crept into positions of power to cause an implode ironically similar to the towers
whikn 2 years ago
Yeah! Because people don't think it was an inside job just because they were brainwashed, yeah, you're so right!
You're the naive one. The government isn't nearly competent enough to be able to pull off such an act; let alone the Bush Administration. 9/11 conspiracies exist to line the pockets of antisemitic parasites like Alex Jones.
imtaylol 2 years ago
No they were competent enough to pull it off....they just weren't very good at covering it up
hockeyrocks5757 2 years ago
That makes absolutely no sense. That is like saying someone was intelligent enough to write a brilliant equation on a chalkboard, but they were unable to erase it with a cloth.
imtaylol 2 years ago
so you think it was Al Quida?...they supposedly carried out an attack with military grade explosives and what not and yet they now get their "professionally trained" terrorists get caught buying Hyrdogen Peroxide from pharmacies to try and do another attack...its bull shit. Al Quida did not have the capabilities to do carry out 9/11
hockeyrocks5757 2 years ago
For one, the official report indicates nothing about "military grade explosions" because none were used. All they did was fly planes into some buildings, it isn't that technical of a job; any number of them could have easily gotten flying lessons (which they did) and flown into a building.
imtaylol 2 years ago
The official reports also mention nothing about WTC 7...which was an obvious controlled demolition, and those take weeks to plan out....but they say the did it in one day.....sure sounds right
hockeyrocks5757 2 years ago
Explain to me how it was an "obvious controlled definition".
imtaylol 2 years ago
The commision report claims that the towers collapsed under the pancake theory. If it did this, it would take a while (in comparision...so like 30 seconds to a minute) but the towers fell at near free fall speed and there is no way a pancake theory could do this. the only way a building can fall at free fall speed is if its a controlled demolition. talk to any engineer
hockeyrocks5757 2 years ago
It's funny that you say that cause, they did. Tell me something, why would the government go through so much trouble to fly planes into the buildings when, in the 90s the world trade centers were just bombed? Why wouldnt they just bomb it again and say terrorists did it? It doesnt make sense. Go ahead and look up some responses to some of your 911 inside job arguments. They've all been debunked.
b3rtne 2 years ago
@b3rtne b/c the bombings didnt give them enough reason to pass anti-terrorist bills. the planes did. for example: the patriot act. And they've all been debunked? Explain to me how the BBC reported the collapse of WTC7 13 minutes before hand?
hockeyrocks5757 2 years ago
If you can name the three war games we know about that were happening that day and the individual who was newly appointed to arrange these war games, and you still don't agree there was complicity then fine thats your opinion.
If you know who umar sayid sheikh is and his relation to atta and general mahmood, and you still think the guilt rests with people in afghanistan, thats ur opinion.
You don't know these things though, so you're not "brainwashed" you're just apathetic and non-critical.
lanceshitheadnada 2 years ago
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Everyone on this thread is a joke. If you seriously think that 9/11 is a government conspiracy, you lack intelligence of any sort. If you like anarchy and hate laws, you're completely stupid. The government may not be all good, but we'd be worse without it. Being UP DA PUNX is not going to do anything for you in life. You're trying to fit in. Find your own paths and stop defining yourselves by lyrics and hairstyles. Learn common sense, put on clean clothes without holes, and get a job. Tools.
dirtyheroinex 2 years ago
citation needed.
GrimmSoldier 2 years ago
Im pretty sure noone asked you?
ravedave878 2 years ago
I bet you aren't half as smart, half as fun, or half as interesting as any of the people in this band.
blackfireINSANITY 2 years ago
lol have you seen a stza interview or in concert?
whikn 2 years ago
no. i want to though
hockeyrocks5757 2 years ago
Right. I'm not even remotely intelligent compared to the people in this band. That's why I'm in one of the most prestigious political science programs in the nation. If you say I'm not "half as smart" as these people, I'd really hate to know what constitutes intelligence for you. Apparently you think being smart involves smoking crack and trying to rebel without having any grasp on how society works. Have fun with that!
dirtyheroinex 2 years ago
of coarse everyone knows its a setup. but do you know why? i do. message me and ill tell you (im serious, im not gonna like send you a stupid message that says ass or something, im dead serious)
renquist13 2 years ago
well i read somewhere that there was a huge gold bullion not too far away or in the basement below which was the underlining reason to have a bigger threat. not only that but the investors of the twin towers had recently insured the buildings for hundreds of millions of dollars so it was actually convenient for that to happen.
operationx420 2 years ago
problem with this theory is.... wheres the gold? it would still be there. And its never convenient to kill thousands of people.
thetriten 2 years ago
no, i would agree. it isn't convenient but that ain't stopping them. I mean this country has been in war since it was conceived, and it's always been for money or power so what better way to get away with it than to blame it someone else.
operationx420 2 years ago
this band is AWESOME i saw them live!!
tattie1 2 years ago
hells yea, i hope they come to wisconsin. I saw Leftover Crack @ Riot fest in Chytown and that was probably one of my favorite shows ever.
operationx420 2 years ago
@operationx420 I wish they would come to AUS -sad face-.
ABetterYesterday 1 year ago
@ABetterYesterday Yea definitely, the only problem is they hardly travel in general. Usually they just stick to the New York area. Well them and Leftover Crack. The reason for that is that all their touring money is supported by the shows so they don't like the idea of traveling afar and not being able to get back.
operationx420 1 year ago
@ABetterYesterday best bet though, i would let them know they have many fans down there, then write to them. : )
operationx420 1 year ago
@operationx420 Oh yea. I was at that show. It probably would have been better had Stza not been so wasted.
zzyzx0788 1 year ago
Believe it or not RaverXTC666, it doesn't have to burn hot enough to melt to cause the buildings to collapse, since steel loses 50% of its strength at 648° C while jetfire burns at 825° C.
Given, it takes 1525° C to melt steel.
I never got that rebuttal, because it's not the end of the plane facing the tower when it hits it
:P
KokaKolaKills 2 years ago
if thats the reason why the centers collapsed, first of all, whats with center number 7, and the pentagon a much older bullding built to take bullets and bombs, not prolonged heat, didnt collapse that wall, and it wasnt built near as sturdy.
renquist13 2 years ago
My dad worked at pep-con before it blew up....pep-con being the main producer of commercial rocket fuel.
Your numbers are right but your theory is flawed....Jet fuel does not "burn".....as gasoline would....it combusts...so the steel wouldnt have time to melt or warp...
I've heard the "Fire retardant becoming flammible" theory.....but thats just nonsense
eerawb 2 years ago
they were the first and last sky scrapers to collapse from fire in history.
antifapunx 2 years ago
i love this band!
lgfuad4lyf 2 years ago
Well, This may sound stupid, But i think its a good thing these government buildings are gone, If only the NRA could disappear, JK. Seriously, They could've killed less people though. They don't deserve to live after killing so much.
EAbomination 2 years ago
i am a Canadian an i can even see it was an inside job they didn't have total proof no footage from the pentagon, the fact jet fuel cant melt steel and cause a building to collapse(it was bombs) and the fact at ground zero you could clearly see steel beams cut on an angle (just like a demo tem would do)..... it's a shame bush and his "team" got away with this
RaverXTC666 2 years ago 2
this makes sense for all we know it could have been an inside job i mean the goverment controls everything hell they can even change our views on the m so yeah i believe it was an inside job
Pataricksayshi 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
o my godddddd
they dont honestly fucking think 911 was an inside job do they?
thats soo fucking ignorant..
zomebies 2 years ago
No it's not ignorant at all. I also believe it was an inside job.
MissHizzle22 2 years ago 2
It would be the perfect crime.
operationx420 2 years ago
Not to believe it could be an inside jobs seems to be ignorant. Who was the "winner" of 911? Some guys in Afghanistan? What was their profit? And then look at the profit of Bush, cheney and all the weapon - producing industrie.
123RockSteady 2 years ago
How many WTC buildings fell on 9/11?
jebril 2 years ago
3 (:
MissHizzle22 2 years ago
Hey that's pretty gewd, that's true despite WTC 7 having nothing hit it, it collapsed inward on itself the explanation has been that the fire damaged the structure enough to make it collapse in itself.
Of course that makes no sense cuz fire doesn't bring buildings down, especially not in such a clean collapse.
jebril 2 years ago 2
You are part of the problem in this world.
Chunkylover08 2 years ago
ya know whats more ignorant than speculation? believing that fox news tells you the truth about ANYTHING! 3000 civilians dead and ignorant fucks like you won't even ask any questions! smart folks know what i mean......
wanderer1031 2 years ago 7
thats y the song says 3000 bodys never found?"pull"'s construction worked slang
for a controlled demolition
bombed to pull it to its base Marvin Bush helped put in place
but crushed people "vaporized"?
with the evidence erased
the victim' families had no case
stevenisno1 2 years ago
@wanderer1031 Two kids make a shitty "documentary" that is so full of factual inaccuracies it had to be edited twice so it didn't sound so retarded, and suddenly you're a liberated, free thinking, investigator for believing it. Fuck Fox News, they're an embarrassment to news, but you're a fucking disgrace to science for ignoring all the counter evidence against this "theory." Reading 9/11 conspiracy theories is like watching dogmatic religious people trying to justify their God.
rorschach775 4 months ago
@rorschach775
you fucking asshole one phones cant call from airplanes even now so wtf do you think about that, not enough, okay then how come every firefighter that went into those buildings reported explosions not from the plane, and then the collapses, the fire never is strong enough to burn down a whole fucking skyscraper
RRguitaristTC 3 months ago
@RRguitaristTC Look I don't argue with crazy people but, I've made phone calls from planes before. Looks like your entire conspiracy is ruined.
Lots of shit explodes in a fire. Maybe you've never seen a fire before.
And that building was hit by a plane. Did you miss it? That tends to do damage in addition to fires. The shit that makes me laugh about this is that it's never happened before and you people expect it to be the same as other shit that you've seen. That's bad science and bad logic
rorschach775 3 months ago
@rorschach775 not in the highest time of flight its impossible, you wouldnt get service, and has any one of those phone call supposedly went to a person and not an answering machine, and if so there's not any stories of that.and the people that made the bowing said that the explosion could have never happened with that plane, and the one that "hit" the pentagon, where's the wreckage? a plane doesnt disintegrate, and neither does people, and a scientist found c4 remains in the ruble."truth"-lies
RRguitaristTC 3 months ago
@RRguitaristTC Yeah well I did it. Explain that. Maybe my brain is a conspiracy.
Yeah.. And where did those planes go after they hit the twin towers? It's like it just vanished. I bet those weren't planes either.
You can watch videos of Boeings exlpode. They make fire... They make a lot of fire. That guy who "made the bowing" probably never blew one up. How often do you think the pizza maker blows up his pizza shop?
rorschach775 3 months ago
@rorschach775 when did you cause maybe you can now but not back then, i dont even think that you can now...idk deffinitly not in 2001 and the pentagon "plane crash" there's not a single piece of a plane and too small of a hole for a plane, or just its hull to fit through
just watch loose change and i'll watch what ever you want me for your side of the story
RRguitaristTC 3 months ago
@RRguitaristTC I don't remember. It was a while ago. My phone always has service in a plane. That's why they tell you to turn them off. I watched loose change. It's stupid. There is plane debris in plenty of the pictures. And just like pretty much everything else you and those "documentaries" comment about, you've probably never seen a plane crash into a building. This is probably your first experience with it. That doesn't make you an expert and you have no reference to judge the hole.
rorschach775 3 months ago
@rorschach775 why are you on this song anyway, and i know for sure you cant call from a plane back then... loose change just showed that people have been lied to before and it was kept secret for a long time. My dad was there and he say it, he still believes it was an inside job all the way. why do you think we are in lybia rite now and that qudafi is dead. oil.
RRguitaristTC 3 months ago
@RRguitaristTC Because I like this band. This song kinda sucks, but I like their other stuff.
And yeah I was there too and I think it wasn't an inside job. Weird how that works.
People can take advantage of tragedies for profit, it doesn't mean they necessarily caused them. This government has committed enough crimes. You don't need a conspiracy to think they're corrupt or fucked up.
rorschach775 3 months ago
@rorschach775
guess i can convince you but idk maybe in 30 yrs they'll let us know that they did it... but some info:
bush was the puppet and his dad helped do all this.
but seriously dont you wonder why no bodies or even bones were found... ive heard of som theory that the planes were drones, i dont believe that but that everyone in the buildings that fell...FELL... said there was explosions not from the planes,some even b4 the crash, thats got to be something
RRguitaristTC 3 months ago
@RRguitaristTC Do you know how retarded you sound? Not because of your theory, but because of how you type, and how you're trying to convey your message?
People who fell are probably dead. I know a guy who said he saw people's bodies exploding on the pavement. Spines ripping through their back. I don't think they said much about explosions after that.
rorschach775 3 months ago
@rorschach775 i just said someone said that... i know there were those bodies, i dont beleive that theory of the drone planes.... amd there were people that got out and said they heard explosions from below then, above them what ever...we can go on and on about this topic(9/11), bit another thins is that the tower (7) fell even though no building was around is that was on fire and no plane hit it
but the best back up is that they fell down (collasped) running out of room 1 sec...
RRguitaristTC 3 months ago
@rorschach775 continued.... the planes didnt make a couple of floors burn down, or even level out some floors but some how the entire structure failed and it collapsed..collapsed
RRguitaristTC 3 months ago
@RRguitaristTC Yeah that's what happens when a building is on fire. Shit explodes and if the damage is severe enough, the thing collapses. I don't know why you people think there needs to be a conspiracy for this. It's like if a nuclear bomb was dropped on a city, you'd look at the rubble and rather believe tiny mice disassembled everything.
rorschach775 3 months ago
@rorschach775 alright what ever man jokes on you then.
RRguitaristTC 3 months ago
@RRguitaristTC Yeah the jokes on me because you think tiny mice disassembled the twin towers. I feel so stupid.
rorschach775 3 months ago
@rorschach775 yes news flash to everyone, not the government no inside job just mice, thank you for understanding...ha as is Mbish is a dirty rat gotcha
RRguitaristTC 3 months ago
um....are you in newyork....are you from newyork....did you watch it happen? doubt it.
lgfuad4lyf 2 years ago
Do you know how to spell new york? hahaha dumbass.
ireznor2day 2 years ago
no people like you are close minded and dont look at everything from different perspectives like we do OPEN YOUR EYES AND STOP BELIEVING ALL THE LIES THAT YOUR BEING FED
ALL OF OUR LAWS ARE FIXED BY LYING PIGS!
stevenisno1 2 years ago 3
plot of human terror unfolds behind the pricint door
to cage all the minorities, the immigrants and poor
next they'll hunt the handicapped, disabled blind and deaf
and what will all these piggies do HA! when no ones left?
you gots to hate that gang of fucking pigs!!
wanderer1031 2 years ago
i just read a review from rolling stone of green days new album, and listened to a couple of the songs they raved about, and ITS TOTAL SHIT. its the same simple fuck no good tunes theyve always done and its being praised as masterpiece. whats unbelieveable is that bands like leftover crack and SFH produce amazingly better records ina a way shorter and less hyped period. AND they're extremely more politically relevant.
STOP THIS FUCKING INSANITY
thebalancetheory1212 2 years ago 12
I know right, and those no lyrically clever hip-hop artists on American Idol either... the worlds nutz!
hardonforjesus 2 years ago 2
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magikki 2 years ago
the one at the top is just dumb
jtkdtr4nm 2 years ago
all these fucking lies make the baby jesus cry!
bassjason 2 years ago
i like the teenage jesus better.
Iwannariot77 2 years ago
god!
this song is soo clever.
unseenlock 2 years ago
kill the puppet masters
bastardofbesenyodi 2 years ago 2
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bastardofbesenyodi 2 years ago
Sounds like an early NOFX song.
coolio436 2 years ago
yeah, a raw dirty pre pop no effects song.
wanderer1031 2 years ago
fuck the human race, we keep letting shit happen. I'm sick of it. if you care, if you really fuckin care, do something! dont just hate. . . make ACTION!
youngtotbeyondthesea 3 years ago 11
fuck the nwo
codywright99 3 years ago
awesome
9/11 Truth for Life
thedreamisstilldead 3 years ago 3
norad found santa lastnight, but it turned out just to be a simulation.
fametheory 3 years ago
that was fucking awesome, just found out about this band a few days ago, FUCKIN AWESOME
MBbackwards 3 years ago