I would pity the "street fighter" that tried to take on Bill. The funny thing is those light and fluffy looking kicks he throws all have knockout potential, as he proved when he won his kickboxing title.
It's not difficult to make the distinction that this is for sports, not real combat. As such, it's great technique from an awesome martial artist! I'm a self-protection instructor AND a martial artist - the differences are important. If anyone's going to get into a debate or criticise a video then I would recommend learning the differences between traditional MA, combat sports, self-defence and self-protection.
yes please, people understand that neither kickboxing nor mma are "street" combat systems. you can't safely clinch an opponent on the street. you can't repeatedly high kick people on the forearms to make them "lower their guard". in the street, the most important thing is that you know how to a. keep your head and b. control your flinch reflex. beyond that, any training will help, but sports are not specifically designed to be street effective!!
@ubersum1 It depends on the persons involved. The avg person does not know how to properly fight, and if pitted against someone who is active in MA, chances are avg person will lose . There's tons of videos on the net that show camera footage of real fights where people display obvious martial arts training and win. like the Karate teacher KO'ing the pimp, the Kung Fu guy that KO'd a thug, the BJJ guy who choked a dude out at a gas station, even a UFC fighter got into street fight and KO'd guy.
@codylong1980 my point was that kickboxing and other sports are designed FOR kickboxing and other sports. though they will help on the street. i actually said at the end of my post that "any training will help" - what i mean by that is exactly what you have said. ANY combat training will help on the street, because yes, most people haven't trained in anything. something > nothing.
ON THE SLOW MOTION BITS U CAN REALLY SEE HIS ARMS FLYING ALL OVER THE PLACE, SAY THE KICK GOES WRONG UR FACE IS COMPLETLY OPEN, NOT GOOD, GOOD KICK THOUGH
@JDFightingFilms lol just came from looking at your vid it not bad but it not great and your talking about a man that have made it way to the top in kickboxing even at his age he still can kick your butt
@JDFightingFilms your not looking at the distancing of his head, he is leaning back as he throws the kick. Do you really trhink you could attack sumone at the same time getting kicked in the face or are you actually gunna block? You could try both but you would be pritty damn good to pull both of at once.
@JDFightingFilms it is too hard to maintain ballance when you are kicking so high...that s why his arms are flying.....fighters who are very but vert stretched they can keep their arms in guard.....even so this guy is stretched, but he is not holding his guard...if u are stretched enough you must just practise to hold guard, I saw many good kickboxers doing lowkicks and when they do it their arms are flying..they open their guard...... bcs they dont have balance when they are doing leg kicks...
@wushuollie Yes..it is true.....with that you get more power in that kick and you can kick with all power weight, which is very powerfull than just leg....I dont know did you understand me bcs my english is not so good....
To be able to do this kind of fighting, you have to be super flexible and super fast. I'm sure He could kick ass with this technique but I think that would be very difficult for most people. I'm not hating, its cool to watch- I'm just saying
Nice to see beautiful technique being executed correctly. Good work!Totally agree with you badgers 1975, an inspiration to us all. Currently out of the game with herniated disc. Time, patience and luck .
I met Bill and Joe Lewis at the martial arts show in birmingham a couple of weeks ago. you would struggle to find two nicer men, more willing to show what they know and to teach. But my god they can still move. There are alot of martial arts "stars" who could learn a hell of alot from them
Imaginen estas peleas, en el mejor momento de: Superfoot vs. Jean Claude Van Damme; Huo Yuanjia vs. Bruce Lee; Oyama vs. Choi Hong Hi; Rickson Gracie vs. Kimura; Royce Gracie vs. Wally Jay; Frank Dux vs. Joe Lewis; Joe Louis vs. Muhammad Ali; Euclides Santana vs. Bas Rutten; Chuck Norris vs. Ken Shamrok; Helio Gracie vs. Gene Lebell; Nai Khanomtom vs. Bai Yu Feng; Rei Zulu vs. Fedor Emilianenko.
hook kick in this scenario is a very slow counter. If u wanna trick your opponent and make him charge after pretending to be unbalanced, thats fine, but counter that charge with a spining back kick into his ribs. thats the fastest and the most effective in this scenario
very dangerous move. fighting against someone who knows he would have been desstroyed doing that move. hope no one trys this. i have been training in many combat arts since i was 5 and this is not something i would advise anyone to try. maybe in point sparring or something of that nature or even an off balance street fighter you may be able to pull off something like this but in a circle of real fighters you can be barely hurt. even from that first kick he used. no disrespect intended.
If this guy is such a big legend, didn`t he hear anything about defense? If a left high kick from an oponent were to come at 1:38, he would sleep for an year and meditate on his stupid technics. I practice kickboxing since 12 years old and the first rule when hiting with the leg is to protect your chin whin the oposant arm. All of you are impressed in how high he can hit but you don`t know anything about fighting.
... that kick would be completely useless, the strength behind it comes only from your legs while the punch goes from the legs to a twisting motion up towards the body. If you both hit, you'll be hurt more, plus you have one leg off the ground, getting hit would not be fun.
@hellarkie If you do the combo like the way he demostrates it, there is very little chance of getting that punch in. From the side view, it looks like he could connect with the punch, but the shoulder actually does protect his head. If you have strong legs, a front leg hook kick is very potent, offensively and defensively, one of my favorites
@Elurin Well i guess it can work in kickboxing but the way he showed it is confusing... he said that he can see the punch so automatically goes for a hook kick therefore imo no power... but if used defensively it would be more useful just to shock the guy similar to a light jab. Though it is also riskier having one leg off the ground so high 1:08 you can see that even he went off balance from the kick. Plus... isn't that guy dropping his hands too much?....
@deathreaper10 it would if you're smaller and faster than your opponent; i know, for me, that wouldn't work so well since im kinda big. actually just tried the combo at home and its not too bad if you keep the actual roundhouse at mid-section and if its more of a Dollyo Chagi than a Mawashi Geri, the taekwondo variety is simpler and faster. Really depends on what your opponent is doing too, . if you open with a jab to the head to draw his block up then go for the fake+roundhouse combo
@GreenGold33 Wallace was a legend in his time. A champion at middle weight(160lbs) in PKA. Full contact Karate. Not Kickboxing as in K1. Wallace had a bad right leg and could not handle leg kicks.
@ramrod20042000 So? Leg kicks or not, the fact was that he was a full contact fighter.
This stuff is still amazing for developing your kicking skills. You just have to know how to adapt it for what you do. I mean, I personally don't like to leave my leg in the air for more than one good kick, but these exercises give me much more control, power, and speed over any kick I feel like dishing out.
@GreenGold33 Yes, if you are a point fighter. Your high front leg side,roundhouse & hook kick will approve. Along with your flexibility.If you follow his tapes. But really to win any point tournament. All you need is a front leg side kick,front kick and a reverse punch. Timing is the key
Blinky did beat Wallace, and should have gotten the decision, but don't diss the guy and make this a racist thi g. I love All the Urquidez Brothers, and I'm sure even Blinky wouldn't appreciate this diss. Give the man respect he really DID earn it.
What a brilliant tactician. And I thought he was just able to hit you because he was stretched and fast. Bill worked out a complete scion e of kicking and came up with it all by himself. Unlike so many other old skull guys, Bills technique always showed up with him in the ring proving thAt he wasn't just blowing smoke.
My dad met bill at my dad's old dojo once. He did a standing split against a wall :P this is almost 30 or so years ago if not more. My dad is 60ish mind you :P
Man if Master Wallace only had a right leg to go with his left he would be know as the greatest not just one of the greats
He could also use that same decoy kick to deliver a killer rib cracking back kick with the right if he could kick with the right. But he was AWESOME with just one leg none the less.
@CASteel1 Excellent point about the back kick combo. Thanks man. That's a pretty creative and effectively useful idea. I will try it when I am a little more used to point fighting.
bill wallace is joke, blinky beat the shit out of him but got robbed by the judges. he is arrogant guy but the public loved him because he was the face of american kickboxing. at the time
@addko14 We would love to see the video, & you're entiled to your opinion. I'm a fan of Bill. I heard Blinky was good. Do you have or know where to watch the video? Thanks.
you are ridiculas, It doesn't even look like you lose your balance. If someone was to fall for that bull, they just cant fight. I would have slamed you on your head if you tried that on me. I'm a mma fighter, so don't think i dont know what im talkin about. I train in muay thai, our main focus is kicks, knees, and elbows. So I am 100 percent that that shit wouldn't work. I probly would if it looked like you realy lost ur balance, but sorry it don't
@Kountry351 Dude you are fucking full of shit. Every MMA fighter knows who this guy is, you obviously do not know who he is and obviously are not the MMA fighter you claim to be.
@Kountry351 Easy to say when your watching from the safety of your monitor and its not happening right in front of you. If it was that easy to knockout Wallace, pro fighters would have done so years ago.
bill inspired me to be number one jr lightweight point karate, I could kick from the left to right side with either leg, everbody wanted to kick like him, this kid name tony from
buffalo and this girl name telsa from canada and my brother willie jones was known
for jabbing with that front leg, I luv chuck and I know of Joe lewis, but outside of
Bruce lee, Superfoot wallace is the man for head kicks,I and I love to kick people
@eg2410109 You are the first person other than myself who had enough respect for him to think that. I think it wouldv'e been a better fight with Bill rather than Chuck in 'Return of the Dragon.
@dobberdoss No, Bill's other leg was damanged years ago by wrestiling. He actually wears a brace on that right leg. But that one leg is so dangeous that both of ours cant' compete with his one.
@dobberdoss Think about it, how can you get to it? You see how Bill kicks. I'm pretty sure others thought of it, but it's like a serpent trying to protect it's tail, or a whip. Figure of speech. But who can get to it. Jackie Chan couldn't, ha ha. Good thought especially when we're not in the ring or on the court.
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you never kick someone unless your 100% sure they wont see it coming. if they do and grab your leg and take you to the ground they break it off and beat you with it for a couple minutes... your fucked.
I agree, kicking leaves very open, no matter what you do, but it works for kick boxing, would use it in a street fight, Bill wallace makes it look so graceful, like he could eat dinner with just his toes as fingers!
This technique is perfect to train balance, timing, fake attacks to open counterattacks, the same goals as you need in MMA. Of course you can't apply it the same way but it's a perfect hip motion trainning to improve your high roundhouse kicks.
@jessevoidable a heel kick can hold a lot of power if thrown properly. iv seen guys get knocked out with front leg hook kicks with feet and head gear. a lot of MMA spectators and fighters dont throw any hook kicks or sidekicks because they havent seen them been used. its still a new sport and will continue to evolve. once some1 in the ufc kos some1 with a hook kick or breaks a rib with a side kick you will start seeing them used. just like when pette koed coleman. people thought. wow those work!
@poolboyinla just because you havent seen a hook kick used properly doesnt mean it cant work. once some1 lands a hook kick and kos some1 in the ufc, people will say, SHIT! THAT KICK DOES WORK! just like pette williams on mark coleman! mma is still evolving!
I think you can apply any technique to for full contact or Muay Thai. Just got have the skills for both and adapt. Open mindedness not closed mindedness!!
bfolks ur statement is ok, my point was that this move is pretty risky if u r in a muay thai fight cause your opponent can counter with a low kick, but u r right if u know what u r doing it could work, the best way to find out does it work for u or not is in a sparring session . anyway this move is more a surprise attack so if u r good with your legs and very flexible it could be effective...give it a try and post a comment afterwards, it doesnt work for me it looks cool but i dont like it.
Of course you can apply the technique in both full contact (FC) and MT bouts. That's not the real issue though.
This may work well in point fighting bouts. But, in an FC or MT bouts, this technique will leave you wide open for a counter from your opponent.
You slap your opponent with a light, albeit fast hook kick; he counters you with a kick to the thigh or knee area. Or he could even sweep away your supporting leg.
A kick to the leg will do you more damage than your light hook kick. : )
He trained in Shorin-ryu Karate. Shorin is the pronunciation of the Chinese Shaolin in Hogun. Shōrin-ryū ("small forest") reflects the Chinese influences intrinsic to the art. Wikipedia says so, not my invention.
he was a very good points fighter and fair full contact one but I lost a lot of repect for him over his stance on mma.He was a commentator (a useless one) on the first ufc and then subsequently slated it as being bad for martial arts since what he was teaching was obviously not working in the cage.
Actually, many traditional martial artists or fighters who like to think of themselves as practicing traditional MA are not really fond of MMA.
That's just their views. They have as much rights as the others who do support MMA.
My take on Superfoot's stand -- just leave him be. He's already achieved so much in his prime years. MMA is an entirely new ball game to him. That's all. : )
bill hasnt done traditional martial arts in decades,he teaches sport karate .He also has wrestled and done judo competitively in his youth so youd think he would appreciate imcreased reality.
Yes, you're right. I'm quite aware of those facts too.
But, American sports karate and Judo to a certain extent have roots in traditional martial systems; the Asian martial cultures specifically.
As for wrestling, in a way, it can be traced back to combative system that has been in practice for a long time. It is in a way, a traditional martial or combative system.
Ironically enough, back then before MMA -- and the UFC in particular -- became household names, traditional martial artists had already developed a strong dislike toward those who place too much emphasis on the sporting aspects of MA.
All these things aside, the term traditional when applied to MMA, is not so much about the sporting vs pragmatic, combative-oriented mentality.
But, it encompasses many different facets that cause individuals like Bill Wallace and even Benny Urquidez among others, to perceive current MMA as somewhat diluted and not representing the true spirit of martial arts.
Frank Shamrock has expressed similar opinions which echo more or less the same ideas as Bill Wallace's.
My friends know I do tkd and we sometimes goof off. They try to catch my foot but have problem doing it. The closes they get to catching any technique is lead side kick or lead round kick. When I throw a hook they can't figure out how to catch it. Only way to catch a hook kick is to run into your oppenent, get pass his knee and catch the thigh. If you are lucky the kick may get hung on your shoulder for you to grab. Trying to grab the foot; it won't even work.
i threw kicks in a real fight. got my foot grabbed and used a spinning handstand kick to his face. If I study martial arts then what u get u get. The kid i was fighting was grabbing my hair, my shirt, scratching me, and somehow me being able to high kick( not stomp) wasnt fair.I didn't beat him up because he didnt deal enough power to deal dmg. Wasn't worth it. He was crying after and said hed break my leg if i ever did it again( provided he knows how to break a leg?)
Most people don't train properly to be able to throw a hook kick anywhere as good as Wallace, even at 63. As for catching a hook kick, unlikely. Bill knocked Bernd Grothe out in 74 with pretty much this move. True hook kicks aren't for most people, neither are most high kicks...but actually they DO work in real fights, if trained properly. Terry O Neill (shotokan) had over 50 knockouts as a doorman in LIverpool with head kicks.
I cant recall anybody ever 'catching' a Wallace kick to be honest.
No offense, but although Wallace definitely decked Grothe with a hook kick in their 1974 match (which Wallace of course won) the kick didn't KO the German fighter. Re. catching Bill's kicks, I agree -- he was just too dang fast:). You're right about high kicks in real fights. If you HAVE them (and IF they're first-rate) they can be very effective weapons. I remember Al Cheeks, for example, describing how he'd ended a street fight by kicking his attacker in the head --
I'm not saying the hook would knock out someone in MMA but it's a good training to find balance, hip motion, and improve your roundhouse high kick and why not spining hook kick -this one knocked some guys in MMA bouts-. On the streets is another world, brain's adrenaline discharge causes your legs feel heavy and slow if you hesitate.
Yup, I agree with your comment about the reduced, overall sense of coordination on the streets.
And precisely because of such a natural condition, many "enlightened" martial artists or simply pragmatic fighters train themselves to be ready for the streets.
The whole idea is based on the premise that, if you're used to feel relaxed and calm in training, there's a good chance that you won't hesitate to simply act accordingly when you're confronted with a real altercation on the streets.
When I said "first-rate," I meant fast and powerful. I said nothing about KOs, so you're attacking a straw man there. You seem to assume that a fight can't be ended by anything except a KO. But if you hit your opponent so that he cannot prevent your departure, isn't that enough?
Well, I was using the term knockout (KO) in a much broader sense.
Essentially, I was emphasizing on the importance of having a forceful kick instead of just hitting with a light one.
Specifically, in the context of Bill Wallace's video, I tried to highlight on his chosen technique ie a lead leg, hook kick.
Of course a knockout isn't the only objective a fighter aims for in a fight. But I strongly believe that most if not all fighters wouldn't mind to have that capacity to KO his opponent. : )
@iainmcgeachy To be fair, the full-contact kickboxing rules of the time didn't reward it. If he'd fought in san da, for example, it would undoubtedly have happened.
you would not make it 2 kicks against a real fighter... Im ROFL
tom021083 5 days ago
I'd like to know if those kicks could transfer to MMA?
canon5D007 1 week ago
I would pity the "street fighter" that tried to take on Bill. The funny thing is those light and fluffy looking kicks he throws all have knockout potential, as he proved when he won his kickboxing title.
daolong51279 1 week ago
Bill Rules
mrthebillman 1 month ago
even though he's just demonstrating, that speed is ridiculous
carmodifire 1 month ago
It's not difficult to make the distinction that this is for sports, not real combat. As such, it's great technique from an awesome martial artist! I'm a self-protection instructor AND a martial artist - the differences are important. If anyone's going to get into a debate or criticise a video then I would recommend learning the differences between traditional MA, combat sports, self-defence and self-protection.
CSPSmedia 1 month ago
yes please, people understand that neither kickboxing nor mma are "street" combat systems. you can't safely clinch an opponent on the street. you can't repeatedly high kick people on the forearms to make them "lower their guard". in the street, the most important thing is that you know how to a. keep your head and b. control your flinch reflex. beyond that, any training will help, but sports are not specifically designed to be street effective!!
ubersum1 2 months ago
@ubersum1 It depends on the persons involved. The avg person does not know how to properly fight, and if pitted against someone who is active in MA, chances are avg person will lose . There's tons of videos on the net that show camera footage of real fights where people display obvious martial arts training and win. like the Karate teacher KO'ing the pimp, the Kung Fu guy that KO'd a thug, the BJJ guy who choked a dude out at a gas station, even a UFC fighter got into street fight and KO'd guy.
codylong1980 1 month ago
@codylong1980 my point was that kickboxing and other sports are designed FOR kickboxing and other sports. though they will help on the street. i actually said at the end of my post that "any training will help" - what i mean by that is exactly what you have said. ANY combat training will help on the street, because yes, most people haven't trained in anything. something > nothing.
ubersum1 1 month ago
Super Foot Wallace is a kickboxing legend !
TheMagneto187 3 months ago
looking for that dvd now
supersman2000 4 months ago
ON THE SLOW MOTION BITS U CAN REALLY SEE HIS ARMS FLYING ALL OVER THE PLACE, SAY THE KICK GOES WRONG UR FACE IS COMPLETLY OPEN, NOT GOOD, GOOD KICK THOUGH
JDFightingFilms 5 months ago
@JDFightingFilms I guess his competition results speak louder than his demonstration.
matbroomfield 4 months ago
@JDFightingFilms lol just came from looking at your vid it not bad but it not great and your talking about a man that have made it way to the top in kickboxing even at his age he still can kick your butt
anthalas1 3 months ago
@JDFightingFilms your not looking at the distancing of his head, he is leaning back as he throws the kick. Do you really trhink you could attack sumone at the same time getting kicked in the face or are you actually gunna block? You could try both but you would be pritty damn good to pull both of at once.
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@JDFightingFilms it is too hard to maintain ballance when you are kicking so high...that s why his arms are flying.....fighters who are very but vert stretched they can keep their arms in guard.....even so this guy is stretched, but he is not holding his guard...if u are stretched enough you must just practise to hold guard, I saw many good kickboxers doing lowkicks and when they do it their arms are flying..they open their guard...... bcs they dont have balance when they are doing leg kicks...
TheFudokan 3 months ago
@TheFudokan dude, u throw the opposite arm to get power in your kick. Check thai boxing techniques
wushuollie 3 weeks ago
@wushuollie Yes..it is true.....with that you get more power in that kick and you can kick with all power weight, which is very powerfull than just leg....I dont know did you understand me bcs my english is not so good....
TheFudokan 3 weeks ago
cool guy
19grand 5 months ago
i met him today ;)
yarida25 5 months ago
I only wish I could manage to kick that high...
redsoxfinatic77 5 months ago
Too hard to do in a real situation.
ZombieDeathKick 5 months ago
first of all its really great but i have to add if you are able to do this move you probably dont need to watch this on youtube :)
eabjj 5 months ago
Can you fight with muay thai sir. hahahahahah
jirapanwar 6 months ago
i like ur kick trick..thx
v13babush 6 months ago
if your opponent loses balance attack his leg not his head.
moxigen 6 months ago
superBUTT
metronic01 6 months ago
To be able to do this kind of fighting, you have to be super flexible and super fast. I'm sure He could kick ass with this technique but I think that would be very difficult for most people. I'm not hating, its cool to watch- I'm just saying
intuitioninstitution 6 months ago
@intuitioninstitution this technique isn't for most people, but for trained and experienced fighters.
pyromegalomaniac 6 months ago
@pyromegalomaniac okay boss
intuitioninstitution 6 months ago
Is it me or does this guy looks like Dio with short hair?
DonnyBearify 6 months ago
@DonnyBearify it is you! lol
Turco949 6 months ago
how do i improve my kicking speed?
alteredoptions 6 months ago
@alteredoptions kick....alot
stonertalk420 6 months ago
@alteredoptions Try practicing with lots of reps on a heavy bag. Air kicking for reps is really hard on your knees
intuitioninstitution 6 months ago
Got it!!!
12345iheartpuppies 6 months ago
the kid showed us how to block it at 1:25...oops XD
geththu 6 months ago
for the second kick, wouldnt a side kick to the tenders be good?
intuitioninstitution 7 months ago
@intuitioninstitution yea, plus you have better footing doing a sidekick
darkstarfear 6 months ago
and people are still wondering why his nickname is superfoot!!!!
chimaera1855 7 months ago
Legend is not even a fitting name for this man, sad he did not do more movies, loved him as a bad guy in the protector with Jackie Chan
yannickmessaoud 8 months ago 9
I want to be as fit as him but at my age...which is now... ;)
SkuntFak 8 months ago
This technique is for competition, people, dont comment that street nonsense. Superfoot is a supreme athlete, respect that¡¡
lececamara 8 months ago 18
That kid got wooped.
carzohaib567 8 months ago
Nice to see beautiful technique being executed correctly. Good work!Totally agree with you badgers 1975, an inspiration to us all. Currently out of the game with herniated disc. Time, patience and luck .
mylovelyman2 8 months ago
Nice moves! Such control
rockhoward224 8 months ago
I met Bill and Joe Lewis at the martial arts show in birmingham a couple of weeks ago. you would struggle to find two nicer men, more willing to show what they know and to teach. But my god they can still move. There are alot of martial arts "stars" who could learn a hell of alot from them
badgers1975 8 months ago
this would only work in a controlled situation, but on the street with 6 guys against you well running is still a good option.
Tonystarkes888 8 months ago
px09 baby..lol
fnpevil 9 months ago
Tommy Lee Jones
fuckoffplan 9 months ago
/watch?v=tI69stoIu2c&feature=related go to sec 48, thats what he is demonstrating here.
camius1 9 months ago
Sweeeet
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theroadhouse1989 9 months ago
he doesnt look out of balance!
TheRick16v 9 months ago
Isn't this full-contact ?
capoeira2brazil 10 months ago
@capoeira2brazil this is for the purpose of demo, he wants to show hoe to do the move notknock out his opponent.
toxi87 8 months ago
@toxi87 that was not my question was it? :)
capoeira2brazil 8 months ago
@capoeira2brazil i guess not, but yeah when he was fighting it was full contact.
toxi87 8 months ago
@toxi87 Thank you very much for the responding :).
capoeira2brazil 8 months ago
@capoeira2brazil you are welcome sir
toxi87 8 months ago
Imaginen estas peleas, en el mejor momento de: Superfoot vs. Jean Claude Van Damme; Huo Yuanjia vs. Bruce Lee; Oyama vs. Choi Hong Hi; Rickson Gracie vs. Kimura; Royce Gracie vs. Wally Jay; Frank Dux vs. Joe Lewis; Joe Louis vs. Muhammad Ali; Euclides Santana vs. Bas Rutten; Chuck Norris vs. Ken Shamrok; Helio Gracie vs. Gene Lebell; Nai Khanomtom vs. Bai Yu Feng; Rei Zulu vs. Fedor Emilianenko.
rbrtdornel 10 months ago
@rbrtdornel...Lucha de Titanes seria eso...
nicotaboada 10 months ago
who has been here several times world champion kickboxing?
TheKickeur 10 months ago
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he looks like george w. bush young aged before he became alcoholic
MrCubano666 10 months ago
he looks like george w. bush young aged before he became alcoholic
MrCubano666 10 months ago
hook kick in this scenario is a very slow counter. If u wanna trick your opponent and make him charge after pretending to be unbalanced, thats fine, but counter that charge with a spining back kick into his ribs. thats the fastest and the most effective in this scenario
crazzywasp 10 months ago
very dangerous move. fighting against someone who knows he would have been desstroyed doing that move. hope no one trys this. i have been training in many combat arts since i was 5 and this is not something i would advise anyone to try. maybe in point sparring or something of that nature or even an off balance street fighter you may be able to pull off something like this but in a circle of real fighters you can be barely hurt. even from that first kick he used. no disrespect intended.
buddhamonkk 10 months ago
If this guy is such a big legend, didn`t he hear anything about defense? If a left high kick from an oponent were to come at 1:38, he would sleep for an year and meditate on his stupid technics. I practice kickboxing since 12 years old and the first rule when hiting with the leg is to protect your chin whin the oposant arm. All of you are impressed in how high he can hit but you don`t know anything about fighting.
bobok132010 10 months ago
... that kick would be completely useless, the strength behind it comes only from your legs while the punch goes from the legs to a twisting motion up towards the body. If you both hit, you'll be hurt more, plus you have one leg off the ground, getting hit would not be fun.
hellarkie 10 months ago
@hellarkie If you do the combo like the way he demostrates it, there is very little chance of getting that punch in. From the side view, it looks like he could connect with the punch, but the shoulder actually does protect his head. If you have strong legs, a front leg hook kick is very potent, offensively and defensively, one of my favorites
Elurin 10 months ago
@Elurin Well i guess it can work in kickboxing but the way he showed it is confusing... he said that he can see the punch so automatically goes for a hook kick therefore imo no power... but if used defensively it would be more useful just to shock the guy similar to a light jab. Though it is also riskier having one leg off the ground so high 1:08 you can see that even he went off balance from the kick. Plus... isn't that guy dropping his hands too much?....
hellarkie 10 months ago
thats an mawasahi and uramawasahi in karate
VarfdeMunte22 10 months ago
could it make sense to fake round house and then actual roundhouse with the other leg?
deathreaper10 11 months ago
@deathreaper10 it would if you're smaller and faster than your opponent; i know, for me, that wouldn't work so well since im kinda big. actually just tried the combo at home and its not too bad if you keep the actual roundhouse at mid-section and if its more of a Dollyo Chagi than a Mawashi Geri, the taekwondo variety is simpler and faster. Really depends on what your opponent is doing too, . if you open with a jab to the head to draw his block up then go for the fake+roundhouse combo
Elurin 10 months ago
I love this guy.
Mr007batman 1 year ago
Why would anyone dislike this video?
SierraCrane 1 year ago
His tapes are good, if you want to go into point fighting.
ramrod20042000 1 year ago
@ramrod20042000 You realize he is a kickboxing legend, right? As in full contact.
GreenGold33 1 year ago
@GreenGold33 Wallace was a legend in his time. A champion at middle weight(160lbs) in PKA. Full contact Karate. Not Kickboxing as in K1. Wallace had a bad right leg and could not handle leg kicks.
ramrod20042000 1 year ago
@ramrod20042000 So? Leg kicks or not, the fact was that he was a full contact fighter.
This stuff is still amazing for developing your kicking skills. You just have to know how to adapt it for what you do. I mean, I personally don't like to leave my leg in the air for more than one good kick, but these exercises give me much more control, power, and speed over any kick I feel like dishing out.
GreenGold33 1 year ago
@GreenGold33 Yes, if you are a point fighter. Your high front leg side,roundhouse & hook kick will approve. Along with your flexibility.If you follow his tapes. But really to win any point tournament. All you need is a front leg side kick,front kick and a reverse punch. Timing is the key
ramrod20042000 1 year ago
Blinky did beat Wallace, and should have gotten the decision, but don't diss the guy and make this a racist thi g. I love All the Urquidez Brothers, and I'm sure even Blinky wouldn't appreciate this diss. Give the man respect he really DID earn it.
TheSubwaysurfer 1 year ago
What a brilliant tactician. And I thought he was just able to hit you because he was stretched and fast. Bill worked out a complete scion e of kicking and came up with it all by himself. Unlike so many other old skull guys, Bills technique always showed up with him in the ring proving thAt he wasn't just blowing smoke.
TheSubwaysurfer 1 year ago
My dad met bill at my dad's old dojo once. He did a standing split against a wall :P this is almost 30 or so years ago if not more. My dad is 60ish mind you :P
JRARJRARMRAR 1 year ago
he may be old but messing with this guy is suicide :P
junyboy5 1 year ago
Yes that works, but ONLY if he try to punch you, if he's gonna kick ya, that won't be workin' ;)
Adgang123 1 year ago
@Adgang123 might against a headheight frostkick :3
veshkeat 1 year ago
im so flexiple at i can do that maby 1\3 of it
moonisveri 1 year ago
I Cannot wait... im going to a seminar with this guy in 1 1/2 months in new york
TheKraken62395 1 year ago
Man if Master Wallace only had a right leg to go with his left he would be know as the greatest not just one of the greats
He could also use that same decoy kick to deliver a killer rib cracking back kick with the right if he could kick with the right. But he was AWESOME with just one leg none the less.
CASteel1 1 year ago
@CASteel1 Excellent point about the back kick combo. Thanks man. That's a pretty creative and effectively useful idea. I will try it when I am a little more used to point fighting.
KMHRocker 1 year ago
@KMHRocker Hope it helps.
CASteel1 1 year ago
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CASteel1 1 year ago
look how open he is when he does the first kick
chooseit2 1 year ago
bill wallace is joke, blinky beat the shit out of him but got robbed by the judges. he is arrogant guy but the public loved him because he was the face of american kickboxing. at the time
addko14 1 year ago
@addko14 We would love to see the video, & you're entiled to your opinion. I'm a fan of Bill. I heard Blinky was good. Do you have or know where to watch the video? Thanks.
rickames 1 year ago
I LOVE THIS MAN!!! HE'S NASTY WITH HIS FEET!
1974Key 1 year ago
Awesome!
FRANKMANNACO700 1 year ago
useless!!!
elbatoranchero 1 year ago
Not useless when Wallace is crackin' your skull with his heel.
ReignzOfBrainz 1 year ago
you are ridiculas, It doesn't even look like you lose your balance. If someone was to fall for that bull, they just cant fight. I would have slamed you on your head if you tried that on me. I'm a mma fighter, so don't think i dont know what im talkin about. I train in muay thai, our main focus is kicks, knees, and elbows. So I am 100 percent that that shit wouldn't work. I probly would if it looked like you realy lost ur balance, but sorry it don't
Kountry351 1 year ago
@Kountry351 dude this guy has his wins to prove it... 23 wins by the time he was 46.
I personally train with a pro MMA fighter... but I'm not a MMA practitioner.
dardrex777 1 year ago
@Kountry351 Dude you are fucking full of shit. Every MMA fighter knows who this guy is, you obviously do not know who he is and obviously are not the MMA fighter you claim to be.
SkeeboDa1 1 year ago
@Kountry351 Easy to say when your watching from the safety of your monitor and its not happening right in front of you. If it was that easy to knockout Wallace, pro fighters would have done so years ago.
SamuiHakai 1 year ago
bill inspired me to be number one jr lightweight point karate, I could kick from the left to right side with either leg, everbody wanted to kick like him, this kid name tony from
buffalo and this girl name telsa from canada and my brother willie jones was known
for jabbing with that front leg, I luv chuck and I know of Joe lewis, but outside of
Bruce lee, Superfoot wallace is the man for head kicks,I and I love to kick people
in the head at will, true sensei
rastavon 1 year ago
he would beat bruce
eg2410109 1 year ago
@eg2410109 You are the first person other than myself who had enough respect for him to think that. I think it wouldv'e been a better fight with Bill rather than Chuck in 'Return of the Dragon.
rickames 1 year ago
does he kick just as good with the other leg ? limiting your stance also limits your attacks
dobberdoss 1 year ago
apparently he has a bad right leg
wobbygongman 1 year ago
@dobberdoss No, Bill's other leg was damanged years ago by wrestiling. He actually wears a brace on that right leg. But that one leg is so dangeous that both of ours cant' compete with his one.
rickames 1 year ago
@rickames,
but your supporting leg is the most critical! I'd aim for that
dobberdoss 1 year ago
@dobberdoss Think about it, how can you get to it? You see how Bill kicks. I'm pretty sure others thought of it, but it's like a serpent trying to protect it's tail, or a whip. Figure of speech. But who can get to it. Jackie Chan couldn't, ha ha. Good thought especially when we're not in the ring or on the court.
rickames 1 year ago
@rickames,
you can get too it. his leg ain't painted on!
dobberdoss 1 year ago
Man he does that so damn good.
63yogi 1 year ago
finaly someone who knows how to do a roundhouse with their front leg and not using their back leg, nice hook kick
newmanto03 1 year ago
thats right handed left legged for ye.
lygophile 1 year ago
shit i need to work on my flexibility! lol
1337mma 1 year ago
this guy is a legend in american kickboxing,
ric0925 1 year ago 37
@ric0925 wat is his name?
wysiwygbandit 7 months ago
I want to be as fit as He is at that age...which is very soon for me...
essertpitay 1 year ago 20
damn dude
that by comparison look like the killer hurrican!!
that whats i call a technique
5*
bassamry 2 years ago
CRAP! JUST FARTED
TheLibertard 2 years ago
Ahora resulta que todo el mundo prefiere dar low kicks y se olvidaron de esto que precisamente es lo bonito de las artes marciales
neninhocelta 2 years ago
This guy is a real ninja .
if you would think anyone would fight many opponents this might be one option of am an.
TheRogueMonk 2 years ago
This is a pretty cool technique but i lack the mutant flexibility factor to do EITHER of those kicks :P
illegalusername 2 years ago
Well you could probable use the principle and aim for the liver or diaphram.
SungTzu 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
you never kick someone unless your 100% sure they wont see it coming. if they do and grab your leg and take you to the ground they break it off and beat you with it for a couple minutes... your fucked.
bellben 2 years ago
I agree, kicking leaves very open, no matter what you do, but it works for kick boxing, would use it in a street fight, Bill wallace makes it look so graceful, like he could eat dinner with just his toes as fingers!
trombonedemon 2 years ago
@bellben your one of those gracie humpers huh?
1337mma 1 year ago
@1337mma depends on if your moms name is gracie
bellben 1 year ago
thats a new one.
1337mma 1 year ago
But if he had a healthy right leg and if he had a plenty of time learning Muay Thai kicks, he would've been one badass.
JeetKuneDoKa 2 years ago
This technique is perfect to train balance, timing, fake attacks to open counterattacks, the same goals as you need in MMA. Of course you can't apply it the same way but it's a perfect hip motion trainning to improve your high roundhouse kicks.
retrodarth 2 years ago
I can't believe all of his kicks didn't have much power.
JeetKuneDoKa 2 years ago 3
He is amazing with his legs... Thats just wicked!
tensai1001 2 years ago
He kicks to open, maybe predictable moves.
robertvoice 2 years ago
Good technique for point karate...bad technique for MMA.
poolboyinla 2 years ago
bad technicue not just for mma for real fight
mehle3 2 years ago
Bad technique only if you don't have the grace of being flexible, smart, and have a lot of self confidence.
retrodarth 2 years ago
A smart person wouldn't attempt this maneuver in a full charged, full contact bout, much less an MMA match. : )
jessevoidable 2 years ago
@jessevoidable a heel kick can hold a lot of power if thrown properly. iv seen guys get knocked out with front leg hook kicks with feet and head gear. a lot of MMA spectators and fighters dont throw any hook kicks or sidekicks because they havent seen them been used. its still a new sport and will continue to evolve. once some1 in the ufc kos some1 with a hook kick or breaks a rib with a side kick you will start seeing them used. just like when pette koed coleman. people thought. wow those work!
1337mma 1 year ago
@poolboyinla just because you havent seen a hook kick used properly doesnt mean it cant work. once some1 lands a hook kick and kos some1 in the ufc, people will say, SHIT! THAT KICK DOES WORK! just like pette williams on mark coleman! mma is still evolving!
1337mma 1 year ago
Pete Williams only knocked out Mark Coleman because Coleman was too tired to even hold his hands up.
poolboyinla 1 year ago
and people saw that if i round kick lands, it will ko the person. now you see people throwing head kicks all the time.
1337mma 1 year ago
@1337mma but different from his because he picks his knee up and points it at your
head, and you know what they say follows`the foot, and that where the power comes
speed and tech., And notice how he not off balance
rastavon 1 year ago
Nice
masterpervy567 2 years ago
this applys for full contact not for muay thai , the opponent can counter with a low kick ...
lawman1971b 2 years ago 3
I think you can apply any technique to for full contact or Muay Thai. Just got have the skills for both and adapt. Open mindedness not closed mindedness!!
Bfolks84 2 years ago
bfolks ur statement is ok, my point was that this move is pretty risky if u r in a muay thai fight cause your opponent can counter with a low kick, but u r right if u know what u r doing it could work, the best way to find out does it work for u or not is in a sparring session . anyway this move is more a surprise attack so if u r good with your legs and very flexible it could be effective...give it a try and post a comment afterwards, it doesnt work for me it looks cool but i dont like it.
lawman1971b 2 years ago 2
Of course you can apply the technique in both full contact (FC) and MT bouts. That's not the real issue though.
This may work well in point fighting bouts. But, in an FC or MT bouts, this technique will leave you wide open for a counter from your opponent.
You slap your opponent with a light, albeit fast hook kick; he counters you with a kick to the thigh or knee area. Or he could even sweep away your supporting leg.
A kick to the leg will do you more damage than your light hook kick. : )
jessevoidable 2 years ago
He trained in Shorin-ryu Karate. Shorin is the pronunciation of the Chinese Shaolin in Hogun. Shōrin-ryū ("small forest") reflects the Chinese influences intrinsic to the art. Wikipedia says so, not my invention.
robertvoice 2 years ago
he trained american kenpo.
mehle3 2 years ago
When and where?
stevevandien 2 years ago
Superfoot rules.
kirk0respite 2 years ago
he was a very good points fighter and fair full contact one but I lost a lot of repect for him over his stance on mma.He was a commentator (a useless one) on the first ufc and then subsequently slated it as being bad for martial arts since what he was teaching was obviously not working in the cage.
billysue2 2 years ago
Actually, many traditional martial artists or fighters who like to think of themselves as practicing traditional MA are not really fond of MMA.
That's just their views. They have as much rights as the others who do support MMA.
My take on Superfoot's stand -- just leave him be. He's already achieved so much in his prime years. MMA is an entirely new ball game to him. That's all. : )
jessevoidable 2 years ago
bill hasnt done traditional martial arts in decades,he teaches sport karate .He also has wrestled and done judo competitively in his youth so youd think he would appreciate imcreased reality.
billysue2 2 years ago
Yes, you're right. I'm quite aware of those facts too.
But, American sports karate and Judo to a certain extent have roots in traditional martial systems; the Asian martial cultures specifically.
As for wrestling, in a way, it can be traced back to combative system that has been in practice for a long time. It is in a way, a traditional martial or combative system.
jessevoidable 2 years ago
Ironically enough, back then before MMA -- and the UFC in particular -- became household names, traditional martial artists had already developed a strong dislike toward those who place too much emphasis on the sporting aspects of MA.
All these things aside, the term traditional when applied to MMA, is not so much about the sporting vs pragmatic, combative-oriented mentality.
jessevoidable 2 years ago
But, it encompasses many different facets that cause individuals like Bill Wallace and even Benny Urquidez among others, to perceive current MMA as somewhat diluted and not representing the true spirit of martial arts.
Frank Shamrock has expressed similar opinions which echo more or less the same ideas as Bill Wallace's.
jessevoidable 2 years ago
5 stars all the way man this guy has some crazy skills at an age like that
I wouldnt fuck with him and he tells me that through his eyes
bati555 2 years ago
ummmmm. . .what if they go for the sweep instead?
not as awesome a followup anymore
JohnnyV83 2 years ago 2
Very fast kicks, very nice form.
Fun stuff.
MystikBeast 2 years ago
hes tha fucin man dude
siccmad3 2 years ago
My friends know I do tkd and we sometimes goof off. They try to catch my foot but have problem doing it. The closes they get to catching any technique is lead side kick or lead round kick. When I throw a hook they can't figure out how to catch it. Only way to catch a hook kick is to run into your oppenent, get pass his knee and catch the thigh. If you are lucky the kick may get hung on your shoulder for you to grab. Trying to grab the foot; it won't even work.
RDraGon2179 2 years ago
i threw kicks in a real fight. got my foot grabbed and used a spinning handstand kick to his face. If I study martial arts then what u get u get. The kid i was fighting was grabbing my hair, my shirt, scratching me, and somehow me being able to high kick( not stomp) wasnt fair.I didn't beat him up because he didnt deal enough power to deal dmg. Wasn't worth it. He was crying after and said hed break my leg if i ever did it again( provided he knows how to break a leg?)
hakuboshi1 2 years ago
Most people don't train properly to be able to throw a hook kick anywhere as good as Wallace, even at 63. As for catching a hook kick, unlikely. Bill knocked Bernd Grothe out in 74 with pretty much this move. True hook kicks aren't for most people, neither are most high kicks...but actually they DO work in real fights, if trained properly. Terry O Neill (shotokan) had over 50 knockouts as a doorman in LIverpool with head kicks.
I cant recall anybody ever 'catching' a Wallace kick to be honest.
iainmcgeachy 2 years ago 14
No offense, but although Wallace definitely decked Grothe with a hook kick in their 1974 match (which Wallace of course won) the kick didn't KO the German fighter. Re. catching Bill's kicks, I agree -- he was just too dang fast:). You're right about high kicks in real fights. If you HAVE them (and IF they're first-rate) they can be very effective weapons. I remember Al Cheeks, for example, describing how he'd ended a street fight by kicking his attacker in the head --
stevevandien 2 years ago
Fast is one thing, power is another.
Most of the times, a fast thrown kick doesn't really do much damage to the adversary. That in itself, defeats the whole purpose.
eg On the streets, a hook kick executed with a shoe could do more damage compared to one that is thrown barefooted.
The shoes due its rough and sturdy nature, make the knockout possible.
Otherwise, only a powerfully driven kick, the likes of a roundhouse, axe and back thrust kicks could really be relied on to induce a KO.
jessevoidable 2 years ago
I'm not saying the hook would knock out someone in MMA but it's a good training to find balance, hip motion, and improve your roundhouse high kick and why not spining hook kick -this one knocked some guys in MMA bouts-. On the streets is another world, brain's adrenaline discharge causes your legs feel heavy and slow if you hesitate.
retrodarth 2 years ago
Yup, I agree with your comment about the reduced, overall sense of coordination on the streets.
And precisely because of such a natural condition, many "enlightened" martial artists or simply pragmatic fighters train themselves to be ready for the streets.
The whole idea is based on the premise that, if you're used to feel relaxed and calm in training, there's a good chance that you won't hesitate to simply act accordingly when you're confronted with a real altercation on the streets.
jessevoidable 2 years ago
When I said "first-rate," I meant fast and powerful. I said nothing about KOs, so you're attacking a straw man there. You seem to assume that a fight can't be ended by anything except a KO. But if you hit your opponent so that he cannot prevent your departure, isn't that enough?
stevevandien 2 years ago
Well, I was using the term knockout (KO) in a much broader sense.
Essentially, I was emphasizing on the importance of having a forceful kick instead of just hitting with a light one.
Specifically, in the context of Bill Wallace's video, I tried to highlight on his chosen technique ie a lead leg, hook kick.
Of course a knockout isn't the only objective a fighter aims for in a fight. But I strongly believe that most if not all fighters wouldn't mind to have that capacity to KO his opponent. : )
jessevoidable 2 years ago
@iainmcgeachy To be fair, the full-contact kickboxing rules of the time didn't reward it. If he'd fought in san da, for example, it would undoubtedly have happened.
ooogooman 1 year ago
@iainmcgeachy As much as I respect Terry ONeill - Its laughable to pretend anyone but he will verify that story.
jitteryjoe 1 year ago