That is one beautiful early Graphophone! A nice loud cylinder and the announcer shouting to register perhaps into several machines at once is priceless. I llove these early cylinders. I wonder if the flutter was in the original or introduced in the pantograph process? I never get over hearing sounds from what's now two centuries back.
Right now (10-21-2011)"Archive.org" won't work right. I was in the midst of playing some piece I now can't recall when their sound went pfft. This is NOT in my laptop. I will try again on 11-1, but until then I'll explore this part of YouTube. I HOPE Archive.org will fix this botch soon.
I LOVE these lo-fi records full of needle scratch !
Thanks for this wonderful early cylinder. For us history buffs, the introduction alone is worthy of the price of admission. Is this record at 125 RPM's ?
@victrolaman You are very welcome, victrolaman. Always nice to hear from you. I believe I had to adjust the speed of this cylinder down to about 120 rpm. I really enjoy that unusual anouncement as well. It's also neat to hear the announcer's accent for "...Played By The Seventy First Regiment Band..." as "...Played By The Seventy FOYST Regiment Band...." with a good old fashioned "Joyzey" accent! : ) Good to hear you enjoyed this and stop back anytime!
i wish so bad you could tell us about these in some videos! tell us how you came to get them, and some history or information behind it. they are so mysterious and interesting! i love to hear the story behind something. please keep posting! i love your videos!
@digitalblasphemy1100 Thanks for your great comments. I agree with you that it is sometimes interesting to hear the story behind an early item. Perhaps in the future I will include some historical provenance with some of my videos.
@MusicBoxBoy we would like that very much! i am not a collector of specifics but a wide range of antiques and older vintage items. your viewers would love to hear you talk about the items. maybe you could do a tour of your collection in seperate parts? thanks so much and keep up the videos! i come back everyday to see if you have uploaded new ones!
I just learned about wax cylinder recordings for the first time today, and I'm just so amazed at the simplicity yet the complexity of these early recordings. Thanks for posting, great stuff!
@hammondmania Thanks very much for the nice comment. It's always refreshing to hear appreciative comments like yours as these very early brown wax cylinders are incredibly difficult to find in good playing condition.
got this same machine but IT WAS STORED FOR 3 YEARS BEFORE I KNEW ABOUT IT and pot metal disaster set in so mine is CRAP and its gone even i cant fix anything on it im not to mad but wouldve made a darn good peice for me but ohwell got alot of edisons so im not complaining
Try not to give up on the old Columbia Graphophones even if the pot metal is seized up good and tight. As long as the top casting is not misshapen (twisted out of shape - believe me I've seen one like this!) there is hope. Unlike music boxes, many phonograph parts are being reproduced including those for Columbias. If you're going to toss it toss it my way! : )
@MusicBoxBoy well mine has the ornate cabinet and the casting is good great motor but i need the reprodicer rideing arm got 5 reproducers so no need on those about 10 edison reproducers where should i get the riding arm? your machine is older than mine the ornate case came later got any ideas and were should i get the horn arm for my victor type B a VERY rare machine so less of an option it has a metal arm not the wood one i need so any ideas i would love to knwo thanks
Um... not to burst your bubble and granted I don't know diddly about gramophones, but this machine says it's made by the Columbia Phonograph Co. on the decal label. You said this is an Edison. Something isn't kosher here. O_O
If you read the description for this video you will see that I indicate that this is "a historic Edison brown wax cylinder" and later in the description, "I selected one of my Columbia AT Graphophones to play this early cylinder". Your confusion would have been removed by carefully reading the description. Thank you for your comment.
@SpiritBear12 Brown wax cylinders were standardized, that is they were made for the same mandrel size, and record speed, that is they would play on machines of Edison or Columbia make, the records were 100 grooves per inch. This is an Edison record played on a Columbia Graphophone machine. Columbia even used Edison blanks from 1889-1896 by early 1897 Columbia made its own blanks.
Edison also used pot metal on some reproducers and the mandrel bearings on his later cylinder phonograph models (models 'D", "E" and "F" as I recall) which also caused the cylinder mandrels to seize up good and tight. But, generally speaking, Edison used very little pot metal for the parts in his machines.
Wonderful to see your comments. It's very peaceful for me to do exactly that...listen to these ancient recordings and lapse back in time to imagine the home, the setting and the people who originally bought and enjoyed them.
i have a AT fthat is almost the same as urs mine has an ornate case but do u kno were i can find the part the connects all reproducing parts all of the parts that play the record on my a swollon and cracked please if u know anybody who can help let me know thanks
Nice brown wax recording, This one dates from around 95 or 96, that greay period before National, but after North American. Columbia Machines are very pretty, and have interesting motors, but as you said, not rugged as Edison machines. I make the same kind of blanks that this record is made on.
Sounds amazing! So loud too and clearer than i expected for a 111 yr old roll! I have but one roll a blue Amberol from 1912 . I find these machines so fascinating....Is it electric or wind up? Does the wax roll have grooves that moves the carriage along? or does it track itself and just play the groove....sorry for all the questions! Thanks for sharing!
The cylinder plays by means of lowering a threaded half nut onto a corresponding threaded shaft and the combination of the two moves the carriage. This is a spring wound model. Thanks for your comments.
You are right. Edisons tend to be rugged and utilitarian whereas Columbias were designed with customer eye appeal in mind. Unfortunately, Columbia liked to use pot metal (which swelled and cracked) in some of their carriage movement parts which proved to be a blunder and a bane for an otherwise fine quality machine. Thanks for your comment.
Thanks for your nice comments Turkeydoodlers. I try to post what I hope is an interesting mix of music box, phonograph and player piano videos and I usually don't decide which type until about 5 minutes before I record it! : ) I'll be looking for your player piano videos in the future. Stop back again anytime.
nice piece of music i have one brown wax cal stewart uncle josh at the statue of liberty one of my favorites
spike6060 1 month ago
That is one beautiful early Graphophone! A nice loud cylinder and the announcer shouting to register perhaps into several machines at once is priceless. I llove these early cylinders. I wonder if the flutter was in the original or introduced in the pantograph process? I never get over hearing sounds from what's now two centuries back.
eclecticdufus 2 months ago
i wish i had that graphophone!!
kirtley2010 3 months ago
Right now (10-21-2011)"Archive.org" won't work right. I was in the midst of playing some piece I now can't recall when their sound went pfft. This is NOT in my laptop. I will try again on 11-1, but until then I'll explore this part of YouTube. I HOPE Archive.org will fix this botch soon.
I LOVE these lo-fi records full of needle scratch !
EmmetEarwax 4 months ago
lovely beautiful piece of machinary
i doubt my apple mac will still work in 113 years times
misanthropicagenda1 4 months ago
@misanthropicagenda1 Thanks for the nice comments!
MusicBoxBoy 4 months ago
Thanks for this wonderful early cylinder. For us history buffs, the introduction alone is worthy of the price of admission. Is this record at 125 RPM's ?
victrolaman 5 months ago
@victrolaman You are very welcome, victrolaman. Always nice to hear from you. I believe I had to adjust the speed of this cylinder down to about 120 rpm. I really enjoy that unusual anouncement as well. It's also neat to hear the announcer's accent for "...Played By The Seventy First Regiment Band..." as "...Played By The Seventy FOYST Regiment Band...." with a good old fashioned "Joyzey" accent! : ) Good to hear you enjoyed this and stop back anytime!
MusicBoxBoy 5 months ago
i wish so bad you could tell us about these in some videos! tell us how you came to get them, and some history or information behind it. they are so mysterious and interesting! i love to hear the story behind something. please keep posting! i love your videos!
digitalblasphemy1100 5 months ago in playlist More videos from MusicBoxBoy
@digitalblasphemy1100 Thanks for your great comments. I agree with you that it is sometimes interesting to hear the story behind an early item. Perhaps in the future I will include some historical provenance with some of my videos.
MusicBoxBoy 5 months ago
@MusicBoxBoy we would like that very much! i am not a collector of specifics but a wide range of antiques and older vintage items. your viewers would love to hear you talk about the items. maybe you could do a tour of your collection in seperate parts? thanks so much and keep up the videos! i come back everyday to see if you have uploaded new ones!
digitalblasphemy1100 5 months ago
I just learned about wax cylinder recordings for the first time today, and I'm just so amazed at the simplicity yet the complexity of these early recordings. Thanks for posting, great stuff!
jameskornelsenmusic 6 months ago
@jameskornelsenmusic You are very welcome!
MusicBoxBoy 6 months ago
I love the old stuff. Thank you so much for posting!
shortyblackwelll 6 months ago
@shortyblackwelll You are very welcome, Me too! Thank you for stopping in.
MusicBoxBoy 6 months ago
Thank you so much for posting! A real treasure
barcalonga 9 months ago
@barcalonga You're very welcome. Thanks for the nice comments.
MusicBoxBoy 9 months ago
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VERY interesting ! ! ! -- Excellent video quality !
chiparoo222 9 months ago
Teddy's voice is priceless here! He'd hardly got recorded on Disc,so this is a rare find,indeed! THANX,MusicBoxBoy!
mrmjb1960 9 months ago
whether it be working bad or good, i like to see these babies play!!!!
rweerakkody4565 1 year ago
@rweerakkody4565 Me too! Thanks for the nice comment.
MusicBoxBoy 1 year ago
What a superb, clear sounding brown wax cylinder.
hammondmania 1 year ago
@hammondmania Thanks very much for the nice comment. It's always refreshing to hear appreciative comments like yours as these very early brown wax cylinders are incredibly difficult to find in good playing condition.
MusicBoxBoy 1 year ago
got this same machine but IT WAS STORED FOR 3 YEARS BEFORE I KNEW ABOUT IT and pot metal disaster set in so mine is CRAP and its gone even i cant fix anything on it im not to mad but wouldve made a darn good peice for me but ohwell got alot of edisons so im not complaining
edisonphonographfan 1 year ago
Try not to give up on the old Columbia Graphophones even if the pot metal is seized up good and tight. As long as the top casting is not misshapen (twisted out of shape - believe me I've seen one like this!) there is hope. Unlike music boxes, many phonograph parts are being reproduced including those for Columbias. If you're going to toss it toss it my way! : )
MusicBoxBoy 1 year ago
@MusicBoxBoy well mine has the ornate cabinet and the casting is good great motor but i need the reprodicer rideing arm got 5 reproducers so no need on those about 10 edison reproducers where should i get the riding arm? your machine is older than mine the ornate case came later got any ideas and were should i get the horn arm for my victor type B a VERY rare machine so less of an option it has a metal arm not the wood one i need so any ideas i would love to knwo thanks
jonathan
edisonphonographfan 1 year ago
this is just amazing :) such simple technology yet still so clever.
jamaicob 1 year ago
Um... not to burst your bubble and granted I don't know diddly about gramophones, but this machine says it's made by the Columbia Phonograph Co. on the decal label. You said this is an Edison. Something isn't kosher here. O_O
SpiritBear12 2 years ago
If you read the description for this video you will see that I indicate that this is "a historic Edison brown wax cylinder" and later in the description, "I selected one of my Columbia AT Graphophones to play this early cylinder". Your confusion would have been removed by carefully reading the description. Thank you for your comment.
MusicBoxBoy 2 years ago
@SpiritBear12 Brown wax cylinders were standardized, that is they were made for the same mandrel size, and record speed, that is they would play on machines of Edison or Columbia make, the records were 100 grooves per inch. This is an Edison record played on a Columbia Graphophone machine. Columbia even used Edison blanks from 1889-1896 by early 1897 Columbia made its own blanks.
darksound1973 1 year ago
You said that Columbia liked to use pot metal for their parts on these machines. What kind of metal did Edison machines use?
SpiritBear12 2 years ago
Edison also used pot metal on some reproducers and the mandrel bearings on his later cylinder phonograph models (models 'D", "E" and "F" as I recall) which also caused the cylinder mandrels to seize up good and tight. But, generally speaking, Edison used very little pot metal for the parts in his machines.
MusicBoxBoy 2 years ago
very interesting
i agree with you 100% about how this can take you
back in time,i often wonder who listened to these
and what their lives and homes were like.wonderful
that these can still be around more than a century
after they were made
chompo7 2 years ago
Wonderful to see your comments. It's very peaceful for me to do exactly that...listen to these ancient recordings and lapse back in time to imagine the home, the setting and the people who originally bought and enjoyed them.
MusicBoxBoy 2 years ago
Thank you for the interesting comment! I'm pleased that you enjoyed this. Please stop in again anytime.
MusicBoxBoy 2 years ago
i have a AT fthat is almost the same as urs mine has an ornate case but do u kno were i can find the part the connects all reproducing parts all of the parts that play the record on my a swollon and cracked please if u know anybody who can help let me know thanks
j
edisonphonographfan 2 years ago
Nice brown wax recording, This one dates from around 95 or 96, that greay period before National, but after North American. Columbia Machines are very pretty, and have interesting motors, but as you said, not rugged as Edison machines. I make the same kind of blanks that this record is made on.
darksound1973 2 years ago
Sounds amazing! So loud too and clearer than i expected for a 111 yr old roll! I have but one roll a blue Amberol from 1912 . I find these machines so fascinating....Is it electric or wind up? Does the wax roll have grooves that moves the carriage along? or does it track itself and just play the groove....sorry for all the questions! Thanks for sharing!
vinylelvis1 2 years ago
The cylinder plays by means of lowering a threaded half nut onto a corresponding threaded shaft and the combination of the two moves the carriage. This is a spring wound model. Thanks for your comments.
MusicBoxBoy 2 years ago
Wow! The style between the Edison phonographs are different between form the Columbia phonographs!
EnerG15 2 years ago
You are right. Edisons tend to be rugged and utilitarian whereas Columbias were designed with customer eye appeal in mind. Unfortunately, Columbia liked to use pot metal (which swelled and cracked) in some of their carriage movement parts which proved to be a blunder and a bane for an otherwise fine quality machine. Thanks for your comment.
MusicBoxBoy 2 years ago
I always look forward to your videos, nice machine there.
im going to start putting my player pianos on here soon
Turkeydoodlers 2 years ago
Thanks for your nice comments Turkeydoodlers. I try to post what I hope is an interesting mix of music box, phonograph and player piano videos and I usually don't decide which type until about 5 minutes before I record it! : ) I'll be looking for your player piano videos in the future. Stop back again anytime.
MusicBoxBoy 2 years ago
Wow great song and what a nice machine!
Thanks
edisonphonographs 2 years ago
You are very welcome. And thank you for the nice comments!
MusicBoxBoy 2 years ago
Thanks for sharing this.
geriatricguru 2 years ago
My pleasure. And thank you for your comment!
MusicBoxBoy 2 years ago
absolutely amazing.
i love it.
thanks
RagtimeFreak86 2 years ago
You are very welcome! I'm pleased that you enjoyed this. Thanks for stopping in!
MusicBoxBoy 2 years ago
What a beautiful phonograph! I am always fascinated by the sound of brown wax cylinders, and this one is in excellent condition.
EdisonSquirrel 2 years ago
Thanks so much for your gracious comments, Rocky! Please stop back anytime
MusicBoxBoy 2 years ago