yeah, see, the problem is, politics are not for venting your grief on law abiding citizens by proposing inane legislation that is unconstutional. When will she get it ?
You can put lipstick on a pig..Progressive and Pig, a definite connection. I am a NY'er, believe me I'm not proud of these reps. SHE must go, Gillibandt must go, "just a little porky" Schumer must go. We, the People are fed up and sick to death of the bullshit. It alludes me how blinded these people are. Facts are facts. SIX people were killed, 19 WOUNDED.Folks, if every lawful citizen was packing that day, Ferguson would have been stopped at 1 or 2, instead 25 were shot.
You see this lady wants to ban guns because her husband, and child were killed "with" a gun. But they were killed "by" a nigger. How about a nigger ban?
Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other side. Why is a male nigger 6 six times more likely to go to prison than a white male? Because that is who commits the crimes.
If I had a dog as stupid as Carolyn McCarthy I'd bring it to the pound and have it put down as mercy euthanasia. I mean this. She is downright stupid.
McCarthy doesn't know what a barrel shroud is and BANNED IT !!!!! when she was confronted by reporter asking what a barrel shroud is she says "its a should thing that goes up" OWNED !!! she also thinks tracer rounds are incendiary that are HEAT SEEKING that would COOK a deer.
me me me me thats all this lady cares about, My brother in law was shot and killed a year ago, And i know it was not the guns fault, AHHHH How do people like this get into office.
so in other words fuck upstate NY, everything has to go by what the "city" wants. That ugly old bag might want to stay down there in NYC. Maybe Upstate should get rid of the whole fucking island down there or just turn it into a parking lot and give the statue of liberty to Jersey.
i guess cars cause drive by shootings, cars cause drunk driving, cars cause vehicular homicide, accidents,drag racing on the streets. so what do we do next you liberal dickheads,ban cars?
Keep your "personal issue" out of my legislation. I don't have to abide by shit because you "feel" one way or another. Popular consensus rules, and the popular consensus is that you're cause is losing ground.
Fight the CRIMINALS that do things like the man who killed your husband. Leave ME the fuck alone.
If you are the victim of a gun-crime, you have 2 possible regrets: "BAD GUNS" or "Damn, wish I'd had a gun..." More people like #2.
Well it was not a flash hider it was a barrel shroud, but none the less she is just like the brady's someone she loves was shot so the answer ban the damn things. What a joke
I love it. Finally a Senator who satisfies the needs of most of New York. I will NEVER live in New York because of NYC. McCarthy is an outdated shriveled bitch who got in over her husband's dead body.
please don't judge all ny'ers based on this igorant woman (although schumer etal give us all a bad name). 15 YEARS is a mighty long time to hold this position based on sympathy votes.
What she, and many others, refuse to see, if every lawful citizen on that train was packing, her husband might well be alive today. Gillibrand sucker punched all who supported her locally. THEY BOTH MUST GO, THEY BOTH WILL GO. As for referring to herself as "Progressive," makes her label all the worse.
Thats too funny. Washed up Carolyn McCarthy who accomplished nothing in years in congress is going to challenge dynamic, intelligent, photogenic rising star kristin Gillibrand for her senate seat. Im sure Kristin is shaking in her boots lol.
The long island shooter did carolyn mccarthys husband a favor by killing him , so that poor man wouldnt have to look at this dried prune of a c+nt for the rest of his life. I only hope Carloyn McCarthy gets c*nt cancer and her clit becomes a tumorous mass
This old woman's mind is so warped with misinformation that she can not distinguish between a criminal with an illegal gun and members of the NRA which are law abiding American citizens with a RIGHT to bear arms. She is a pathetic example of what is nothing more than a self-serving political agenda. So your husband got shot by a criminal 15 years ago, tough shit, get over it.
The enormous spike in gun sales in recent months is a clear indicator that Americans intend to keep their 2nd ammendment liberties to spite people like this that have personal agendas and total disregard of the U.S. constitution.
Her husband was one of six killed and her son was one of nineteen wounded by a guy who had the time and the leisure to reload his gun three times before he was jumped. Did she ever think if her husband, her son, and a few others were carrying a gun they might both still be alive and unharmed?
From her statement , maybe we can just annex everything East of the Hudson valley . Let them become their own state or whatever they want to be. Let upstate represent itself and not be out voted by a give me this and that govt handout based giant metropolitan area.
I live on Long Island and if it weren't for downstate NY taxes that are funneled upstate you guys would be living in cardboard boxes, driving on dirt roads, and your kids going to school in trailers. So, stop yer bitchin' PLEASE.
In New York it is currently illegal to attach a knife on to your rifle
All but one provision of the New York Assault Weapons Ban deals with COSMETIC additions to a rifle and has no effect on the lethality of the firearm. Banned items are Folding/collapsible stock, flash suppressor or a compensator, pistol grip, threaded barrel, barrel shroud, bayonet(a KNIFE!) are all banned in NY
I really wish that this law would be terminated with regards to the District of Columbia v. Heller by TSCOTUS
I think Gillibrand is a great choice. Finally a pro gun Democrat will be in the NY senate.
If guns are outright banned then the only people who will have them are the criminals and the government. That is bad, very very bad.
The federal AWB which expired in 2004 and the NY assault weapons ban which has NO EXPIRATION DATE are the worst pieces of legislative crap I have ever seen.
The idiots who wrote these laws up had absolutely no idea what they were banning.
To that news bitch reporting this crap ( Oh and your poor husband was shot and killed by a crazed gun man) SHUT THE FLYING FUCK UP BITCH. Oh haven't even got started yet with the other cunt CAROLYN McCARTHY :FUCKING ROLL OVER AND DIE WOULD YOU. My own brother was shot and killed many years ago at a grocery store but I don't blame the gun just the ASS HOLE that shot him .I would have rather my brother had a gun and shot him instead . Your moral compass is so fucked up you cant find your own ass.
come on people its not the weapons its the people if we take away guns, they're always gonna find something else at least guns give people a quick and painless death but for every person in America that would use a gun for violence 1000 more would use them for good and self-defense
lol, SHE'S AN OLD LADY THAT HAS NO IDEA WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT. you think someone trying to pass laws would have a fucking clue what it is they are trying to outlaw. dumb ass bitch.
''A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.'' - George Washington
The Supreme Court makes it clear that all of the first 10 Amendments of Our Constitution deal with individual liberty, people like this just don't get it. Unarmed citizens are as helpless as sheep. What are the democrats afraid of?
this is were politics has gotten out of control. this woman has a personal agenda to ban guns. she will not even accept a fellow party member because they other person is pro gun and will even go as far as to say she shouldnt be allowed to be in congress because of her stance on guns. hopefully this idiot of a woman will be booted out in the next election.
You know I'd like to be optimistic that she will be booted out in the next election, but history shows us that the ignorant voters of New York keep voting people like this back into office.
Just think if her law abiding husband exercised his 2nd amendment rights....he would be on You Tube telling his story about how he saved his life from a criminal....This woman will never get the idea that there will always be criminals, that are willing to do people harm, for what ever reason. Her socialist attitude about government should control the people is going away, they know it, so now it is a "your safety" approach to keep them going.Pssst read the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights.
I dont see why this bitch has the ability to say that someone involved w/ the NRA "will not" represent the state of New York. How many residents of New York are NRA members themselves? Where is their voice?
I think its about time NY has a voice FOR the gun crowd.
The liberal mindset goes w/ the idea that us 'regular folk' are too stupid, and need their 'superior intellect' to survive these 'dire emergencies' that seem to always promote/make up.
This just in: Us 'regular folk' have been surviving for quite some time w/o your assistance.
Yes, I remember hearing about those times. The times before government decided to dip their hands into everything w/ ridiculous legislation and oversight.
Let the market be free. Back off the taxes in the corporate AND consumer area. STOP spending money.
If Obama gets his so-called "stimulus" plan going, the Nation is doomed to see what California and New York are going through right now.
... 1933-1970 as a non interventionist era? What planet are you living on? Well rest easy because I'm pretty sure Obama won't propose anything more radical (economically) than those days (well maybe more healthcare but far less taxes).
How do you suppose we will pay for his trillion dollar spending plan? You think taxing 5% of the economy will pay for that? I doubt it. We will all see higher taxes, I guarantee you
He IS already planning for something more radical. Nationalizing banks is in the future. The government already has their hands into PRIVATE businesses. We are moving into a socialist country and THAT will ruin us.
In 1980 debt was 30-40% of GDP after Reagan it was 65% and now it's aproaching 70%... So we know who we have to thank for the debt. Without Clinton it would have been even higher. This stimulus costs far less than Bush's wars. HOWEVER since we are talking about FDR and WW2 I may need to remind you that debt at the end of WW2 was at it;s peak 120% we have quite a bit of wiggle room left.
This new spending plan will excel by far the cost of the War of Terror. Im believe our debt will be dangerously close to the levels at the end of WW2 if Obama enacts this "stimulus" plan. I put stimulus in quotaions because I encourage you to research how much money will actually go to stimulating the economy.
Most of the money wont even be spent by 2011. I dont see how thats a stimulus to our weakened economy...
Sorry the stimulus itself won't come close to the price of the war on terror. But who knows perhaps there will be a stimulus part 2.
"Im believe our debt will be dangerously close to the levels at the end of WW2 if Obama enacts this "stimulus" plan."
That's because you fail at math. If it's the debt you are concerned about your criticism is misplaced and should be directed at Reagan and both Bushes (and maybe FDR but you can't blame him for WW2).
Actually, that was about the time government DECIDED to dip their hands into everything. They decided that THEY had to control everything to make it better.
Its funny how 'the great depression' in the US is only referred to as 'the depression' throughout the rest of the world. FDR's tinkering around w/ the economy helped OUR depression last many years longer than in other countries.
Our economy was very much capitalist. We sold many wartime products to European nations also involved in the war. They helped to funf the market that existed AFTERWARD. FDR also listened to republicans at the time and finally rained in his spending.
It was remarkeable how it took 12years to get to that point. Many years of spending money and backing pointless programs. Im afraid we are doomed to repeat this w/ our current administration.
FDR destroyed the republican party, and they didn't recover till the late 70s. He did bring some fiscal responsibility in 37 amidst a barely recovering econ, it was a huge mistake the following 2 years saw a sever recession. And the giant public works project that was WW2 saw the economy recover again spectacularly. You misunderstand the concept of capitalism i't's not merely selling products it's private ownership and lack of regulation. The wartime eoconomy was the anthethesis of that.
The fall of our economy wasnt due to capitalism. It was due to the governments attempts to blend capitalism w/ heavy regulation and control. The free market will always succeed. All over the world we see socialist nations now REDUCING the control over businesses to promote growth. If our government had stayed out of the private sector, this even might possibly have been avoided for us.
That's your simplistic view. Again the government was far more involved from 1933-1970 than it is today and growth was not only far and away more strong but also more widespread.
"All over the world we see socialist nations now REDUCING the control over businesses to promote growth. "
What do the 14 democratic nations (a historic record) wealthier than the USA have in common? Yes that's right they are all economically to the left of the USA (and even to the left of democrats).
What else do those 14 'democratic' nations (who, as a nation, arent wealthier than us, btw) have in common? Their economies are tanking and some have even gone bankrupt!
That is why you see the survivors starting to lean towards capitalism to solve their issues.
Despite what you chose to interpret through history, w/o the actual war, the economy wouldnt have stabilized. It doesnt matter how much involvement the government proposed, w/o the war itself, we would have gone bankrupt then.
History aside, I encourage to look at Obama's so called "stimulus" plan. You seem to be in support of it by your arguments, but how will it actually stimulate the economy?
Millions of dollars are funding STD prevention research?! What?!
12 cents out of every dollar is argueably going to stimulus programs--and thats argueably at best! Even then, those jobs created will be temporary. Obama needs to act according to the speech he gave today. He needs to change his plan accordingly.
I would rather have 100b of the tax cuts ripped out and far more of the plan to infrastructure and energy (and yes that means cutting the STD prevention research and the like, but they are no less effective than tax cuts). I'm not sure yet how I feel about this bill but I definitely support A stimulus bill. Economists are calling for a far larger bill though, and I rather have the white house set it up than the house democrats as seems to have happened.
Italy is on the cusp and England is right behind them. Soon I believe they will also be fully bankrupt.
Investing in energy (alternative energy sources) like the bill lines up is a terrible idea. It wont create new jobs w/o destroying old ones. If investing into energy is what our government does, they should invest into oil companies drilling in our own nation. It would create many new jobs as well as lower energy costs for the rest of the nation.
Not to mention build up the tanking steel industry and open the doors for construction workers and engineers. They need to lower regulation of manufacturing businesses and, as Obama SAID today, "help create a favorable climate in which workers can prosper, businesses can thrive, and our economy can grow."
This is simply NOT a stimulus plan. Wasting money on programs that arent helping our economy is just that--waste.
"This is simply NOT a stimulus plan. Wasting money on programs that arent helping our economy is just that--waste."
You know nothing of economics. In a depressed economy the most important thing is creating extra demand. There are no incentives for private investment in this economic climate. The American society of civil engineers gave the country's infrastructure a D grade and calculated a whopping 2.2 trillion investment is needed to bring it up to snuff. An opportunity in a crisis.
You could say that, but how much of this bill is ACTUALLY going to infrastructure. AsI mentioned before, only 12cents of every dollar is going to anything argueably considered stimulus. Obama needs to wake up and cut out the pointless spending portions of this new bill. If infrastructure is a good investment, throw the money in there. Dont waste MY money on abortions for people in other countries, or condom research.
Also, as Ive mentioned, creating new energy sources wont create jobs. It will only relocate them. We have a very stable energy demand in the US. Creating more energy wont increase that demand. When solar jobs are created, coal jobs will be lost. When we drill in the US, we initiate jobs that dont exist in this country. We actually create new jobs instead of replacing old ones. Even though oil wont last forever, there is more than enough to get us out of this mess.
"Investing in energy (alternative energy sources) like the bill lines up is a terrible idea. It wont create new jobs w/o destroying old ones. If investing into energy is what our government does, they should invest into oil companies drilling in our own nation. It would create many new jobs as well as lower energy costs for the rest of the nation."
Haw awfully shortsighted. Oil is not going to last forever. What we need is wind in the Texas panhandle, solar in nevada and nuclear everywhere else.
Nuclear is the only option in there thats anywhere near reasonable at the moment. Wind, water, and solar projects are overly expensive and arent very efficient. We dont even know how well they will work. Nuclear would be an excellent investment, but wont happen w/ dems in control.
Out of 825billion dollars in Obamas plan, only 90billion is going towards infrastructure. I seriously encourage you to look into where this money is ACTUALLY going. Calling his plan a stimulus is WAY far off base.
"What else do those 14 'democratic' nations (who, as a nation, arent wealthier than us, btw) have in common? Their economies are tanking and some have even gone bankrupt!"
WTF!? It seems like you live in some sort of alternative reality.
Ever heard of the credit crunch? Guess where it originated. And other than Iceland (a country of 300k people) I can't really think of any 1st world country considered bankrupt.
McCarthy you has been hag witch just do us all a favor and retire. You are liberal trash and do not represent what America wants in their representatives.
McCarthy really proves to the world what a single minded zealot she is.
Deflects "liberal" -- oh, we're PROGRESSIVES here --
Totalitarian, too. Oh, those dang upstaters and their rights don't matter against our urban fears, never mind that most of her "solutions" won't work, which of course creates a vicious cycle of more-PROGRESSIVE societal deterioration and more PROGRESSIVE "solutions." Nanny-state nitwit, you betcha.
The cheap shots and personal attacks on McCarthy here are appalling.
McCarthy was a registered Republican when her husband was killed.
The Republican party would not support her in her challenge of the Republican incumbent in the primary, so she decided to run against the incumbent as a Democrat.
She won and the Republicans lost.
Her district is very Republican and she does have serious opponents, yet she continues to be sent back to Washington.
She's a retard who could not even explain what a flashider was on a piece of anti-gun legislation that she sponsored! She made a total ass out of herself over and over again when it comes to anyhting that fires a bullet. And you wonder why she gets trashed on here??? .
What does it take for people like Carolyn McCarthy to understand? There are many gun laws out there and her anti-gun views only threaten the safety of honest citizens. People have a right to protect themselves. The NRA helps fight to protect these rights. She admitted that she is making this a "personal issue". It is a tragey what happened to her husband but had she, her husband and others been armed, her husband very likely would be alive today.
If her husband and her son had guns they probably would have been fine. The shooter on the train was an east target. Bernard Geotz stopped 5 muggers on a train with a gun.
global warming will be forgotten in the coming shit-storm over gun control.
Thanks to this lumpy-faced cow and people like her, watch for a huge fight over the gun issue in the next couple years with the above-mentioned IMPORTANT issues being mooted. We've justed signed up for 2 years (at least) of the GUN ISSUE (and DAMN little else.) Are all you Obamabots happy now???
Gillibrand has voted in support of trophy hunting of polar bears and has a below
average FAILING score of 58 amongst both the Democratic and greater NY congressional
members. More info on her votes are available at HumaneScorecard (dot)org Gillibrand wanted to make "Hunting and Fishing Day" a national holiday. She uses taxpayer funds to subsidize the huters' "hobby". What a redneck kook. She embrasses all upstaters.
Gillibrand's YouTube page prohibits comments/ratings. Not cool.
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Gillibrand is a terrible choice IMHO. I'm OK with her being pro-gun, but her 100% rating with the NRA is scary (I half-kiddingly say that membership in the NRA should be enough to bar one from ever owning a gun).
Most of all I loathe her fanatical pro-hunting position, and tax-funded subsidies to promote hunting, the pork she put in the farm bill, and her support of the disgustingly mis-named H.R. 2016 which effectivly seeks to turn all public land into game parks.
I think Patterson made the right choice. McCarthy obviously doesn't know jack about unity.
I wonder if Hillary had a hand in the picking though. Gillibrand helped Clinton in her own 2000 Senate campaign and even though Hillary is Liberal I suspect she is wary of a radical far left takeover of the party. And Carolyn Kennedy supported Obama over Clinton in the presidential primary.
I may disagree with McCarthy on some aspects of gun control, but Gillibrand and her NRA go way to far.
As long as McCarthy does not support hunting, i'll support her despite our disagreement on gun issues. Gillibrand is anti-animal and anti-environment. Much like Paterson.
this bitch is going to hell, I don't have to be god to see that in her future
RYANSCHLESINGER 1 month ago
"this is a personal issue for me it has nothing to do with politics" is this senate and congress or 11th grade? Youre a joke carol people love guns
12gaugeG 5 months ago
As Artie would say....WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
hanslollick93 5 months ago
why should we suffer because this is a personal issue to her? bitter old egomaniac
mandypants02 6 months ago
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mandypants02 6 months ago
Listen to the voices of law abiding citizens not the voices in your head bitch.
NEMESSIS1987 7 months ago
yeah, see, the problem is, politics are not for venting your grief on law abiding citizens by proposing inane legislation that is unconstutional. When will she get it ?
sonick808 8 months ago
M. more
S. stupid
N. nonsensical
B. biased
C. crap
savage495 10 months ago
I hope she gets stabbed with a dull knife.
Then we can hear.
BAN ALL BUTTER KNIVES!!!!!!
boominrick1987 1 year ago
What an ornery bitch.
bubbiesdad 1 year ago
Join the NRA today!
redfestiva 1 year ago 2
Google..... H.R. 4545
johnnybagofdonets 1 year ago
Fran Becker in Nassau County....No Brainer...
johnnybagofdonets 1 year ago
She is there doing nothing but pushing a personal agenda. That is main problem with the Gov today.
shananagans5 1 year ago 3
HUMM Lets see she was elected to represent the people not her personal agendas ..Maybe she needs reminded what her job really is ..GEZZ!!
RimfireRat 1 year ago
this woman needs to go away
jjman482 1 year ago 2
You can put lipstick on a pig..Progressive and Pig, a definite connection. I am a NY'er, believe me I'm not proud of these reps. SHE must go, Gillibandt must go, "just a little porky" Schumer must go. We, the People are fed up and sick to death of the bullshit. It alludes me how blinded these people are. Facts are facts. SIX people were killed, 19 WOUNDED.Folks, if every lawful citizen was packing that day, Ferguson would have been stopped at 1 or 2, instead 25 were shot.
4playful 1 year ago 4
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You see this lady wants to ban guns because her husband, and child were killed "with" a gun. But they were killed "by" a nigger. How about a nigger ban?
Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other side. Why is a male nigger 6 six times more likely to go to prison than a white male? Because that is who commits the crimes.
Afrikaaner11 2 years ago
Carolyn McCarthy is such a pawn for the democratic party. She's voted in line with the party 98.3% of the time, and the DNC picks her staff for her.
JDog415 2 years ago 3
If I had a dog as stupid as Carolyn McCarthy I'd bring it to the pound and have it put down as mercy euthanasia. I mean this. She is downright stupid.
TwinMountain 2 years ago 5
GILLIBRAND SUCKS
MALONEY 2010
KevinDuffy1996 2 years ago
This is one dumb broad. She thinks banning firearms is going to rid the country of crime. If anything it will increase it.
stchman 2 years ago 4
McCarthy doesn't know what a barrel shroud is and BANNED IT !!!!! when she was confronted by reporter asking what a barrel shroud is she says "its a should thing that goes up" OWNED !!! she also thinks tracer rounds are incendiary that are HEAT SEEKING that would COOK a deer.
O M F G
Shes dumber than Miss South Carolina
keltecairsoft 2 years ago 5
This whore should be charged with high treason.
Rosenrot03 2 years ago 3
who does she think she is to tell us who should be elected . we have the right to bare arms. get lost
moviecritic0 2 years ago
her claim to fame is her husband and son got shot by a criminal. her mission is to punish law-abiding citizens. misguided hag.
RetardedAdult 2 years ago
I hope this bitch gets a deadly disease and dies
fortsmith1 2 years ago
me me me me thats all this lady cares about, My brother in law was shot and killed a year ago, And i know it was not the guns fault, AHHHH How do people like this get into office.
mikevanross69 2 years ago
so in other words fuck upstate NY, everything has to go by what the "city" wants. That ugly old bag might want to stay down there in NYC. Maybe Upstate should get rid of the whole fucking island down there or just turn it into a parking lot and give the statue of liberty to Jersey.
hiiiichar 2 years ago
i guess cars cause drive by shootings, cars cause drunk driving, cars cause vehicular homicide, accidents,drag racing on the streets. so what do we do next you liberal dickheads,ban cars?
badazz1911 2 years ago
Don't give them any ideas. They probbaly support police checkpoints as well.
TargetGuy2245 2 years ago
blah blah blah
badazz1911 2 years ago
"This is a personal issue to me"
Keep your "personal issue" out of my legislation. I don't have to abide by shit because you "feel" one way or another. Popular consensus rules, and the popular consensus is that you're cause is losing ground.
Fight the CRIMINALS that do things like the man who killed your husband. Leave ME the fuck alone.
If you are the victim of a gun-crime, you have 2 possible regrets: "BAD GUNS" or "Damn, wish I'd had a gun..." More people like #2.
beretta001 2 years ago 3
Well it was not a flash hider it was a barrel shroud, but none the less she is just like the brady's someone she loves was shot so the answer ban the damn things. What a joke
keowndaniel 2 years ago
I love it. Finally a Senator who satisfies the needs of most of New York. I will NEVER live in New York because of NYC. McCarthy is an outdated shriveled bitch who got in over her husband's dead body.
TargetGuy2245 2 years ago
Shut the fuck up you sorry son of a bitch, how dare you. You are such a fucking loser. You should really be ashamed of yourself.
duece152 2 years ago
Shriveled bitch
TargetGuy2245 2 years ago
do you have any idea what you're talking about?
SabahAlev 2 years ago
Seeing how I live in NY, I think that I do.
duece152 2 years ago
just cause you live somewhere doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.
SabahAlev 2 years ago
This bitch lives in NY also and she is Fucking CLUELESS!!!!
mountaindiesel2000 2 years ago
please don't judge all ny'ers based on this igorant woman (although schumer etal give us all a bad name). 15 YEARS is a mighty long time to hold this position based on sympathy votes.
What she, and many others, refuse to see, if every lawful citizen on that train was packing, her husband might well be alive today. Gillibrand sucker punched all who supported her locally. THEY BOTH MUST GO, THEY BOTH WILL GO. As for referring to herself as "Progressive," makes her label all the worse.
4playful 1 year ago
thats one ugly old man
dmad123456 2 years ago 2
Your mom.
SaganAppreciationSoc 2 years ago
Thats too funny. Washed up Carolyn McCarthy who accomplished nothing in years in congress is going to challenge dynamic, intelligent, photogenic rising star kristin Gillibrand for her senate seat. Im sure Kristin is shaking in her boots lol.
obamaayers 2 years ago
The long island shooter did carolyn mccarthys husband a favor by killing him , so that poor man wouldnt have to look at this dried prune of a c+nt for the rest of his life. I only hope Carloyn McCarthy gets c*nt cancer and her clit becomes a tumorous mass
rickmarctl 2 years ago
This old woman's mind is so warped with misinformation that she can not distinguish between a criminal with an illegal gun and members of the NRA which are law abiding American citizens with a RIGHT to bear arms. She is a pathetic example of what is nothing more than a self-serving political agenda. So your husband got shot by a criminal 15 years ago, tough shit, get over it.
RetardedAdult 3 years ago 20
The enormous spike in gun sales in recent months is a clear indicator that Americans intend to keep their 2nd ammendment liberties to spite people like this that have personal agendas and total disregard of the U.S. constitution.
redfestiva 3 years ago
Her husband was one of six killed and her son was one of nineteen wounded by a guy who had the time and the leisure to reload his gun three times before he was jumped. Did she ever think if her husband, her son, and a few others were carrying a gun they might both still be alive and unharmed?
ClassicFIHD 3 years ago 19
Bravo!
RetardedAdult 3 years ago
Amen to that!
novusord 3 years ago
From her statement , maybe we can just annex everything East of the Hudson valley . Let them become their own state or whatever they want to be. Let upstate represent itself and not be out voted by a give me this and that govt handout based giant metropolitan area.
Marlin189444 3 years ago
I live on Long Island and if it weren't for downstate NY taxes that are funneled upstate you guys would be living in cardboard boxes, driving on dirt roads, and your kids going to school in trailers. So, stop yer bitchin' PLEASE.
RetardedAdult 3 years ago
In New York it is currently illegal to attach a knife on to your rifle
All but one provision of the New York Assault Weapons Ban deals with COSMETIC additions to a rifle and has no effect on the lethality of the firearm. Banned items are Folding/collapsible stock, flash suppressor or a compensator, pistol grip, threaded barrel, barrel shroud, bayonet(a KNIFE!) are all banned in NY
I really wish that this law would be terminated with regards to the District of Columbia v. Heller by TSCOTUS
Tachyon14 3 years ago
I think Gillibrand is a great choice. Finally a pro gun Democrat will be in the NY senate.
If guns are outright banned then the only people who will have them are the criminals and the government. That is bad, very very bad.
The federal AWB which expired in 2004 and the NY assault weapons ban which has NO EXPIRATION DATE are the worst pieces of legislative crap I have ever seen.
The idiots who wrote these laws up had absolutely no idea what they were banning.
Tachyon14 3 years ago
To that news bitch reporting this crap ( Oh and your poor husband was shot and killed by a crazed gun man) SHUT THE FLYING FUCK UP BITCH. Oh haven't even got started yet with the other cunt CAROLYN McCARTHY :FUCKING ROLL OVER AND DIE WOULD YOU. My own brother was shot and killed many years ago at a grocery store but I don't blame the gun just the ASS HOLE that shot him .I would have rather my brother had a gun and shot him instead . Your moral compass is so fucked up you cant find your own ass.
sniperjohn72 3 years ago
We outlawed booze and the mob got rich and bought guns
We outlawed drugs and organized crime got rich and bought guns
Outlaw guns and organized crime will make more money and have more guns
This is not rocket science.
PJThatOthersMayLive 3 years ago
come on people its not the weapons its the people if we take away guns, they're always gonna find something else at least guns give people a quick and painless death but for every person in America that would use a gun for violence 1000 more would use them for good and self-defense
digitalph33rfan9 3 years ago
Though I'd bring this up.
What's a barrel shroud?
Mccarthy: "I actually don't know what a barrel shroud is, I believe its a shoulder thing that goes up."
"Heat seeking bullets"
And they wonder why we fight them so...
fatefinger 3 years ago
lol, SHE'S AN OLD LADY THAT HAS NO IDEA WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT. you think someone trying to pass laws would have a fucking clue what it is they are trying to outlaw. dumb ass bitch.
RetardedAdult 3 years ago 3
''A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.'' - George Washington
The Supreme Court makes it clear that all of the first 10 Amendments of Our Constitution deal with individual liberty, people like this just don't get it. Unarmed citizens are as helpless as sheep. What are the democrats afraid of?
crapseven 3 years ago 2
i love how she thinks that new york city is the only place that counts in new york state, and obviously doesn't give a shit about upstate.
filthywalrus 3 years ago
I'm sorry for her loss but to penalise all law abiding citizens because of her loss is inapproiate.
If her family would have had a gun to protect themselves then they might not be dead.
When you take away the rights of the citizen then only the bad people will violate those rights.
As she admits it's personal to her.
When you take away the guns of the citizens then only the bad guys have the guns and allot of them are Cops.
WulfBand 3 years ago
Yes let's legalize murder because murderers don't follow the law anyway. EXCELLENT LOGIC!
My problem with Gillibrand btw isn't the NRA (though I don't care for it) it's the fact that she's a blue dog. That's a waste in New York!
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
Vote N.R.A.! 2nd Amendment!
With Out 2nd, THERE ARE NO OTHERS!
Good Gun Control: Is Hitting Your Target!
rebelstang 3 years ago
That bitch needs to get stabbed.
aeronut19 3 years ago
What an absolute fool, this woman seriously thinks that gangbangers and criminals are using registered weapons.
1776iscoming 3 years ago 2
this is were politics has gotten out of control. this woman has a personal agenda to ban guns. she will not even accept a fellow party member because they other person is pro gun and will even go as far as to say she shouldnt be allowed to be in congress because of her stance on guns. hopefully this idiot of a woman will be booted out in the next election.
disturbedone5009 3 years ago 2
You know I'd like to be optimistic that she will be booted out in the next election, but history shows us that the ignorant voters of New York keep voting people like this back into office.
theallmightychad 3 years ago
the same kind of people keep putting boxer and feinstein in office in california where i live unfortunately.
disturbedone5009 3 years ago
Just think if her law abiding husband exercised his 2nd amendment rights....he would be on You Tube telling his story about how he saved his life from a criminal....This woman will never get the idea that there will always be criminals, that are willing to do people harm, for what ever reason. Her socialist attitude about government should control the people is going away, they know it, so now it is a "your safety" approach to keep them going.Pssst read the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights.
powderburnz08 3 years ago 2
when will these fucking, idiot politicians realize that they can't fuck w/ the constitution!
gunnyranger2 3 years ago
I dont see why this bitch has the ability to say that someone involved w/ the NRA "will not" represent the state of New York. How many residents of New York are NRA members themselves? Where is their voice?
I think its about time NY has a voice FOR the gun crowd.
JoeysTheMan54 3 years ago
Liberals know what's better for all of us. So they think.
ammosmith 3 years ago
Haha, spot on.
The liberal mindset goes w/ the idea that us 'regular folk' are too stupid, and need their 'superior intellect' to survive these 'dire emergencies' that seem to always promote/make up.
This just in: Us 'regular folk' have been surviving for quite some time w/o your assistance.
JoeysTheMan54 3 years ago
Yep and the 'regular folk' have been doing a lot better in the liberal age of 1933-1970 than the clusterfuck we're in today. Especially economically.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
Yes, I remember hearing about those times. The times before government decided to dip their hands into everything w/ ridiculous legislation and oversight.
Let the market be free. Back off the taxes in the corporate AND consumer area. STOP spending money.
If Obama gets his so-called "stimulus" plan going, the Nation is doomed to see what California and New York are going through right now.
JoeysTheMan54 3 years ago
... 1933-1970 as a non interventionist era? What planet are you living on? Well rest easy because I'm pretty sure Obama won't propose anything more radical (economically) than those days (well maybe more healthcare but far less taxes).
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
How do you suppose we will pay for his trillion dollar spending plan? You think taxing 5% of the economy will pay for that? I doubt it. We will all see higher taxes, I guarantee you
He IS already planning for something more radical. Nationalizing banks is in the future. The government already has their hands into PRIVATE businesses. We are moving into a socialist country and THAT will ruin us.
JoeysTheMan54 3 years ago
@Joey
In 1980 debt was 30-40% of GDP after Reagan it was 65% and now it's aproaching 70%... So we know who we have to thank for the debt. Without Clinton it would have been even higher. This stimulus costs far less than Bush's wars. HOWEVER since we are talking about FDR and WW2 I may need to remind you that debt at the end of WW2 was at it;s peak 120% we have quite a bit of wiggle room left.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
This new spending plan will excel by far the cost of the War of Terror. Im believe our debt will be dangerously close to the levels at the end of WW2 if Obama enacts this "stimulus" plan. I put stimulus in quotaions because I encourage you to research how much money will actually go to stimulating the economy.
Most of the money wont even be spent by 2011. I dont see how thats a stimulus to our weakened economy...
JoeysTheMan54 3 years ago
@Joey
Sorry the stimulus itself won't come close to the price of the war on terror. But who knows perhaps there will be a stimulus part 2.
"Im believe our debt will be dangerously close to the levels at the end of WW2 if Obama enacts this "stimulus" plan."
That's because you fail at math. If it's the debt you are concerned about your criticism is misplaced and should be directed at Reagan and both Bushes (and maybe FDR but you can't blame him for WW2).
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
Actually, that was about the time government DECIDED to dip their hands into everything. They decided that THEY had to control everything to make it better.
Its funny how 'the great depression' in the US is only referred to as 'the depression' throughout the rest of the world. FDR's tinkering around w/ the economy helped OUR depression last many years longer than in other countries.
Its also funny how a WAR fixed our economy.
JoeysTheMan54 3 years ago
"Its also funny how a WAR fixed our economy."
Yes it is because America had never been less capitalist then in the wartime economy (relax it's not a sustainable money but an excellent STIMULUS!).
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
Our economy was very much capitalist. We sold many wartime products to European nations also involved in the war. They helped to funf the market that existed AFTERWARD. FDR also listened to republicans at the time and finally rained in his spending.
It was remarkeable how it took 12years to get to that point. Many years of spending money and backing pointless programs. Im afraid we are doomed to repeat this w/ our current administration.
JoeysTheMan54 3 years ago
@Joey
FDR destroyed the republican party, and they didn't recover till the late 70s. He did bring some fiscal responsibility in 37 amidst a barely recovering econ, it was a huge mistake the following 2 years saw a sever recession. And the giant public works project that was WW2 saw the economy recover again spectacularly. You misunderstand the concept of capitalism i't's not merely selling products it's private ownership and lack of regulation. The wartime eoconomy was the anthethesis of that.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
The fall of our economy wasnt due to capitalism. It was due to the governments attempts to blend capitalism w/ heavy regulation and control. The free market will always succeed. All over the world we see socialist nations now REDUCING the control over businesses to promote growth. If our government had stayed out of the private sector, this even might possibly have been avoided for us.
JoeysTheMan54 3 years ago
That's your simplistic view. Again the government was far more involved from 1933-1970 than it is today and growth was not only far and away more strong but also more widespread.
"All over the world we see socialist nations now REDUCING the control over businesses to promote growth. "
What do the 14 democratic nations (a historic record) wealthier than the USA have in common? Yes that's right they are all economically to the left of the USA (and even to the left of democrats).
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
What else do those 14 'democratic' nations (who, as a nation, arent wealthier than us, btw) have in common? Their economies are tanking and some have even gone bankrupt!
That is why you see the survivors starting to lean towards capitalism to solve their issues.
Despite what you chose to interpret through history, w/o the actual war, the economy wouldnt have stabilized. It doesnt matter how much involvement the government proposed, w/o the war itself, we would have gone bankrupt then.
JoeysTheMan54 3 years ago
History aside, I encourage to look at Obama's so called "stimulus" plan. You seem to be in support of it by your arguments, but how will it actually stimulate the economy?
Millions of dollars are funding STD prevention research?! What?!
12 cents out of every dollar is argueably going to stimulus programs--and thats argueably at best! Even then, those jobs created will be temporary. Obama needs to act according to the speech he gave today. He needs to change his plan accordingly.
JoeysTheMan54 3 years ago
@Joey
I would rather have 100b of the tax cuts ripped out and far more of the plan to infrastructure and energy (and yes that means cutting the STD prevention research and the like, but they are no less effective than tax cuts). I'm not sure yet how I feel about this bill but I definitely support A stimulus bill. Economists are calling for a far larger bill though, and I rather have the white house set it up than the house democrats as seems to have happened.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
Italy is on the cusp and England is right behind them. Soon I believe they will also be fully bankrupt.
Investing in energy (alternative energy sources) like the bill lines up is a terrible idea. It wont create new jobs w/o destroying old ones. If investing into energy is what our government does, they should invest into oil companies drilling in our own nation. It would create many new jobs as well as lower energy costs for the rest of the nation.
JoeysTheMan54 3 years ago
Not to mention build up the tanking steel industry and open the doors for construction workers and engineers. They need to lower regulation of manufacturing businesses and, as Obama SAID today, "help create a favorable climate in which workers can prosper, businesses can thrive, and our economy can grow."
This is simply NOT a stimulus plan. Wasting money on programs that arent helping our economy is just that--waste.
JoeysTheMan54 3 years ago
"This is simply NOT a stimulus plan. Wasting money on programs that arent helping our economy is just that--waste."
You know nothing of economics. In a depressed economy the most important thing is creating extra demand. There are no incentives for private investment in this economic climate. The American society of civil engineers gave the country's infrastructure a D grade and calculated a whopping 2.2 trillion investment is needed to bring it up to snuff. An opportunity in a crisis.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
You could say that, but how much of this bill is ACTUALLY going to infrastructure. AsI mentioned before, only 12cents of every dollar is going to anything argueably considered stimulus. Obama needs to wake up and cut out the pointless spending portions of this new bill. If infrastructure is a good investment, throw the money in there. Dont waste MY money on abortions for people in other countries, or condom research.
JoeysTheMan54 3 years ago
Also, as Ive mentioned, creating new energy sources wont create jobs. It will only relocate them. We have a very stable energy demand in the US. Creating more energy wont increase that demand. When solar jobs are created, coal jobs will be lost. When we drill in the US, we initiate jobs that dont exist in this country. We actually create new jobs instead of replacing old ones. Even though oil wont last forever, there is more than enough to get us out of this mess.
JoeysTheMan54 3 years ago
"Investing in energy (alternative energy sources) like the bill lines up is a terrible idea. It wont create new jobs w/o destroying old ones. If investing into energy is what our government does, they should invest into oil companies drilling in our own nation. It would create many new jobs as well as lower energy costs for the rest of the nation."
Haw awfully shortsighted. Oil is not going to last forever. What we need is wind in the Texas panhandle, solar in nevada and nuclear everywhere else.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
Nuclear is the only option in there thats anywhere near reasonable at the moment. Wind, water, and solar projects are overly expensive and arent very efficient. We dont even know how well they will work. Nuclear would be an excellent investment, but wont happen w/ dems in control.
Out of 825billion dollars in Obamas plan, only 90billion is going towards infrastructure. I seriously encourage you to look into where this money is ACTUALLY going. Calling his plan a stimulus is WAY far off base.
JoeysTheMan54 3 years ago
"What else do those 14 'democratic' nations (who, as a nation, arent wealthier than us, btw) have in common? Their economies are tanking and some have even gone bankrupt!"
WTF!? It seems like you live in some sort of alternative reality.
Ever heard of the credit crunch? Guess where it originated. And other than Iceland (a country of 300k people) I can't really think of any 1st world country considered bankrupt.
jpbalkenende 3 years ago
Hey carolyn, what's a barrel shroud?
LamontDaGrizzly 3 years ago
Is it the shoulder thing that goes up, by any chance?
Firsir 3 years ago
Uh no it's not...LOL could'nt resist.
LamontDaGrizzly 3 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAH I was just about to type that in, but you beat me too it lol!!!.
theallmightychad 3 years ago
McCarthy you has been hag witch just do us all a favor and retire. You are liberal trash and do not represent what America wants in their representatives.
waterdoor 3 years ago
McCarthy really proves to the world what a single minded zealot she is.
Deflects "liberal" -- oh, we're PROGRESSIVES here --
Totalitarian, too. Oh, those dang upstaters and their rights don't matter against our urban fears, never mind that most of her "solutions" won't work, which of course creates a vicious cycle of more-PROGRESSIVE societal deterioration and more PROGRESSIVE "solutions." Nanny-state nitwit, you betcha.
See if you can get a scarf that folds up, lady.
462awest 3 years ago 2
The cheap shots and personal attacks on McCarthy here are appalling.
McCarthy was a registered Republican when her husband was killed.
The Republican party would not support her in her challenge of the Republican incumbent in the primary, so she decided to run against the incumbent as a Democrat.
She won and the Republicans lost.
Her district is very Republican and she does have serious opponents, yet she continues to be sent back to Washington.
adamorama 3 years ago
She's a retard who could not even explain what a flashider was on a piece of anti-gun legislation that she sponsored! She made a total ass out of herself over and over again when it comes to anyhting that fires a bullet. And you wonder why she gets trashed on here??? .
TargetGuy2245 2 years ago 2
What does it take for people like Carolyn McCarthy to understand? There are many gun laws out there and her anti-gun views only threaten the safety of honest citizens. People have a right to protect themselves. The NRA helps fight to protect these rights. She admitted that she is making this a "personal issue". It is a tragey what happened to her husband but had she, her husband and others been armed, her husband very likely would be alive today.
kobudusamurai 3 years ago 3
If her husband and her son had guns they probably would have been fine. The shooter on the train was an east target. Bernard Geotz stopped 5 muggers on a train with a gun.
ClassicFIHD 3 years ago 3
One more thing. It's clear that the gun issue
is a HUGE issue to Democraps; so much
so that the economy, energy independence,
global warming will be forgotten in the coming shit-storm over gun control.
Thanks to this lumpy-faced cow and people like her, watch for a huge fight over the gun issue in the next couple years with the above-mentioned IMPORTANT issues being mooted. We've justed signed up for 2 years (at least) of the GUN ISSUE (and DAMN little else.) Are all you Obamabots happy now???
bjggjb 3 years ago
I wonder how that primary will go; ol'
bagface McCarthy against a pro-freedom,
not to mention better-looking
opponent. My guess is that McCarthy
will lose the entire male vote! (Although I think that Slobodan
Milosevic was better looking than
that statist, one-issue hag McCarthy...)
bjggjb 3 years ago
McCarthy is a mental midget.Does she think that Kirsten Gillibrand will shoot her? lol Join the NRA today!
redfestiva 3 years ago
What the hell is Alfonse D'Amato doing up there with Paterson and Gillibrand? I guess vermin attracts vermin.
SaganAppreciationSoc 3 years ago
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Gillibrand has voted in support of trophy hunting of polar bears and has a below
average FAILING score of 58 amongst both the Democratic and greater NY congressional
members. More info on her votes are available at HumaneScorecard (dot)org Gillibrand wanted to make "Hunting and Fishing Day" a national holiday. She uses taxpayer funds to subsidize the huters' "hobby". What a redneck kook. She embrasses all upstaters.
Gillibrand's YouTube page prohibits comments/ratings. Not cool.
SaganAppreciationSoc 3 years ago
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Gillibrand is a terrible choice IMHO. I'm OK with her being pro-gun, but her 100% rating with the NRA is scary (I half-kiddingly say that membership in the NRA should be enough to bar one from ever owning a gun).
Most of all I loathe her fanatical pro-hunting position, and tax-funded subsidies to promote hunting, the pork she put in the farm bill, and her support of the disgustingly mis-named H.R. 2016 which effectivly seeks to turn all public land into game parks.
SaganAppreciationSoc 3 years ago
Stop spamming the same copy & paste job.
ciplexian 3 years ago
Carolyn McCarthy is mentally ill! Probably from being laughed at a lot for the "shoulder thing that goes up" bit.
NineMMAR15 3 years ago
I think Patterson made the right choice. McCarthy obviously doesn't know jack about unity.
I wonder if Hillary had a hand in the picking though. Gillibrand helped Clinton in her own 2000 Senate campaign and even though Hillary is Liberal I suspect she is wary of a radical far left takeover of the party. And Carolyn Kennedy supported Obama over Clinton in the presidential primary.
shonester 3 years ago 2
I may disagree with McCarthy on some aspects of gun control, but Gillibrand and her NRA go way to far.
As long as McCarthy does not support hunting, i'll support her despite our disagreement on gun issues. Gillibrand is anti-animal and anti-environment. Much like Paterson.
SaganAppreciationSoc 3 years ago
So you are pro-gun, but you oppose hunting?
That's one of the more bizarre stances I've
seen on the gun, issue (if you don't mind
my sayin'...)
PLEASE tell me you don't eat meat (at least
I can respect you then.)
bjggjb 3 years ago
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ravensystem83 3 years ago
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ravensystem83 3 years ago
Too bad McCarthy doesn't wear a "face covering
thing that goes up" so we don't have to look
at her pasty, flabby, baggy mug while she
spouts her fascist drivel...
bjggjb 3 years ago