You'll never educate a European like me about Communism. Would you like to trade places with me, and come live here under European Union dictats? You do realize we have no power to elect or remove the people who truly govern us in Europe? You Americans are in the begining stages of what we went through 40 years ago. If you think the USA is already Communist, then what would you call us Europeans?
@AmericanPatriot2008 I know it's probably a matter of degrees but the 'toughest nut' in the western varieties remaining to 'crack' is nevertheless the most indebted of China. I sense its only a matter of time.
Humans and all other animals in nature will automatically choose freedom over
being dominated unless tricked into accepting domination by means of stirring up fears (real or imagined). Many other psy op tactics are also used to deceive. If people can learn to recognize that they are being manipulated, they will choose freedom and liberty everytime.
@KDanagger I've come to find out, sadly, that people will also choose all manner of darkness over light. They will choose lies over truth. They will accept slavery for a known factor rather than animated contest of freedom in the unknown. The Personal responsibility v laziness factor you mentioned has nothing to do with psy-ops its 100% individual fault and responsibility.
But certainly, the gov realizes there are basic 'types' and they cover the bases, for sure.
hese academics have destroyed native cultures by forcing schoolkids& censoring all native grandmothers farming etc wisdom-academics have never given up their slaves who grow their food/clothes for them etc- & would never stop killing living forests/wild animals- to stop making books- no welfare salary/retirement either-and they keep armies to force slaves to support these academics- all talk no action (block action even)
@anyusmoon1 yes- im wondering if people dont want to get rid of borders- how can we be free to travel-freely move for all not just few rich-will borders continue changing as more wars defend or smash borders?-i m not sure im so scared of breaking down borders- natives in canada freely travel to usa as they dont recognize white mans borders-so- why do other races bother w borders ?except for weapons/military/policing border industries/stockmarkets?
@lmollot I'm not saying I have all the answers nor that we will always agree on the answers we feel most strongly about however any hope of restoring some semblance of individual rights, states rights etc means that we have to go back to the founding documents and restore strict limits on GOV! not We the People. Will this satisfy the cultures that were overthrown? No, probably not. We the People have been overthrown and its simply not apparent to the sleeping body. Can we recoup? I don't know.
@anyusmoon1 you are right about who is going to define who "we the people" are- im not sure i want to go die for /or kill for borders which are ever changing-& allies "nations" which are ever changing-my brain cd not handle the contradictions-plus i feel that direct action is for me- not just for the shareholders with their armed soldiers/police-robin hood may not be moral- but richreligious industries claim they are better-but i dont see how-if im poor im not waiting for law s permission 2 eat
We do things at our own risk. ie us vs nature or us vs governments, laws etc. Many will say that laws protecting this tract is ok but that tract isn't. Private property rights are foreign to many cultures; I understand this but don't have any answer for making harmony in the same sphere. That sphere might be within eye sight or within hand shake- who knows? Once the Lord reigns all things of the flesh will pass away. Jesus brought spirit to each individual but few are on that narrow path.
@anyusmoon1 if native matriarchies say they have an answer for this- i will not censor them- one friend told me "whoever grows their own veggies& nut trees - gets to eat- b/c slaves dont want to do 14 hr days/7 days/wk & die young of exhaustion anymore-seems logical to me
@lmollot People will do all sorts of things to survive, even accept slavery. In fact if slavery is safe/peaceful, they will embrace it over the animated contest of freedom and service to God. These are the unwise virgins.
@YE4523 "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude more than the animating contest for freedom--go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms.Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!" Samuel Adams
@YE4523 'you people'? I suppose someone should have told Thomas Jefferson that he was an embarrassment for warning against what 'you people' say is so good? Be specific about what you mean and who you are addressing. Dare to express yourself clearly so the ideas can be debated rather than using insult and invective.
Is it acceptable to object to having your right arm torn off because you who have no arms have it so much worse? Please!
@anyusmoon1 Yes, you people. People who only want to bitch about how bad you have it under a system that allows you so many freedoms. But instead of appreciating what you have, you act as if you're getting your arm torn off? really? A bit dramatic. I generalized, not to insult, but also not to single out comments people have posted. Instead of looking at all the bad in the world because it is endless, try looking into your own and be thankful.
@YE4523 You are confused... the libertarian demands that gov respect individual God-given rights and God is given the thanks for opportunity and freedom, not gov.
Its a sad day when you socialists (under cover of 'democracy') throw the 'thankless' card at the most appreciative individuals alive-- its as though you really believe you have a leg to stand on in terms of lecturing about morality. Your ideas of plunder are horribly immoral and one that dies a violent death.
@anyusmoon1 and what god-given rights have been violated? you act as if government is supposed to be some well oiled machine that pleases everyone. I'm sorry to break your heart but such a government could never exist. And if you believe it could, I care to see if you could come up with an entire system that does. You couldn't, the brightest minds in history weren't able to. Horrible ideas of plunder die a violent death? really? Let's not involve rhetoric from Shakespeare with politics.
@YE4523 What rights have been violated? lol Again, attempting to educate you on what a constitutional republic is, what the constitution says and the intent of the law to defend individual rights and little else in 500 characters or less is simply not going to happen especially in the midst of stupifying ignorance.
Anyone daring 2 quell those who demand excellence and justice from the written law only to concede the usurpations because 'it could be a lot worse' is not really worthy of debate.
@anyusmoon1 Is not worthy of debate? lol well isn't that the pot calling the kettle black...
An unrealistic argument where one melodramatically demands more from the law as if it's its own entity is truly what is not worthy of debate. You ask more of the law failing to realize imperfect people pass them, present them, and carry them out. People are going to make mistakes, it's human nature. Asking anymore of the "law" is asking more of imperfect people doing their jobs as best they can.
@YE4523 ? Seriously, one minute you show humility and willingness to actually achieve reasonable discourse and then flip to a completely different demeanor. *sigh* regardless... The entire Bill of Rights has been stripped from the constitution and many more egregious things are being done every day to usurp jurisdiction and every other heinous thing a gov can do AGAINST THE LAW. These aren't 'MISTAKES' but deliberate usurpations (as the word implies), in other words-- treason.
@anyusmoon1 Last I checked, I still had the rights granted to me by the Bill of Rights, and did not strip those of any other while on duty as a police officer. I can only explain my different demeanor as being a result of one, you, stooping so low as to judge the worth of someone's argument, yet you demand humility but in you I find none.
@anyusmoon1 Say what you will, along with everyone else commenting on your videos, but all the knowledge on government in the world is worthless if you do not delve into and understand the human element to government and putting yourself in the shoes of us, those who work on behalf of it, rather than simply being a critic.
If u were really listening & truly understood the our once great republic you would realize it was established by and for WE THE PEOPLE. Since you don't read my comments and address the content but solely choose to antagonize perhaps the quotes by the founding fathers r more persuasive?
Politics should be the part-time profession of every citizen who would protect the rights and privileges of free people and who would preserve what is good and fruitful in our national heritage.-- John Adams
It is u 'sir' who r obliged 2 know the constitution as u took a solemn oath 2 uphold & defend when hired as a public SERVANT (operative word servant). It is YOU who are grossly negligent and derelict in YOUR duty to even underSTAND the document, the ideas, you swore to uphold. SHAME ON YOU!
Your utterly shameless to not have ayes to SEE the degradation of our precious freedoms. You have the gall to ask which Bill of Rights has been usurped? We are DOOMED because of authority figures like you.
@YE4523 It wasn't Shakespeare I was quoting, troll, but Madison! A founding father and signer of the constitution and 4th president of the united States.
"Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security, or the rights of property; have in general been as short in their lives as they are violent in their deaths."
@YE4523 'Change' isn't required, restoration of law is. Lawlessness should trouble anyones mind, if there in their right-mind. Your sarcasm is unwelcome here.
Thomas Jefferson- But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce [the People] under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government...; Declaration of Independence.
@anyusmoon1 And you call us socialists? lol you can claim that, but a pure democracy wouldn't survive, nor would a purely socialist system. In every successful government, there are measures of both. The U.S. government is by far the most democratic system there is, but it cannot escape the inevitability that you need both elements. This type of hippie theory that everyone should be free to live freely in some kind of utopia is both unrealistic and is so incredibly lacking reason it's gross.
Again, ur so horribly misguided both of understanding facts about a constitutional republic, its strictly limited federal duties to defend States & zero jurisdiction in the sphere of the individual Americans-- its embarrassing. I'm really hoping you just clicked United States when setting up your YT channel and are not really FROM here!
Hippies wanted collectivism & the Utopian socialist/democracy. There's nothing utopic about individual freedom, risk/reward- its hard work w/no guarantees.
@anyusmoon1 lol It's surprising, it's as if you're demanding more of people than God even does!
May I "earnestly" suggest that if you don't like the current system, perhaps you'd be happier doing research on a different country that may grant you "individual freedom" and moving there! Or clone yourself millions times over, infiltrate all positions of our government, and change it as you see fit. Otherwise, just stop complaining and enjoy life. Make that your resolution. I've said my piece.
@YE4523 Madam, no. you may NOT make any suggestions to me and in fact why don't you return from whence you came as it is clear that foreigners such as yourself are only going to continue the infiltration into our free markets as 35 million illegal ones just like you (clones?) have done already.
You have a lot of NERVE as a foreigner who knows SQUAT about what you're talking about telling a citizen to leave! FU there's no PEACE in you madam!
@anyusmoon1 Comparing a legal citizen to that of an illegal alien? That too shows your lack of humility, as I would not believe you are Native American by ethnicity and thus, you are in fact as foreign to this country as I am. Whence? really? Calm down Shakespeare. And judging by your comment, ignorance finally manifests itself in a form all too commonly exhibited by my 4 year old, a temper tantrum lol.
@YE4523 Typical baiting and switching troll constantly flicking from one 'thing' (usually invective, insult or other childish tactic and then, as all cowards do, call the other person childish! lol laughable) to another with zero focus on the facts and solely attacking 'grammar' oh my, what's next... spelling? If you understood one iota of the Bill of Rights and separations of powers you would stay on point and LEARN someone rather than flit about with inanities. Truly... get thee behind me.
@anyusmoon1 Only pointing out those things because I find it comical when people use language from the 18th century to make themselves sound important. Troll? When I am just mainly replying to things you have written, mixing in humor to possibly provide some relief for the scowl I know you must have...
@YE4523 Try a genuine apology for 'relief'. Fat chance of that happening because you're hell bent on ridicule for some odd reason. But trolls do that sort of thing. They don't make their own videos, never show their face on camera, seldom post a position of any substance on their pages and merely come SNARKING about the comment sections of others with sniper like and cowardly sarcasm. Yep TROLL! Fits you like a glove.
@anyusmoon1 Now while as a Christian, I give thanks for freedom, I can agree, but I also give thanks for the minds he has given us to use. God didn't create government, he created people, people created government. Democracy isn't perfect but it's as good as it gets given our human nature. Reality is simple, people aren't perfect given our nature, therefore to sustain society, a government is needed to govern and set laws for the people.
@YE4523 Sir/Madam the US has a constitutional republic form of govt and every state constitution guarantees the people a republican form of govt. I would earnestly recommend u review the basics before attempting to lecture about what 'we' have and what we should be appreciating.
@anyusmoon1 I'm not trying to lecture. But from a realist point of view, I'm simply suggesting that this is the way things are and will continue to be! I was not born here, but have since moved to the states and again, from a realist point of view and someone who has experienced worse types of government, the United States is heaven for individual rights compared to what is out there. You can speak on what the United States lacks, but what it offers far outweighs the bad...
I appreciate the change in your tone, thank you. It's all fine a point of view includes hailing from another country and perhaps spending much of your adult life outside of the US. However... it is the duty of every State citizen to continually check and balance gov and the fed (and many states now too) is WAY out of control. Although you are ignorant of the essential properties of our form of gov now it will behoove you, as a naturalized citizen, to get on top of the situation & immediately.
Because if you don't get and then stay on top of it you will never be able to defend it or make constitutional decisions in your voting and other responsibilities. Plunder is not acceptible and its overdue that we restore the strictly limited gov and thus freedom-- which includes risk/reward features from which a free society truly prospers.
@anyusmoon1 I care to see what you would have to say if you lived under a government that didn't allow even the access to youtube as some indeed do not allow such access. And yet you feel, with all the rights you've been awarded, that you're getting your right arm torn off? "Please!" Put things into perspective and realize how small issues like that being discussed by the gentleman in the video are.
In my country a respected statistiscs bureau, is very much steering public opinion. While they should be neutral. I realised this a while back. But could never lay my finger on it. How they do it, why they do it. Or how to name it. Thank you!
Everytime a so called poll says 60-50 on a subject I get sceptical. 51-49 or 60-40 outcome on polls in my opinion are a sign someone or a group is trying to steer opinion. it is a very powerful tool. 40% would never investigate if truly 60% voted otherwise
@LemonAndYoghurt Democracies eat themselves from within. In other words as soon as 51% decide that 49% are too wealthy a ping pong match of wealth distribution begins to take form.
I think this is why many followers of Christ do not abide in insurance schemes/policies for exactly the reason you present-- statistics is a human attempt to number Gods will and thwart or gamble against it. Skewing the statistics (polls) then becomes an all powerful position in the world.
Lovely to see this, the battle of these Idea's shared so clearly, and the unfolding theft of liberty and hope by the collectivists exposed so well. Humanity now faces the darkest of ages, come soon Lord Jesus!
@dave4737 AMEN! And it's even lovelier to see brothers take time to comment on videos like these and moreover testify for our King of kings and Lord of lords, Christ Jesus!
To all who enjoyed this series please tune to the G Edward Griffin interview of Norman Dodd- a must see CLASSIC of any discriminating patriot desiring information on how we got into the mess we're in regarding the battle against collectivism.
But then what has happend is the idea of being non collect becomes collectivsm oonce a greater marijority oppeses clollectvism and that is what has happend today, the non collect majority has fallen ill the very thing it was trying to prevent becoming a collective.
lol that's pretty good akparker. However, it's not majority agreement on a thing it's the thing on which/that they agree. Next, let me point out that voluntarily joining a collective is entirely a private matter the key distinction in this discussion is when GOVERNMENT FORCES collectivism that is slavery. See the difference?
This is excellent, very powerful and thought-provoking - thanks so much for posting this! I do worry about the concept or suggestion regarding "off-the-grid" living pockets and finding them.
This sounds appealing to me, but I also feel this could be a way of running away from dealing with the underlying problems, when I feel it is just these enlightened people who need to stay a part of the system, increasingly dysfunctional as it is admittedly becoming, to be the catalysts for the change!
@jabotty369 Glad you wrote and that you found it interesting.
Regarding your concern about 'running away from... underlying problems...' I agree, and would like to remind anyone feeling this way that once freedom is restored so does prosperity and consequently generosity and charity.
The founding fathers realized that principles of limited fed gov relied on the general publics ability to 'self-govern' and almost exclusively cited the Creator for such reliance.
This is really good stuff. Thanks for making it available. I became aquainted with Griffin in the documentary The Fall Of America & The Western World. He's amazingly clear and straightforward.
@RobertJantz hmm i have been trying get a copy of that fall of america video but G. Edward doesn't sell it on his site and the other one doesn't accept forms of payment i'm willing to use.
Did you find a full version on line? thanks for commenting here by the way and glad you liked this playlist.
@michigankids glad you enjoyed them. Another 'must see' video series on my vlog is an interview of norman Dodd by G. Edward Griffin. Check them out. :-) share and fav, as those actions help spread the word and keep the truth in favor.
I have a strong belief that America is ideally a land for non-collectivist individuals, and perhaps that is the natural way of mankind. The people of the collective feel empowered to tyrannize others on behalf of some fictional notion of a "group". That mentality is like a terminal illness that has gotten progressively worse, and I try to avoid those people like the plague but it gets more difficult each time there is a presidential election it seems.
What a beautiful observation and coined as 'land-of-the-free'... which is cousin to home-of-the-brave' :-) Once freedom is curtailed for the sake of 'security' you get neither.
There are many pockets of off-the-grid living popping up over the country- I hope you find your niche. Thanks for posting.
It creept in b/c the Founding Fathers were holding millions of enslaved people and it amzaing me how that is never mentioned in the Myth of The founding fathers?
"TheConstitution Con" by Michael Tsarion
The founders were all Esquires, agents of the Crown
I just watched this for the second time after seeing it first about this time last year. Now after all the reading I've done this year and being cognizant of this mentality, this interview gives me incredible insight! Thank you.
So happy to hear it. Your comment is true of so many things, people and events rich in information and quality. The first listening gets through a few layers, and each return produces more clarity.
The Norman Dodd interview is a gem as well. In fact Ed Griffin on 11/12 told Alex Jones that the Dodd piece he did is the most telling of all testimony in his 49 years of research.
I'm so glad there are folks enjoying this. If you're up to it, check out the G. Edward Griffin interview of Norman Dodd (The Hidden Agenda), Woah! now THAT is some incredible testimony by eyewitness Congressional investigator Dodd. 6-parts approx 1 hour.
If you watch, drop me a line to let me know if you agree that it's a must see.
meantime thank you so much for commenting here about this series, very appreciated.
AMEN! Especially when the laws of the land call for a constitutional republic. Legislating anything outside the enumerated powers, especially concerning Federal Gov usurping states and the rights of the people is SEDITION.
Make sure to check out the Norman Dodd interview by G. Edward Griffin. It's six parts and conveniently playlisted on my vlog page. It is mind-blowing! :-)
He can explain things well because it was a learning process for him- as he mentioned. He was once of the collectivist mindset so he knows how they think.
Sort of the same with me. I used to think making laws with the good intention of society in mind was a great thing. It took a while to understand how and why all of these laws backfire in some way. The cons end up outweighing the pros.
So true- Have you watched GE Griffins interview of Norman Dodd for gripping testimony on how, when and why the US education system has been usurped to BUILD and create the very mindset you (and everyone else) fell victim to?
Think about it... where did you and I first learn about creating laws, government, public policy vs. law, culture, etc? Why have all of us 'collectively' abandoned common sense and the INTENT of our founding fathers? EDUCATION SYSTEM gubmint schools. Check it out.
Isn't Griffin great!? Have you seen his interview of Norman Dodd? See my vlog for the 4 to 5 part playlist. It will blow your mind hearing testimony from a first hand witness how our education system has been usurped by non-profit foundations.
For Darkchaos1993, the elections were rigged through either voter suppression, activist judges on the supreme court,and to a certain point complicity on the part of the Democrats in 2000 and 2004 not to challenge the elections. There was a failure from 2000 by any party to seek to correct the problem. Computer voting was not the answer. Then there was Carl Rove. Is it explained enough?
I'm not being flippant here but... there are few 'We The People' people that have any bearing on a presidential election. Even those that voted for him didn't really have a lot to do with him getting elected.
The bigger question is... Bush and Kerry were nearly indistinguishable from one another and the same goes 4 McLame / OweBama.
Until we return this country 2 Constitutional Republic principles, limited federal gov, sound monetary and non-interventionist foreign policies it doesn't matter.
For Darkchaos1993, the elections were rigged through either voter suppression, activist judges on the supreme court,and to a certain point complicity on the part of the Democrats in 2000 and 2004 not to challenge the elections. There was a failure from 2000 by any party to seek to correct the problem. Computer voting was not the answer. Is it explained enough?
The bullshitters like to say who did this and that. I would ask, was the cold war won by Reagan and his policies? Not according to this speaker and his Leninism vs Fabianism lecture. It seems even the Leninists have postponed or delayed and tried a new strategy and become the fabianists vs the other fabianists. NWO according to who?
I am a bit ashamed of my country. Although I still hold it's once cherished values close to my heart. I have to wonder which is it that governs our land, is it greed, or freedom for the individual. Or just freedom for those who have the power and money to gaurantee their own.
Well here it is... the blame falls entirely on American individuals for allowing the usurpation, the responsibility-ditchers, the the envious impoverished of those who have more, or different items, lifestyles or perhaps education then they.
The blame goes to We The People. And it is We the People that will restore sovereignty and all the pains in our asses that sovereignty means.
The country was founded on a government issued powers by and for the people. PERIOD.
What would happen to a society in a world full of other isms, if it didn't practice at least some collectivism? How would it defend itself against potential invaders. The idea of a society with an armed force is collectivism yet if it didn't have it it would be run over by a mob of collectivists.
Volunteering to join a military unit is altogether a different life-style BUT the key is this:
1) Must be VOLUNTARY
2) Must be based on an oath to uphold the Constitution.
Charity functions the same way, if you voluntarily choose to become a part of an organization, or religion, your works are co-mingled with others. The key is you can UN-VOLUNTEER at any time.
Let me rephrase this question. My question is...when does collectivism become detrimental to a free society such as the framers of the U.S.constitution ideology. Realism tells me that this society wouldn't keep or fund a defense large enough to deter an invader that doens't follow this same idealism. So some collectivism must be introduced in order to defend that ideology.
History is to those who want to boast about it in victory later to be slaughtered by that which deceived it.
Look at the current world!
I look at the world now and see superpowers who use third world countries as pawns in their chess game, and they wonder why these countries harbor the so called terrorists who have no real defense against this shitty play but are just the suckers who get the shaft when assholes play chess.
History my friend, if you dare to watch the other fascinating interview BY G. Edward Griffin OF a gentleman by the name of Norman Dodds, has been stolen from you- re-written by those who want to reinstruct on the matter of sovereignty, power of the individual and the rights to flourish or perish.
It is a Truman thing. Has the U.S. let it's military industrial complex introduce to much collectivism past the point of what was the countries original concept or has the cold war introduced to much military industrial complex into the modern political world of the U.S. that it has passed the point of no return?
Those who hunger for power and become greedy with it MAY cause harm to the public and if they do they can be stopped- Again, only by We The People. You can not continue to look for solutions from government, the very scoundrels you talk about.
That is not necessarily as clear cut as one would hope. Average American individuals did NOT want the US to enter WWII (like WWI). Thus, whether concocted or not, Pearl Harbor became the motivation.
1920's through 1940's the Federal Gov was exploding with collectivist growth.
Even though the idea behind government is collectivism there is still 'branding' or tribal issues, ie coke v pepsi or democrat v republican, similarly US vs Nazi Germany
Tell a man that he owns this enormous ranch. Tell him he must work hard to keep it. Tell him he can remain free as long as he tends to it and protects it and his family will eat and thrive due to his efforts. he owns it and will be proud of it and defend against threats. You own the ranch not him. He is really a slave. You've convinced him to do all of the labor for free and you sit and collect. this is what America was created to do for the european banking families. we are slaves. Perfected.
Wouldnt true individualism be possible only if all nations were abolished? What is patriotism if not another form of collectivism, worship of nation over self? Maybe if the US Constitution and all other constitutions and nations were abolished, we could then be true individuals instead of first being Americans, Chinese or Canadians.
Not saying our constitutional republic is PERFECT but its the only government ever created to hold the individual as having rights by G*D (natual rights) and not those granted by a monarchy or by concensus.
Anarchy is impossible, yes. A constitutional republic proved itself until the international money interests forced themselves into the monetary policy- ala greedy, stupid, corrupt politicians.
It was also advised by Thomas Jefferson to have a revolution every 20 years to keep the government in check. The people are charged with jealously guard against corrupt gov.
No, individuals to thrive merely needs minimal government, where the only force is used for protection from outside threats (other hostile nations), and internal threats (crime against property and people). By definition of our own Constitution (and Bill of rights) limits on collectivism (the Federal government) was applied, and people's individual rights laid out so that they could not be violated, and in effect Jefferson's "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" be granted all individuals.
true, yet the human condition will always force governments to resort to its darker nature. A "One world community" governed by a single law source will result almost instantaniusly in a terranical system. For instance, without outside forces, a government which turns nasty can't be stopped. If you are the only law and only military, your corruption is unstoppable. Nazis stopped by others.
No anarchism is not the constitutional option available to us. At least not without a constitutional amendment abolishing the constitution- pretty absurd.
The opposite of collectivism is individualism and is happily supported by our constitution NOW if it were followed as it should be.
It is quite unlikely, but not impossible, for a system having one leader to ring in individualism BUT without benefit of checks and balance, lifespan of that one guy and the voice of individuals being heard and defended.
I think that power corrupts, and that people need to be corrupt to reach the top. Or else they will disappear silently from the stage, or worse.
I think collectivism is inherent to a society ruled by an government. By beople. Theoretically your idea is possible. But ONLY theoretically, I think.
Absolutely. And this is what our founding fathers new when they set up a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy (majority rules). Thank you for your clarity.
Why thank you myfriend :-) The Federick Bastiat thing is really a treatise not a book, it's only about 90 pages and will absolutely astound you in it's brilliant explanation of the law and society, the law and natural rights, the law and plunder. I await your, inevetibably, interesting and gentlemanly(?) response.
ok i might sound abit bragin back ther not the intention, but according to UN norway are some of the 3 best contry to live in the world the past few years
And if I want to live in a collectivist environment I might consider Norway. But until I change my mind I prefer being an individualist, enjoying my natural rights and freedom.
If AMericans want communism, or its little brother socialism, then the constitution must be dismantled. Do Americans want the constitution dismantled? I don't think so.
If Americans want communism, Cuba is only 45 minutes away from Miami. *LOL* They can have their communism over there. *sarcastically* Then come back and tell me how great it is. :)There was a reason why my parents left that retched little island it's falling apart, due to lack of individuals standing against shitty governments and it's repeating here in America. Deeply apologize for the bad words. Please understand, I have no other way to express my anger towards such regimes. :(
Sorry for the drifting there, but agen my question are, can you give me some example's for how/why Collectivism (and you may use socialism as an example) are a bad ting.
Collectivism takes away individual rights and diminishes the strong individual and bolsters the weak individual.
Bolstering weak individuals must always be a voluntary act, otherwise it is theft. ie When a person with less than you breaks into your home and takes your property or food it is wrong. It doesn't make it right just because government takes it from you to give to them.
i want to ask you how Collectivism is an bad thing. are you afraid to lose your freedom, is that it, freedom above all? i my self live in THE best country to live in according to living standards of ALL its inhabitant. That country it The Kingdom of Norway, witch is a very socialism ruled country, even the right "winged" politicians agreed to this rule.
I thank you for your civility and courtesy. All questions are welcome... My answer is this: Individuals exist first; only individuals can make a group. The founders of our constitutional republic understood this concept and wrote very specific laws protecting individuals first.
Actually the first schools were not just communities getting together but rather mostly as an extension of missionary work, so what you ended up seeing in most places where schools moving in first as a part of the church, church meetings were held there and then when the support was there they would build their churchs. At any rate, just a historical thing I suppose, but essentially that was part of the early community in that the community was often an expression of those common heritages,
religions and in that it was the communities that did build the schools and worked towards educating the people where they could in the basic understanding of what it means to be a community, what it means to find themselves linked together as individuals moving towards a common goal rather than a collective where there is this universality mentality that offers to it no senses of the uniqueness of the people.
Thomas Jefferson and James Madison both supported, where the need arose, funding education of students but it was never in the sense of being forced and it was in those places where need and ability was established. To see this one just has to look at the Jefferson Presidency for example and his legacy of education. But the key thing is, as I stated, it was never forced or taken over by the government but only as circumstances arose.
In this they showed an understanding of a government that sees people as individuals and adjusting itself accordingly, not as a collective all requiring the same thing.
At any rate, I like his point about voluntary compliance no longer being there. The problem is that since we have moved further away from these principles it is going to take time,
a lot of time and effort to change the mentality and the thinking of people that they might once more respect the idea of rights with responsibilities.
At any rate, thanks for pointing me here and sharing, it was an informative experience. God bless
You're welcome and I'm glad you enjoyed the series.
As a historian you will REALLY enjoy a six part series where G. Edward Griffin interviews Norman Dodds. A MUST SEE. And as usual I would love to read your comments.
Great videos, excellent information and forewarning of the collectivism movement. If only people would invest more of their free & spare time to learn about things like this & teach their children of the importance of the individual and also of others rights as an individual as well. I agree, collectivism is an ideal tool for those who have less then honorable intentions towards freedom and the rights of individual.
Its sad, those who wish to rule by & thru it, amass wealth/riches, needed to buy others thru the ignorance of Sheople. They have sold their future 4 amusement rather then build wealth gain wisdom to guard individual freedoms they should enjoy. When ignorant stop trading their riches 4 amusement & opt 4 wealth/wisdom, we may just have a chance. Ignorant amongst us, create Kings/Gods (sic) thru their want to be amused.
New Hampshire is a great state--just too damn cold for me. I wish they could switch places with Florida, then I might consider moving back to the States. BTW, read G. Edward Griffin books.
Florida didn't make sense for the Free-State project, if that's what you are refering to :-) The project required a state of less than 1 million in population. There are a couple of mid-western states attempting the same idea... Wyoming.
I totally agree. It's either volunteer or be voluntold...just like the military.
openupandsmile4me 2 weeks ago
Socialism has come to America.
AmericanPatriot2008 5 months ago
@AmericanPatriot2008 Yes. :-( But it is probably more accurate to say Socialism came and outright communism is quickly supplanting it.
anyusmoon1 5 months ago
@anyusmoon1
Are you kidding me, Moon?
You'll never educate a European like me about Communism. Would you like to trade places with me, and come live here under European Union dictats? You do realize we have no power to elect or remove the people who truly govern us in Europe? You Americans are in the begining stages of what we went through 40 years ago. If you think the USA is already Communist, then what would you call us Europeans?
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AmericanPatriot2008 5 months ago
@AmericanPatriot2008 I know it's probably a matter of degrees but the 'toughest nut' in the western varieties remaining to 'crack' is nevertheless the most indebted of China. I sense its only a matter of time.
anyusmoon1 5 months ago
a.k.a.
Freedom vs. Tyranny
Personal responsibility vs. laziness
Producers vs Looters (or Moochers)
Free choice vs. forced compliance
Humans and all other animals in nature will automatically choose freedom over
being dominated unless tricked into accepting domination by means of stirring up fears (real or imagined). Many other psy op tactics are also used to deceive. If people can learn to recognize that they are being manipulated, they will choose freedom and liberty everytime.
KDanagger 8 months ago
@KDanagger I've come to find out, sadly, that people will also choose all manner of darkness over light. They will choose lies over truth. They will accept slavery for a known factor rather than animated contest of freedom in the unknown. The Personal responsibility v laziness factor you mentioned has nothing to do with psy-ops its 100% individual fault and responsibility.
But certainly, the gov realizes there are basic 'types' and they cover the bases, for sure.
anyusmoon1 8 months ago
hese academics have destroyed native cultures by forcing schoolkids& censoring all native grandmothers farming etc wisdom-academics have never given up their slaves who grow their food/clothes for them etc- & would never stop killing living forests/wild animals- to stop making books- no welfare salary/retirement either-and they keep armies to force slaves to support these academics- all talk no action (block action even)
lmollot 10 months ago
@lmollot Many are waking up to the fact that an expanded 'reservation' has been created over all of the states... for every one!
anyusmoon1 10 months ago
@anyusmoon1 yes- im wondering if people dont want to get rid of borders- how can we be free to travel-freely move for all not just few rich-will borders continue changing as more wars defend or smash borders?-i m not sure im so scared of breaking down borders- natives in canada freely travel to usa as they dont recognize white mans borders-so- why do other races bother w borders ?except for weapons/military/policing border industries/stockmarkets?
lmollot 10 months ago
@lmollot I'm not saying I have all the answers nor that we will always agree on the answers we feel most strongly about however any hope of restoring some semblance of individual rights, states rights etc means that we have to go back to the founding documents and restore strict limits on GOV! not We the People. Will this satisfy the cultures that were overthrown? No, probably not. We the People have been overthrown and its simply not apparent to the sleeping body. Can we recoup? I don't know.
anyusmoon1 10 months ago
@anyusmoon1 you are right about who is going to define who "we the people" are- im not sure i want to go die for /or kill for borders which are ever changing-& allies "nations" which are ever changing-my brain cd not handle the contradictions-plus i feel that direct action is for me- not just for the shareholders with their armed soldiers/police-robin hood may not be moral- but richreligious industries claim they are better-but i dont see how-if im poor im not waiting for law s permission 2 eat
lmollot 10 months ago
We do things at our own risk. ie us vs nature or us vs governments, laws etc. Many will say that laws protecting this tract is ok but that tract isn't. Private property rights are foreign to many cultures; I understand this but don't have any answer for making harmony in the same sphere. That sphere might be within eye sight or within hand shake- who knows? Once the Lord reigns all things of the flesh will pass away. Jesus brought spirit to each individual but few are on that narrow path.
anyusmoon1 10 months ago
@anyusmoon1 if native matriarchies say they have an answer for this- i will not censor them- one friend told me "whoever grows their own veggies& nut trees - gets to eat- b/c slaves dont want to do 14 hr days/7 days/wk & die young of exhaustion anymore-seems logical to me
lmollot 10 months ago
@lmollot People will do all sorts of things to survive, even accept slavery. In fact if slavery is safe/peaceful, they will embrace it over the animated contest of freedom and service to God. These are the unwise virgins.
anyusmoon1 10 months ago
V v 4 year old temper tantrum 101. I see someone can't get over it...
YE4523 1 year ago
@YE4523 "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude more than the animating contest for freedom--go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms.Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!" Samuel Adams
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
lol you people are so mistaken it's embarrassing. you dont know how good you have it under a democracy until you live in a place without one.
YE4523 1 year ago
@YE4523 'you people'? I suppose someone should have told Thomas Jefferson that he was an embarrassment for warning against what 'you people' say is so good? Be specific about what you mean and who you are addressing. Dare to express yourself clearly so the ideas can be debated rather than using insult and invective.
Is it acceptable to object to having your right arm torn off because you who have no arms have it so much worse? Please!
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
@anyusmoon1 Yes, you people. People who only want to bitch about how bad you have it under a system that allows you so many freedoms. But instead of appreciating what you have, you act as if you're getting your arm torn off? really? A bit dramatic. I generalized, not to insult, but also not to single out comments people have posted. Instead of looking at all the bad in the world because it is endless, try looking into your own and be thankful.
YE4523 1 year ago
@YE4523 You are confused... the libertarian demands that gov respect individual God-given rights and God is given the thanks for opportunity and freedom, not gov.
Its a sad day when you socialists (under cover of 'democracy') throw the 'thankless' card at the most appreciative individuals alive-- its as though you really believe you have a leg to stand on in terms of lecturing about morality. Your ideas of plunder are horribly immoral and one that dies a violent death.
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
@anyusmoon1 and what god-given rights have been violated? you act as if government is supposed to be some well oiled machine that pleases everyone. I'm sorry to break your heart but such a government could never exist. And if you believe it could, I care to see if you could come up with an entire system that does. You couldn't, the brightest minds in history weren't able to. Horrible ideas of plunder die a violent death? really? Let's not involve rhetoric from Shakespeare with politics.
YE4523 1 year ago
@YE4523 What rights have been violated? lol Again, attempting to educate you on what a constitutional republic is, what the constitution says and the intent of the law to defend individual rights and little else in 500 characters or less is simply not going to happen especially in the midst of stupifying ignorance.
Anyone daring 2 quell those who demand excellence and justice from the written law only to concede the usurpations because 'it could be a lot worse' is not really worthy of debate.
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
@anyusmoon1 Is not worthy of debate? lol well isn't that the pot calling the kettle black...
An unrealistic argument where one melodramatically demands more from the law as if it's its own entity is truly what is not worthy of debate. You ask more of the law failing to realize imperfect people pass them, present them, and carry them out. People are going to make mistakes, it's human nature. Asking anymore of the "law" is asking more of imperfect people doing their jobs as best they can.
YE4523 1 year ago
@YE4523 ? Seriously, one minute you show humility and willingness to actually achieve reasonable discourse and then flip to a completely different demeanor. *sigh* regardless... The entire Bill of Rights has been stripped from the constitution and many more egregious things are being done every day to usurp jurisdiction and every other heinous thing a gov can do AGAINST THE LAW. These aren't 'MISTAKES' but deliberate usurpations (as the word implies), in other words-- treason.
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
@anyusmoon1 Last I checked, I still had the rights granted to me by the Bill of Rights, and did not strip those of any other while on duty as a police officer. I can only explain my different demeanor as being a result of one, you, stooping so low as to judge the worth of someone's argument, yet you demand humility but in you I find none.
YE4523 1 year ago
@YE4523 If 'last you checked' you might realize that rights are GRANTED BY GOD and PROTECTED/DEFENDED BY Gov as outlined in THE BILL OF RIGHTS!
It was you who began this thread with tossing about insults and with a high-horse attitude but again its typical of a troll to do such things.
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
@anyusmoon1 Say what you will, along with everyone else commenting on your videos, but all the knowledge on government in the world is worthless if you do not delve into and understand the human element to government and putting yourself in the shoes of us, those who work on behalf of it, rather than simply being a critic.
YE4523 1 year ago
If u were really listening & truly understood the our once great republic you would realize it was established by and for WE THE PEOPLE. Since you don't read my comments and address the content but solely choose to antagonize perhaps the quotes by the founding fathers r more persuasive?
Politics should be the part-time profession of every citizen who would protect the rights and privileges of free people and who would preserve what is good and fruitful in our national heritage.-- John Adams
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
It is u 'sir' who r obliged 2 know the constitution as u took a solemn oath 2 uphold & defend when hired as a public SERVANT (operative word servant). It is YOU who are grossly negligent and derelict in YOUR duty to even underSTAND the document, the ideas, you swore to uphold. SHAME ON YOU!
Your utterly shameless to not have ayes to SEE the degradation of our precious freedoms. You have the gall to ask which Bill of Rights has been usurped? We are DOOMED because of authority figures like you.
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
@YE4523 We are a country of laws, NOT MEN.
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
@YE4523 It wasn't Shakespeare I was quoting, troll, but Madison! A founding father and signer of the constitution and 4th president of the united States.
"Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security, or the rights of property; have in general been as short in their lives as they are violent in their deaths."
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
@anyusmoon1 I wish you a happy new year, may changes that you like come about to ease your mind. Have a good day madam. (just kidding sir lol)
YE4523 1 year ago
@YE4523 'Change' isn't required, restoration of law is. Lawlessness should trouble anyones mind, if there in their right-mind. Your sarcasm is unwelcome here.
Thomas Jefferson- But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce [the People] under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government...; Declaration of Independence.
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
@anyusmoon1 And you call us socialists? lol you can claim that, but a pure democracy wouldn't survive, nor would a purely socialist system. In every successful government, there are measures of both. The U.S. government is by far the most democratic system there is, but it cannot escape the inevitability that you need both elements. This type of hippie theory that everyone should be free to live freely in some kind of utopia is both unrealistic and is so incredibly lacking reason it's gross.
YE4523 1 year ago
Again, ur so horribly misguided both of understanding facts about a constitutional republic, its strictly limited federal duties to defend States & zero jurisdiction in the sphere of the individual Americans-- its embarrassing. I'm really hoping you just clicked United States when setting up your YT channel and are not really FROM here!
Hippies wanted collectivism & the Utopian socialist/democracy. There's nothing utopic about individual freedom, risk/reward- its hard work w/no guarantees.
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
@anyusmoon1 lol It's surprising, it's as if you're demanding more of people than God even does!
May I "earnestly" suggest that if you don't like the current system, perhaps you'd be happier doing research on a different country that may grant you "individual freedom" and moving there! Or clone yourself millions times over, infiltrate all positions of our government, and change it as you see fit. Otherwise, just stop complaining and enjoy life. Make that your resolution. I've said my piece.
YE4523 1 year ago
@YE4523 Madam, no. you may NOT make any suggestions to me and in fact why don't you return from whence you came as it is clear that foreigners such as yourself are only going to continue the infiltration into our free markets as 35 million illegal ones just like you (clones?) have done already.
You have a lot of NERVE as a foreigner who knows SQUAT about what you're talking about telling a citizen to leave! FU there's no PEACE in you madam!
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
@anyusmoon1 Comparing a legal citizen to that of an illegal alien? That too shows your lack of humility, as I would not believe you are Native American by ethnicity and thus, you are in fact as foreign to this country as I am. Whence? really? Calm down Shakespeare. And judging by your comment, ignorance finally manifests itself in a form all too commonly exhibited by my 4 year old, a temper tantrum lol.
YE4523 1 year ago
@YE4523 Typical baiting and switching troll constantly flicking from one 'thing' (usually invective, insult or other childish tactic and then, as all cowards do, call the other person childish! lol laughable) to another with zero focus on the facts and solely attacking 'grammar' oh my, what's next... spelling? If you understood one iota of the Bill of Rights and separations of powers you would stay on point and LEARN someone rather than flit about with inanities. Truly... get thee behind me.
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
@anyusmoon1 Only pointing out those things because I find it comical when people use language from the 18th century to make themselves sound important. Troll? When I am just mainly replying to things you have written, mixing in humor to possibly provide some relief for the scowl I know you must have...
YE4523 1 year ago
@YE4523 Try a genuine apology for 'relief'. Fat chance of that happening because you're hell bent on ridicule for some odd reason. But trolls do that sort of thing. They don't make their own videos, never show their face on camera, seldom post a position of any substance on their pages and merely come SNARKING about the comment sections of others with sniper like and cowardly sarcasm. Yep TROLL! Fits you like a glove.
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
@anyusmoon1 Now while as a Christian, I give thanks for freedom, I can agree, but I also give thanks for the minds he has given us to use. God didn't create government, he created people, people created government. Democracy isn't perfect but it's as good as it gets given our human nature. Reality is simple, people aren't perfect given our nature, therefore to sustain society, a government is needed to govern and set laws for the people.
YE4523 1 year ago
@YE4523 Sir/Madam the US has a constitutional republic form of govt and every state constitution guarantees the people a republican form of govt. I would earnestly recommend u review the basics before attempting to lecture about what 'we' have and what we should be appreciating.
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
@anyusmoon1 I'm not trying to lecture. But from a realist point of view, I'm simply suggesting that this is the way things are and will continue to be! I was not born here, but have since moved to the states and again, from a realist point of view and someone who has experienced worse types of government, the United States is heaven for individual rights compared to what is out there. You can speak on what the United States lacks, but what it offers far outweighs the bad...
YE4523 1 year ago
I appreciate the change in your tone, thank you. It's all fine a point of view includes hailing from another country and perhaps spending much of your adult life outside of the US. However... it is the duty of every State citizen to continually check and balance gov and the fed (and many states now too) is WAY out of control. Although you are ignorant of the essential properties of our form of gov now it will behoove you, as a naturalized citizen, to get on top of the situation & immediately.
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
Because if you don't get and then stay on top of it you will never be able to defend it or make constitutional decisions in your voting and other responsibilities. Plunder is not acceptible and its overdue that we restore the strictly limited gov and thus freedom-- which includes risk/reward features from which a free society truly prospers.
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
@anyusmoon1 I care to see what you would have to say if you lived under a government that didn't allow even the access to youtube as some indeed do not allow such access. And yet you feel, with all the rights you've been awarded, that you're getting your right arm torn off? "Please!" Put things into perspective and realize how small issues like that being discussed by the gentleman in the video are.
YE4523 1 year ago
People can speak ill of democracy all they want. The fact remains there isn't a system of government out there that's any better. Stop complaining.
YE4523 1 year ago
The fallacy of Democracy. Where the 51% control the 49%
eathis12 1 year ago
@eathis12 Doesn't it just it just floor you how often we here about 'spreading, defending, supporting, encouraging, glorifying "democracy"?
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
In my country a respected statistiscs bureau, is very much steering public opinion. While they should be neutral. I realised this a while back. But could never lay my finger on it. How they do it, why they do it. Or how to name it. Thank you!
Everytime a so called poll says 60-50 on a subject I get sceptical. 51-49 or 60-40 outcome on polls in my opinion are a sign someone or a group is trying to steer opinion. it is a very powerful tool. 40% would never investigate if truly 60% voted otherwise
LemonAndYoghurt 1 year ago
@LemonAndYoghurt Democracies eat themselves from within. In other words as soon as 51% decide that 49% are too wealthy a ping pong match of wealth distribution begins to take form.
I think this is why many followers of Christ do not abide in insurance schemes/policies for exactly the reason you present-- statistics is a human attempt to number Gods will and thwart or gamble against it. Skewing the statistics (polls) then becomes an all powerful position in the world.
Jesus is Truth.
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
Lovely to see this, the battle of these Idea's shared so clearly, and the unfolding theft of liberty and hope by the collectivists exposed so well. Humanity now faces the darkest of ages, come soon Lord Jesus!
dave4737 1 year ago
@dave4737 AMEN! And it's even lovelier to see brothers take time to comment on videos like these and moreover testify for our King of kings and Lord of lords, Christ Jesus!
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
To all who enjoyed this series please tune to the G Edward Griffin interview of Norman Dodd- a must see CLASSIC of any discriminating patriot desiring information on how we got into the mess we're in regarding the battle against collectivism.
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
But then what has happend is the idea of being non collect becomes collectivsm oonce a greater marijority oppeses clollectvism and that is what has happend today, the non collect majority has fallen ill the very thing it was trying to prevent becoming a collective.
akparker1 1 year ago
lol that's pretty good akparker. However, it's not majority agreement on a thing it's the thing on which/that they agree. Next, let me point out that voluntarily joining a collective is entirely a private matter the key distinction in this discussion is when GOVERNMENT FORCES collectivism that is slavery. See the difference?
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
Through fabianism we are slowly being shaped into a collective.
akparker1 1 year ago
Griffin is still at it after all those decades. Thank you for posting, though the parts could actually be 10 minutes each ;D
ZionistWorldOrder 1 year ago
This is excellent, very powerful and thought-provoking - thanks so much for posting this! I do worry about the concept or suggestion regarding "off-the-grid" living pockets and finding them.
This sounds appealing to me, but I also feel this could be a way of running away from dealing with the underlying problems, when I feel it is just these enlightened people who need to stay a part of the system, increasingly dysfunctional as it is admittedly becoming, to be the catalysts for the change!
jabotty369 1 year ago 2
@jabotty369 Glad you wrote and that you found it interesting.
Regarding your concern about 'running away from... underlying problems...' I agree, and would like to remind anyone feeling this way that once freedom is restored so does prosperity and consequently generosity and charity.
The founding fathers realized that principles of limited fed gov relied on the general publics ability to 'self-govern' and almost exclusively cited the Creator for such reliance.
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
This is really good stuff. Thanks for making it available. I became aquainted with Griffin in the documentary The Fall Of America & The Western World. He's amazingly clear and straightforward.
RobertJantz 1 year ago
@RobertJantz hmm i have been trying get a copy of that fall of america video but G. Edward doesn't sell it on his site and the other one doesn't accept forms of payment i'm willing to use.
Did you find a full version on line? thanks for commenting here by the way and glad you liked this playlist.
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
@anyusmoon1 - I purchased the dvds through David Ickes website.
RobertJantz 1 year ago
Thanks for the follow up.
anyusmoon1 1 year ago
Thank you so much uploading these videos. It is really appreciated.
michigankids 2 years ago 2
@michigankids glad you enjoyed them. Another 'must see' video series on my vlog is an interview of norman Dodd by G. Edward Griffin. Check them out. :-) share and fav, as those actions help spread the word and keep the truth in favor.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
Very informative post. Thank You :)
daizee106 2 years ago
Glad you watched and appreciate your commenting. Please share. Thank you.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
Excellent presentation! Thank you for your fine work. We need to turn this country around.
skateboardingchick1 2 years ago 2
Thank you for commenting, sharing faving and the rest, it all helps spread the word.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
I have a strong belief that America is ideally a land for non-collectivist individuals, and perhaps that is the natural way of mankind. The people of the collective feel empowered to tyrannize others on behalf of some fictional notion of a "group". That mentality is like a terminal illness that has gotten progressively worse, and I try to avoid those people like the plague but it gets more difficult each time there is a presidential election it seems.
RKarshenas 2 years ago
What a beautiful observation and coined as 'land-of-the-free'... which is cousin to home-of-the-brave' :-) Once freedom is curtailed for the sake of 'security' you get neither.
There are many pockets of off-the-grid living popping up over the country- I hope you find your niche. Thanks for posting.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
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pishdad 2 years ago
I'm quite vocal for most women my age and in fact pretty abrasive but i'll leave the stronger talk to others.
You're right though, we need the men to speak up and demand legislative solutions.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
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pishdad 2 years ago
Amen! I recommend them too. In fact they are conveniently playlisted on my channel. Thanks pishdad.
Please send 'em to your list and fave & save on your channel :-)
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
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pishdad 2 years ago
A caution re: zeitgeist its new age religious material right out of the NWO handbook.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
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pishdad 2 years ago
agreed.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
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pishdad 2 years ago
Collectivism doesn't necessarily have to be coercive. Libertarian collectivism is the antithesis of state collectivism.
HailRasec 2 years ago
It creept in b/c the Founding Fathers were holding millions of enslaved people and it amzaing me how that is never mentioned in the Myth of The founding fathers?
"TheConstitution Con" by Michael Tsarion
The founders were all Esquires, agents of the Crown
ngonea 2 years ago
I just watched this for the second time after seeing it first about this time last year. Now after all the reading I've done this year and being cognizant of this mentality, this interview gives me incredible insight! Thank you.
rollsroyce707 2 years ago
So happy to hear it. Your comment is true of so many things, people and events rich in information and quality. The first listening gets through a few layers, and each return produces more clarity.
The Norman Dodd interview is a gem as well. In fact Ed Griffin on 11/12 told Alex Jones that the Dodd piece he did is the most telling of all testimony in his 49 years of research.
Thank YOU for comprehending and commenting.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
Wow! this is the best series I have ever seen. Hands down.
Spencerianism 2 years ago
I'm so glad there are folks enjoying this. If you're up to it, check out the G. Edward Griffin interview of Norman Dodd (The Hidden Agenda), Woah! now THAT is some incredible testimony by eyewitness Congressional investigator Dodd. 6-parts approx 1 hour.
If you watch, drop me a line to let me know if you agree that it's a must see.
meantime thank you so much for commenting here about this series, very appreciated.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
COLLECTIVISM EQUALS MOB RULE
GodBlesstheWorld2008 2 years ago 2
Exactly.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
Democracy=Mob Rule=Collectivism
pishdad 2 years ago
I agree!
GodBlesstheWorld2008 2 years ago 2
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pishdad 2 years ago
COLLECTIVISM EQUALS TYRANNY.
GodBlesstheWorld2008 2 years ago 9
AMEN! Especially when the laws of the land call for a constitutional republic. Legislating anything outside the enumerated powers, especially concerning Federal Gov usurping states and the rights of the people is SEDITION.
And the Bible prohibits sedition.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
Thank you G*dBlesstheWorld for subbing my humble vlog. :-)
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
NO PROBLEM. I LIKE THE VIDS.
GodBlesstheWorld2008 2 years ago
Make sure to check out the Norman Dodd interview by G. Edward Griffin. It's six parts and conveniently playlisted on my vlog page. It is mind-blowing! :-)
Would love to hear your comments on it.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
That is good math my friend. God bless you too.
2BadImBetterThanYou 2 years ago
Thank you so much for the post!
mzambo666 2 years ago 3
You're so welcome.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." -Benjamin Franklin
WSOR4025 2 years ago 12
Yes and imagine the compound difficulty voting themselves money PRINTED OUT OF THIN AIR.
Those of us who are brave and honorable to live without, or live within our means, or live with out assistance will be fought for our very substance.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
He can explain things well because it was a learning process for him- as he mentioned. He was once of the collectivist mindset so he knows how they think.
Sort of the same with me. I used to think making laws with the good intention of society in mind was a great thing. It took a while to understand how and why all of these laws backfire in some way. The cons end up outweighing the pros.
Drexel2008 2 years ago
So true- Have you watched GE Griffins interview of Norman Dodd for gripping testimony on how, when and why the US education system has been usurped to BUILD and create the very mindset you (and everyone else) fell victim to?
Think about it... where did you and I first learn about creating laws, government, public policy vs. law, culture, etc? Why have all of us 'collectively' abandoned common sense and the INTENT of our founding fathers? EDUCATION SYSTEM gubmint schools. Check it out.
anyusmoon1 2 years ago
G. Edward Griffin is a great man.
qminusis 3 years ago 4
I agree :-)
anyusmoon1 3 years ago
Excellent post thank you.
conciousgood 3 years ago 3
Isn't Griffin great!? Have you seen his interview of Norman Dodd? See my vlog for the 4 to 5 part playlist. It will blow your mind hearing testimony from a first hand witness how our education system has been usurped by non-profit foundations.
anyusmoon1 3 years ago
For Darkchaos1993, the elections were rigged through either voter suppression, activist judges on the supreme court,and to a certain point complicity on the part of the Democrats in 2000 and 2004 not to challenge the elections. There was a failure from 2000 by any party to seek to correct the problem. Computer voting was not the answer. Then there was Carl Rove. Is it explained enough?
eotto2001 3 years ago
good reply
anyusmoon1 3 years ago
can someone explain to me how bush was elected twice as president?
(everyone is like "booo bush sucks!" and yet most of them were the ones that voted for him)
i dont really know that much, but i could use an answer
Darkchaos1993 3 years ago
I'm not being flippant here but... there are few 'We The People' people that have any bearing on a presidential election. Even those that voted for him didn't really have a lot to do with him getting elected.
The bigger question is... Bush and Kerry were nearly indistinguishable from one another and the same goes 4 McLame / OweBama.
Until we return this country 2 Constitutional Republic principles, limited federal gov, sound monetary and non-interventionist foreign policies it doesn't matter.
anyusmoon1 3 years ago
For Darkchaos1993, the elections were rigged through either voter suppression, activist judges on the supreme court,and to a certain point complicity on the part of the Democrats in 2000 and 2004 not to challenge the elections. There was a failure from 2000 by any party to seek to correct the problem. Computer voting was not the answer. Is it explained enough?
eotto2001 3 years ago
The bullshitters like to say who did this and that. I would ask, was the cold war won by Reagan and his policies? Not according to this speaker and his Leninism vs Fabianism lecture. It seems even the Leninists have postponed or delayed and tried a new strategy and become the fabianists vs the other fabianists. NWO according to who?
ChupacabraYetiElmo 3 years ago
I am a bit ashamed of my country. Although I still hold it's once cherished values close to my heart. I have to wonder which is it that governs our land, is it greed, or freedom for the individual. Or just freedom for those who have the power and money to gaurantee their own.
ChupacabraYetiElmo 3 years ago
You claim to be ready to accept truth, aka zero-bullshit, right?
anyusmoon1 3 years ago
Well here it is... the blame falls entirely on American individuals for allowing the usurpation, the responsibility-ditchers, the the envious impoverished of those who have more, or different items, lifestyles or perhaps education then they.
The blame goes to We The People. And it is We the People that will restore sovereignty and all the pains in our asses that sovereignty means.
The country was founded on a government issued powers by and for the people. PERIOD.
anyusmoon1 3 years ago
What would happen to a society in a world full of other isms, if it didn't practice at least some collectivism? How would it defend itself against potential invaders. The idea of a society with an armed force is collectivism yet if it didn't have it it would be run over by a mob of collectivists.
ChupacabraYetiElmo 3 years ago
Volunteering to join a military unit is altogether a different life-style BUT the key is this:
1) Must be VOLUNTARY
2) Must be based on an oath to uphold the Constitution.
Charity functions the same way, if you voluntarily choose to become a part of an organization, or religion, your works are co-mingled with others. The key is you can UN-VOLUNTEER at any time.
anyusmoon1 3 years ago
Let me rephrase this question. My question is...when does collectivism become detrimental to a free society such as the framers of the U.S.constitution ideology. Realism tells me that this society wouldn't keep or fund a defense large enough to deter an invader that doens't follow this same idealism. So some collectivism must be introduced in order to defend that ideology.
ChupacabraYetiElmo 3 years ago
History is to those who want to boast about it in victory later to be slaughtered by that which deceived it.
Look at the current world!
I look at the world now and see superpowers who use third world countries as pawns in their chess game, and they wonder why these countries harbor the so called terrorists who have no real defense against this shitty play but are just the suckers who get the shaft when assholes play chess.
ChupacabraYetiElmo 3 years ago
History my friend, if you dare to watch the other fascinating interview BY G. Edward Griffin OF a gentleman by the name of Norman Dodds, has been stolen from you- re-written by those who want to reinstruct on the matter of sovereignty, power of the individual and the rights to flourish or perish.
Watch that video series then comment on history.
anyusmoon1 3 years ago
It is a Truman thing. Has the U.S. let it's military industrial complex introduce to much collectivism past the point of what was the countries original concept or has the cold war introduced to much military industrial complex into the modern political world of the U.S. that it has passed the point of no return?
ChupacabraYetiElmo 3 years ago
Greed and power are always a corrupting influence, even to those who's motives were pure upon receiving it.
ChupacabraYetiElmo 3 years ago
Those who hunger for power and become greedy with it MAY cause harm to the public and if they do they can be stopped- Again, only by We The People. You can not continue to look for solutions from government, the very scoundrels you talk about.
anyusmoon1 3 years ago
More views for this vid!
CorollaKing 3 years ago 2
I there was not a collectivist response to Nazi Germany, would USA be able to stop Hitler, who had instilled collectivism in Germany?
kanalje 3 years ago
That is not necessarily as clear cut as one would hope. Average American individuals did NOT want the US to enter WWII (like WWI). Thus, whether concocted or not, Pearl Harbor became the motivation.
1920's through 1940's the Federal Gov was exploding with collectivist growth.
Even though the idea behind government is collectivism there is still 'branding' or tribal issues, ie coke v pepsi or democrat v republican, similarly US vs Nazi Germany
anyusmoon1 3 years ago
Tell a man that he owns this enormous ranch. Tell him he must work hard to keep it. Tell him he can remain free as long as he tends to it and protects it and his family will eat and thrive due to his efforts. he owns it and will be proud of it and defend against threats. You own the ranch not him. He is really a slave. You've convinced him to do all of the labor for free and you sit and collect. this is what America was created to do for the european banking families. we are slaves. Perfected.
jefftackett 3 years ago 3
And soon to be 'chipped' just like dogs. :-(
anyusmoon1 3 years ago
Wouldnt true individualism be possible only if all nations were abolished? What is patriotism if not another form of collectivism, worship of nation over self? Maybe if the US Constitution and all other constitutions and nations were abolished, we could then be true individuals instead of first being Americans, Chinese or Canadians.
iammasterlion 4 years ago
Not saying our constitutional republic is PERFECT but its the only government ever created to hold the individual as having rights by G*D (natual rights) and not those granted by a monarchy or by concensus.
Anarchy is impossible, yes. A constitutional republic proved itself until the international money interests forced themselves into the monetary policy- ala greedy, stupid, corrupt politicians.
anyusmoon1 4 years ago
It was also advised by Thomas Jefferson to have a revolution every 20 years to keep the government in check. The people are charged with jealously guard against corrupt gov.
anyusmoon1 4 years ago
No, individuals to thrive merely needs minimal government, where the only force is used for protection from outside threats (other hostile nations), and internal threats (crime against property and people). By definition of our own Constitution (and Bill of rights) limits on collectivism (the Federal government) was applied, and people's individual rights laid out so that they could not be violated, and in effect Jefferson's "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" be granted all individuals.
JSenator06 3 years ago 3
Lovely. Very nicely stated.
anyusmoon1 3 years ago
true, yet the human condition will always force governments to resort to its darker nature. A "One world community" governed by a single law source will result almost instantaniusly in a terranical system. For instance, without outside forces, a government which turns nasty can't be stopped. If you are the only law and only military, your corruption is unstoppable. Nazis stopped by others.
jefftackett 3 years ago 2
Perfectly said.
anyusmoon1 3 years ago
I don't think that we will ever be able to let go the collectivism entirely, since the alternative would be anarchism.. Am I correct?
Skoda130 4 years ago
No anarchism is not the constitutional option available to us. At least not without a constitutional amendment abolishing the constitution- pretty absurd.
The opposite of collectivism is individualism and is happily supported by our constitution NOW if it were followed as it should be.
anyusmoon1 4 years ago
But when there is one leader - a person or party or parlement - it is collectivism again, isn't it? The leader as the shepperd for the masses...
(sorry if I look dumb :( )
Skoda130 4 years ago
It is quite unlikely, but not impossible, for a system having one leader to ring in individualism BUT without benefit of checks and balance, lifespan of that one guy and the voice of individuals being heard and defended.
anyusmoon1 4 years ago
Forgive me, but I'm very sceptical about that.
I think that power corrupts, and that people need to be corrupt to reach the top. Or else they will disappear silently from the stage, or worse.
I think collectivism is inherent to a society ruled by an government. By beople. Theoretically your idea is possible. But ONLY theoretically, I think.
Skoda130 4 years ago
The system worked prior to foreign banking interests jealously took over the monetary policy of our united States.
The individual liberty you obtain as a right of natural law proved itself. Terrible manipulation occurs with money interests.
anyusmoon1 4 years ago
A collective is a group of people who share or are motivated by at least one common issue or interest, or work together on a specific project.
The people collected money to finance the schools. Damn collectivism, has it´s clutches everywhere LOL
DeletedDelusion 4 years ago
Voluntary is the key word here.
anyusmoon1 4 years ago
Agreed, it always should be voluntary.
In many cases a relationship was voluntary at first, but became oppresive later on.
Many so called "liberators" are the future dictators.
DeletedDelusion 4 years ago
Absolutely. And this is what our founding fathers new when they set up a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy (majority rules). Thank you for your clarity.
anyusmoon1 4 years ago
Thanks for an constructive and concert answer
and i might take you up on the book, thoug i am an slow reader, it is interesting to learn more about things that you (my self) prinsipialy dont
agrees whit, this sure has widened my field of view.
stian1986 4 years ago
Why thank you myfriend :-) The Federick Bastiat thing is really a treatise not a book, it's only about 90 pages and will absolutely astound you in it's brilliant explanation of the law and society, the law and natural rights, the law and plunder. I await your, inevetibably, interesting and gentlemanly(?) response.
anyusmoon1 4 years ago
ok i might sound abit bragin back ther not the intention, but according to UN norway are some of the 3 best contry to live in the world the past few years
stian1986 4 years ago
And if I want to live in a collectivist environment I might consider Norway. But until I change my mind I prefer being an individualist, enjoying my natural rights and freedom.
If AMericans want communism, or its little brother socialism, then the constitution must be dismantled. Do Americans want the constitution dismantled? I don't think so.
anyusmoon1 4 years ago
Recommended reading on this matter is as follows:
'THE LAW' by Frederick Bastiat. Please read that treatise and visit again with a comment. I would really enjoy hearing your opinions.
anyusmoon1 4 years ago
P.S. it's NEVER bragging to be a patriot of ones country.
The deepening problem in America is that our laws don't permit socialism yet the congress is taking us in that direction whether its lawful or not.
I'm VERY patriotic and want to force the government back into its lawful state.
anyusmoon1 4 years ago
If Americans want communism, Cuba is only 45 minutes away from Miami. *LOL* They can have their communism over there. *sarcastically* Then come back and tell me how great it is. :)There was a reason why my parents left that retched little island it's falling apart, due to lack of individuals standing against shitty governments and it's repeating here in America. Deeply apologize for the bad words. Please understand, I have no other way to express my anger towards such regimes. :(
JuciShockwave 4 years ago 3
Oh if I could only give 5 thumbs at one time :-) great reply.
anyusmoon1 4 years ago
Sorry for the drifting there, but agen my question are, can you give me some example's for how/why Collectivism (and you may use socialism as an example) are a bad ting.
disclaimer; bad English not my native language.
stian1986 4 years ago
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Collectivism takes away individual rights and diminishes the strong individual and bolsters the weak individual.
Bolstering weak individuals must always be a voluntary act, otherwise it is theft. ie When a person with less than you breaks into your home and takes your property or food it is wrong. It doesn't make it right just because government takes it from you to give to them.
anyusmoon1 4 years ago
i want to ask you how Collectivism is an bad thing. are you afraid to lose your freedom, is that it, freedom above all? i my self live in THE best country to live in according to living standards of ALL its inhabitant. That country it The Kingdom of Norway, witch is a very socialism ruled country, even the right "winged" politicians agreed to this rule.
stian1986 4 years ago
I thank you for your civility and courtesy. All questions are welcome... My answer is this: Individuals exist first; only individuals can make a group. The founders of our constitutional republic understood this concept and wrote very specific laws protecting individuals first.
anyusmoon1 4 years ago
Actually the first schools were not just communities getting together but rather mostly as an extension of missionary work, so what you ended up seeing in most places where schools moving in first as a part of the church, church meetings were held there and then when the support was there they would build their churchs. At any rate, just a historical thing I suppose, but essentially that was part of the early community in that the community was often an expression of those common heritages,
wyattmcintyre 4 years ago
religions and in that it was the communities that did build the schools and worked towards educating the people where they could in the basic understanding of what it means to be a community, what it means to find themselves linked together as individuals moving towards a common goal rather than a collective where there is this universality mentality that offers to it no senses of the uniqueness of the people.
wyattmcintyre 4 years ago
Thomas Jefferson and James Madison both supported, where the need arose, funding education of students but it was never in the sense of being forced and it was in those places where need and ability was established. To see this one just has to look at the Jefferson Presidency for example and his legacy of education. But the key thing is, as I stated, it was never forced or taken over by the government but only as circumstances arose.
wyattmcintyre 4 years ago
In this they showed an understanding of a government that sees people as individuals and adjusting itself accordingly, not as a collective all requiring the same thing.
At any rate, I like his point about voluntary compliance no longer being there. The problem is that since we have moved further away from these principles it is going to take time,
wyattmcintyre 4 years ago
a lot of time and effort to change the mentality and the thinking of people that they might once more respect the idea of rights with responsibilities.
At any rate, thanks for pointing me here and sharing, it was an informative experience. God bless
wyattmcintyre 4 years ago
You're welcome and I'm glad you enjoyed the series.
As a historian you will REALLY enjoy a six part series where G. Edward Griffin interviews Norman Dodds. A MUST SEE. And as usual I would love to read your comments.
anyusmoon1 4 years ago
Great videos, excellent information and forewarning of the collectivism movement. If only people would invest more of their free & spare time to learn about things like this & teach their children of the importance of the individual and also of others rights as an individual as well. I agree, collectivism is an ideal tool for those who have less then honorable intentions towards freedom and the rights of individual.
eye8one2 4 years ago
Its sad, those who wish to rule by & thru it, amass wealth/riches, needed to buy others thru the ignorance of Sheople. They have sold their future 4 amusement rather then build wealth gain wisdom to guard individual freedoms they should enjoy. When ignorant stop trading their riches 4 amusement & opt 4 wealth/wisdom, we may just have a chance. Ignorant amongst us, create Kings/Gods (sic) thru their want to be amused.
eye8one2 4 years ago
Couldn't agree more eye8one2 and by the way... I enjoyed your treatise on the "Sheople" I am waiting for part V and will offer a reply at that time.
Yes, we are a country of governmentally dumbed down and over stimulated.
anyusmoon1 4 years ago
New Hampshire is a great state--just too damn cold for me. I wish they could switch places with Florida, then I might consider moving back to the States. BTW, read G. Edward Griffin books.
bigsurjune 4 years ago
Florida didn't make sense for the Free-State project, if that's what you are refering to :-) The project required a state of less than 1 million in population. There are a couple of mid-western states attempting the same idea... Wyoming.
anyusmoon1 4 years ago