(n.b. comments are in reverse order. this comment chronologically follows the one below.) caveat: the artistic achievement is technical and derivative rather than original creativity. there are websites with access to clips to allow anyone to do this sort of thing. but the masher cannot possibly have the aesthetic integrity of the source artists. sources should be acknowledged (intellectual and artistic property), and not sold as new discoveries of documentation of actual events.
so it's a mashup. interesting dovetailing, were tempos & pitches were manipulated, or did the editor found clips in the same key, tempo, and compatible harmonic structures? some kind of achievement in its own right. this mashup thing is becoming something of a niche artform in other musical genres (dangermouse's grey album, mashup of beatles white album & JZ's black album). jazz is where i'm at, but it's no more sacred than, say, the beatles, or elvis, or satchmo, or beethoven or whomever.
Miles acknowledged that Dolphy could play, Miles just didn't like the WAY he played. On the other hand, he thought Archie Shepp didn't know HOW to play. Well, Miles was not the sweetest guy on earth, was he?
This is a ridiculous attempt to splice Eric Dolphy into this Miles Davis track. It is doubtful that Miles ever had Dolphy record with him. They were both great artists but Dolphy was not Mile's style at all.
I suspected that this might have been an edit; as Miles Davis allegedly spoke unflatteringly about Eric Dolphy's playing. Still, John Coltrane and Dolphy were cool and influenced each other (some saying Dolphy having the greater impact in the exchange). I'm wondering if you intended to introduce those less familiar with Dolphy thru 'Trane and Miles?
I think the best homage one can pay musicians like these would be to leave their music alone and don't jumble incongruent tracks together - it sounds stupid
(n.b. comments are in reverse order. this comment chronologically follows the one below.) caveat: the artistic achievement is technical and derivative rather than original creativity. there are websites with access to clips to allow anyone to do this sort of thing. but the masher cannot possibly have the aesthetic integrity of the source artists. sources should be acknowledged (intellectual and artistic property), and not sold as new discoveries of documentation of actual events.
srcar3 1 month ago
so it's a mashup. interesting dovetailing, were tempos & pitches were manipulated, or did the editor found clips in the same key, tempo, and compatible harmonic structures? some kind of achievement in its own right. this mashup thing is becoming something of a niche artform in other musical genres (dangermouse's grey album, mashup of beatles white album & JZ's black album). jazz is where i'm at, but it's no more sacred than, say, the beatles, or elvis, or satchmo, or beethoven or whomever.
srcar3 1 month ago
why not? so what?
clearview360x 2 months ago
Miles acknowledged that Dolphy could play, Miles just didn't like the WAY he played. On the other hand, he thought Archie Shepp didn't know HOW to play. Well, Miles was not the sweetest guy on earth, was he?
nobodady1 3 months ago
haha this is actually pretty funny
seerskater 4 months ago
This is a ridiculous attempt to splice Eric Dolphy into this Miles Davis track. It is doubtful that Miles ever had Dolphy record with him. They were both great artists but Dolphy was not Mile's style at all.
esolarceoaol 5 months ago
this editing sucks u thought no one would notice, its lame
alexdelarge66 7 months ago
I suspected that this might have been an edit; as Miles Davis allegedly spoke unflatteringly about Eric Dolphy's playing. Still, John Coltrane and Dolphy were cool and influenced each other (some saying Dolphy having the greater impact in the exchange). I'm wondering if you intended to introduce those less familiar with Dolphy thru 'Trane and Miles?
4BA88F 7 months ago
I think the best homage one can pay musicians like these would be to leave their music alone and don't jumble incongruent tracks together - it sounds stupid
Blackgeoff1 1 year ago 10
duh
aaronamccoy 1 year ago
So What ?
Samuraidaterokuemon 1 year ago
OH MY FUCKTHIS IS SACRELIGIOUS. VIOLATING THE SACRED TOMBS OF JAZZ'S ELITE MOFOS. just kidding. honestly, who gives a fuck?
kevinm4435 1 year ago
@kevinm4435 haha yeah im with you
seerskater 4 months ago
Monsieur dtobiac. ça vas bien?Ce film est ma montage(Remix).
L'hommage des Eric Dolphy, John Coltraine,Miles Davis et Big Bird.
À quoi bon qu c'est vrai? Nothing mistaken in this universe, don't worry .
Regarde autre mon film(Round midnight baker)
L'hommage des Thelonias Monk et Gaston Bachelard( Pâte de Rêve).
J'ai été un pâtissier à Paris en 1980-82.J'ai habité Rue Fondary(déjà disparu).
Près de La Motte Piqet. La Bastille qu J'ai été en Mitterrand gagner exist plu?
Kind of Rêve, Au revoir
Samuraidaterokuemon 1 year ago
Thank you,
Eric Dolphy with Miles Davis and John Coltrane (Trane) !!??
I believed a mistake until Eric Dolphy on bass clarinet at 3:40 during less of two minutes.
A rare live record of So What, interesting about the evolution of Coltrane in free style. Under influence of Eric Dolphy ?
When and where ? In Japon ?
dtolbiac 1 year ago
@dtolbiac This is a Dolphy solo from his record "Last Date," which has been spliced into the "So What."
When and where? Nowhere and never.
PaulDWeiss 1 year ago
Thank you for answer
But I don't think you have right to make this sort of editing without any warning.
And what is the musical interest ?
Leave Eric Dolphy, Miles Davis and John Coltrane rest in peace.
dtolbiac 1 year ago
gayyyyyy
danylongshaft 1 year ago