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  • @gateman48

    that was honestly the first tine he called me out on it but I love him anyway, he is th only one in his family to complete college so he's not an idiot, just religious. I find him still believing in wives tales funny but to each his own

  • I'm thankful for this guy serving our country, I plan on joining the navy's masters at arms (military police) and my father said that they won't accept me. I told him there are suck things as atheists in foxholes he threatened to punch my teeth out because "I attacked him", this video proved his ass that I'm right and now we can go on. this guy deserves more then medals

  • @TheAtheistTaco No disrespect but your father is an idiot. Didn't he read the bible, kindness, love and forgiveness. I am very glad that my entire family is Atheist right down to my son, he came to be that way on his own. What makes me ill is watching all the soldiers on their knees before combat getting those little jeeznips shoved in their mouths and getting blessed, like it mattered. It's nothing but a mental band-aid. I hope you achieve your goal as an MP!

  • @TheAtheistTaco I still carry one of my old atheist dog-tags on my key-chain. I received very little discrimination for my atheism in the Air Force. GO for it!

  • Afterlife? Maybe.

    Organized religion.....no,

  • This is a sad story which only goes to show the absence of a divine creator.

  • 5 People are Taliban

  • this made me sad, thank you for serving our country.

  • @Gnomefro And you think people wouldn't come up with ways to murder little girls for getting educations and other crazy crap without religion? Again, that's the biggest fairy tale I can think of. Humankind has rarely endorsed civilizations that follow logical and thoughtful codes of conduct, religious or otherwise.

  • @Mulinaster Religion has always been used as the justification so no, I don't think they'd come up with ways to justify murder of little girls for getting an education and other crazy crap without religion. Religion is special in that it puts itself above criticism because it claims to have a supernatural unquestionable being dictating it, without that being you can't convince a populace to justify such cruelty. Sure there's going to be a few people still twisted, but not mass populations.

  • it is our life being limited that makes it precious

    the suffering that helps us appreciate the things that cause happiness

    eventually a heaven will turn into a hell...from mere boredom.

  • If your an atheist and sometimes u feel alone always remember, as time goes and the human race learns more and more, the day will come when there is no religion and maby mankind will live in peace, dnt give in, live your life the way u want to, your a freethinker, u earned it

  • Nice story, but it clearly indicates that these beliefs are generated purely by emotional appeal! Yes it's tragic what happened and it's a crying shame that bad things happen to good people but that doesn't change the reality! It's comforting to think these people are now enjoying heaven but I believe they have just passed away ,which based on reality, is the most likely, thanks for sharing your experience though :-)

  • Great story.

  • @PirateMonkeyFilmz It's in the post, if you read it. The line right before the last. The suggestions made by various atheists in this thread(and to some extent within the video itself) is that they believe getting rid of religion in Afghanistan would solve many of its problems. Do you know the future? Are you a fortune teller? If not, then it is a *belief*(perhaps based on evidence, perhaps not) that such would happen. In this context, I'd suggest fairy tale is an apt description of such.

  • @Mulinaster "The suggestions made by various atheists in this thread(and to some extent within the video itself) is that they believe getting rid of religion in Afghanistan would solve many of its problems. Do you know the future? Are you a fortune teller? If not, then it is a *belief*"

    Puhlease. There are huge problems *directly* caused by Islamism in Afghanistan. Obviously these would necessarily go away if the superstition went.

  • @Mulinaster The only fairy tale aspect of that is that it isn't realistic to expect a largely uneducated and tribal population to be able to put a functional society together, so we can't guarantee that a secular society would be better. However, it would be a society where little girls wouldn't get murdered for getting an education.

  • @Mulinaster Yes it is a belief, but a it's a belief backed up by correlation. Guess what nations have the highest crime rates, murder, rape, theft, etc? I'll give you a hint, they're all populated by a heavily religious community. Look at more secular run countries and these crime rates drop substantially. While correlation doesn't always = causation the fact that the correlation is there makes the belief justified until proven otherwise.

  • Islam is just a vehicle for an already agressive people of the mid-east; I would sooner point my finger at natural selection, which chooses who can survive the mid east social structure, than religion.

  • Do Fox News knows about this? Show them

  • Wonderful and touching video. THank you

  • @xephyr1000

    "Wonderful and touching video. THank you"

    All thanks to Benjamin Tupper. :-)

  • "THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS NOT IN ANY SENSE FOUNDED ON THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION." (Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11: Written during the Administration of George Washington and signed into law by John Adams.)

  • @MagicTellaVision It's further supported by the 1st Amendment, and referenced elsewhere as the separation of church and state. But those are facts, and Christians aren't interested in facts. (i.e. evolution, global warming, who caused most of America's debt, etc.). You can't convinced ignorant people who have compartmentalized their minds against reason with facts. This is why the world is going to hell in a handbasket, and the Christians sit smiling thinking they're going to heaven.

  • Ah yes. Decades upon decades of interior and exterior violence, poverty, drug trade and a general distaste for the west which has little to do with religion and everything to do with "let's hate the outsider" not to mention we probably caused some of that hatred ourselves. Obviously getting rid of Islam or religion in this country will work wonders! If anyone's believing in fairy tales, it's the atheists on this one.

  • @Mulinaster We believe in fairy tales, right. Removing muslims from this country would violate the first amendment.

  • @Mulinaster What kind of fairy tales have you read?

  • @Mulinaster Can you give me the name of the fairy tale we believe in? You can't. Absence of religion is not a religion. Absence of a fairy tale is not a fairy tale.

  • As an atheist in America going to war for some uneducated-rich politicians is out of the question. It goes against reason to fight for something that really does not have a clear cause.

  • The saying 'There are no Atheists in foxholes' is no argument for faith, it is an argument against foxholes. I have spent a good part of my adult life in the USMC, too much of it in the middle east. I am an Atheist. Walk in the blood of your brother and then you can talk to me about your faith. I used to be a Christian and now I know better. One more thing, all marines of faith who had time.....died praying.

  • The saying 'There are no Atheists in foxholes' is no argument for faith, it is an argument against foxholes. I have spent a good part of my adult life in the USMC, too much of it in the middle east. I am an Atheist. Walk in the blood of your brother and then you can talk to me about your faith. I used to be a Christian and now I know better.

  • well said said  cpt. thanks for serving.

  • What a both uplifting yet heartbreaking story. It gives hope for the future of Man that a kid like Fayaz(probably misspelled) could have an open mind about morality without god in such a violently dogmatic part of the world but very sad that such a promising youth could die in such a horrific manner. Also thanks for debunking the old myth of "there are no atheists in fox holes". It's time we show the rest of the country that atheists are indeed patriotic. Peace.

  • bad for the kid but that says much about religion.. it kills, iam an atheist and he is an hero for mankind for his open mind if all where like him there will be no wars

  • Being an amazing person and having a friend to remember him by is the very definition of heaven in my opinion.

  • If anyone deserves 72 virgins in heaven its comrade Fayaz

  • @NotAG4yName

    Poor virgins. :-(

  • @wimsweden seriously, what an incredibly chauvinistic doctrine, to imply that men will earn women, like chattel

  • @bossmonkeykj

    I agree.

  • @bossmonkeykj actually that whole 72 virgins thing is probably the biggest misconception Westerners have about the Qu'ran. Watch this video:

    ted dot com/talks/lang/eng/lesley_haze­lton_on_reading_the_koran.html

    It'll tell you about it better than I can.

  • @bossmonkeykj

    Does it actualy specify FEMALE virgins? O.o

  • Thanks for sharing. We do need to be reminded so life and freedom are not taken for granted. We ought to work hard with each other on the things that we agree on and debate hard on the things that we disagree.

  • The Human Race is collectively insane.

  • @Nickton3212 There is no such thing as heaven or hell. However that young man sounded like an amazing person.

  • @mikeyo1234 see,, look at all these comments around with much love to this man and the THOUGHT THAT IF THEIR IS AHEAVEN THAT HE DESERVES IT and the first thing tHAT COMES FROM YOU IS THIS NO god?? WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU. YOU MAKE ME SICK, IF YOUR FAMILY MEMBER DIES AND A FUNERAL IS GIVEN, IS THAT WHAT YOULL SAY "THEIR IS NO GOD HEHE" im sure not all athiests are like this and if they are then congradulations on your high morals you just won 1st prize in the asshole award!!! king anal!!

  • Thanks for sharing this.

  • Well said, sir.

  • @corvett442 - Even if there was a god why would he "bless America"? This is the stupid thing about believes they are fighting each other both believing god is on their side. Then no matter how many die or who wins they are thanking god at the end of it? I beggars belief.

  • Just want it to be clear that this video was not made by Benjamin Tupper. The commentary and photos are his, but he has no affiliation with this video or website.

  • Naturally. I wouldn't want anyone thinking otherwise.

  • Great story. Thank you for your service, to our country and to Enlightenment.

    I am saddened by the loss of your friend.

  • Thank you for sharing this. A hopeful message and yet sad as well.

  • @VeritasLiber

    Thanks. :-)

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