alot of people dont realize how important a resonating chamber\THE DRUM is in the yamaha version, its what helps you get more volume and a balanced drum-like sound.. and i believe the reason your getting a ping noise is because you have not shock mounted the speaker. i made one out of an old crate 15 watt 8" guitar speaker. i used a plastic bucket and shock mounted it using tied down cables. try getting a cheap first act drum from walmart for kids. they sound great
@timothywaldvogel Very good point -- the pinging is coming from the tuning of the drum, not the mount though. i didn't want a secondary resonance from a drumshell, and if I did I'd want a big one like DW Drums' "Woofer" resonators. In either case, it'd be fun to play around with different shell sizes and constructions to see (or hear) their effect on the sound.
@skatepark02 Hey, yes and no. The particular mic I was using didn't pick up as low, so i'd have to use some pretty ugly EQ followed by a bunch of gain up. It could be done, but the subkick makes it much faster. (Assuming there's enough mic channels for it, of course!)
Yes I hear it young man! I hope you get what I'm trying to say!
I'm a recording engineer. I pay the bills doing this!
If you have the sub mic, have any other mic to capture the smack (the transient attack) and blend those.
Also all those extra low freq that the Large cone is picking up, may not be suitable for commertial components.. So its double work! those freq must be rolled off.. like below 50hz
@girotube It gives it alot more punch but using a good bass drum mic with the sub kick gives it the energy to hit you with force when listening back. also having a well dampened drum and tuned one helps too
Oh, it cost me just £8 to make! HAaha. My mate gave me an old tom drum, the speaker I already had, mic cable I already had. Just had to by resistors, bungee cord, XLR chassis type socket and hose clip. A saving of around £200 :)
just built mine today, sounds amazing! I built mine inside a tom drum and used a chassis XLR jack on the shell, bridged a 160 ohm resistor across pins 2 and 3, and a 1k ohm inline on both + and - wires. Worked first time with no fiddling. I'm ecstatic. Can't wait to do some recording.
Sounds awesome!!! I'm building one. I have an broken old entertainment system subwoofer,( I nearly threw it out, glad I didn't) reckon I can rip out the speaker and use that. If I can get mine sounding like yours, with good EQ and compression the kick would sound massive :-)
It's a very simple thing to do as well. Just a case of reversing the XLR and soldering it onto the speaker. Great Mod, use it for recording all th time now! Thanks, great vid!
alot of people dont realize how important a resonating chamber\THE DRUM is in the yamaha version, its what helps you get more volume and a balanced drum-like sound.. and i believe the reason your getting a ping noise is because you have not shock mounted the speaker. i made one out of an old crate 15 watt 8" guitar speaker. i used a plastic bucket and shock mounted it using tied down cables. try getting a cheap first act drum from walmart for kids. they sound great
timothywaldvogel 1 year ago
@timothywaldvogel Very good point -- the pinging is coming from the tuning of the drum, not the mount though. i didn't want a secondary resonance from a drumshell, and if I did I'd want a big one like DW Drums' "Woofer" resonators. In either case, it'd be fun to play around with different shell sizes and constructions to see (or hear) their effect on the sound.
Chippy569 1 year ago
is it not just easier to duplicate the bass track in your DAW and EQ it to the low frequencies and remove the highs?
skatepark02 1 year ago
@skatepark02 Hey, yes and no. The particular mic I was using didn't pick up as low, so i'd have to use some pretty ugly EQ followed by a bunch of gain up. It could be done, but the subkick makes it much faster. (Assuming there's enough mic channels for it, of course!)
Chippy569 1 year ago
@Chippy569 Very true, suppose its a lot easier if you were playing live as well. nice idea, i might give it a try!
skatepark02 1 year ago
@kmjbmtpt yes you will!!!!
girotube 1 year ago
@girotube I hope you can hear the difference in the video.
Chippy569 1 year ago
@Chippy569
Yes I hear it young man! I hope you get what I'm trying to say!
I'm a recording engineer. I pay the bills doing this!
If you have the sub mic, have any other mic to capture the smack (the transient attack) and blend those.
Also all those extra low freq that the Large cone is picking up, may not be suitable for commertial components.. So its double work! those freq must be rolled off.. like below 50hz
Take care..
girotube 1 year ago
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aaronled 1 year ago
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aaronled 1 year ago
Good job!!
idontmindatall 1 year ago
@girotube It gives it alot more punch but using a good bass drum mic with the sub kick gives it the energy to hit you with force when listening back. also having a well dampened drum and tuned one helps too
kcdrummer13 1 year ago
@kcdrummer13 All its doing is adding sub freq that you have to roll off doring the mix to play back on commercial systems buddy!
A sub mic is used best to give bottom to a small kick drum. ALSO for concerts and plain just show off..
now go checkone of my videos "The Hulk" its a SM57 by it self as a kick mic - without and with processing..
cheers
girotube 1 year ago
Try pulling the subwoofer back about 3 inches. It will pick up more of the bass frequencies. Great sound though. Good luck!
sampagan 2 years ago
Oh, it cost me just £8 to make! HAaha. My mate gave me an old tom drum, the speaker I already had, mic cable I already had. Just had to by resistors, bungee cord, XLR chassis type socket and hose clip. A saving of around £200 :)
mellodge 2 years ago
because the speaker and cable was all free
Gart7 2 years ago
just built mine today, sounds amazing! I built mine inside a tom drum and used a chassis XLR jack on the shell, bridged a 160 ohm resistor across pins 2 and 3, and a 1k ohm inline on both + and - wires. Worked first time with no fiddling. I'm ecstatic. Can't wait to do some recording.
mellodge 2 years ago
Im in the same boat as you. . i wanna lay some trackkksss!
olneymaryland77 2 years ago
Sounds awesome!!! I'm building one. I have an broken old entertainment system subwoofer,( I nearly threw it out, glad I didn't) reckon I can rip out the speaker and use that. If I can get mine sounding like yours, with good EQ and compression the kick would sound massive :-)
mellodge 2 years ago
Your homemade mic sounds better, plus, it has no clipping to it.
Rockinnsk8inallday 2 years ago
I'll post some pictures when I get it back - It's currently at school, where i did it, and i have'nt got it back.
GeorgeBrooks09 2 years ago
I tried this with a 12" speaker, and it was epic!
It's a very simple thing to do as well. Just a case of reversing the XLR and soldering it onto the speaker. Great Mod, use it for recording all th time now! Thanks, great vid!
GeorgeBrooks09 2 years ago
can you post a vid of how you made it? or a link to how its done? that shits hot!!!
SpencerMA89 2 years ago