Some of the nicest form that I've seen on youtube. The rounding of the lumbar spine at the bottom, however, is a problem, and indicates that you don't quite have the mobility in the hip joint to go as low as you're going on those reps. Done properly, this exercise helps stabilize the lumbar spine (very important), but that rounding at the bottom is dangerous. Your options are: increase mobility in the hip joint, either by exercises, or with the help of a chiropractor; or don't go so low.
Something that I find helpful to keep proper form at the bottom: think about pulling yourself down, as though you were being pulled up by a pulley, and your feet are attached to the floor, and you're trying to use your legs to pull yourself back down.
But always make sure not to round your back. Otherwise, your form is great.
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so what is the advantage of these compared with normal squats with the bar on your shoulders? I would rather be doing 45 degree leg presses any day than squats, more efficient and better for your back, no compression, bad form etc....
It's been a year. Have you changed your outlook on exercises like these? I've vastly improved when i realized that exercise is supposed to be difficult and "multitasking" will make you stronger. Since then the only thing i do seated is on a bike or seated goodmornings. And there is no lying down, no benchpresses or crunches.
The "rounding" you're referring to results from a change in the tilt of the pelvis. You go from a strong anterior tilt to neutral, so this isn't technically rounding. In any case, for this change to happen, you have to relax somewhat in the hole, as you pull with the hip flexors in order to pull your butt down further. So, be mindful of both of those things to help eliminate this.
Also, you're keeping your hips flexed instead of, at the least, straightening them between reps. This sets it up so that your torso is inclined slightly further than it needs to be each rep. You also keep the back very flat -- almost neutral -- instead of setting the tight arch which is a hallmark of Olympic style weightlifting. This is happening because you're compensating with your shoulder flexibility.
i've seen squat RX much before this. he doesn't squat as deep as i do. i only round when the tighs touch the cavs. he doesn't go that deep. only weightlifters go that deep. if i went tigh under kneecap there is no back rounding.
also i don't feel any pain when doing any type of squat, pause squat, or flexibility work. Nor am i wearing any type of heels. these shoes are flat. i can compensate normally by using ankle flexibility. usually the problem is ankle (not hip) flexibility. the ability to make the knees go past the toes greatly is something you see often in the snatch.
Some of the nicest form that I've seen on youtube. The rounding of the lumbar spine at the bottom, however, is a problem, and indicates that you don't quite have the mobility in the hip joint to go as low as you're going on those reps. Done properly, this exercise helps stabilize the lumbar spine (very important), but that rounding at the bottom is dangerous. Your options are: increase mobility in the hip joint, either by exercises, or with the help of a chiropractor; or don't go so low.
platypusmethod 2 years ago
Something that I find helpful to keep proper form at the bottom: think about pulling yourself down, as though you were being pulled up by a pulley, and your feet are attached to the floor, and you're trying to use your legs to pull yourself back down.
But always make sure not to round your back. Otherwise, your form is great.
platypusmethod 2 years ago
one of the rare OHS vids ive seen where the weights are re-racked rather than tossed to the floor. thx.
tubeslicker 2 years ago 3
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so what is the advantage of these compared with normal squats with the bar on your shoulders? I would rather be doing 45 degree leg presses any day than squats, more efficient and better for your back, no compression, bad form etc....
NovaNeolith 3 years ago
Leg presses are worse for your body than squats. You lose core stability and it isnt natural.
abotwell 2 years ago 7
It's been a year. Have you changed your outlook on exercises like these? I've vastly improved when i realized that exercise is supposed to be difficult and "multitasking" will make you stronger. Since then the only thing i do seated is on a bike or seated goodmornings. And there is no lying down, no benchpresses or crunches.
Awesome OHS btw.
mdo0bm 2 years ago
It might be the shoes.
Bizarro23 4 years ago
The "rounding" you're referring to results from a change in the tilt of the pelvis. You go from a strong anterior tilt to neutral, so this isn't technically rounding. In any case, for this change to happen, you have to relax somewhat in the hole, as you pull with the hip flexors in order to pull your butt down further. So, be mindful of both of those things to help eliminate this.
chicanerous 4 years ago
Also, you're keeping your hips flexed instead of, at the least, straightening them between reps. This sets it up so that your torso is inclined slightly further than it needs to be each rep. You also keep the back very flat -- almost neutral -- instead of setting the tight arch which is a hallmark of Olympic style weightlifting. This is happening because you're compensating with your shoulder flexibility.
chicanerous 4 years ago
i've seen squat RX much before this. he doesn't squat as deep as i do. i only round when the tighs touch the cavs. he doesn't go that deep. only weightlifters go that deep. if i went tigh under kneecap there is no back rounding.
m1kekim 4 years ago
also i don't feel any pain when doing any type of squat, pause squat, or flexibility work. Nor am i wearing any type of heels. these shoes are flat. i can compensate normally by using ankle flexibility. usually the problem is ankle (not hip) flexibility. the ability to make the knees go past the toes greatly is something you see often in the snatch.
m1kekim 4 years ago
yes fuck squat RX
the "rounding" you mention is negligible, lumbar aren't even in flexion
some DoWins or Adidas weightlifting shoes would serve you very well for this by the way
brentlovesulol 4 years ago
The rounding is due to lack of hip flexibility. Check out the squat rx vids I mentioned before as they address this issue.
lennyogarc 4 years ago