The Dancing Men - Part 2 of 6 (Sherlock Holmes)

[CanadaCob]

I always like it when he uses the blackboard...

[GirlWomanDead]

Holmes is not unfeeling or cold. He's a logical person, but he has so much passion for what he does, and an ingrained belief in doing the right thing that he couldn't possibly be called emotionless. He doesn't outwardly display his feelings, but that doesn't mean he has none. It's just that all this rambling on about so-and-so's love life is not helpful towards solving the case.

[petertheallblack]

I think Holmes posseses the capability to love ,but no means to display it. Brett was and exellent actor ,especially as Holmes.

[maddyreid18]

As far as I've seen, Holmes truly admires only Erena Adler (probably spelled that wrong) in A Scandal In Bohemia, but what I really must know is if Holmes is even capable of actual love.

Admiration? Of course.

Respect? No doubt.

But love? We shall never know.

[HarryplusHermione]

@maddyreid18 Depends on what you mean with love. I don't think he's every loved someone romantically, but I do believe he loves Watson as a friend.

[AngelVencedor2008]

He's Old and she is ugly.. AGE DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.. Love The Episode though

[Detectivefiction]

I love the dresses Elsie wears, especially the one with the red bow at the neck.

[HAZIDEAD]

The husband must be 30 years older than her. What does she see in him? Beauty? Intelligence? Personality?

[hadassah179]

There was a stage production i KNOW I had seen him in and he seemed a bit older with thicker hair I can't pin down the year but remember seeing it as a movie on a list of HBO movies a few years back. There was also a blonde woman client that he ends up falling for in the end. If anyone knows the one I'm talking about anything would be appreciated.

[RingSaberWardrobe]

@hadassah179 Oh, that's the Frank Langella play! I've watched that here on YouTube -- it's a great story! In fact, if you go to my profile, I have the whole play on a playlist. =)

[ipodkrzy]

Ive never known a british actor that can do a good american accent

[ToxiqueRose]

@ipodkrzy Hugh Laurie

[itsjustjm]

@ToxiqueRose Ahh, that will teach me! You beat me to it! However, I will say that he isn't the only one, but he is the first that came to mind! :-)

[itsjustjm]

@ipodkrzy I respectfully disagree. I've known several British actors who do excellent American accents. Hugh Laurie (House) anyone?

[Esskandareahdaroo]

5:52 look how Watson looks at Holms's monogram, he want's to take it and read it but doesn't want Holmes to no that he hadn't yet.

[Imverycute2]

Am I the only one that thinks Cubitt's mustachioed groom is a bit creepy?

[wincipoet]

I dunno why, but I'm fascinated by the carriages ^^...esp the sound of horse heels hehe...

I uv Victorian!

[sitithesecond]

At that time, women themselves were opposed to their own emancipation! Susan B. Anthony campaigned for votes for women and many other women thought she was dreadful. Extraordinary attitude.

[Moniker180]

The comments on these Sherlock Holmes videos are among the most intelligent I've seen on YouTube.

[lollipopfop]

Uh..how could it be arbitrary? If it was arbitrary why send it. No one could read it.

[Moniker180]

@lollipopfop Well, a lunatic could have written them, intending that they be read, but they might only have meaning to said lunatic.

Why are you trolling Sherlock Holmes and trying to poke holes in it? Knock it off, it's irritating.

[lekonoleken]

Holmes meant the system used to construct the cypher

[tephygirl23]

Stop trying to scam people. We don't want your crap. We have youtube!

[Chakotaysmack]

darb-ie-shire? no, that's not how it is normally pronounced in England. but she is American, so she would pronounce it however she wanted.

[FlippinBooks]

Yes, I've noticed that Americans pronounce a lot of English names differently, like Derby-SHIRE and Notting-HAM. But they don't live in England, so of course they wouldn't know the right pronunciation. That's quite understandable.

I like the way Holmes says it: "Dahhhbysher". :)

[Chakotaysmack]

Yeah, me too. I noticed that. I just found out about Brett before Christmas. This is an incredible series.

[ImLiveingALie]

0:45 She says Derbyshire funnily. (Is that the way to properly say it?)

[scottdavis0801]

After watching more of these episodes, I have begun to enjoy the acting styles of both David and Edward.

[000266617]

I've not seen Holmes rude to women. A German big shot got on his nerves and a few rich egotistial men who acted like the world and people in it was their property.

[tephygirl23]

He thinks women are frail and weak minded. The sign of four is a good example. There is one by BBC series that just came out with Peter Cushing. The only one he ever respected was Mrs. Adler Norton

[000266617]

@tephygirl23 Thats a good reason why Holmes never married. The illogical nonsense of women would drive him nuts.

(I' Know I'll get in trouble for that comment)

[gredorial]

@000266617 I don't think you will; The victorian era wasn't exactly the best place to find strong-minded, independent women... (I AM female, by the way) If I remember well, being a feminist at the time meant advocating women's role in society (staying home) as as important as men's. hrm.

[000266617]

gredorial, near the end of this on You Tube:

"Mystery! Intro: The Copper Beeches" Vincent Price makes some interesting comments on Holmes view of women.

[lollipopfop]

@tephygirl23 But the women in the stories are weak minded and frail. Its not just Holmes opinion, its the way they are portrayed. I wouldn't scream and faint no matter what kind of note I got from whom.

[calliesaiyan]

@lollipopfop on the contrary, there are a ffew instances in which the women are portrayed as being 'admirably composed' and haing strength of character and cunning. Examples being Irene Adler and also the client in The Solitary Cyclist. Besides, if a note was exceptionally shocking or threatening, who knows what sort of reaction any of us might have?

[Raeyven76]

@lollipopfop You have to remember these stories were written in the Victorian era and this is how women were expected to behave. It's well over a century ago, women were viewed differently then. This was the norm back then. I agree with Moniker180, stop trolling. Poking holes is one thing but when that's all you do and have nothing positive or nice to say about these Sherlock Holmes episodes it makes me wonder why you're even bothering to watch them.

[ThePipsummers]

@Raeyven76 I completely agree with you. I know it's been a while since you left this comment but lollipopfop has been poking holes in everything! I just worked my way through the joan hickson miss marples and they did it there too. Probably doesn't actualy read and just waits for the movie to come out.

[laurabelle200]

in every age, societal norms and emotional outlets vary from age to age. we are able to yell, rant, cry, storm, breath and fart in public. (forgive the crudeness but it's true), can you try and imagine the strictures placed on women at that time??? Not to mention that it's a corset cutting off the air supply, what do YOU think would happen>>

[scottdavis0801]

when did this watson take over?

[swan240687]

David Burke was the "first" Watson, and Edward Hardwicke took over after "The Final Problem"

[iFoundLite]

"And when did the first cloud cover the sun of this great happiness."

I don't know where Holmes gets these sayings, but they're awesome. xD

[emmelinemae]

hahahahahaha "derby shire"

[lollipopfop]

Im sorry. Holmes hardly has the ability to be mean to people because he thinks they are arrogant or pretentious. Holmes is more arrogant and pretentious then any human on earth. Glass houses. I think maybe the great detective needs a mirror.

[auntdj111]

this is the first Holmes I have watched on here. Is he always so unappealing? I have been watching Poirot and although there are similarities, Poirot is much more likeable.

[DDEMEETRI]

he is often cold and emotionless; sometimes bitter and rude...it is his logical analytical mind and social eccentricity that appeals Holmes fans He was also one of the best actors ever in my opinion...keep watching, he will grow on you :)

[000266617]

Nope, Holmes isn't always "unappealing" He is in one of his moods and wants this guy to get to the point. He tells Watson who suggests that Holmes could be more sympathic, that it is more important that he crack the case than being a shoulder to cry on. But Holmes has had much feelings for his clients. He is not a mean person.

[Shangas]

Holmes isn't mean, he's just practical. He hates waffling and beating around the bush. He's a logician and a sleuth-hound. He likes action and hates stagnation. That's probably why he looks/sounds so detatched.

[ShawDAMAN]

I can assure you that although Holmes was quite curt here Brett's portrayal of Holmes in it's entirety is very likable.

[lollipopfop]

I totally agree. Its especially noticeable in how they treat law enforcement. Poirot always treats them as colleagues. He respects everyone. Poirot especially has sympathy for those who have lonely lives. I don't like how mean he is to people either. They don't deserve it.

[auntdj111]

I think this is true. I don't know how the books are written, I just had this to go by. Poirot has his arrogant moments, but usually his compassion is evident. I just read "Curtain": what a twist. Goodbye, by little Belgian:(. At least I have many more Poirot's to read. And I will try Sherlock, too.

[irishoorah]

and at 6:47- enter Charlie Chaplin

[irishoorah]

Sherlock Holmes seems to me, to be the first Dr. House...

[evchen3]

so he is, but a shift in emphasis is due -- Dr House is based on Sherlock Holmes (Holmes (Homes)-House, Wilson-Watson, the misanthropy, the drug addiction, the genius that thrives on puzzles, characters by the names of Moriarty and Irene Adler in House etc)

[lekonoleken]

i made the same connection, but i thought his whole team was Watson where as Wilson?

[octembuary]

"And when did the first cloud cover the sun..." Oh Holmes...you're such an ass lol

[000266617]

I am beginning to think this Holmes doesn't like wealthy people. He is kind to poor people and women, but sarcastic, rude, and impatient with wealthy businesmen. (See the banker in "Red-headed league, and the wealthy German in "Scandal" that Holmes doesn't like being around)

[mishkin13]

I don't think it's so much a matter of rich or poor with Holmes. Its just that these wealthy people tend to be pretentious and arrogant, and Holmes doesn't seem to like taking attitude. On top of that, Holmes has no regard at all for station, and judges people based on the content of their character.

[navy110]

he didn't sound as cold and harsh though, in the book.

[marianneootjers]

Jeremy had suggested from the beginning of making the series, that they should've re-written the character because he too thought that Holmes was too rude. Later, when Granada became involved he could make his suggestions to reality and so you'll find that in the later Sherlock Holmes series he is less rude, cold and distant then he is here.

[sideshowbro]

@000266617 that's because the banker and the german were idiots. Holmes dislikes idiots more than crimnals

[Natilra]

@000266617

I don't think that it's the amount they keep in their pocket book but their sheer stupidity to which Holmes objects. Even Watson struggles to remain polite to Mr Jabers Wilson, the red-headed pawnbroker. However, if you look at "The Beryl Coronet", there Holmes is perfectly cordial and sympathetic to the rich banker.

[MagicansForce]

@000266617 Well, the guy from the Red Headed League was something of an idiot; both he and Watson laughed at him. And the King of Bohemia was petty and foolish as well. Here, he's just irritated because the man's dancing around the subject with stories he doesn't consider important or interesting.

[000266617]

@MagicansForce He can be nasty and impatient with men, but when was Holmes ever rude or nasty with women?

If Holmes is supposed to have little feelings for women, why does he feel his hands all over the woman's hair in "The Copper Beeches" when it isn't necessary to the case?

If he does have little feelings, was it because his mother beat him or something? (But I see him with tender feelings towards women but he hides it because it would screw up his thinking ability, cloud his judgement )

[MagicansForce]

@000266617 Hmm... Impatient, maybe. But the author made a point of saying that he was very polite and kind with women. He just doesn't understand them; he has nothing against them, per se, it's just that, as a man, their reasons for doing things occasionally don't make much sense to him. From my understanding, he considers attempting to forge a lasting relationship with a woman akin to attempting to build on quicksand. He simply doesn't understand their motives.

[000266617]

@MagicansForce I expect remarks from millions of men saying they don't understand women and what they do don't make any sense. t o them either. "men are from mars, women from venus?"

[MagicansForce]

@000266617 Yes, but that isn't combined with a need to understand, and a distaste for any strong emotion like romantic love. I'm simply stating what Holmes himself stated. And I quote, "How can you build on such quicksand? Their most trivial actions may mean volumes. He doesn't understand them, he doesn't even trust them; the only interest comes from the cases they bring. But he's ultimately a "chivalrous opponent."

[dreasim]

@000266617 these stories were sometimes written by Doyle while sitting at parties of affluent people.

[crockyoshighty]

@000266617 Sherlock Holmes seems a character mixture of the Scarlet Pimpernel, Alan Turing, Robin Hood and Keith Richards. I only added Keith Richards because Holmes likes to play musical instruments and take drugs as well. [Smile.] :o)o:

[000266617]

Is the actress American, or is her American accent very good?

[claud4]

she's american , from North Carolina .

she was married to Steven Soderbergh (director of Traffic , Ocean's 11 and many more) and one of her credits include Jessica Rabbit's Performance Model in Who Framed Rodger Rabbit.

[RFTC69]

walkers a smug cunt

[saruman84]

hahahaha

[Komaborn]

Ha ha- he is, isn't he?

[bitherwack]

Hunh?

I've never heard of such a word used on a man before.

Quite, quite odd 'Rftc'.

[warwolf1993]

thanx for uploading