This brought back so many memories! I used to get the steam train to school every day from Granton Road Station to Newhaven station in Edinburgh. It cost 1p in old money!
The signal is triggered by the train passing over the track circuit, which must be further up the hill towards the bridge, beyond the crossover track. I presume this is so that if an engineering train (for example) is blocking one track the signal can still be cleared to green for the other (I know they do operate single-line workings sometimes for engineering purposes).
@acps110 the signal only goes red once the train passes the sensor after the signal. this then tell the next signal to go from double amber to green, unless there is something blocking its path etc etc etc
I'm not a rail enthusiast as such........however......how can anyone not love seeing some of these monsters of the rails chugging along. Its great to see such old pieces of technology being kept running. A steam train is far more exciting to watch than some diesel, though they have their place too.
So leave trainspotters/rail enthusiasts or whatever you want to call them alone. Least they have an interest...some people are so boring they have no hobbies at all!!! Thanks for the vid Gordanovich.
i know hy american trains have dark steam and our trains dont, basically european trains use less coal then american trains, that is what effects the coulour, the amount of coal
And the third place trophy for having a go at rail enthusiasts on one of my videos goes to... you.
We all have lives, thanks very much.
I presume the trains you work on are multiple units - Turdostars, Splinters, etc? If so, then i'm afraid I don't find them very exciting. I'll stick to kettles and big diesels. So no, i'm not jealous.
@oscar3112fc No I'm not at all jealous because I too work on trains! It's no wonder the modern transport system is going downhill if we have people like you working for us!!
@oscar3112fc Sitting on your arse all day reading the Sun and looking for something interesting from your nose. Welcome to todays modern railway system in the UK. Some years ago, people had pride in their job. Obviously, that seems to have escaped you, WANKER
how come European Steam engines never seem to have dark smoke? it is always white as a cloud...I have nothing wrong with this but i have never seen a european stem engine with dark smoke...I like seeing white exhaust! but it seems the only time you see white exhaust is on 3' narrow guage in the US
It's a good point, now that you mention it. Unfortunately, I have no idea what dictates the colour of the smoke, my attempts to find out have come up blank so far.
The Temperature of the fire or if the firemen has just put on a fresh load of coal dictates the color of the smoke. I just never have seen european steamers with black smoke
Just posted a video response to your question, nicholasbreeden. This is another tunnel shot but as 6233 ' Duchess of Sutherland' emerges from it, her smoke is a dark grey. As you may hear, the railway engineers weren't too impressed either.
@Gordanovich I'm pretty sure it's the mixture of fuel (and type of fuel, too) that determines this. Coal produces a dark color (if properly stoked), wood has a bit of a lighter color, while gas fuels such as propane and butane would only produce a white steam from the boiler.
@Gordanovich Good firemanship means the burn is clean. The black smoke is only displayed for railfans (or trainspotters). In the days of steam the goal was to not have any black smoke, meaning an efficient and complete burn. Today, railfans like black smoke, so you see it, but when mainline steam was the norm, black smoke was frowned upon as it indicated inefficient burn of fuel.
@nicholasbreeden It's because US mainline locos had automatical stokers while nearly all European steamers were handfired. A stoker delivers huge amounts of coal but is not very precise and lots of coal gets grinded, so a good load just goes through the chimney. An able fireman can maintain a firebed without letting it smoke, especially when he has good steam coal to shovel into the engine. So if You see a European loco again You easily will recognize if it's well fired or not!
@quert2 you would be surprised at how many were hand fired. Most of the engines that did have the stokers still got hand fired so that no spots went out. But 99% of the engines that are still running are all hand fired, and they still burn rich....mostly because of inexperienced firemen, but I suppose European engines, with their designs, burned all of the coal thrown in.
@nicholasbreeden That's interesting to hear, I thougt the most of the preserved US-engines were mechanically fired. Anyway, I wouldn't blame the European or US boiler design for smoking as long as there's no constructive default within a certain engine (like type 39 of the German Railways with bad air flow to the firebox). I think it's really up to the firemen and possibly there might be a slight difference in their philosophy... but therefore I need to ask someone from a railway museum.
"It's because US mainline locos had automatical stokers while nearly all European steamers were handfired. A stoker delivers huge amounts of coal but is not very precise and lots of coal gets grinded, so a good load just goes through the chimney. An able fireman can maintain a firebed without letting it smoke, especially when he has good steam coal to shovel into the engine. So if You see a European loco again You easily will recognize if it's well fired or not!"
@nicholasbreeden It's all to do with the coal. Depending on where it was dug and the chemical make up of the earth. Thats according to a friend of mine who is a Geologist and steam railway nut !!!!!!!
Impressive video! Don't know if it helps, but I use the DivX codec (within Pinnacle Studio) to make files for YouTube. They seem to upload quite well.
Well the uploader seems to have calmed down now (perhaps my moaning had an effect), at the time of upload it was very unreliable. But if it goes wonky again, it's certainly something for me to consider.
Great video! I really love trains, I think this is the only non-New Zealand train I've seen.
TNZvideos 5 months ago
Why am I watching a video of a train.
Addicted2gaming 1 year ago
@Addicted2gaming Because you clicked on it?
Gordanovich 1 year ago 24
Some day I hope to take some people I care alot about on a nice steam train. Awesome majestic way to travel.
squishy62 1 year ago
LISTEN TO IT ROAR!!!
RailwayFanatic92220 1 year ago
This brought back so many memories! I used to get the steam train to school every day from Granton Road Station to Newhaven station in Edinburgh. It cost 1p in old money!
aliwhitwell 1 year ago
The smoke pouring out could make a creepy ghost story and a very good movie! 5 stars from me!!
himfan2215 1 year ago
How would you breath in that? Lmao,
videoman223 1 year ago
Why does the signal at the end of the platform take so long to drop to red? Shouldn't it go red as soon as the engine passes?
Lovely video. That engine was working hard!
acps110 2 years ago
The signal is triggered by the train passing over the track circuit, which must be further up the hill towards the bridge, beyond the crossover track. I presume this is so that if an engineering train (for example) is blocking one track the signal can still be cleared to green for the other (I know they do operate single-line workings sometimes for engineering purposes).
Gordanovich 2 years ago
@acps110 the signal only goes red once the train passes the sensor after the signal. this then tell the next signal to go from double amber to green, unless there is something blocking its path etc etc etc
WSnook37025 1 year ago
I'm not a rail enthusiast as such........however......how can anyone not love seeing some of these monsters of the rails chugging along. Its great to see such old pieces of technology being kept running. A steam train is far more exciting to watch than some diesel, though they have their place too.
So leave trainspotters/rail enthusiasts or whatever you want to call them alone. Least they have an interest...some people are so boring they have no hobbies at all!!! Thanks for the vid Gordanovich.
deepblue69uk 2 years ago 17
i know hy american trains have dark steam and our trains dont, basically european trains use less coal then american trains, that is what effects the coulour, the amount of coal
branchlinedisaster 2 years ago
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haha i work on the trains, are u all jealous????? and yes i stop at north queensferry from time to time, god u people need to get a life
oscar3112fc 2 years ago
"god u people need to get a life"
And the third place trophy for having a go at rail enthusiasts on one of my videos goes to... you.
We all have lives, thanks very much.
I presume the trains you work on are multiple units - Turdostars, Splinters, etc? If so, then i'm afraid I don't find them very exciting. I'll stick to kettles and big diesels. So no, i'm not jealous.
Gordanovich 2 years ago 9
@oscar3112fc No I'm not at all jealous because I too work on trains! It's no wonder the modern transport system is going downhill if we have people like you working for us!!
RailwayFanatic92220 1 year ago
@oscar3112fc Sitting on your arse all day reading the Sun and looking for something interesting from your nose. Welcome to todays modern railway system in the UK. Some years ago, people had pride in their job. Obviously, that seems to have escaped you, WANKER
MrCagivaman 1 year ago 2
how come European Steam engines never seem to have dark smoke? it is always white as a cloud...I have nothing wrong with this but i have never seen a european stem engine with dark smoke...I like seeing white exhaust! but it seems the only time you see white exhaust is on 3' narrow guage in the US
nicholasbreeden 2 years ago
It's a good point, now that you mention it. Unfortunately, I have no idea what dictates the colour of the smoke, my attempts to find out have come up blank so far.
Gordanovich 2 years ago
The Temperature of the fire or if the firemen has just put on a fresh load of coal dictates the color of the smoke. I just never have seen european steamers with black smoke
nicholasbreeden 2 years ago
Just posted a video response to your question, nicholasbreeden. This is another tunnel shot but as 6233 ' Duchess of Sutherland' emerges from it, her smoke is a dark grey. As you may hear, the railway engineers weren't too impressed either.
LMSStanier 2 years ago
That is more than likely a smoke less coal and all that can be seen there is steam? All though in saying that.... dont take my word for it :D
amncert 2 years ago
@Gordanovich I'm pretty sure it's the mixture of fuel (and type of fuel, too) that determines this. Coal produces a dark color (if properly stoked), wood has a bit of a lighter color, while gas fuels such as propane and butane would only produce a white steam from the boiler.
FordExplorerFanatic 1 year ago
@FordExplorerFanatic
ah, as someone whos grown up around fires, properly stoked coal and properly maintained fires do the opposite, they DoNt smoke as much
animesis 1 year ago
@Gordanovich Good firemanship means the burn is clean. The black smoke is only displayed for railfans (or trainspotters). In the days of steam the goal was to not have any black smoke, meaning an efficient and complete burn. Today, railfans like black smoke, so you see it, but when mainline steam was the norm, black smoke was frowned upon as it indicated inefficient burn of fuel.
kjrehberg 1 year ago
@nicholasbreeden It's because US mainline locos had automatical stokers while nearly all European steamers were handfired. A stoker delivers huge amounts of coal but is not very precise and lots of coal gets grinded, so a good load just goes through the chimney. An able fireman can maintain a firebed without letting it smoke, especially when he has good steam coal to shovel into the engine. So if You see a European loco again You easily will recognize if it's well fired or not!
quert2 1 year ago
@quert2 you would be surprised at how many were hand fired. Most of the engines that did have the stokers still got hand fired so that no spots went out. But 99% of the engines that are still running are all hand fired, and they still burn rich....mostly because of inexperienced firemen, but I suppose European engines, with their designs, burned all of the coal thrown in.
nicholasbreeden 1 year ago
@nicholasbreeden That's interesting to hear, I thougt the most of the preserved US-engines were mechanically fired. Anyway, I wouldn't blame the European or US boiler design for smoking as long as there's no constructive default within a certain engine (like type 39 of the German Railways with bad air flow to the firebox). I think it's really up to the firemen and possibly there might be a slight difference in their philosophy... but therefore I need to ask someone from a railway museum.
quert2 1 year ago
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animesis 1 year ago
apologies, just saw this
"It's because US mainline locos had automatical stokers while nearly all European steamers were handfired. A stoker delivers huge amounts of coal but is not very precise and lots of coal gets grinded, so a good load just goes through the chimney. An able fireman can maintain a firebed without letting it smoke, especially when he has good steam coal to shovel into the engine. So if You see a European loco again You easily will recognize if it's well fired or not!"
animesis 1 year ago
@nicholasbreeden It's all to do with the coal. Depending on where it was dug and the chemical make up of the earth. Thats according to a friend of mine who is a Geologist and steam railway nut !!!!!!!
MrCagivaman 1 year ago
The beast sound on any video on youtube,no make that the interent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
realsteam123 2 years ago
ok
good video anywhay
43055875 3 years ago
is that tunnel big
43055875 3 years ago
It's about one-third of a mile long. Not massive, but it's uphill heading south (as the train was going), so it struggles a bit.
Gordanovich 3 years ago
Magnificent video! Definetly one of the best steam-videos I've seen on Youtube!
quert2 3 years ago
Impressive video! Don't know if it helps, but I use the DivX codec (within Pinnacle Studio) to make files for YouTube. They seem to upload quite well.
Linesider1 3 years ago
Well the uploader seems to have calmed down now (perhaps my moaning had an effect), at the time of upload it was very unreliable. But if it goes wonky again, it's certainly something for me to consider.
Gordanovich 3 years ago
Does that thing have 3-cylinders?
JoMiFu 3 years ago
Yes.
Gordanovich 3 years ago
what a great video! I love it when steam trains come out of tunnels you get 5 stars
Awesomegames 3 years ago
Superb film and awesome sound!!!!!
tasem30 3 years ago