@85milesb when you set up, the key is to bump your hips a few inches towards the target, thereby slightly tilting your spine, in it's entirety, away from the target. Then turn your shoulders around your spine thats on that angle, with your head staying in the same general area. watch tigers swing again and notice the tilt at address then how he turns around it, ending up "centered", but not too left.
@thegolfacademyla1 the reality of S&T is a centered pivot. The literal interpretaion of the literature (book / dvd) lends to a REVERSE pivot. The S&T concepts are 'feels' that are great for players who move off the ball or get too wide. But, Bennett and Plummer sold S&T to the masses as the 'panacea' of stellar ball striking. Most recreational players already hang on their left side and never get behind the ball. Having them believe that's what they SHOULD be doing is trouble, at best.
@earthshine2k I disagree-all the players I teach shift far too much weight to the right. The reverse pivot comes because they simply cant get the weight to the left foot. Although I'd never teach S&T weight shift (or lack of), it should feel like you are making a S&T weight shift. I believe correct weight shift is the key to a good swing.
Look at any good ball striker, the head always dips in the back swing and much more in the downswing.... Its how they generate power, dipping is good and a hard move to do, look at any great ball strikers swing in slow mo and you'll see the drop
In a way s&t is incorporated in everyone's swing, but i meant the full s&t where your left sided, the best way to swing the club is to be centred my opinion no one needs to agree :)
@all of you- I think you all have to realize that Tiger Woods could take any swing coach, learn what they want him to do, and make it work for him. The athletic potential Tiger Woods possess is unlike any other tour player. The best ball strikers in the world have always dipped their head in the golf swing, Hogan being the best example and one of the core influences on Tigers fundamentals. Tiger will be back, it's just going to take him longer this time reasons that only he could understand.
Back with the big dip / squat, how can one achieve consistency with that amount of vertical movement. These swing gurus are just hilarious. With his athletics, he just need good simple basics.
@wkendhacker true but there is a such thing as too big in golf. its almost starting to restrict the swing. Dont get me wrong im a huge tiger fan. i just dont like what he's going with foley.
I keep coming back to this vid of Tiger to monitor my own progress as my pivot is currently either centered, or reversed.
I was wondering if anyone could possibly give me a few tips to improve my position at the top, really trying to fight my reverse pivot!
85milesb 1 month ago
@85milesb when you set up, the key is to bump your hips a few inches towards the target, thereby slightly tilting your spine, in it's entirety, away from the target. Then turn your shoulders around your spine thats on that angle, with your head staying in the same general area. watch tigers swing again and notice the tilt at address then how he turns around it, ending up "centered", but not too left.
MrTofur99 1 month ago 2
@MrTofur99 Thanks, great explanation!
85milesb 3 weeks ago
As usual some of the comments about Stack and Tilt are wrong. It is and always has been a centered pivot.
thegolfacademyla1 2 months ago
@thegolfacademyla1 the reality of S&T is a centered pivot. The literal interpretaion of the literature (book / dvd) lends to a REVERSE pivot. The S&T concepts are 'feels' that are great for players who move off the ball or get too wide. But, Bennett and Plummer sold S&T to the masses as the 'panacea' of stellar ball striking. Most recreational players already hang on their left side and never get behind the ball. Having them believe that's what they SHOULD be doing is trouble, at best.
earthshine2k 1 month ago
@earthshine2k I disagree-all the players I teach shift far too much weight to the right. The reverse pivot comes because they simply cant get the weight to the left foot. Although I'd never teach S&T weight shift (or lack of), it should feel like you are making a S&T weight shift. I believe correct weight shift is the key to a good swing.
Tourswing 3 weeks ago
Look at any good ball striker, the head always dips in the back swing and much more in the downswing.... Its how they generate power, dipping is good and a hard move to do, look at any great ball strikers swing in slow mo and you'll see the drop
johnhayesiv 3 months ago
After all it was 240 straight.It is the result which matters,right?
CBWJr 4 months ago
He could probably use a tiny more lateral shift towards the target before he starts to do his massive unwind.
cjcollas 4 months ago
In a way s&t is incorporated in everyone's swing, but i meant the full s&t where your left sided, the best way to swing the club is to be centred my opinion no one needs to agree :)
Fraserr1992 4 months ago
Definately looking better. Certinely more centred rather than s&t, he will be very good soon
Fraserr1992 4 months ago
@Fraserr1992 S&T is centered... one of the most emphasized pieces. Just FYI.
CBrianrun 4 months ago
don't like it.
it looks too artificial.
dduckkim 4 months ago
Butter
gomezzz21 4 months ago
@all of you- I think you all have to realize that Tiger Woods could take any swing coach, learn what they want him to do, and make it work for him. The athletic potential Tiger Woods possess is unlike any other tour player. The best ball strikers in the world have always dipped their head in the golf swing, Hogan being the best example and one of the core influences on Tigers fundamentals. Tiger will be back, it's just going to take him longer this time reasons that only he could understand.
theupandaround 4 months ago 5
@theupandaround finally someone who actually knows what they are talking about :)
philebbesen 1 month ago
Back with the big dip / squat, how can one achieve consistency with that amount of vertical movement. These swing gurus are just hilarious. With his athletics, he just need good simple basics.
citiusaltiusfortiuz 4 months ago
he's almost chicken-winging the follow through by trying to move the club so far left through the ball..
lilmikeii24 4 months ago
@lilmikeii24
freeze it at 0:08, that's about as extended as you could have on the left side.
the guy's triceps are ripped tho, jeez.
wkendhacker 4 months ago
@wkendhacker true but there is a such thing as too big in golf. its almost starting to restrict the swing. Dont get me wrong im a huge tiger fan. i just dont like what he's going with foley.
lilmikeii24 4 months ago