Vernon Stammers through Interview on Hannity and Colmes

[1stLTroastabotch]

fuck fox. fuck all press

[FuckUtube2008]

that add was hilarious.

[jays2474]

Colmes is a classic case of asshole.Allen ask's 100 questions and does'nt let Him answer one of them.Then he claims he is dodging the questions LOL.Colmes is an ass but I do find him very funny at times

[jackster0245]

weird, it says they have the actual version of that ad on youtube, but I cant find one?

[dasenuff]

what did you watch just now?

[GentlemanSkeleton]

wow what a fucking horrible moron

[BryanNC08]

I campaigned for that man =). Your comment has offended me. You don't know anything about my asshole congressman Brad Miller. Vernon Robinson would have been a much better congressman.

[GentlemanSkeleton]

wow what a fucking horrible moron

[SpaceJamEnthusiast]

wow, fox news just owned a republican, holy fuck

[Meteora2222]

Man, Robinson's world got rocked.

Thank God he didn't get the vote.

We had to make a political satire for Civics Class, we decided to do ours or Mr. Robinson.

Check it out, if you would like.

[aliakbar01]

This guy is no public servant

[spartydrew5]

Fixed news apparently doesn't believe in campaigning.....

[bigjaytexas]

Fox news lies,soliders die.

[thekabn]

This FOX clip is so wild. All you white folks are crazy. Debating this type of stuff on national T.V. and then turn around and question the morality of rappers. I'm convensed now that all you white bastards (democrates and republicans) are crazy. I thought republicans couldn't get any lower than holding onto the dress Bill Clinton skeet-skeet-skeeeeted in, but I was wrong big time.

[jinkasima]

learn how to spell dumb shit.

[DatBanga]

damn... he got fucked!

[icescape333]

Everybody: On youtube, go to Jesse Ventura and watch the one 9 minute clip entitled- "tellin it like it is". Thanks.

[smashbrosking6]

fucking owned

"who ever they are"

[jinkasima]

total ownage.

[GHFGJFJHJHGJ]

This not getting out there is good.

But it got on YOutube!

I hate that guy

This will give Reps problems

[record06]

This country needs a right-wing revolution!!!!!!!!!!

[drzghettoprince]

Vernon Robinson=IDIOT, can't even answer a proper question on top of that he's black, what about all the illegal africans or anyone from the eastern contries lol, he only speaks about mexicans poor moron, someone buy him a brain pls

[bmack78]

who are these two dicks

[Fruth37]

This boob was soundly defeated by Rep.Miller. He was the laughing stock of this district. He may be elected dog catcher in future or maybe he can shine my shoes.

[Mile2020]

Liberals believe that outlawing or putting over the top laws against guns will stop gun violence, yet, think legalizing drugs will stop drug abuse.

LOL at Liberals.

[kperry1969]

republicans.

lol

[GHFGJFJHJHGJ]

There are way more shit that the Democrats want to do.

[Trancemaster2052]

Vernon Robinson is a moron.

[Frightwolf]

Wow... Colmes actually was hard-hitting.  I'm impressed. Go Colmes!

[SalliesMan15]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is LAUGHABLE!! I love how Sean Hannity at the end just doesnt even bother to say anything... he just goes right to commercial... Alan Colmes bitch-slapped that homophobic piece of shit!

[gorstman]

Im wondering if we are more secure since 911 and billions spent somewhere for homeland security is it possible for a baseball player to fly into a ny building? dont know why that idea hasnt struck with all the terrorists hiding in our country.. perhaps because its a republican fear laden myth.. From such beginnings of governments, what could be expected, but a continual system of war and extortion?

Thomas Paine

[HugeHeelsFan]

Ha Ha Vernon got smoked---Hey Vern time to hit the treadmill.

[carpedc22]

Ha ha--Bye bye Vernon!

How does it feel to lose in EVERY SINGLE COUNTY in your district?

So sorry your hateful campaign based on bigotry and racism didn't work out for you :(

[usarmycaptainamerica]

carp-- what bigotry did this man have?

[gorstman]

hahahahh robinson you fuck you lost by a landslide.. typical republican hoeshit stopped by democracy... God bless dissent

[usarmycaptainamerica]

Gort-- repulican hoesh#t?. Man I gotta hand it to you, you are a 44 year old man who is a democrat?

Gort-- Liberals ran on an agenda of conservatisim. The only lib I know that ran a campaign of liberalisim was th eguy who got the democratic endorsement against Joe Lieberman, and he was beaten like a redheaded stepchild.

[usarmycaptainamerica]

Gort-- Republicans ( aprty) was beaten for reasons too numerous to go into here, and I dont blame liberals for it I blame our leadership.

The conservative ideology triumphed in many ways, 8 out of 9 states passed legislation to stop gay marriage. Also many states stopped emminent domain law where the govt could take away a citizens property.

I will take comfort in the battles won by us, and harden my resolve to win in two years.

[gorstman]

Its Gorst..what exactly are conservatives conserveing? gay marriage ?? Foley is weeping.. measures for strict abortion laws ? stem cell research? passed..Only republicans or even worse libertarians make idiotic blanket statements pigeon holing liberals and dems.. so here back at you. if republicans have taken bribes ,engaged in homosexual pedophilia then being a republican you must engage in these activities too..

[gorstman]

The emminent domain law was brought to you by the same supreme court that decided to stop vote counting and allowed bush the votes...curious....Sit back and relax.. enjoy your government..the people have spoken...An army of principles can penetrate where an army of soldiers cannot.

Thomas Paine

[usarmycaptainamerica]

gorst- You party has no principles, as far as stem cell research goes whole conteversy with mike j fox had nothing to do with stem cell research it had everything to do with cloning.

fetal stem cell research has offered nothing. adult stem research has afforded 72 different positive results in treating ailments of all kinds.

[gorstman]

all stem cells in principal do the same thing.. fetal stem cells freak out the religious right..anti abortionists.. many of which come from fertility clinics where many embryos are discarded.. what does that have to do with democratic morals? a referendum is voted regardless of party... lame

[usarmycaptainamerica]

gorst- You mentioned homsexuality let me take a moment to contrast mark foley he engaged in unsavory emails with a paige. When it came to light he was gone the next day.

Dems- jerry stubbs- had gay sex with a 17 year old paige, he was given a standing ovation on the floor of the house, reelected to office, and put in leadership positions by the dems.

Your party has no morals, no integrity bud.

[gorstman]

the foley escapade went on for 5 years.. 5 years to take advantage of children . hastert new and did nothing.. gone the next day is your dream.. male Paige =homosexual lets not forget homeland security secretary doyle being busted for cyber sex with a minor .. gerry stubbs 1973 fuck him too..yet he was elected 5 more times..no hypocrisy from me..The point being immorality stands regardless of party affiliations saying all dems are immoral thats hypocritical and ignorant..ace

[Frightwolf]

People like you are the reason why things can't be resolved in this country. People like you turn things into "My party vs. your party" rather than "Let's find a solution to the problem." FYI, you have your facts incorrect -- Dems simply placed more conservative candidates in southern states, while the more liberal ones remained in Democratic strongholds.

[usarmycaptainamerica]

Frigh-- Liberals cant run on liberal ideas, when they do they loose. I dont look at things as party vs party, I look at things as right and wrong.

Libs are bad for this country. Nancy pelosi wanted as 2nd in command a man who was flirting with a $50k bribe, and now Alci hastings who was an impeached federal judge for taking 150k bribe? This is the party that represents you?

[Frightwolf]

"Libs are bad for this country." LOL, whatever you say. It's called a political pendelum. Did you know Abraham Lincoln and Eisenhower, two of our best presidents, were more liberal republicans? And if you want to talk about a party that represents, your party ran on crookedness this year. It took Dems 40 years before corruption caught up to them in 1994 and they lost the majority. It took the Republicans 12. You're basically selectively reading news.

[usarmycaptainamerica]

Fright-- Not hardly, when that florida republican was found to have unsavory conversations with congressional paiges he was kicked out, contrast that to the gay congressman who HAD SEX with a 17 yr old paige and didnt apologize for it, in fact your fellow libs gave him standing ovations and put him on as th ehead of several panels..

[Frightwolf]

Since when was Foley the only thing to break out? The Republicans were run on corruption and right-wing nuts. There's a reason that someone as conservative as Rick Santorum was ousted in a landslide (same with Katherine Harris). There are some good, intelligent Republicans, as are with Democrats, but the majority of corruption has taken place with Republicans, probably because they've been high on power for 12 years.

[Frightwolf]

I have to ask, though.  When you say that no Democrat can win off a liberal agenda, I assume you're excluding New England, where things are VERY liberal. I'm also assuming you're excluding Bill Nelson, who was lambasted by Harris's team for being too far to the left. He destroyed Harris.

[Frightwolf]

Just face facts -- the blue states got bluer, and the red states were infiltrated with it. The Dems have found a way to oust right-wingers by placing moderates in the south. With that said, why don't you try debating about issues, rather than turning this into another lib v. con, Rep v. Dem debate that you seem to like dragging people down to? "Fellow libs?" I speak for myself. Why don't you try doing that? Or should I group you with out-of-touch people like our president? Would that be fair?

[usarmycaptainamerica]

Frigh-- I certainly dont agree with your take on things, we can debate any topic you like.

Libs won by a narrow margin because they campaigned on concervatisim, and repulicans had gotten away from the concervative platform.

That is the one really good thing that I took away from this loss, is that republicns are going to go back to the platform, and the rinos of the party are either going to be heading to you or at least out of our party.

[Frightwolf]

I'm all for Rudy Giuliani to come to our party =P. That man is the epitome of leadership. Liberals did not campaign on conservatism -- reforming Iraq and their stances on healthcare and such is not a conservative stance. Libs are not conservative to begin with. Conservatism is good as a small balance economically (limit wasteful spending, something Clinton pushed). Socially, conservatism prohibits the free-way. For example, Mass is doing great; it's not in shambles from gay marriage.

[Frightwolf]

The point I'm making is that you're making this a partisan argument. You've used "party that represents you" "fellow libs" etc. when I'm just arguing my stance on things. And that's the problem -- EVERYTHING is political. Hell, the movie Cars was called a red-state movie; I'm a blue-state guy and loved it plenty. We need to get away from labels like that and just discuss issues. We'll agree with one party more, sure, but we don't need to bring parties into an argument.

[usarmycaptainamerica]

The freeway? please elaborate. Mass is in chaos with gay marriage. The libs there seek to give 2 men all the same benefits, recognition legally of a man and a woman, by doing that they destroy the institution of mariage. In NY they are pushing for a law that will allow you to redefine your sex, whether you get a sex change or not, it gets more and more bizarre with liberals.

[Frightwolf]

"by doing that they destroy the institution of mariage." Your opinion. Tell me how that destroys the institution with logic. I don't see anythign wrong with it. Mass is doing fine as a state, ESPECIALLY because of their giving gays the same benefits and not BEING PREJUDICE AGAINST THEM. Now THAT is wrong. Mass isn't in shambles by any length or stretch of the imagination. Thank God they're so liberal.

[SalliesMan15]

How is Massachusetts is "chaos" with gay marriage?? I would LOVE to hear your proof of this

[usarmycaptainamerica]

Fri-- You mention labels, its your actions that define you, and the democrats are liberal, socialists. They tend not to like the word liberal in has negative connotation now and days, I am a conservative, I have no shame in saying that, in fact I am proud of it. Democrats cant stand on their true agenda.

[Frightwolf]

No, there's more to somebody than their party. You have liberal reps and conservative dems in the mix. Rudy Guiliani is pro same sex civil unions, pro-choice, pro gun control, and pro embryonic stem cell research, AKA social liberal, for example. Parties just give two generalized viewpoints. And, sorry to contradict you again, but I'm a proud liberal. I don't believe in limiting the free way by denying rights to gays, unlike conservatives that don't understand how prejudice they really are.

[usarmycaptainamerica]

Frigh-- I almost fell out of my chair when you said Clinton pushed to limit wasteful spending, then I checked your age. You were watching sessamee street when he took office.

My friend Clinton was ALL ABOUT wasteful spending. He signed into law with a liberal congress the highest tax increase in "the history of this nation" he told the American people to consider it an investment in America.

[Frightwolf]

WRONG. He was for limiting wasteful spending by making a balanced budget. Age has nothing to do with knowledge, which is something you should acquire about Clinton, Mr. Old and Wise. He pushed and pushed for a balanced budget, hence why we had surpluses, not deficits (ex: cutting down on welfare). Bush, however, is all about wasteful spending, i.e. Iraq and the billions we waste on a war that we shouldn't have been in. Clinton wasn't. Indisputable fact of history. Learn it.

[Frightwolf]

By the by, a tax increase stimulates revenue, not expenditures. That's not wasteful spending; how you came to that conclusion is beyond me. The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 pushed for a balanced budget and gave a tax hike on the households with the HIGHEST income, while I believe also cutting taxes for lower-class families and smaller businesses. And what do you know, with that act came a balanced budget in years.

[usarmycaptainamerica]

Fright-- You were what 7 years old and watching barney on tv when the republicans under Newt Gingrich took office. I was there watching everything unfold as an adult, and you dead wrong.

Newt Gingrich and the contract with America called for a balanced budget, which Clinton fought long and hard against. He lost against Gingrich and signed the bill put forth by Gingrich.

[Frightwolf]

Funny, I know people older than you (35 is nothing to gloat about) that are baffled by your statements. Age doesn't give you wisdom -- experience and brain usage does. Your being older at that point doesn't mean you know everything. The Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 called for a balanced budget and heightened taxes for the rich while cutting for the poor. And you're dead wrong on wasteful spending -- taxes AREN'T SPENDING FROM THE GOVERNMENT. That's basic knowledge to a tee.

[usarmycaptainamerica]

I dont really care for Lincoln, he was a hypocrite on slavery, and eisenhower gave Genn Mccarthur a hard time in letting him deal with North Korea.

I am Reagan conservative, you know the type, wears leather, eats red meat and in general is mean spirited towards communists,fascists,muslim nutcases, believes in peace through strength, etc...

[Frightwolf]

Lincoln was able to maintain the union through a harsh civil war period. Eisenhower was more liberal (thankfully) than most Republicans today, and he did help create the interstate system. Reagan doesn't touch these two presidents. Nor will he ever touch FDR, a Democrat.

[usarmycaptainamerica]

Fright-- You are and I will put this nicely have a very twisted view on history and facts, whatever teacher did this to you is a bastard.

Reagan brought down the Berlin wall, and crushed the red menace better known as the soviet union. He pushed for the creation a missle defense program 26 years ago that now we are very much in need of. He was a visionary, he will be known as one of the greatest presidents ever to hold office.

[Frightwolf]

Wrong. Right-winged conservatives say Reagan brought down the wall. He may have called for it, but he didn't bring it down. When Congress wanted to limit his spending for military uses he wanted, he started dealing with Iran. I don't have a twisted view of history -- I just know history. Your neoconservatism blinds you from understanding Eisenhower and FDR's legacy, or from even knowing what happened during the 90s with Clinton. And that's all there is to it.

[BleuYank]

And now we don't have to worry about verny running for another couple years! The government is no place for bigots like him.

[usarmycaptainamerica]

Bigot? Why is he a bigot? I would like to hear in your words facts to back up that statement.

[BleuYank]

Robinson has demonstrated this during his debate with Miller on WRAL. Robinson accused David Crabtree (the moderator) of attending a church that allows gay priests while being challenged to answer a question towards a bill (which had nothing to do with Crabtree's religious views). Now why did he do that? Because he can't stand people different from himself such as people who are homosexual or people who tolerate homosexuals. Therefore the definition of a bigot.

[kevinaj]

What an asshole Vernon Robinson is. He needs to get laid by a mexican prostitute.

[HugeHeelsFan]

Other than the three debates and multiple candidate forums they did together--Hey jackasss why don't you do a little research?

[lrocker]

Hey all assclown liberals. I realize you all live in a vacuum of reality and facts, however get your facts right. Vernon has been bringing the heat to Mr Miller for a while. He has dodged Vernon over and over.

[thebigmiles]

I just figured it out! usarmycaptainamerica IS Vernon Robinson! It all makes so much more sense now...(i'll spend the next few days reflecting on what kind of poop/butt humor you will use to make fun of me since you have already used rectum and anus)

[zippittyay]

Thank You USARMYCAPTAINAMERICA

[CCA4]

Hahahhahahaha the last 20 seconds of that is hilarious

[ivrige]

THiS IS AN EMBARRESMENT FOR THE REPUBLICANS! Low life

[tj017]

Man that guy couldn't find his own ass with GPS and a tracking dog. Vernon is a fuck wit.

[myroncope]

vernon robinson is hilarious. I love when he has no answer for that Rocky Dennis guy when he asks him about why he said he approved of this message. That's why Robinson has been, like all coward Republicans, dodging debates with Brad Miller.

[irockudont56]

ha ha your calling us cowards?! this is from a party that disproves of violence and guns, saying we should just say "Hey, we're sorry about the war", then pull back all troops, and then a couple of months later, we get bombed. and whos fault is that? you Democrats.

[Frightwolf]

"this is from a party that disproves of violence and guns" Propagating violence doesn't make you immune to being a coward. A coward carries a gun; it's easy to bully someone when you have a weapon. Sometimes, I don't get how hateful people like you manage to make your way through life.

[jujubeez08]

yea what you just said is true about the weapons. but, i guess your calling people that uses guns to protect themselves (for example, soldiers) cowards? you guys want to get rid of the protection of the civilians. yes, its true that robbers use guns to rob places. but if you take away the right to carry guns, then robbers who break the law will continue robbing, and because we cant have guns or weapons, we have to watch them get away with it.

[Frightwolf]

I'm for background checks to deter former offenders from getting one. If you have to use a gun to prove a point, you're a coward, because you hide behind bullets and not your spirit or fortitude.

[irockudont56]

spirit and fortitude wont stop a .45 caliber bullet. and note i never said anything about using guns to prove a point. the only reason anyone should use a gun is for wars, protection, hunting, or target practice.

[Frightwolf]

I didn't say spirit will stop a bullet; I said you are a coward if you have to use them to prove a point. I was saying that in response to your point that certain Dems here have called you cowards when their party are gun control advocates. The point was that disapproving of guns does not equal cowardice.

[irockudont56]

and thats were your actually right. do i approve of guns to prove a point? no i dont. but i do approve that guns should be used to protect youself and others. but if the Democrats take that away, then thee will be more deaths then of civilions then there used to be all because they cant protect themselves from people that have guns. esp. at gas stations.

[Frightwolf]

Hey, I personally am not against someone OWNING a gun. But I think restrictions, like background checks, are needed, at least to keep previous offenders from repossessing. I also would hate a hot-tempered guy carrying a gun to use it because of an outrage, so I'm not against bans at certain areas. BUT, I don't think I'd be against, say, ample security measures at banks or equipping them with weapons if a robber comes in.

[Frightwolf]

In my area, you're allowed to have guns in your car (down here in S. Florida). I'm fine with that -- I know of many people that carry weapons in the car, and when you're in such a restrained space, I don't see a problem.  But gun control in general isn't a bad thing. I think it's when you take either extreme that things can get out of hand.

[irockudont56]

well man im glad you dont think like most other Dems. when i say about taking away the right to carry a gun, im talking about what Clinton did. and now, its gonna become a law like that again if Clintons bitch becomes president. and your right, its not a bad thing. its just all those bad people in this world that takes advantage of that right to carry weapons.

[Frightwolf]

Well, you have to be fair -- crime has gone done tremendously since 1993 when Clinton took office, especially firearms crime. If you'd like the links to that, I'd be more than happy to offer.

[irockudont56]

isnt it Clinton that made the "You have no right to carry firearms" law? if not, then who was it? and yes, go ahead. im bored anyways

[Frightwolf]

Well, he did sign The Brady Bill into law. But anyway, the links I'm about to give show a decrease in crime since 1993, a decrease in firearms crimes since 1993, and an increase in the amount of reported crimes, showing that it's not just that people aren't reporting the crimes that are going on.

[jujubeez08]

ps i have a right to be hateful of what the Iraqis did and how Democrats are to afraid to do something about it. Republicans are the only ones who've ever shown in backbone when it comes to wars

[Frightwolf]

I haven't said anything to you, so my 'hateful' comment wasn't on you. Backbone in wars? Look no further than FDR, a Democrat. Dems have backbone -- they were the only ones, besides Chafee, to stand up to the premature Iraq Invasion. Yes, I am disillusioned that there wasn't more opposition, but the only Republican that had the backbone to oppose was a liberal anyway.

[irockudont56]

my bad jujubeez08 is my sis's account. she keeps forgetting to sign out.

[usarmycaptainamerica]

Dear MikaelMN,

You cancerous polyp on the anus of humanity... You cant answer the question with any truth to it. That is fine by me, it just shows you and your argument for what they are both to me and anyone who sees your posts. Another liberal is destroyed in the light of truth..::salutes::

[gorstman]

haha fuck wad he lost so your in good company losers and conservative ass wipes..lberals rule .. jesus has spoken ..God bless America and the intelligence of the majority..climb under a rock and stroke your gun till it goes off.

[MikaelMN]

Go back to sleep Captain (probably a buck private in reality or maybe does some private security work part-time with his shirt untucked). Sorry to have bothered your FAUXNews-induced slumber. No point in continuing the dicussion. Really... Enjoy your digital lobotomy... it is all you've got. There really is nothing to discuss. You have your storefront facade view of reality and you are happy with it, so go ahead and enjoy it. Sleep... Deep sleep... slumber...

[MikaelMN]

Captain Facism Amerika, you love FAUX News. 'Nuf said and consider them to be actual news. I'll leave you to your digital lobotomy. I believe in guns - especially the one you should use to take yourself out of all of our misery.

[usarmycaptainamerica]

MikaeIMN,

You totally ducked my question. You believe in guns? pleasee...LOL The worst you could do is start up a fierce letter writing campaign..LOL

You duck a direct question to your accusation about Bush to which you supplied no info or facts to substansiate the claim.

Typical Godless America hating lib. You can have my pity for you, but not my tax dollars. LOL

[MikaelMN]

"vocal minority?" Your ignorance once again rears it's ugly head. The majority wants out of this war, is aware Bush lied to us to start it, disapproves of the job the 'resident is doing and knows that FAUXNews (which I am sure you worship on a daily basis) is full of crap.

[usarmycaptainamerica]

You finally are half right, only thing I worship is the God of my faith. However I do love Fox News. Because of their Honesty and being "Fair and Balanced" They have become the #1 News Network in a very short 10 years.

Speaking of news, how bout the liberal Air America going financially bankrupt to match their already morally bankrupt agenda of disinformation...MUWAHAHAHAHA!­!!! You libs just dont get it...

[usarmycaptainamerica]

Bush Lied to get us into this war in what way pray tell? I already KNOW what youre going to say, but I will be genereous and let you embarrass yourself further..Give it youre best shot..you guys dont believe in firearms, how bout give it your best whimper, or best whine...

[MikaelMN]

Mr. "USARMYCAPTAINAMERICA"... How much is the GOP lie machine paying you to troll on these free airwaves and pretend you are a veteran, pretend you give a s**t about anything but your wallet? Your ignorance is legion, your integrity is firmly planted in fertilizer and your loyalty is akin to NAZI Youth.

[usarmycaptainamerica]

Mr. Filthy piece of distended rectum (MikaeIMN),

You make alot of assumptions an accusations none of which have any merit. I served 3 years active duty in Fort Bliss Texas(El Paso) and have another 5 years where they can call me back anytime they need me.

[usarmycaptainamerica]

It would be nice to get paid by the GOP but unfortunately I do not.

You are a little young to be a hippie, so I will have to chalk it up to you just being another dreg of society. The vocal minority who hates themselves and the country they live in. I wont keep you any longer, I am sure you have an American flag to burn or something along those lines...

[LaughingLefty]

Just more proof that the Republican party is nothing more than a repository for socipathic, lying criminals. 10 to 1 Vernon is just another right wing pederast that likes to jerk off to pictures of dead Iraqi children.

[tomcat4u]

I'm just afraid that the retards in this country will believe this filth. "OMG HE LIKES OLD MEN AND COLLEGE GIRLS MASTURBATING"

and we live in a "civilized" nation...

[Tarheelhombre]

Watch an embarrassment to North Carolina. He is an ignorant primitive bigot.

[usarmycaptainamerica]

The man is a former Air Force officer. If he can back back up his accusations with his opponents voting record then it's the truth...

[victhpooh]

surely no one ever lied about 'voting records' before! you are so naive

[usarmycaptainamerica]

Hey mental midget, what didn't you understand regarding what I said? I said "if he could back it up" as in "facts" of the mans voting record, and or statements.

You also are "assuming" that the liberal "didn't" do it. Enough said, now eat a granola bar and go hug a tree..

[GeospaciallyGone]

No, it's not. If you voted against an energy bill that was too cozy with oil companies and then voted on a bill that provided funding to the NEA because you want support struggling artists, maybe $5 goes to some woman making a painting of genitalia. That doesn't mean you took money from old people trying to heat their homes and gave it to pornographers.

Anyone who knows about politics knows that Congresspersons are easy to bash because you can easily manipulate their voting record.

[usarmycaptainamerica]

You are from the UK so maybe you are not aware of the NEA, One of the thousands who has recieved money from the National Endowment for the Arts was a picture called "Piss Christ" The artist got $20,000 for suberging a crucifix in his urine. It's pure trash...

[TheJabberwock]

Just because you're in the military doesn't suddenly make you a saint. In fact, they kill people all the time. I know plenty of jerks in the military. Some of them are my friends, but I certainly wouldn't vote for them.

[usarmycaptainamerica]

JABB- Jerks are universal, however this man is not unintelligent, he is an Air Force academy graduate. But your assumption that he isnt a saint is based on what characteristics of HIM? Who said he was? Whats your point, do you know of him doing wrong?

Dont assume, check out his website, google his name and you will see his stance on issues...

[TheJabberwock]

I just know he's a fascist and is hyping up all the issues that all other republicans are trying to hype to keep the issues that people care about out of the spotlight. Like healthcare and the destruction of the environment. I'm not saying he's not unintelligent, I'm just not going to vote for him. Anyways, from the last commercial I've seen, he apparently doesn't care about due process of law.

[TheJabberwock]

I already googled him after I saw his ad about how he wants to see terrorists in cemetaries instead of courtrooms. He's got a vendetta coz his son was killed in the 9/11 attacks. It's too personal, he said "his life is ruined." That's not a good state of mind for a politician.

[usarmycaptainamerica]

Terrorist are not subject to the same laws and protections you and I have, They are also not covered under the Geneva convention. They are in their own class, I rather see a cemetaries filled to capacity with terrorists than victims of their attacks, What would you rather see, and please dodge the question?

[usarmycaptainamerica]

TERRORISTS are not subject to due process of the law. They are not citizens, or lawful combatants. They are not soldiers of a recognized nation.

[TheJabberwock]

dude, your whole thought process is all screwed up. you think on a very limited scale. try to think fourth dimensionally and send me a private message. i hope i don't sound as brainwashed by my own media consumption.

[irockudont56]

i want ot see them in cementaries as well, because thats where they belong. think about this: Did they give a rats ass when they bombed us? HELL NO!! so, why the fuck should we care for them?!

[usarmycaptainamerica]

The more I think of it the more you p##S me off. Today CNN comes out with a propaganda video of a soldier being shot by a sniper amonst civilians.

Why dont you do a search for the 2 young soldiers who went missing and whose wbodies were recovered with their heads and genitals cut off, and their bodies booby trapped.

[TheJabberwock]

wow! where'd that come from?

[usarmycaptainamerica]

Why not do an online search for the American videos and these two young soldiers, and tell me what you think of them being tortured and beheaded?? Is is a war, these people dont play by any of your silly rules. You need to educate yourself so you dont put OUR soldiers at more harm with your silly ideas of right and wrong. Because your ignorance in action is dangerous.

[TheJabberwock]

We're not supposed to be playing by their rules. We're supposed to be the "bigger person" in that situation. Evil never fights fair, dummy. Surely you, naming yourself after Captain America know all that old good vs. evil trash from the comic books.

[usarmycaptainamerica]

Well Jabber,

I am concerned about winning this war we cannot afford to loose and American soldiers lives. You dont seem to have a grasp on the enemy we face. I emplore you to take a look at the videos I have saved, elighten yourself. I dont care public opinion I care about killing the enemy and saving American lives.