i think the ref make it even for both side....we all know those 2 blocks were clean...but the ref called the first one foul and he even it out for both team...so yea..its clean but good call refff....
i agree about the body contact. in both cases the player called for the foul used their other arm to push off of the player they were defending while the shooter was in the act of shooting. it is easy to see the clean block and ignore what the player is doing with the rest of their body. but i guess that is why most people aren't refs good job.
for all who dont know when a ref calls a bad call and knows he called a bad call he'll try to balance it out by calling an equally bad call on the other side
I agree with that consistency comment. But i do believe the first shot was a foul do to the contact on the shooters left shoulder while in the air. If he didn't touch him there it would've been clean. On the second block, that was clean
@JR61PMJ11TH Houston is not an NBA team, Houston Rockets are yes. Thats not the Rockets though, That is a college that is in Houston Texas. They are both college teams,
both of them are good calls u are just dumb you cant hit the guy with your body, just because he didn't slap him with his hand doesn't mean it's clean, you have obviously never played before.
i hate it whenrefs call touch fouls.... theyre so uptight about every little bit of contact, its annoying. when i play, my coaches told me when you play defense on me you can keep a hand on someone as long as your not pushing or making any serious contact.
Your arm is never supposed to be swiping down. Blocking a shot and spiking a volleyball are two different things and in basketball it is reguarly called a foul if there is body contact and arm is coming down. Straight up is never an issue.
I think after the Tim Donaghy thing refs are just assumed to be either making the right call or cheating. At the end of the day, the refs try there best to get every call right and keep there understand of the game consistant with what they call. Another problem is, with 3 refs, you can have 3 different interpretations of the rules
Both clean blocks. I think the refs were calling the contact on the body rather than the blocking hand. Especially with the second foul call, the block was clean, but the other hand was on the offensive player's back, so maybe he called that. Atleast he was consistent.
those are easy calls for the ref cause both guys lowered their arms on the block attempts. They almost always call like that, doesnt always make it right. That call has happened to me more times than I can remember
Well it depends it looks like a clean block but then again you got to look at the body contact.But if i was a ref i would have to call it a clean block because the contact is not that bad
the 2nd one woznt for the blocking hand, but the other hand pushing him. first one, tough call. but when ur defender is leaning like the, step out of the way, try and get a different angle on the block, he falls over and looks like a dumass
Hard to say. Neither defender had LGP, but you could certainly make a case that contact was incidental.
My point to everyone was, there are more than two options here. Just because the shot block is clean and there's a whistle, does NOT mean the official called an illegal use of hands. In these cases, they clearly called blocking fouls, and nothing to do with the defenders' hands/arms.
Both officials anticipated contact. In the first one there was a lot of contact but the ball handler caused most of it; you can't penalize the defense for being there. You gotta let that play go... good blocks
Ur absolutely right. I think they both have LGP here; the contact was pretty insignificant to the play, and the guy got swatted. I go to a ref camp every year that David Hall, who officiated more top 25 D-1 games than anyone last year in the country including an elite 8 game, puts on and according to him, in a play where there is 20% contact and 80% block, you have a "NO CALL". in my opinion there was about 10% contact and 90% block in this play. What do you think
Ur right in that a lot of refs call this a foul but they shouldn't; they shouldn't anticipate the contact but slow their whistle and think about what they just saw. A patient whistle here would have helped these guys get it right.
@Boris222222 Reaching his arm over the other player also tends to make refs call a foul, and there was some body contact. Overall they were consistent and i think thats all that really matters
@jstricks there's body contact on almost EVERY play in the lane, if the defender is going straight up, or in these cases even fading away from the offensive player, it's not a foul. Otherwise as an offensive player, I could ram into you every play and draw "body contact" and get a ton of free throws.
Would you clarify what ur talking about here?? It sounds like ur saying that you can't block a shot with ur hand AND ur arm is that what ur saying?? Please clarify so I can respond.
Good eye. I meant to say, "Even if you block the ball cleanly with your hand/arm, you still cannot block with the BODY." In both cases, the blocked shots were clean, but there were body blocking fouls.
When the whistle blows, don't just look at the hand/arm. A clean shot block is not a ticket to free body contact.
Much respect, brother. I see you're probably a pretty knowledgeable guy. For me, however, despite the contact with the body, I think I'd let this play go. I think the contact was minimal and I do think the defender had LGP. (legal guarding position). I think if it's anything lower than a ratio of 80% block and 20% foul you gotta let it go. Good comments tho I appreciate talkin to you about it.
Those were both fouls. The first has defensive contact present (defensive blocking foul -- defender never established a legal guarding position), the second is a hand check. Good calls. Bad commentating.
WTF BLOCK!
MrLycan54 1 month ago
press 4 and 5 on the keyboard as fast as u can it sounds like hit it up
kylesCrazyVideos 3 months ago
I think both call were wrong, but the ref had to make a judgment call. Even when they are wrong, people need to respect them.
tigger8051 5 months ago
clearly two good clean blocks!! ref sucks!!
MrWonkawonka69 5 months ago
at least they called equally for both sides, one sided refs are the worst
gatman1995 5 months ago
Good basketball, a lil contact , and I mean a lil contact is part of the game.
7Godspeed 6 months ago
Lebron traveled
patscelticsredsox2 6 months ago
the first was ball the second was too but the second one was a good call cuz ur not supposed to put an open hand on another player
ballerman210 6 months ago
i think the ref make it even for both side....we all know those 2 blocks were clean...but the ref called the first one foul and he even it out for both team...so yea..its clean but good call refff....
kalbert009 7 months ago
those were re@lly nice blocks
vladek526 7 months ago
i agree about the body contact. in both cases the player called for the foul used their other arm to push off of the player they were defending while the shooter was in the act of shooting. it is easy to see the clean block and ignore what the player is doing with the rest of their body. but i guess that is why most people aren't refs good job.
glassonglassexpress 7 months ago
Umassbruh?
LED1019 7 months ago
two fouls....... body contact all the way
bball3star3 7 months ago
too much body it appears from the refs angle..tough call but thats bball
dapinkponyprincesses 7 months ago
2 wrongs dont make a right, i wonder if the refs mom eva told him that.
VideoMike14 7 months ago
no foul
XAVIXguy 7 months ago
for all who dont know when a ref calls a bad call and knows he called a bad call he'll try to balance it out by calling an equally bad call on the other side
mrdunkalicious 8 months ago
the ref was wrong
visoandrea 8 months ago
both blocks
atharte 8 months ago
I agree with that consistency comment. But i do believe the first shot was a foul do to the contact on the shooters left shoulder while in the air. If he didn't touch him there it would've been clean. On the second block, that was clean
cyress6 8 months ago
bs call
giannistefanorivera 8 months ago
Its because hes white
DJDpranks 8 months ago
@JR61PMJ11TH my point is, its not the Houston Rockets where Yao Ming played with. Oh cmon!
miahObera11 8 months ago
@JR61PMJ11TH Houston is not an NBA team, Houston Rockets are yes. Thats not the Rockets though, That is a college that is in Houston Texas. They are both college teams,
bodidawson37 8 months ago
@JR61PMJ11TH houston rockets FAGGOT!
miahObera11 8 months ago
great blocks...no foul
bebiboyyy 9 months ago
block what do you think i am a idet
MrBananaeater123 9 months ago
@MrBananaeater123 yes.
pats186 9 months ago
So basically they canceled each other out.
IHeartLogs 9 months ago
There was body contact while in the act of shooting, thats why fouls were called...BUT YES CLEAN BLOCKS!!
Neither one should have been called foul!!
xivklownin 9 months ago
dam that guy is hella ugly rofl
xxMagicJohnson32xx 10 months ago
both blocks refs were on drugs
krazywu 10 months ago
one bad call followed by one make-up call
mxzpowder34 10 months ago
COMEEEEE OOOOOOOON, NO FOOOOOOUL!!!
leandrong 11 months ago
according to the book; no call might have been the best call considering the game..
yvcsync 11 months ago
what a vigina
chicagofan1234567890 1 year ago
both of them are good calls u are just dumb you cant hit the guy with your body, just because he didn't slap him with his hand doesn't mean it's clean, you have obviously never played before.
the1stgrassman 1 year ago
Second one is kinda touchy...I think the first was a foul just by body contact but as for the second, just an utter bad call.
InSaine10 1 year ago
I agree two bad calls but consistent
syoung6204 1 year ago
Neither of them were fouls. The reff knew that, and the 2nd call was a make up for the other bad call.
snowgoez 1 year ago
i dont think they were bad. look at his right arm on the second one. You gotta get off him
GriffinMcCarley 1 year ago
The defenders off arm is making contact with the offensive player, i can see why they think it is a foul.
MrJustinCrawley 1 year ago
2 very bad calls
MoneyHustler07 1 year ago
clean blocks those refs needs to go back for training...
koyboy86 1 year ago
i hate it whenrefs call touch fouls.... theyre so uptight about every little bit of contact, its annoying. when i play, my coaches told me when you play defense on me you can keep a hand on someone as long as your not pushing or making any serious contact.
23JordanFlight23 1 year ago
The body contact was legal they went straight up.
simpter5921 1 year ago
NOOB BLOCK!
KingTwinkie1 1 year ago
noob ass ref
Dyadantumbe 1 year ago
this is how it happens all the time the refs will miss a call and they try to make it up by givin the other team a call happens all the time
WP34DILLON 1 year ago
This happens to me all the time in my games. Im only in middle school,but still I mean I get so pissed but I dont want to get a T.
GoldenGamers123 1 year ago
Your arm is never supposed to be swiping down. Blocking a shot and spiking a volleyball are two different things and in basketball it is reguarly called a foul if there is body contact and arm is coming down. Straight up is never an issue.
sixeight86 1 year ago
Ref needs to get some glasses
Ridein345678 1 year ago
DAMN!!! FUCK THIS REF...
MasterRecordNando 1 year ago
that jersey look like rocket.
DrifterZDK 1 year ago
the second block the guy clearly has his right hand on the shooters back, and they will call that every time
FilipTadic 1 year ago
I think after the Tim Donaghy thing refs are just assumed to be either making the right call or cheating. At the end of the day, the refs try there best to get every call right and keep there understand of the game consistant with what they call. Another problem is, with 3 refs, you can have 3 different interpretations of the rules
sokothegreekfreak 1 year ago 5
@sokothegreekfreak R u a ref? :)
THEGANG96 5 months ago
Both clean blocks. I think the refs were calling the contact on the body rather than the blocking hand. Especially with the second foul call, the block was clean, but the other hand was on the offensive player's back, so maybe he called that. Atleast he was consistent.
daez237 1 year ago
his hand was on him when he jumped fould reff got the first one..
graffitibomber561 1 year ago
THAT SHIT IS RACISM
adepts1able 1 year ago
those are easy calls for the ref cause both guys lowered their arms on the block attempts. They almost always call like that, doesnt always make it right. That call has happened to me more times than I can remember
TheCarrShow 2 years ago
yea the refs are terrible in every sport they dont know whats goin on and they were clean stuffs should be no call.
yourmomsmom101 2 years ago
I think the first one is a foul; he hits the ball clean but with his other hand he hits the guys other arm.
Mopoleon 2 years ago
clean
anklebreakers101 2 years ago
refs are terrible these days in every sport
tamiro1992 2 years ago
both were clean blocks
ODUB13 2 years ago
both clean blocks.
fattymattyd4 2 years ago
the last one was probably a make-up call.
thepkmatt 2 years ago
i think the first 1 was a foul and the other 1was a clean block
upsmen 2 years ago
he BEAT dat SHIT like GreaT pussy LOL!
yoboybob 2 years ago
2 bad calls, good they were consistent tho. u can deal with bad calls as long as the ref is consistent
FlightNumber123 2 years ago 93
@FlightNumber123 I wouldn't exactly say so cause that can really mess up your flow ...but overall you're right
6academic6 1 year ago
@FlightNumber123 called it for both sides to
Cmbeastly 6 months ago
the first one APPEARED to be a foul in live action, but the replay showed otherwise.
I think the 2nd was a little bit sketchy.
Musicalsrockmysocks 2 years ago
Blocks no fouls, refs suck!
astepanyan123456 2 years ago
First one clean he went back and didnt run in to him second one foul he had to much contact.
hungrysalmon3 2 years ago
Well it depends it looks like a clean block but then again you got to look at the body contact.But if i was a ref i would have to call it a clean block because the contact is not that bad
toosweet2005 2 years ago
the 2nd one woznt for the blocking hand, but the other hand pushing him. first one, tough call. but when ur defender is leaning like the, step out of the way, try and get a different angle on the block, he falls over and looks like a dumass
limosince2007 2 years ago
Hard to say. Neither defender had LGP, but you could certainly make a case that contact was incidental.
My point to everyone was, there are more than two options here. Just because the shot block is clean and there's a whistle, does NOT mean the official called an illegal use of hands. In these cases, they clearly called blocking fouls, and nothing to do with the defenders' hands/arms.
bainsey89 2 years ago
Both officials anticipated contact. In the first one there was a lot of contact but the ball handler caused most of it; you can't penalize the defense for being there. You gotta let that play go... good blocks
chanmancut 2 years ago
Actually, you can penalize the defender for "being there" if he doesn't have "LGP," legal guarding position. Neither defender had LGP here.
bainsey89 2 years ago
Ur absolutely right. I think they both have LGP here; the contact was pretty insignificant to the play, and the guy got swatted. I go to a ref camp every year that David Hall, who officiated more top 25 D-1 games than anyone last year in the country including an elite 8 game, puts on and according to him, in a play where there is 20% contact and 80% block, you have a "NO CALL". in my opinion there was about 10% contact and 90% block in this play. What do you think
chanmancut 2 years ago
they were both clean but their bodys were so close the ref had to make a split second decision. Life goes on...
Mnight069 2 years ago
Life does go on but both refs still F ed these plays up. I'd be irate if i'd been one of these defenders and I had gotten all ball like that.
chanmancut 2 years ago
they were both clean. the second one was a make up call
manwithkindface 2 years ago
they were blocks, but refs usually call those fouls since your reaching over the other guys body. happens alot in game and you have to deal with it.
adheeb 3 years ago
Ur right in that a lot of refs call this a foul but they shouldn't; they shouldn't anticipate the contact but slow their whistle and think about what they just saw. A patient whistle here would have helped these guys get it right.
chanmancut 2 years ago
both clean
CATSFan1up 3 years ago
yeah they are blocked shots but did anyone notice the body contact while the shooters were in the air? that body contact is what the fouls were for
jstricks 3 years ago 36
I think the contact was minimal bro.
chanmancut 2 years ago
@jstricks there was no body contact on the second block, and on the first one, he's going straight upp so it doesn't matter
Boris222222 1 year ago
@Boris222222 Reaching his arm over the other player also tends to make refs call a foul, and there was some body contact. Overall they were consistent and i think thats all that really matters
bmrider424 1 year ago
@jstricks do u think they Are girls? let them play basketball...
alexgiambi 1 year ago
@jstricks there's body contact on almost EVERY play in the lane, if the defender is going straight up, or in these cases even fading away from the offensive player, it's not a foul. Otherwise as an offensive player, I could ram into you every play and draw "body contact" and get a ton of free throws.
this was great defense.
NapAllDay718 10 months ago
@jstricks you call that body contact? i can see your vagina from here
kleansr 8 months ago
@jstricks thats not that kinda contact where u call foul , if offense runs into defender in the air thats a no call or charge both were bad calls
biustas 7 months ago
@jstricks if the defenders jump straight upwards (which they did) body contact is perfectly legal...they were both good blocks, no foul there
337429 7 months ago
@jstricks Then that must be a bad ref, they barely bumped each other. Any other ref today would've let it go.
xxitzlegendaryxx 7 months ago
@jstricks body contact doesn't mean anything , they went straight upp , and the shooters created the contact .
Cameronhaswagg 7 months ago
Both are blocking fouls. Even if you block the ball cleanly with your hand/arm, you still cannot block with the both. That's what happened here.
bainsey89 3 years ago
Would you clarify what ur talking about here?? It sounds like ur saying that you can't block a shot with ur hand AND ur arm is that what ur saying?? Please clarify so I can respond.
chanmancut 2 years ago
Good eye. I meant to say, "Even if you block the ball cleanly with your hand/arm, you still cannot block with the BODY." In both cases, the blocked shots were clean, but there were body blocking fouls.
When the whistle blows, don't just look at the hand/arm. A clean shot block is not a ticket to free body contact.
bainsey89 2 years ago
Much respect, brother. I see you're probably a pretty knowledgeable guy. For me, however, despite the contact with the body, I think I'd let this play go. I think the contact was minimal and I do think the defender had LGP. (legal guarding position). I think if it's anything lower than a ratio of 80% block and 20% foul you gotta let it go. Good comments tho I appreciate talkin to you about it.
chanmancut 2 years ago
blocks. there wasnt enough contact 2 be considered fouls
SpoobTV 3 years ago
blocks
1051842 3 years ago
They may or may not be blocks, but what's most important is that similar plays had similar calls.
kingsman1288 3 years ago
very good point! he's right consistency is the main thing!
Scn99 3 years ago 2
BLOCKS!!!!
tommo090892 3 years ago
blocks
BlackburnBowlingInc 3 years ago 2
blocks!
mastereismaname 3 years ago
blocks
sungjina 3 years ago
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Those were both fouls. The first has defensive contact present (defensive blocking foul -- defender never established a legal guarding position), the second is a hand check. Good calls. Bad commentating.
CAScreaminDude 4 years ago
BLOCKS
awojciak 4 years ago 2
blocks
MixesAndStuff 4 years ago 2
not fouls
toreadoroflove 4 years ago 2