@RayZon97 "not a very good christian if you ask me"
Why you say that? Most Christianity understand evolution. Only a few Satanic cults are holding out for the false doctrine of Young Earth Creationism. That's all it was anyway, from the start. A false deceptive doctrine designed to attempt to destroy Christianity.
"Therefore rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith and will pay no attention to Jewish myths or to the merely human commands of those who reject the truth."
lol. Sarah Palin. She thought she'd take the god road to political prosperity. Kudos Sarah, u tried. im sure Sarah is better than the way most people view her.
I'll bet Palin would have done less damage to our liberties than Obama, but she's still a religious nut who would allow the Israeli's to jam their arms up her rectum in order to make her their private sockpuppet.
....ummmm....so there aren't creationist scientists? Fail, of course science should be taught in science class, but science has been religiously driven far longer than atheists care to admit. Atheists like to deny that if it wasn't for the discoveries by theists long ago before atheism even existed, then we wouldn't be where we are today....it's amazing.
@aDislikeBot Okay, then explain to me what atheism is without evolution. Don't give me that agnostic crap either, you need to believe in a creator or not, there's no grey area.
@TheBosstrain Atheism means you don't believe in a god...
Evolution is a scientific fact and has nothing to do with not believing in a god. Although it does contradict the idea of a god if thats what you're getting at.
@aDislikeBot I would now like an example of atheism before evolution, since prior to that it would be extremely dumb to be atheistic...or is that what you mean, that atheists are...dumb?
@TheBosstrain Atheists dumb? Haha, when I see someone intelligent its always safe to assume they are atheist. But just because evolution helped people realise there is no god, doesn't mean evolution defines atheism.
@TheBosstrain Bush beating? You were making completely dumb statements that were so obvious I didn't need to go and look up the exact facts. Everyone is born an atheist, so there is at no point when atheism didn't exist haha.
@TheBosstrain Just look it up. Early Hindus had a school of philosophy that rejected any idea of a god or gods. Several Greek philosophers were athieistic (or at least agnostic), including Socrates. The term "athieist" comes from 16th century France. All of this predates the birth of Darwin, let alone his ideas of evolution and natural selection.
@ODaemienE Thank you, it's been so long since an atheist has even given me half an answer (I'm jumping to the conclusion that you are atheistic ;D), but you gave a full one.
Not to sound condescending, of course, I'm totally serious. You should know there's a lot of atheists that do not answer me without doing some acrobatics around the point itself...they come back with the wildest replies that have nothing to do with it...I'd think they'd need to turn in their badge of atheism ;).
@ODaemienE I've heard of these philosophies of course, but I always thought they were simply agnostic, not entirely atheist, just searching for something that was different or had a better answer than the religions around them. I'm looking for atheism that has no other answer than "there is no creator". Reincarnation is not exactly that. True atheism implies that this is all there is, nothing came before, and nothing comes after. Or am I totally off base?
@TheBosstrain I think you are off base in that atheism does not have to assert that there is nothing before or after what we term existence; just that it, by definition, cannot be proven or implied by reason. Atheists do not have the burden of proof because they are not asserting anything other than Theistic beliefs lack proof. They needn't have an alternative. I am, by the way, not an Atheist. I think most would call me a Dieist, but I prefer saying that I have a personal belief system.
@ODaemienE It would seem that way, since atheism is seeking proof, and theism (in certain areas) points to a divine; I also have to agree that atheism seeks a more reasonable path. However, I have long searched for an atheistic answer to how the universe came from nothing without a divine...and there is none. Sure, some come up with various theories, I even recently watched the video "A Universe From Nothing", but in the end...it merely pushed the beginning back further, no answer.
@ODaemienE All I'm saying is that atheism has a pair of massive cojones, and all it ever does is answer questions that lead to more questions..no actual answers...at least a theist has an answer ;). Am I wrong?
its like if someone asked what was behind a closed a door, the scientist would try to open the door and find out, a theist would just go "a magical unicorn who created the door and hence cant ever be disproven"
its not an answer in the same that answering "Arnold Schwarzenegger" to a mathematical question is not an answer.
@ourorboros2 Except for the fact that there are plenty of Creation scientist, I might agree with you, however, science is not restricted to Evolution alone. Just because you think the universe came from nothing does not give you exclusive rights to science, sorry.
@Cenamark2 Wow, what an educated response...you're really impressing me there, pal. tell ya' what, why don't you go measure your penis a couple more times, I'm sure that will sort things out. ;)
um...thats like saying science is not restricted to gravity alone, science is what gave us the theory of evolution, you cant have one with out the other, this isn't theism, you cant pick and choose which parts of science to believe and which not too.
also, please learnt he difference between the theory of evolution and the big bang...
@ourorboros2 This is good, an actually debatable topic.
Google creation scientists list for me, please, then click on the top result (also the second result goes into far more detail on the history of creation science, but just for a list the top will do). Not to be an ass, but would you then mind telling those people that their not scientists?... I don't think you'd want to simply because their doctorate says otherwise, and they won't believe you. Is it still impossible?
yup, just looked up your little list and i would quite happy to tell most them they aren't scientists, mostly because from that list only three of them actually had PhD's and only one of the three had it in a field with anything to do with biology or evolution and he's been dead for 17 years.
the majority of that list however where Christians with no education who had either written books or set up organisation, nothing more.
the entire idea of creationist science is baffling, the very concept is almost a slap in the face to reality, the entire field is literally based around twisting christian mythology to make it fit with current science, its not a true discipline and to even hint that it is would be saddening.
its a bunch of deluded, uneducated morons trying to twisting both science and their own beliefs because they simply cant accept reality, its pathetic at best.
oh and how fun, on closer inspection all of the books referenced where published by Christian publishing agencies with the institution for creationist science(an incredibly discredited organisation) publishing most...
hell..one of them published a book about the feasibility of Noah's ark.../facepalm
that alone should be enough to show anyone with more than two braincells that these people are morons.
ofcourse they're wasting their time... you do realise its only america that is still in debate on this right?
hell in england we dont even teach creation in our religious education classes let alone as some sort of science...even the bloody arch-bishop of canterbury agrees that creationism has no place in schools, let alone science classrooms...
honestly, the rest of the world has moved on, decades ago, why do americans feel this need to stay in the stone ages...?
@ourorboros2 Oh, don't worry, the infection has spread widely over here. Except for private schools that teach certain religions (not all private schools mind you), the Torah has been practically stamped out. We're raising a generations of mindless atheists :facepalm:, and the school shootings continue to be a serious problem, some atheist kid just recently got shot down for pointing a fake gun at an officer in a school, and that used to never happen before. :(
@TheBosstrain The theists merely believes himself to have the answers, but all in all is lying to himself. At least the atheist can honestly say "I don't know."
@IcareForChrist Maybe you should populate your page with something. People who see a blank youtube user page with no videos, very little activity and created very recently are used to seeing that sort of behaviour from trolls.
Also you get flagged if you say something stupid - not necessarily religious. If you say something that has been refuted millions of times, answered by thousands of people, people will think you're just provoking them.
@IcareForChrist Maybe if you weren't so intellectually dishonest when trying to engage in a rational discussion with people, you wouldn't get flagged.
For people wanting to reply to "IcareForChrist". I just had a look at his profile. He joined yesterday. He's probably a troll who goes by different names in order to constantly harass people without being recognised.
I probably should have checked his profile before I replied to him.
Well holly shit... Something that she didn't say that WASN'T completely fucking retarded. Of course she's mother fucking Einstein in comparison to Perry and Bachman.
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Its funny how 2 years ago, Palin was considered the dumbest person in politics. Now, here is the kicker, I would pick this bitch over ANY of the current idiots running for presidency. Oh, and I have no problem agreeing with what she said here, she has the right to her belief in God, and I am also glad that she sees that belief does not belong in a science class.
@BlakeInternational The better way of putting it is to say that she is not as unintelligent or ill-informed as the media makes out.
It is a peculiar arrogance of the left to always assume that anyone who questions or challenges their dogmas is 'de facto' less intelligent & educated than themselves - when the reverse is all too often the case.
I think what she means is the whole current Catholic view on creation. That the big bang did exist, evolution is real etc. I think she just believes in a (non interventional) God being the "prime mover" of the universe. Even as an atheist, I can dig it if someone else wants to believe this because it does'nt really interfere with science.
This woman is proof that the phrase Natural Selection is wrong - it should be Natural Rejection: Nature rejects things that can not ultimately survive in the environment available. Thankfully, enough Americans found her ignorance and prejudice so offensive that they tossed the bitch out of the room. But it took a while, and she has a power base. Indicating that America has been depriving her children of education for at least one generation - she is proof. Scary is the only way to describe her.
When did god started having a hand? and how do they know god live up there and not down there? do they still think earth is flat? why do you want to teach something that you believe is wrong?
"Imagine the people who believe such things and who are not ashamed to ignore, totally, all the patient findings of thinking minds through all the centuries since the Bible was written. And it is these ignorant people, the most uneducated, the most unimaginative, the most unthinking among us, who would make themselves the guides and leaders of us all; who would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us; who would invade our schools and libraries and homes." -- I. Asimov
IS SHE KIDDING!?......she must be. Someone like Sarah Palin couldn't have possibly come to that conclusion. She must just be saying it for approval points. Maybe she's trying to get on the good sides of people opposite sides of the issue by compromising. Maybe she was just told to say that......but....but what if she really meant all that...?
Got it right here but what an embarrassment for the attention she got and still gets in the media. I bet she really thinks dinosaurs and people were on the earth at the same time. Now she has some half ass gig on Fox as an annoying comentator what a joke
@MrDanielSultan how is it proven? because someone said so? fact? how can something come out of nothing? That is one of the law of physics that can't be broken.
@orangeboy97 Well, your idea of "something" is faulty. "Something" as we see it is merely a positive, and that positive have a negative. Put these 2 together and we have ZERO. So nothing actually came out of nothing. Something didnt come out of nothing, its merely nothing came out of nothing.
@orangeboy97 Evolution has nothing with the origin of the universe to do with. View the universe as positives and negatives. There are positives, which are energy and matter. Then there are negatives, which are anti-matter. Anti-matter is the exact opposite of matter, and there is a equal amount of positives and negatives. Add these together, and you get zero. So, simply zero divided into 2 parts out of nothing. Matter and energy is something because there is a opposite.
@RawSwedishMeatball a positive and a negative is ZERO so how did the earth get here? how can it divide by it'self? if you have a positive and a negative magnet they want to stick together, so what made them come apart. Something has to make them separate just like a magnet.
@orangeboy97 True, and the prime mover has not been discovered yet, even if it has to have one. Quantom mechanics tells us some things doesnt need a cause, which gives the possibility that the big bang didnt need something to cause it. I dont know how old you are, but by going from the number of 97 id say 14 or 15. I need to know at this point to get a hang of how much you know if we are going to continue the conversation.
« If you believe in evolution, then where did the oringle matter and engery come from that started the big bang? »
Ehr... Do you want to discuss biology, or cosmology? Pick one, please. If we start discussing two separate subjects simultaneously, it'll just get confusing.
@IcareForChrist I'm not being a smartass, but you need to look-up "theory".................... "not proven" is in the "hypothesis stage", not the theory stage.
@IcareForChrist That is wrong. That isn't the scientific definition of fact and theory. A theory is a model which explains how something happens. A fact is an observation, or evidence. A HYPOTHESIS is a proposed theory - one which isn't supported by evidence at that poitn.
A theory (model) is supported by facts (evidence).
@therealsan I'm not a religion supporter, but yes, religion is a theory. A theory is a system of ideas that work together to explain something. Regardless of your belief in religion, religion is a theory according to that definition.
@IcareForChrist ICFC: I was thinking in terms of the amount of facts/proof/evidence for T.O.E. that it has behind it. Even for a layman, like myself, it is very clear that the T.O.E. is a proven theory. Though it may not yet be considered law, it is generally accepted by an overwhelming amount of scientists from several disciplines as proven theory. That is basically what I was saying....sorry for any confusion on my part.
@orangemod Its not a law because a law isn't a model for anything. A law is something that's been repeatedly observed to happen, well, there is a problem with that since some laws we still use are actually wrong in certain cases (like Ohm's law - it doesn't always apply, so we now have Ohmic and Non-Ohmic devices). Anyway - a theory is not "less than" a law.
@IcareForChrist evolution is a fact..face palm, you must think the word "theory" actually means: "random stabs in the dark" when it really means: "an explanation of certain phenomena that is well-supported by a large body of facts and often unifies similarly well-supported hypotheses" i.e. atomic theory, gravitational theory, germ theory, cell theory, some-people-are-dumb-motherfuckers-theory, etc. evolution has nothing to do with trying to prove or disprove a good.
@IcareForChrist Nothing will ever be proven, Biology often works on a 95% limit, however the theory of evolution is the best model we have for explaining the change in populations over a long time. It is supported by more evidence than any other theories and hypotheses to date. To deny evolution happens is comparable to denying that bacteria adapt to become resistant to certain drugs.
@Abengoshis " To deny evolution happens is comparable to denying that bacteria adapt to become resistant to certain drugs."
I will go one further for you from the Christian perspective.
Since God created everything, including all the natural laws of the universe, denying evolution is no different than denying Gravity, and is denying God is all powerful.
@IcareForChrist are you really that much of a fucking inbred. evolution has been proven over and over and over again in labs. you're just another dumb fuck that doesn't know anything about biology,science,physics, chemistry, cosmology etc.
as a geologist i can only conclude from this comment that you probably know nothing about carbon dating apart from that its used by people who are 100 times more educated than you are...
@IcareForChrist I never said it did. I said fossils have to do with evolution. We have found skeletons dating back to thousands of years back, all of them with small changes to them, all of them with the same base DNA code that humans have. And if you don't understand what DNA is, it's the thing that's inside your body and decides who you are - not some silly imaginary figure in the sky.
The DNA goes back ALL the way back to MILLIONS of years back - therefor proving evolution.
@dramaticpickles Because there are museums, archives and documentaries where these skeletons are put up for show (and documentation). Also I got the number off, 65 million years is more accurate. And that's just the --sapiens part of the species, not counting the other unevolved forms before that crawling up from the oceans.
i was expecting her to say something stupid like dinosaurs existed 2000 years ago
litojonny 6 hours ago
The answer would have turned differently if it wasn't for her science teacher parents!
Eritreawi 7 hours ago
:O
warlorddoug18 12 hours ago
My my, she actually gave a reasonable answer.
epsdelta 13 hours ago
Wow. I really expected an embarrassingly stupid answer. I am thrown by this. Nice tactic.
dfdooling 16 hours ago
Well.......1 point for Palin I suppose.
SonOfNye 20 hours ago 2
My brain literally exploded
Jargonwhat 20 hours ago
lol not that i disagree, but this bitch calls herself a christian?! lmao not a very good christian if you ask me
RayZon97 1 day ago
@RayZon97 "not a very good christian if you ask me"
Why you say that? Most Christianity understand evolution. Only a few Satanic cults are holding out for the false doctrine of Young Earth Creationism. That's all it was anyway, from the start. A false deceptive doctrine designed to attempt to destroy Christianity.
"Therefore rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith and will pay no attention to Jewish myths or to the merely human commands of those who reject the truth."
redddbaron 6 hours ago
@RayZon97 Oh. So I suppose good Christians go around calling women bitches?
celam1244 4 hours ago
what a milf!
Casshyr 1 day ago
Palin is an evolutionary mistake!
FatFriendly1 1 day ago
lol. Sarah Palin. She thought she'd take the god road to political prosperity. Kudos Sarah, u tried. im sure Sarah is better than the way most people view her.
Imreason 1 day ago
aawwwwwwwww, now i kinda have to like this woman now
matt1523 1 day ago
HOLY SHIT! DID NOT EXPECT!
JtHih 1 day ago
this is for god-squatters U JUST GOT JACKED BITCH!!!!!!
missilaneus 1 day ago
182 creationists just had their bubbles burst.
hellomate639 2 days ago
It's either one or the other people.
b24harman 2 days ago
That's pretty reasonable, actually.
ghrabi33 2 days ago
Wasn't expecting this. like her a bit better now
XabiAlonsosCousin 2 days ago
I have to say this was answered really well by her
myradrealityshow 2 days ago
Holy shit, I agree with something that she said.
CyclonexxxIce 2 days ago
They called it a 'theory'. Lol.
RaoulPrompt69 3 days ago
I'll bet Palin would have done less damage to our liberties than Obama, but she's still a religious nut who would allow the Israeli's to jam their arms up her rectum in order to make her their private sockpuppet.
dgl1962 3 days ago
If conservatives were this level-headed and understanding on a daily basis, I might actually respect them.
rizuhbull 3 days ago
Oh, a well presented and respectable perspective.
wetmanispwnt 3 days ago
@wetmanispwnt ha, I was surprised as well.
LetsGoFcukingMental 2 days ago
Respect...
shashwat986 3 days ago
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I clicked this expecting another reason to loathe the woman, but was pleasantly surprised.
ArizonaByThe27 3 days ago
I clicked this expecting another reason to loathe the woman, but was pleasantly surprised.
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Atheism is wrong.
If evolution were real, how come species go extinct?
They would have EVOLVED to SURVIVE!
Atheists: 0
Christians: 1
tyber32 4 days ago
Atheism is wrong.
If evolution were real, how come species go extinct?
They would have EVOLVED to SURVIVE!
Atheists: 0
Christians: 1
tyber32 4 days ago
Stop arguing, it's futile. Stop feeding the trolls (including you, Eze, spend your time on making more awesome animations!!!).
Abengoshis 4 days ago
Evolution is wrong and unscientific
IQ 50-99 : believe in Evolution
IQ 160-250 :believe in Christian and Jehovah
TheKevintran8 4 days ago
@TheKevintran8 What about 100-159?
BottlecapVids 4 days ago
@TheKevintran8
So where is your source?
Redstick27 4 days ago
@TheKevintran8
Hmm... seems legit.
BeRad117 4 days ago
@TheKevintran8 Bull. Shit.
Give me a source.
AlliKatNya 4 days ago
@TheKevintran8
IQ 0-1 = TheKevintran8
phdan123 2 days ago
@TheKevintran8
IQ 0-1 = TheKevintran8
phdan123 2 days ago
....ummmm....so there aren't creationist scientists? Fail, of course science should be taught in science class, but science has been religiously driven far longer than atheists care to admit. Atheists like to deny that if it wasn't for the discoveries by theists long ago before atheism even existed, then we wouldn't be where we are today....it's amazing.
TheBosstrain 5 days ago
@TheBosstrain Before atheism even existed? You clearly don't know the definition of atheism haha.
aDislikeBot 5 days ago
@aDislikeBot Well, as far as I can tell, evolution is brand new, it hasn't been around that long...sorry.
TheBosstrain 5 days ago
@TheBosstrain Um... what? Wtf does evolution have to do with atheism?
aDislikeBot 5 days ago
@aDislikeBot Okay, then explain to me what atheism is without evolution. Don't give me that agnostic crap either, you need to believe in a creator or not, there's no grey area.
TheBosstrain 5 days ago
@TheBosstrain Atheism means you don't believe in a god...
Evolution is a scientific fact and has nothing to do with not believing in a god. Although it does contradict the idea of a god if thats what you're getting at.
aDislikeBot 5 days ago
@aDislikeBot I would now like an example of atheism before evolution, since prior to that it would be extremely dumb to be atheistic...or is that what you mean, that atheists are...dumb?
TheBosstrain 5 days ago
@TheBosstrain Atheists dumb? Haha, when I see someone intelligent its always safe to assume they are atheist. But just because evolution helped people realise there is no god, doesn't mean evolution defines atheism.
aDislikeBot 5 days ago
@aDislikeBot Stop the bush beating, at least ODaemienE was able to answer. I must now congratulate him.
TheBosstrain 5 days ago
@TheBosstrain Bush beating? You were making completely dumb statements that were so obvious I didn't need to go and look up the exact facts. Everyone is born an atheist, so there is at no point when atheism didn't exist haha.
aDislikeBot 5 days ago
@aDislikeBot I'm done talking to you, you're running about like a decapitated chicken.
TheBosstrain 5 days ago
@TheBosstrain I'll accept the victory.
aDislikeBot 5 days ago
@TheBosstrain Just look it up. Early Hindus had a school of philosophy that rejected any idea of a god or gods. Several Greek philosophers were athieistic (or at least agnostic), including Socrates. The term "athieist" comes from 16th century France. All of this predates the birth of Darwin, let alone his ideas of evolution and natural selection.
ODaemienE 5 days ago
@ODaemienE Thank you, it's been so long since an atheist has even given me half an answer (I'm jumping to the conclusion that you are atheistic ;D), but you gave a full one.
Not to sound condescending, of course, I'm totally serious. You should know there's a lot of atheists that do not answer me without doing some acrobatics around the point itself...they come back with the wildest replies that have nothing to do with it...I'd think they'd need to turn in their badge of atheism ;).
TheBosstrain 5 days ago
@ODaemienE I've heard of these philosophies of course, but I always thought they were simply agnostic, not entirely atheist, just searching for something that was different or had a better answer than the religions around them. I'm looking for atheism that has no other answer than "there is no creator". Reincarnation is not exactly that. True atheism implies that this is all there is, nothing came before, and nothing comes after. Or am I totally off base?
TheBosstrain 5 days ago
@TheBosstrain I think you are off base in that atheism does not have to assert that there is nothing before or after what we term existence; just that it, by definition, cannot be proven or implied by reason. Atheists do not have the burden of proof because they are not asserting anything other than Theistic beliefs lack proof. They needn't have an alternative. I am, by the way, not an Atheist. I think most would call me a Dieist, but I prefer saying that I have a personal belief system.
ODaemienE 3 days ago
@ODaemienE It would seem that way, since atheism is seeking proof, and theism (in certain areas) points to a divine; I also have to agree that atheism seeks a more reasonable path. However, I have long searched for an atheistic answer to how the universe came from nothing without a divine...and there is none. Sure, some come up with various theories, I even recently watched the video "A Universe From Nothing", but in the end...it merely pushed the beginning back further, no answer.
TheBosstrain 3 days ago
@ODaemienE All I'm saying is that atheism has a pair of massive cojones, and all it ever does is answer questions that lead to more questions..no actual answers...at least a theist has an answer ;). Am I wrong?
TheBosstrain 3 days ago
@TheBosstrain
yes, you are wrong.
you dont have anything especially not an answer.
its like if someone asked what was behind a closed a door, the scientist would try to open the door and find out, a theist would just go "a magical unicorn who created the door and hence cant ever be disproven"
its not an answer in the same that answering "Arnold Schwarzenegger" to a mathematical question is not an answer.
ourorboros2 2 days ago
@ourorboros2 Except for the fact that there are plenty of Creation scientist, I might agree with you, however, science is not restricted to Evolution alone. Just because you think the universe came from nothing does not give you exclusive rights to science, sorry.
TheBosstrain 2 days ago
@TheBosstrain Creationist scientist is an oxymoron. And creationist scientists are morons.
Cenamark2 2 days ago
@Cenamark2 Wow, what an educated response...you're really impressing me there, pal. tell ya' what, why don't you go measure your penis a couple more times, I'm sure that will sort things out. ;)
TheBosstrain 2 days ago
@TheBosstrain I'd measure my penis some more, but the odometer on my car broke. Maybe I can use Google Maps to do it.
Seriously though there is no such thing as a creationist scientist. Just a bunch of pimps and charlatans hawking religion.
Cenamark2 2 days ago
@TheBosstrain
"science is not restricted to Evolution alone. "
um...thats like saying science is not restricted to gravity alone, science is what gave us the theory of evolution, you cant have one with out the other, this isn't theism, you cant pick and choose which parts of science to believe and which not too.
also, please learnt he difference between the theory of evolution and the big bang...
ourorboros2 2 days ago
@ourorboros2 This is good, an actually debatable topic.
Google creation scientists list for me, please, then click on the top result (also the second result goes into far more detail on the history of creation science, but just for a list the top will do). Not to be an ass, but would you then mind telling those people that their not scientists?... I don't think you'd want to simply because their doctorate says otherwise, and they won't believe you. Is it still impossible?
TheBosstrain 2 days ago
@TheBosstrain
yup, just looked up your little list and i would quite happy to tell most them they aren't scientists, mostly because from that list only three of them actually had PhD's and only one of the three had it in a field with anything to do with biology or evolution and he's been dead for 17 years.
the majority of that list however where Christians with no education who had either written books or set up organisation, nothing more.
ourorboros2 2 days ago
@TheBosstrain
the entire idea of creationist science is baffling, the very concept is almost a slap in the face to reality, the entire field is literally based around twisting christian mythology to make it fit with current science, its not a true discipline and to even hint that it is would be saddening.
its a bunch of deluded, uneducated morons trying to twisting both science and their own beliefs because they simply cant accept reality, its pathetic at best.
ourorboros2 2 days ago
@TheBosstrain
oh and how fun, on closer inspection all of the books referenced where published by Christian publishing agencies with the institution for creationist science(an incredibly discredited organisation) publishing most...
hell..one of them published a book about the feasibility of Noah's ark.../facepalm
that alone should be enough to show anyone with more than two braincells that these people are morons.
ourorboros2 2 days ago
@ourorboros2 Thank you for the answer, you probably also think Answers in Genesis is wasting their time as well. ;) Nice chat, peace.
Oh, and someone please explain to Cenamark2 that I'm ignoring him, I don't think he got the message. :/
TheBosstrain 2 days ago
@TheBosstrain
ofcourse they're wasting their time... you do realise its only america that is still in debate on this right?
hell in england we dont even teach creation in our religious education classes let alone as some sort of science...even the bloody arch-bishop of canterbury agrees that creationism has no place in schools, let alone science classrooms...
honestly, the rest of the world has moved on, decades ago, why do americans feel this need to stay in the stone ages...?
ourorboros2 2 days ago
@ourorboros2 Oh, don't worry, the infection has spread widely over here. Except for private schools that teach certain religions (not all private schools mind you), the Torah has been practically stamped out. We're raising a generations of mindless atheists :facepalm:, and the school shootings continue to be a serious problem, some atheist kid just recently got shot down for pointing a fake gun at an officer in a school, and that used to never happen before. :(
TheBosstrain 2 days ago
@TheBosstrain Genesis?? Oh I love love Phil Collins and Peter Gabriel :D
andystruth 1 day ago
@andystruth SFSS...
TheBosstrain 1 day ago
@TheBosstrain WHOOP WHOOP :D
andystruth 1 day ago
@ourorboros2 LMAO.. I so have to find the one you mention that talks about the Ark being feasable..LOL I miss good bedtime stories :D
andystruth 1 day ago
@andystruth
it was from John Woodmorappe, called: Noah's Ark: A Feasibility Study
was hoping to pick it up myself for a laugh but i've still got some Terry Pratchet books to go through, they're allot more feasible anyway.
ourorboros2 1 day ago
@ourorboros2 Thanks for the tip.. I will look into those :) So, if the ark was feasable, Was the parting of the red see as well?
andystruth 1 day ago
@andystruth
anything is possible with magic! oh wait, wait...sorry, judeo christian creationist science, gota use the right lingo.
ourorboros2 1 day ago
@ourorboros2 Judo, Christine and Cretons? Makes as much sense as the rest of their BS.
andystruth 1 day ago
@TheBosstrain The theists merely believes himself to have the answers, but all in all is lying to himself. At least the atheist can honestly say "I don't know."
Cenamark2 2 days ago
I can't believe I actually admired Palin.
herpderpmonkey 5 days ago
wow this page is one sided if you write one thing about your religion, Jewish, Christian, or Muslim the comment is instantly flagged for spam.
IcareForChrist 5 days ago
@IcareForChrist Maybe you should populate your page with something. People who see a blank youtube user page with no videos, very little activity and created very recently are used to seeing that sort of behaviour from trolls.
Also you get flagged if you say something stupid - not necessarily religious. If you say something that has been refuted millions of times, answered by thousands of people, people will think you're just provoking them.
Abengoshis 5 days ago
@IcareForChrist Maybe if you weren't so intellectually dishonest when trying to engage in a rational discussion with people, you wouldn't get flagged.
herpderpmonkey 5 days ago
@herpderpmonkey you try saying that on a Christian one sided page
IcareForChrist 5 days ago
Wasn't Charles Darwin Jewish?
godhatesyourtears 5 days ago
i had sex with sarah palin once.
McTrollinftw 6 days ago
@McTrollinftw Did you recover from the trauma?
Brunnhilde1000 6 days ago
For people wanting to reply to "IcareForChrist". I just had a look at his profile. He joined yesterday. He's probably a troll who goes by different names in order to constantly harass people without being recognised.
I probably should have checked his profile before I replied to him.
Do not feed the trolls.
Abengoshis 6 days ago
@Abengoshis actually i this is my first profile and i made it yesterday
IcareForChrist 5 days ago
Well holly shit... Something that she didn't say that WASN'T completely fucking retarded. Of course she's mother fucking Einstein in comparison to Perry and Bachman.
BeRad117 6 days ago
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ENTERRAPTURE20 6 days ago
Evolution is true! I am currently part of the new breed of people being formed under the canine Kiss Rockstar alliance. I am half man, half poodle. Don't ask how I came to be...
dss103 6 days ago
Whoa. Sarah Palin said something rational, reasonable, and informed.
gregakinman 6 days ago 2
Its funny how 2 years ago, Palin was considered the dumbest person in politics. Now, here is the kicker, I would pick this bitch over ANY of the current idiots running for presidency. Oh, and I have no problem agreeing with what she said here, she has the right to her belief in God, and I am also glad that she sees that belief does not belong in a science class.
Go Palin? Fuck. we live in weird times.
ov3rdos311 6 days ago
Well that surprised me
brucechrist 6 days ago
Sarah Palin doesn't seem as right wing as the media make out
huh?!
BlakeInternational 1 week ago
@BlakeInternational The better way of putting it is to say that she is not as unintelligent or ill-informed as the media makes out.
It is a peculiar arrogance of the left to always assume that anyone who questions or challenges their dogmas is 'de facto' less intelligent & educated than themselves - when the reverse is all too often the case.
freeman8128 6 days ago
Yeah, but I guess not everything evolves - I'm lookin at you Sarah!!!
Butterbeer26hp 1 week ago
@Butterbeer26hp Political dinosaurs resist evolution...
FantomasXZ7 1 week ago
Well played, Sarah Palin...
forgetmenautical 1 week ago
Surprisingly lucid insight...
TehDarkPrince 1 week ago 2
so she admits her beliefs are wrong, yet she still believes them?
debenni 1 week ago
@debenni
I think what she means is the whole current Catholic view on creation. That the big bang did exist, evolution is real etc. I think she just believes in a (non interventional) God being the "prime mover" of the universe. Even as an atheist, I can dig it if someone else wants to believe this because it does'nt really interfere with science.
ov3rdos311 6 days ago
This woman is proof that the phrase Natural Selection is wrong - it should be Natural Rejection: Nature rejects things that can not ultimately survive in the environment available. Thankfully, enough Americans found her ignorance and prejudice so offensive that they tossed the bitch out of the room. But it took a while, and she has a power base. Indicating that America has been depriving her children of education for at least one generation - she is proof. Scary is the only way to describe her.
SmileyGarrish 1 week ago
When did god started having a hand? and how do they know god live up there and not down there? do they still think earth is flat? why do you want to teach something that you believe is wrong?
bogati143 1 week ago
This is the only thing that I've ever heard Sarah Palin say that I actually agree with.
Beandude202 1 week ago
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"Imagine the people who believe such things and who are not ashamed to ignore, totally, all the patient findings of thinking minds through all the centuries since the Bible was written. And it is these ignorant people, the most uneducated, the most unimaginative, the most unthinking among us, who would make themselves the guides and leaders of us all; who would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us; who would invade our schools and libraries and homes." -- I. Asimov
mildjohn 1 week ago
What?.....Huh?....>WWWHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!?????
IS SHE KIDDING!?......she must be. Someone like Sarah Palin couldn't have possibly come to that conclusion. She must just be saying it for approval points. Maybe she's trying to get on the good sides of people opposite sides of the issue by compromising. Maybe she was just told to say that......but....but what if she really meant all that...?
*HEAD EXPLODES*
Notyu1459 1 week ago
Go Palin! Tell the truth SCIENCE should be taught in science class. Just common sense.
Respect!
redddbaron 1 week ago
@redddbaron science should be taught every where some dumb fucks will get smarter.
schizobipolarjoe 5 days ago
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@schizobipolarjoe of course
redddbaron 5 days ago
I like turtles.
Jonayofsweden 1 week ago
@Jonayofsweden Red is a color. Some dogs bark when they are lying. Pluto is a dog.
mildjohn 1 week ago
credit where credit is due.
shadowmalik009 1 week ago
@shadowmalik009 Her check often bounces.
mildjohn 1 week ago
Good for you Sarah Palin. You're not a complete idiot.
hazardous403 1 week ago
I could have sworn she didn't believe in evolution.
195ashes 1 week ago
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The universe is a thoughtform projected from the mind of God.
karezza6 1 week ago
This is the smartest she's ever sounded.
eatredapples 1 week ago 24
@eatredapples Maybe if she hadn't of said "I've seen the beautiful hand of god"
aDislikeBot 1 week ago
Got it right here but what an embarrassment for the attention she got and still gets in the media. I bet she really thinks dinosaurs and people were on the earth at the same time. Now she has some half ass gig on Fox as an annoying comentator what a joke
Sconezeta 1 week ago
Fucking hell, and ppl voted for her??!! If they did then she's a walking advert against democracy. There should be an IQ test to qualify for voting.
ahallidie 1 week ago
What the fuck was that?
TheTrohl 1 week ago
WOW...THE DIVA DID NOT MESSUP ON THIS????....IS THIS VIDEO FAKE???...
itsreal1971 1 week ago
@itsreal1971 It's probably as edited as a video from North Korea.
jbkgjbkg 1 week ago
This video is disturbing. Sarah Palin saying something positive. Take it off please!!
r2d2rx 1 week ago
@r2d2rx I'm baffled aswell, it's got to be rigged!
Aragashia 1 week ago
Wait... did I just agree with something Sarah Palin said? I'm.... what?
solkatlol 1 week ago 89
@solkatlol believe me, I'm baffled, confused and perplexed as well. I never thought this possible. Myself and Mrs Tea Party agree on something....
Wonders never cease
ChannelUmptyThree 1 week ago
@solkatlol Wow. I know. I am agreeing with her? I think my head just exploded.
may7babylon7fall7 1 week ago
Wow, for once Palin said something that wasn't entirely stupid.
ObliviousBurrito 1 week ago 3
Wow, she said something I actually agree with. You can be religious and still acknowledge that it has no place in a science classroom.
TheBeepb00p 1 week ago
Maybe she's not talking about evolution... maybe she's talking about herself.
Piccolo7126 1 week ago
The look @:26 she gives Palin is "I'm nodding at you, but I think you're a complete fucking moron and you need to be castrated".
inEarthCEO 1 week ago
Wow she isn't that dumb
PizzaBlade17 1 week ago
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Of course it should be taught...
I am christian, I studied in a catholic school and we studied that...
Adam and Eve is just a symbolic thing...
HOW CHRISTIANS DON'T SEE THAT???
At least in America they don't because in other countries, such as Brazil, they do not have a problem with that...
I believe in God I do not have a problem at all in believing in the evolution theories...
Zecamala1234 1 week ago
evolution is everything! Its a fact and it is proven.
MrDanielSultan 2 weeks ago 51
@MrDanielSultan Evolution is a theory....
MilesDavis5858 1 week ago
@MilesDavis5858 So how does this make it any different then lets say the theory of germs or the theory of gravity?
RawSwedishMeatball 1 week ago
@MrDanielSultan how is it proven? because someone said so? fact? how can something come out of nothing? That is one of the law of physics that can't be broken.
orangeboy97 1 week ago
@orangeboy97 Well, your idea of "something" is faulty. "Something" as we see it is merely a positive, and that positive have a negative. Put these 2 together and we have ZERO. So nothing actually came out of nothing. Something didnt come out of nothing, its merely nothing came out of nothing.
RawSwedishMeatball 1 week ago
@RawSwedishMeatball If you believe in evolution, then where did the oringle matter and engery come from that started the big bang?
orangeboy97 1 week ago
@orangeboy97 Evolution has nothing with the origin of the universe to do with. View the universe as positives and negatives. There are positives, which are energy and matter. Then there are negatives, which are anti-matter. Anti-matter is the exact opposite of matter, and there is a equal amount of positives and negatives. Add these together, and you get zero. So, simply zero divided into 2 parts out of nothing. Matter and energy is something because there is a opposite.
RawSwedishMeatball 1 week ago
@RawSwedishMeatball To put it simply, matter and energy didnt came from somewere, it was that nothing divided itself into positives and negatives.
RawSwedishMeatball 1 week ago
@RawSwedishMeatball a positive and a negative is ZERO so how did the earth get here? how can it divide by it'self? if you have a positive and a negative magnet they want to stick together, so what made them come apart. Something has to make them separate just like a magnet.
orangeboy97 1 week ago
@orangeboy97 True, and the prime mover has not been discovered yet, even if it has to have one. Quantom mechanics tells us some things doesnt need a cause, which gives the possibility that the big bang didnt need something to cause it. I dont know how old you are, but by going from the number of 97 id say 14 or 15. I need to know at this point to get a hang of how much you know if we are going to continue the conversation.
RawSwedishMeatball 1 week ago
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@orangeboy97
« If you believe in evolution, then where did the oringle matter and engery come from that started the big bang? »
Ehr... Do you want to discuss biology, or cosmology? Pick one, please. If we start discussing two separate subjects simultaneously, it'll just get confusing.
MrGralgrathor 1 week ago
@MrDanielSultan Scientific theory backed up by evidence,data, etc. Completely different from being a fact or ultimate truth.
Xapple69 1 week ago
@MrDanielSultan Sorry NOTHING is ever proven. You can only believe in what seems to be fact !!
garibaldiamy 1 week ago
@garibaldiamy You are alive. Prove me wrong.
Synsensa 1 week ago
@MrDanielSultan actually its a theory and it hasnt been proven
IcareForChrist 6 days ago
@IcareForChrist I'm not being a smartass, but you need to look-up "theory".................... "not proven" is in the "hypothesis stage", not the theory stage.
Cheers !!!
orangemod 6 days ago
@orangemod actually you need to look up theory if it was a fact it would not be a theory a theory is something that has not yet been proven
IcareForChrist 6 days ago
@IcareForChrist That is wrong. That isn't the scientific definition of fact and theory. A theory is a model which explains how something happens. A fact is an observation, or evidence. A HYPOTHESIS is a proposed theory - one which isn't supported by evidence at that poitn.
A theory (model) is supported by facts (evidence).
Abengoshis 6 days ago 11
@IcareForChrist
you do realise that religion isn't even a theory, its fiction...
there is just as much reason to blindly believe harry potter as there is to believe the bible
therealsan 5 days ago
@therealsan I'm not a religion supporter, but yes, religion is a theory. A theory is a system of ideas that work together to explain something. Regardless of your belief in religion, religion is a theory according to that definition.
0truth0 5 days ago
@0truth0 A theory is supported by repeatable, testable evidence. You're thinking of a hypothesis.
Abengoshis 5 days ago
@IcareForChrist ICFC: I was thinking in terms of the amount of facts/proof/evidence for T.O.E. that it has behind it. Even for a layman, like myself, it is very clear that the T.O.E. is a proven theory. Though it may not yet be considered law, it is generally accepted by an overwhelming amount of scientists from several disciplines as proven theory. That is basically what I was saying....sorry for any confusion on my part.
Cheers, Dave
orangemod 5 days ago
@orangemod Its not a law because a law isn't a model for anything. A law is something that's been repeatedly observed to happen, well, there is a problem with that since some laws we still use are actually wrong in certain cases (like Ohm's law - it doesn't always apply, so we now have Ohmic and Non-Ohmic devices). Anyway - a theory is not "less than" a law.
Abengoshis 5 days ago
@Abengoshis Interesting, thanks for the reply !!! Cheers, Dave
orangemod 2 days ago
@orangemod No problem! :)
Abengoshis 2 days ago
@IcareForChrist evolution is a fact..face palm, you must think the word "theory" actually means: "random stabs in the dark" when it really means: "an explanation of certain phenomena that is well-supported by a large body of facts and often unifies similarly well-supported hypotheses" i.e. atomic theory, gravitational theory, germ theory, cell theory, some-people-are-dumb-motherfuckers-theory, etc. evolution has nothing to do with trying to prove or disprove a good.
schizobipolarjoe 6 days ago
@schizobipolarjoe evoulution is not a fact it has not yet been proven oh and you say carbon dating well that is only possible to go back 50,000 years
IcareForChrist 6 days ago
@IcareForChrist Nothing will ever be proven, Biology often works on a 95% limit, however the theory of evolution is the best model we have for explaining the change in populations over a long time. It is supported by more evidence than any other theories and hypotheses to date. To deny evolution happens is comparable to denying that bacteria adapt to become resistant to certain drugs.
Abengoshis 6 days ago 2
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@Abengoshis " To deny evolution happens is comparable to denying that bacteria adapt to become resistant to certain drugs."
I will go one further for you from the Christian perspective.
Since God created everything, including all the natural laws of the universe, denying evolution is no different than denying Gravity, and is denying God is all powerful.
redddbaron 5 days ago
@IcareForChrist are you really that much of a fucking inbred. evolution has been proven over and over and over again in labs. you're just another dumb fuck that doesn't know anything about biology,science,physics, chemistry, cosmology etc.
schizobipolarjoe 5 days ago
@IcareForChrist
as a geologist i can only conclude from this comment that you probably know nothing about carbon dating apart from that its used by people who are 100 times more educated than you are...
therealsan 5 days ago
@IcareForChrist Please explain to me why we've found fossils over 100 million years old?
EzeCoyote 6 days ago 15
@EzeCoyote the age of the earth has nothing to do with evolution
IcareForChrist 6 days ago
@IcareForChrist I never said it did. I said fossils have to do with evolution. We have found skeletons dating back to thousands of years back, all of them with small changes to them, all of them with the same base DNA code that humans have. And if you don't understand what DNA is, it's the thing that's inside your body and decides who you are - not some silly imaginary figure in the sky.
The DNA goes back ALL the way back to MILLIONS of years back - therefor proving evolution.
EzeCoyote 6 days ago 4
@EzeCoyote How is that contrary to the Holy Bible?
allthesealsareopen 5 days ago
@EzeCoyote This might sound silly, but how would YOU know they're 100 million years old?
dramaticpickles 5 days ago
@dramaticpickles Because there are museums, archives and documentaries where these skeletons are put up for show (and documentation). Also I got the number off, 65 million years is more accurate. And that's just the --sapiens part of the species, not counting the other unevolved forms before that crawling up from the oceans.
EzeCoyote 4 days ago