As anti-cult as I am, as horrible as these stories are, the cure this man wants is much worse than the disease. Having government run wild over individual religious rights is downright terrifying. We do have laws that protect human rights violations in this country; we can't put everything in the hands of a non-objective and inept bureaucracy; we can't allow government to make decisions about what people should and should not believe. I'll take the American way, warts and all.
So what do you suppose Dr. Kent is calling for? Death panels? I think you're over-reacting.
He is saying groups can't hide behind a religious cloak while committing Human Rights abuses. It's not about religious beliefs to say that the RPF is un-American.
If IBM sent workers on a whim to do hard labor, isolated them from family and friends for months and years, read their mail, screened their calls, there would indeed be hell to pay.
Mark, I really can't have this discussion on YouTube. There isn't enough space :) If you'd like, we can continue it privately so I can expound on what I wrote. I am as virulently anti-cult as you are: I had two brothers in one. But mimicking Europe is not an answer, heavy government hand is not a solution.
Although this lecture is interesting, it's also 8 years old. I find it weird that these old school critics are not riding the new wave of publicity and public opinion to bring fresh initiative and pressure on the government in both tax exemption and more importantly child labo(u)r. What's wrong guys to old to surf?
If you look around instead of trying to pass over things just because they are not recent you will find plenty of new and ongoing attacks on people who speak out against the many abuses within scientology. Come look at my page?
Yes. They have harassed him for years. He has been very effective in testifying against them and has written several important scholarly papers on the RPF and other aspects of the group. Google his name.
I have been intreged by all of this, but do you have ANYTHING to post other than from 7 or 8 years ago???????????????? This is YT. We kind of favor things that happen...oh say.. yesterday, not nearly a decade ago. I think you will start to lose interest unless you gives us something newer.
dude, chill. i am not a scientolgist. i keep making similar posts because, no, I haven't been given or seen anything recently. what i did see was xenu and tory getting suspended and unsuspended and that got me looking at all of this, but every date on all the picking and speeches and alike are all from 2000 and 2001. PLEASE, direct me to more recent things. I am trying to learn about all of this. your comment leaves me feeling as if you dudes are just paranoid.
If you would like to see things that are happening today each day for the last 6 months there are 50 - 150 videos posted about scientology.
this video is good for people who would like information about the situation and how it evolved over the last several years. The info in this video is as current today as it was years ago. For example what he is saying about Germany has been going on since this video was recorded.
As an attorney, I have no suspicions. If you want me to agree with you, you have to present the facts to me. While I truly believe that these people mean well, I see nothing that separates Scientologists from any other religion. They are all based on a fiction story. they all have stupid man made rules. they all seek the weak minded to follow their rules. They all want your money. They all "punish" you mentally and many physically if you do not follow the rules...
science is good fpor some reasons , but scientology is not a fucking religion . It's just a modern of way of life .
slimanime 1 year ago
As anti-cult as I am, as horrible as these stories are, the cure this man wants is much worse than the disease. Having government run wild over individual religious rights is downright terrifying. We do have laws that protect human rights violations in this country; we can't put everything in the hands of a non-objective and inept bureaucracy; we can't allow government to make decisions about what people should and should not believe. I'll take the American way, warts and all.
peapodgrrl 2 years ago
So what do you suppose Dr. Kent is calling for? Death panels? I think you're over-reacting.
He is saying groups can't hide behind a religious cloak while committing Human Rights abuses. It's not about religious beliefs to say that the RPF is un-American.
If IBM sent workers on a whim to do hard labor, isolated them from family and friends for months and years, read their mail, screened their calls, there would indeed be hell to pay.
Scientology should not be able to do it, either.
XENUTV 2 years ago 2
Mark, I really can't have this discussion on YouTube. There isn't enough space :) If you'd like, we can continue it privately so I can expound on what I wrote. I am as virulently anti-cult as you are: I had two brothers in one. But mimicking Europe is not an answer, heavy government hand is not a solution.
peapodgrrl 2 years ago
Notice vaLLarrr doesn't venture here....
Obviously too much entheta LOL
Speaker4Truth 2 years ago
this is not the didgeridooplayer steven kent or?
DidgDog 2 years ago
Please ignore all trolls.
People! Educate yourself. Scientology is an evil, ulterior cult.
45564766 3 years ago 8
I have a 6 minute video that basically proves Scientology is a dangerous cult with large proof.
timone5555 3 years ago
Although this lecture is interesting, it's also 8 years old. I find it weird that these old school critics are not riding the new wave of publicity and public opinion to bring fresh initiative and pressure on the government in both tax exemption and more importantly child labo(u)r. What's wrong guys to old to surf?
tapeduser 3 years ago
If you look around instead of trying to pass over things just because they are not recent you will find plenty of new and ongoing attacks on people who speak out against the many abuses within scientology. Come look at my page?
LFraudHubbard 3 years ago
My Chick Corea records just vent to the dumpster.
RETURN TO FOREVER.MY SPANISH HEART and COREA/HANCOCK/JARRETT/TYNER.
I don`t know what to do with Miles Davis I can`t throw those records out.
nekedemus 3 years ago
I think you've made a mistake. Don't blame the music, it transcends the makers ideology.
RealityEngines 3 years ago
My father Xenu is a cool Dad.
azjeff1971 3 years ago
AZJeff,,, is that you?
Xenu 3 years ago
Yes Dad!!!
azjeff1971 3 years ago
Great stuff, been really enjoying these vids.
AMVtheburning 3 years ago 2
The existence of the RPF *alone* should be enough to shut down CoS due to human rights violations.
AnonOutreach 3 years ago 3
wow, this guy has some great idea's! Here Here, government funding for cult monitoring!
soulinite 3 years ago 2
didn't $cientology fairgame this guy on the religious freedom watch site?
Beenizz 3 years ago
Yes. They have harassed him for years. He has been very effective in testifying against them and has written several important scholarly papers on the RPF and other aspects of the group. Google his name.
xenutv1 3 years ago
I have been intreged by all of this, but do you have ANYTHING to post other than from 7 or 8 years ago???????????????? This is YT. We kind of favor things that happen...oh say.. yesterday, not nearly a decade ago. I think you will start to lose interest unless you gives us something newer.
KiheiLawyer 3 years ago
You have been given recent examples of there on going crimes! But still you make the same posts over and over and over again.
WHY?????
Could u be a scientologist, you make the same post after being provided recent evidence of the same type of actions and methods!!!!!
LFraudHubbard 3 years ago 3
dude, chill. i am not a scientolgist. i keep making similar posts because, no, I haven't been given or seen anything recently. what i did see was xenu and tory getting suspended and unsuspended and that got me looking at all of this, but every date on all the picking and speeches and alike are all from 2000 and 2001. PLEASE, direct me to more recent things. I am trying to learn about all of this. your comment leaves me feeling as if you dudes are just paranoid.
KiheiLawyer 3 years ago
Come watch some of the interviews on my page!
LFraudHubbard 3 years ago
Have you watched any of the new videos and looked at the documents?
What do you think about there agreement with the IRS? Or Lisa McPherson, or any of the other "deaths" in scientology?
LFraudHubbard 3 years ago
If you would like to see things that are happening today each day for the last 6 months there are 50 - 150 videos posted about scientology.
this video is good for people who would like information about the situation and how it evolved over the last several years. The info in this video is as current today as it was years ago. For example what he is saying about Germany has been going on since this video was recorded.
MrFyde 3 years ago
You clearly havent looked too hard. You wanna be bottlefed? Its all there.
buprenorphed24 3 years ago
lol, this discussion took place a month ago, i think you protesters just have no concept of time. are you protesting slavery next? LOLOLOLOL
KiheiLawyer 3 years ago
Every cultist who is allowed on Youtube by DM sounds the same. Not suspicious at all at all. lololololol :p
MrDart 2 years ago
As an attorney, I have no suspicions. If you want me to agree with you, you have to present the facts to me. While I truly believe that these people mean well, I see nothing that separates Scientologists from any other religion. They are all based on a fiction story. they all have stupid man made rules. they all seek the weak minded to follow their rules. They all want your money. They all "punish" you mentally and many physically if you do not follow the rules...
KiheiLawyer 2 years ago
in Scientology you have to pay to learn the truth, so what? if it makes these people feel good and happy, what's the problem?
KiheiLawyer 2 years ago
Very informative.
pandaoflove 3 years ago
Great video, hail Xenu!
soulinite 3 years ago 2
GREAT !!
RuthieWeLoveYou 3 years ago 4
Its always nice to hear from Acedemia.
comment, rate, and appreciate People!!
Anonanonanonymous 3 years ago 5