It just proves that people will believe just about anything. There is no proof that the turbine shown was not filmed at an extreme distance with a telescoping lens. We only see its top...not the base. Also, the blade rotation speed is approximately 33% of that used on a regular basis. I know as live 1500 ft from a 484 ft industrial sized one. You only have to count the seconds it takes for one blade to perform one full rotation. High speed is 2.5 to 3.0. The one in this video is 4.5.
We need to make investments in clean energy. We may not love them now, but I believe in 20 years we are going to be wishing there were more turbines around, not less...
@OldGuysStand There are many different ways to generate energy cleanly (i.e. without any residue from fuel). The global branding campaign of the Wind Industry has successfully ensured that 500+ft machines totally dominates all other modes of green energy. Stack up a wind turbine against hydro, solar, geothermal, waste stream gassification, conservation technologies, and others and see which modes have the least impact on people, wildlife, and the environment.
These are so environmentally friendly!! :) Even BATS benefit... the frequencies produced by the turbines pop little blood vessels in their lungs, and then their lungs fill up with blood and they drown!! Yay environment!!!
@lovesthecity3 You have got to be taking the piss?! F***ing retard!! How many wind farms have you been to and seen all the dead bats around? Shut your mouth!!
Well I live four miles from the wind farm at Watchfield, near Swindon. Whenever there is a south westerley breeze, the wind turbines hum and resonate so much that they regularly keep us awake and wake us up. I am generally in favour of them, but there positioning is very important especially near peoples houses.
@diamondgeezerfly Yeah ok obviously after some compensation. 4 miles and they keep you awake? think that's the voices in your head keeping you awake pal.
You must have some quality double glazing hahahaha!
You fucking load of misguided snobby twats..... fuck off to a desert island where you wont be troubled by anything.... Oh shit yeah you will.. You'll be complaing about the noise of the waves lapping onto the beach,,,, Fucking do gooders....
I'm near wind farm the noise I hear is quite soothing. lot of this is snobbery. A load of moaning winge bags who have nothing better 2 do. You want electric? gas, coal, oil running out sustainable energy the way forward. If don't like it... Move the fuck away. Either that or make do without electric cause your source has just run out. Why don't you moaning fuckers find something better to do like digging ya own graves ready 4 when u Kick the bucket then we can all live in peace.
Of course you can't hear anything standing upwind of a turbine in low wind. Now, film the damn thing when you are DOWNWIND and the wind speed is over 10m/s. and then live next to one for 25 years. THAT is what thousands of people have to suffer. Even the turbine manufacturers state the noise created, for example the Enercon E-85 can generate 105db at source, and 40db at around 1km away; and that's based on their figures. Fact.
@thankyaverymuch There's only a single turbine near where I live a 300ft tall, 750 kW tower near the waterfront, which has been there for 8 years. I've approached this tower, on foot and by bike, from just about every angle and direction and under every imaginable wind condition and I've never been able to hear a thing - without trespassing, it's not possible to get closer than about 200 feet.
@thankyaverymuch Are you sure about your facts? Can't find any data on Enercon turbine noise but, anecdotally, not even the gigantic E-126 seems to generate that much noise at such a distance.
Of course you can't hear anything standing upwind of turbine in low wind. Now, film the damn thing when you are DOWNWIND and the wind speed is over 10m/s. and then live next to one for 25 years. THAT is what thousands of people have to suffer. Even the turbine manufacturers state the noise created, for example the Enercon E-85 can generate 105db at source, and 40db at around 1km away; and that's based on their figures. Fact.
@thankyaverymuch Remember that sound pressure is logarithmic and drops off quite quickly - 40db is nothing while 105db is very loud. My laptop fan is louder than 40db
This video is so misleading. The sound waves in question are infrasound. That means sound below 20hz which cannot be recorded by most microphones, or played by your speakers or for that matter heard by the ear. However these turbines do create powerful pressure waves that propagate for long distances downwind. These pressure fluctuations cannot be heard but the body is alternately squeezed by them and there is serious scientific and medical question as to the long term exposure effects.
@wingnutz999 Have you ever lived in a big city? Where's there's always construction, maybe heavy rail passing by, or trucks on the highway? You'd be shocked at how much "infrasound" you'd absorb on a regular basis.
@bannor99 You are talking about random noise. Yes there's lots of infrasound everywhere but it is usually not a constant periodic waveform like it is in the case of a wind turbine. Everything has a natural resonant frequency. Structures are damaged when over driven at resonance. Do some research on the resonances of different organs and parts of the human body and then ask yourself if it could be harmful to have that part being driven 24 hours a day.
@wingnutz999 It wouldn't be 24 hours a day for very many people - infrasound, resonance or whatnot, the intensity is important and that won't be constant; also, don't they ever leave the house?There aren't vibrating turbines in every direction. What about beaches and mountain ranges? There would be constant periodic waveforms from the ocean and from air masses and winds moving over hills and mountains.
@bannor99 You raise a very good point. Google Foen wind (sp?) and see what standing waves do to people who live downwind of mountain ranges when the wind sets up right and creates powerful periodic pressure waves downwind.
@TJDeadkid You must be out of your mind. Nukes are the last thing we need. Wind energy is awesome and so is solar. Since some people claim to have health problems we should look carefully into it and see if the claims are garbage or real. We shouldn't assume either way is all I'm saying because you know what happens when you assume? Studies that have been done are not completely thorough so we need to answer the question once and for all.
@titytit Nuclear power equals nuclear waste and there isn't any good way to deal with that. Not to mention what happens when it all goes wrong. If you think nuclear power is cool I suggest you go live in Fukushima prefecture.....
@wingnutz999 You have no idea what you are talking about. Fukushima was on a major subduction fault! Earthquakes don't just happen out of nowhere! The Japanese damn well knew that was going to happen eventually, their own damn fault. Don't demonize clean energy because of idiots.
@fleminsh If you think nuclear =clean energy then I guess you wouldn't mind them tossing the spent fuel rods under your kids beds? Some idiots even think they can dilute the poison a bit at a time into steel foundries so it will end up in our cars one day and even your kids orthodontics. Yes it's marvelous technology indeed. Its 'cleanliness' will linger for thousands of years. Yup nuclear is real clean energy. Say, why don't you go live beside a reactor.
@wingnutz999 thorium isnt radioactive, can be used hundreds of times with 100% efficiency, getting the same amount of energy each time, and the waste has an extremely short half life.
@wingnutz999 there are plenty of ways to deal with nuclear waste.
1) use it in a fusion reactor
2) use it in a hybrid reactor
3) use the Chernobyl Fungus to absorb the radiation and THEN put it in the ground#
4) Use thorium (which isnt initially radioactive, needs to be primed to be used in a reactor and whose waste has a extremely short half life. no more radiation after a few months, even days).
yea, fumes are dangerous. Thorium isnt radioactive, doesnt have the same problems as Uranium, plutonium or polonium and actually provides more power than them. The Chinese are currently constructing several dozen new thorium fission reactors ( thorium is cheap and very common) which shows that there is a definite advantage.
@titytit Thorium isn't radioactive? Why are thoriated tungsten welding electrodes shipped with a radioactivity label then. Why does the safety documentation say not to carry them in your pocket? Why are there health risks to using colman lanterns with their thorium laced mantles? You must be misinformed or ignorant or have a vested interest in the nuclear industry to be saying what you are. Do some research! Anyways this has nothing to do with wind turbine noise. This is my final answer.
@wingnutz999 yes, there is SOME radioactivity, or else it couldnt be used at ll in fission reactors, but compared to the other three fuels, the amount of radiation is tiny. In fact, you'd have to be exposed to thorium for months before any noticeable signs showed.
@bannor99 Hey Mr. B. Its been a while. Are you still trying to convince people that hundreds of people who can't live in the middle of IWT plants are all NIMBY, lying, psychosomatics? The discussion about whether there is health impacts (direct or indirect) is over. Read the research from the April 11-14, 2011 WTN2011 Conference in Rome (ISBN 978-88-88942-33-9). Plus the recent ERM for Chatham-Kent transcripts will provide clear evidence that there is no longer any argument about this.
@NorthernWes Hiya Wes, how are things?I'll give these a good read once I have the time. I don't doubt that some are affected - you'll always have a small number that suffers from something that barely affects others.
But shouldn't the places with big and long-established wind farms be overflowing with complaints? And, some of the reports I've read about "wind turbine syndrome" read rather like a form of mental illness.
And why are groups like WCO dead-set against turbines on the Great Lakes?
@bannor99 Keeping in mind that the only jurisdiction that I monitor is Ontario, I can only speak anecdotally about anywhere else. I believe the "moratorium" on onshore wind turbines in Denmark is still in place - as a recall the CEO of Dong Industries said that they were "getting too many complaints" from nearby residents.
But i do know that the long-established wind farms in Ontario generate lots of complaints. You can easily find blogs and reports of those in Shelburne, Chatham, Rigby.
WCO initially took the 'offshore' position b/c one of the biggest of the proposed lake projects was approximately 1 km from Point Pelee. Later, once it was understood that there was NO freshwater installations anywhere in the world except for the single-turbine trial in Sweden, they took the position that Ontario shouldn't be the site of such a large scale experiment. Then, of course, the Libs cancelled them all b/c they didn't want to lose any urban votes.
I just met with a non-participating farming family that is now surrounded by IWTs. Four people. The conditions vary depending on direction/wind speed/barometer. They are keeping very careful track of every variable that they can think of. Medical doctors have cleared them of any "infectious" agents, ear conditions, shared neurological condition etc. The four people experience varying degree of impacts including: migraines, vomiting, vertigo (one member was susceptible to sea sickness prior)
Symptoms were non-existent prior to IWT operation. Symptoms disappear when family members are not in their home. Symptoms reappear when they return to their home. Number of times MOH officials have interviewed them - zero. Response from Wind Company to their reports - we're within regulatory limits on DBA noise. They asked her what she suggested they do about it. She suggested they movethe family to a similar farm where there would not be IWTs. They declined. Mental illness?? Not likely.
Even the Wind Industry says that there are "some indirect effects". If you want a real convincing discussion have a one-on-one talk with the Michaud family in Chatham. There are hundreds like her and there will be more.
@bannor99 Setbacks in other countries are starting to stretch out BTW. One of the Australian states just set their setback to 10km. Holland stopping installation of IWTs b/c they are just too expensive. And you know what just happening to the Liberal politicians who were running in rural ridings with proposed IWT projects in the last Ontario election. The concerns are valid, they have merit, and the concerns can't be ignored much longer.
@NorthernWes Wes, you've probably forgotten some of our earlier discussions. I was in support of a 2 km setback. I'm not sure if you and I also spoke about turbines on the Great Lakes but I was willing to support a moratorium on land-based turbines if development on the lakes could proceed.
And the expense of turbines is a separate issue from either their effects or efficiency. The Dutch can still rely on that giant gas field of theirs but other countries will have to go renewable or go bust.
@bannor99 There are now peer-reviewed studies studying the degree of "annoyance" experienced by residents from IWTs compared to airports, road noise, urban noise etc. And several scientists are observing that for some reason, multi-node IWT exposure generates significantly more "annoyance" than other sources. And, of course, prolonged "annoyance" leads to health issues in a lot of people. Industrial vibro-acoustic symptoms are well understood in industrial settings. IWTS in the open aren't.
A proponent recently told a potential land lessor - "we (BigWind) don't know what they want". Here's a list: 2km setback variable only with signed agreements of all residents; Community planning authority over projects. Replacement of useless DBA based noise regulations with enforceable regs. A standard property value protection program within 5kms. 10km exclusions around airports and existing private landing strips. Open/transparent published complaint/resolution system.
@bannor99 You and I have always disagreed on whether Ontario even needs any IWTs in its electrical generation portfolio which is a different topic than the impacts of local siting practices. I believe that we don't need ANY IWTs and that any taxpayer funded subsidies paid to IWT Companies would generate more jobs, and much stronger benefits to Ontario in other energy techs. P.S. Thank VideoMark - this video has turned out to be one of the best discussion boards around!
Don't ya know it's the freaded "infrasound" that gets ya..LOL Infrasound causes all kinds of illnesses..and it kills puppies and earth worms ..lol..these anti wind turbine nuts are fricken nuts..you cant reason with them..they are brain washed idiots
Let's face it, you lie about the noise, the flicker, the birds, the unreliability, the subsidy, the cost of adapting the grid, and after all of that we will still need a backup supply.
Bird choppers are loud too. All the folks did here is turn the volume waaaaay down. No plant, animal or fish could live around one of these things without committing suicide.
Got to love twisted people that need something to bitch and moan about. First it's the loud noise. When proven how quiet they are, it's the "unheard" noise haha! Shadows being cast that cause psychological issues. Amazing how the sun stays in perfect alignment with it causing a flickering shadow on a house all day long (a half mile away).
Lastly it's "won't someone please think of the birds!" Win/Win situation, less bird crap to clean off my cars!
Last try. Your 30 IWT plant (not a farm) may power the town about 1% of the time but the rest of the time it will power less than the entire town. And a signficant amount of the time it will power 0% of the town. So, until someone invents economical, industrial scale energy storage, the town will need conventional generation or other more predictable renewables. Conventional generation doesn't turn on/off instantly but Wind does. Thats the problem.
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@Texmurphy51 Cats in the US account for 270million bird deaths a YEAR. there are less than 100,000 wind turbines in the united states. that would equate to 2700 bird deaths a year per wind turbine.. thats just over 7-8 birds a day per wind turbine.. how about you go camp out near some wind turbines sometime, and watch days go by with no bird deaths. bird deaths are rarer than you think from turbines.. A study was done showing 7000 turbines produced 178 deaths total in a 2 year study..
@brandoncotten sez "Cats in the US account for 270million bird deaths"
These are common birds the wind turbines kill high flying birds, raptors, like eagles an hawks.
Now in order to replace our electric grid in the US it require over 3.5 MILLION of the 1.5MW GE wind turbines.
How many birds do you think it will kill then.
Thats just our electric grid with no storage, the number would be higher if we convert our fuel cars to electric cars. Econfreaks didnt think this through as usual.
@brandoncotten Averages such as 7-8 birds a day per turbine are meaningless. Three years ago, AWEA's talking point on bird deaths was "less than 1 bird per year per turbine". If you put 1000 turbines in the middle of Death Valley, there won't be a lot of bird deaths. If you put the same thousand turbines in the middle of the Florida Everglades you're going to kill 10's of thousands of birds. The issue with IWTs and Birds is one of location. .....2
@brandoncotten Forgot something. Location and species. Altamont Pass IWTs will kill golden eagles. And there aren't lots of those. Cats might make a good lunch for a golden eagle but they aren't a hazard to any raptor in the air. So if the cumulative impact of another 10-20,000 IWTs kills off a few species because of their proximity to those species at risk, is that an acceptable loss? Why can't the Wind companies put their machines away from these habitats?
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@NANOFORGE Depending on location. They produce near rated capacity about 1% of the time. Their average generation in the very best locations is about 30% and in most locations between 15%-25% but that doesn't give you a good understanding of the time factor. Over the day, they will produce zero for a couple of hours, 5% for a few more, 10% for a few more, 15% for some, and more than 30% for very few hours... depending on location and season.
@NorthernWes We have a farm of 20-30 these on the hills just outside of town, at full capacity they can apparanly power the entire town. It just goes to show that these are just as good if not superior to conventional fossil fuel power planets if the conditions are right. I think the future lies with Nuclear or Geothermal power though.
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these things make people sick w/ low frequency noise. It messes up our bodies and it is a bad thing. I am all for alternative energy, however, we need to put people and their needs first. There is alot of money to be made by the companies that put wind farms up on others' property and they get paid good money to not complain about these monstrous things, even though they are not as awesome and good for the environment as they'd like us to think. Stop hating everyone, and learn the truth!
@JohnFaaashanu ...not so wind farms which can make noise at all hours, also because of the lowere level hum of windfarms the noise can travel further.. you think someone with as many degrees as you've claimed would have a better understanding of these things ... do the comparison... you'd be surprised I think
@JohnFaaashanu The low level hum generated by some wind farms can be an entirely different thing to deal with when compared to vehicle noise.. sometimes the hum can be more apparent in structures than out side... also wind can blow 24 /7 any time of day or night. I lived next to a motorway and although the traffic made considerble noice during the day, there was generally more noise going on during the day anyway so it all blend, But at night the traffic flow eased off quite a bit, not so wind
Even if they were noisy, at least they don't spew massive amounts of nuclear waste or carbon monoxide. And when one falls over you don't have to evacuate the country for fear of growing a second head!
I heard how noisy they were so when on holiday in the USA we stopped at a rest area directly beneath a wind turbine within square miles of many more. We couldn't hear a thing. And we were directly under it. The interstate highway farther away from us than the tower was quite loud. Thank you for posting this video. I think people who complain about this noise would also complain that solar panels make a clicking noise all the time.
Interesting. How far back would you have to be to get the whole wind turbine blade in frame like this? Bet you would be alot further then the camera was from the road? That couldn't have been more then 20 feet.
i dont complain about my neighbors air conditioner noise and these huge bastards are no more noisy than that so i say they cant be discriminated against because of a noise issue. besides that they are located only in windy noisy environments any way. the noise of the wind against my ear was greater than that of the wind turbine. how ironic is that?
@datzfast Must be an apartment dweller. In the country, you aren't likely to hear air conditioners from next door. They certainly don't generate the same sound that a dozen IWTs generate. There is lots of real science appearing on the characteristics of IWT noise - it just isn't comparable to refridgerators, air conditioners, or city buses - the common comparisons used by Wind proponents.
@NorthernWes most of the country is unsuited to wind power generation. and will never see a wind tower with out going 400 miles. so im sure you have little reason to worry about it,
most of the hater comments must be people who are too set in there way to open up to the new age. if ya don't like it stare at your feet you will never know they are in existence.
Somebody--whoever made this video--is comparing the "noise" of night sounds and geese flying with the real noise of a windmill (& please don't try to get all fancy & call those monstrosities "wind turbines")? Showing one windill vs. the thousands required with conditions just right to actually generate energy? How deceptive. How pathetic. And let's hope for the sake of those geese they don't run into any windmills on their travels. Windmills. How ridiculously pathetic.
FYI they are wind turbines because they generate electricity. Windmill is general to transferring wind energy to rotational energy. And so long as there is wind to turn them they are generating energy if you wanna call that "just right conditions".
@thorrider60 Whatever. And isn't that the point--windmills need wind to move those disgusting, gi-normous blades in order to generate energy--& when the wind ain't blowin'? Why, we'll just turn on those diesel-fueled motors & make 'em turn. How's that for a genius idea?
I live in a world where the fact of our electric universe is blowing away Einstein's wrong & outmoded theory about a gravitational one--& I've got people arguing for windmills. Un-freaking-believable.
@Terminator199519 OK. We're all waiting...I'm an idiot...because..? At least some of the others here who favor wind mills have had the courtesy of responding with a statement in support of their position. I may disagree--& I do--vehemently, but calling me an idiot & stating I speak of things beyond my comprehension? Exactly what would that be? Diesel motors, dead birds, blighted landscapes, noice/humming, huge blades, the use of hydrocarbon-based fuel to build & transport the wind mills?
@restoresoundmoney would you consider what the drawbacks to all other types of energy production! Think of the the devastation that the others cause, and the "blighted landscapes" and "noise" that these windmills are associated with seem pretty good to me. I can think of only one kind of energy that is better for our planet. As for building and transporting, are you telling me that it is better to transport coal and lithium, or get rid of nuclear waste, than to build some windmills?
@Terminator199519 There is new and good peer-reviewed science finally addressing the "anecdotal" evidence of people moving out of their homes because they can't tolerate the 24x7 mechanical presence of IWTs. There is strong statistical evidence now that most of the time, there is a significant drop in property valuation once IWTs are built near residences. There is irrefutable evidence that IWTs cumulatively affect bird/bat wildlife and in fact, AWEA is contributing to research re: bat kills.
@NorthernWes I never said that there weren't drawbacks to wind turbines; there is no power around today without drawbacks. That said, what would you rather live beside wind turbines, which I can assure you are much quieter than the droves of migratory birds that travel past my home every year, or a polluting coal plant.
@Terminator199519 Ah yes... the old "Coal or Wind" choice. I choose neither Coal nor Wind. In my region (pop. 7.5M) we have, 4 remaining coal plants running at about 50% of capacity (although it varies because they use the Coal Plants now for demand peaks b/c Wind isn't reliable). We aren't building any more b/c they will be replaced with new Gas plants. If we didn't build any IWTs and ran the Gas Plants as needed, we're fine for years to come. Migratory birds don't fly at night. IWTs do.
@NorthernWes Where do you get your sources? Coal company?
Ok, ok - so: glad you don't want coal. Well, if you exclude wind for electricity, that leaves just solar (and a few exotic sources of portable fuels, but, ultimately, the energy MUST come from the sun, unless you've got a volcano in your backyard for geothermal energy generation, and not just heat transfer)
Gas still contributes to global warming, which will kill more crops, people, birds, whatever than wind and nuclear combined.
@mphello As I said in my jurisdiction, we have plentiful hydro, adequate nuclear and we're real close to the world's largest resevoir of hydroelectric power. Add in gas plants for leveling and we're effectively near-zero emission - without 10,000 IWTs. I think people should be subsidized for demand reduction - i.e. bonus credits for staying under specific consumption credits, credits for home energy tech, newer building codes with much better energy conservation etc.
Thank you. There are impacts from IWTs. If you put them close to a lot of birds they kill a lot of birds. If you put them close to people, it appears between 10-20% experience sleep disruption and worse. If you put them where there are species at risk - you kill the species at risk. if you put them near people's residences, they lose anywhere from 5-40% of their property value. Read my next post to see the standard AWEA/CanWEA responses.
Birds: "Wind turbines kill only 40,000 birds a year in North America. Cats, cars and building kill millions."
Bats: "There are no observed bats at the project site"
Human Health Impacts: "There are no peer-reviewed studies which show direct causal relationship between Wind Turbines and negative human health impacts".
Property Value Loss: "Research conducted on behalf of our industry proves that there is at worst, no loss of property value in the project areas"
@Terminator199519 IWTs are bigger now. There are more of them. When wind co's introduce 100s of 500ft machines into rural areas there is an impact. No one is asking rural residents if they would prefer a coal-fired plant BTW. Those of us who chose to live rurally chose NOT to live beside machines and power plants. Now without recourse, without appeals, with extraordinarily divisive sales techniques by the Wind Co's, we're finding ourselves surrounded by NOISY, 24x7 500ft machines.
@Terminator199519 In my territory, we don't even need IWTs nearly 80% of our power supply comes from hydro and nuclear - emission free. Our few remaining coal plants could relatively cheaply be replaced by gas plants and we're close to Quebec - the worlds largest supplier of emission free hydro power. Our supply capacity is more than 20% greater than our PEAK demand in the summer so we don't even NEED the nearly 10,000 IWTs that are the occasionally mentioned goal of the Wind Industry.
@NorthernWes I am happy for you my friend, you are lucky that you live in an area without the concerns for pollution that many other areas do. Many places rely on less environmentally friendly means for power, and wind or solar power could help a lot.
@Terminator199519 I'll all in favour of any demand reducing tech that is installed at the consumer level ... including small home windmills. Big Wind has taken over the Green Energy movement. In my area, IWTs are totally dominating solar spending and there is effectively no money or R&D being spent on geothermal, biomass, nextgen Nuclear, etc. Of all of the renewables/zero emission power generating tech, BigWind is the most invasive, the most mechanical, and the biggest footprint on the land
Better vehicle emission controls have dramatically improved air quality in Canadian cities over the past 30 years. There is little left that we can do to further improve air quality other than replacing combustion engines with electric (20+ years away?). We have no effective energy storage tech - an investment that we could easily make that would provide far more and better jobs than the McJobs of the Wind Industry and until we do, intermittment supply (Wind) contributes zero to GHG reduction.
A couple of the politicians have already joined the Wind Companies. Foreign companies are getting rich on my tax money. The jobs that are getting created are McJobs in the new Retail/Support operations from these multi-nationals and the good old gas suppliers are crowing (there was even a TV ad about it before they pulled it) because every IWT built adds to the requirement to build new 'backup' gas plants that provide the power for the 60-70% of the time that the IWTs don't provide it.
@Terminator199519 So there are lots of real smart guys posting numbers and papers about the cost of wind vs nuclear. There's so much analysis out there that I can't keep track of it anymore. But I can tell you a fact - the environmental footprint (turf) of thousands of IWTs is far, far greater than one or two nuclear plants. And what you call "waste" is fuel that we can use once we build modern (and safer) reactors. Thorium or even the uranium in seawater will be a lot easier on the environmnt
@NorthernWes it is good that you believe that, however making the plant and harvesting the resources can put alot of strain on the environment. Also, think of Chernobyl, and more recently, the Fukushima reactor and their impact on the environment. Those nuclear accidents caused far more damage than any turbines ever could.
@Terminator199519 I don't think you want to mention Chernobyl. Please research how that intentional event was made to happen. I've tried to come up with an equivalent BigWInd analogy to Chernobyl. If some Wind Company decided to do an experiment on safety and they put up say, 300-400 500ft IWTs close together, loosened the ground mounts, moved several thousand people into the area underneath the IWTs, and waited for a 100mph wind to happen in order to determine is IWTs were "safe"??
You do realize that no one in the Chernobyl area was even given Iodine pills?
As to Fukushima. Compare the damage and impacts at the plant to the area 20miles north. Fukushima (zero deaths, 2 workers drowned), 2 workers with minor exposure. No detectable radiological exposure in any residents. Write-off of the plant. Environmental damage still to be determined but so far seems limited to about 30kms - not a dead zone btw. Some contamination of the ocean which is apparently dissipating.
Part 2: The Tsunami - 20 miles north. Over 20,000 dead, fewer injuries. Between $200B-$300B of property damage. Effective elimination of economic activity for a minimum of 6 months. Widespread contamination of water supply. My beef with the Greenpeace types (I used to be a big contributor) is that the marketing of Fukushima Fear drives attention away from the much more serious impacts and misery up the coast. What should we really be afraid of? Nuclear plant failures or tsunami/earthquakes?
@restoresoundmoney Modern wind turbines produce very little noise. The turbine blades produce a whooshing sound as they encounter turbulence in the air, but this noise tends to be masked by the background noise of the blowing wind. An operating modern wind farm at a distance of 750 feet to 1000 feet is no more noisy than a kitchen refrigerator.
@restoresoundmoney For example, in 2006, a Texas jury denied a noise pollution suit against FPL Energy, after the company demonstrated that noise readings were not excessive. The highest reading was 44 decibels, which was characterized as about the same level as a 10 mile/hour (16 km/hr) wind.
@9914tricky Sounds like (if you'll pardon the pun) that that TX jury doesn't understand the effects of ultrasonic & infrasonic sounds. Sound, as I'm sure you know, is a vibration--whether the human ear detects that vibration as a sound is irrelevant to the fact of its existence--& the impact of that vibration on the human nervous system. Any testimony about unending ultrasound as made by windmills on the human nervous system? I doubt it. When you're engaged in a fraud, why bother with facts.
Noise level alone is far from the whole story. Comparing the level of wind turbine noise with that of sounds in the nature without examining their psychological effects is irresponsible and misleading. If you've ever got irritated by a small 60Hz humming in a movie theater you know what I mean. Constant and steady man-made noises however low level it is as long as human hearing can pick up, is offensive and annoying. it has little to do with how weaker its level than that of any sound in nature.
The "quiet" Fenner wind farm has produced many noise complaints, and a turbine fell in 2009. Google this: "I hear the constant hum of the blades"
This video is propaganda. Turbine noise effects depend on specific topography and atmospheric conditions, including time of day.
Comparisons to normal city noises are very misleading. Turbines are placed in rural settings that lack the background masking noise of urban areas. Would this videographer volunteer to swap homes with known noise victims?
You'd need some good recording equipment to record the low frequency noise, most of the noise is bass. I'd hate to live near these things since the bass can easily travel over a km. Only found one video on youtube that actually sounds close to the real thing. Try searching on "Wind Turbine noise at 1600 feet"
@songofyesterday, "What Wind Turbines Sound Like" is another good demo on YouTube. Being downwind from the turbines matters a lot. You'll notice that most propaganda videos are recorded upwind, and the volume is probably dialed down.
It sickens me to see turbine pushers calling themselves environmentalists when they deliberately mislead about the environmental effects of these towers. And it goes well beyond just noise, of course.
@Antithropocentric OMG! THE WIND! MAKE IT STOP! :) A wind farm at 350 meters away produces 35-45db which is about the volume of a refrigerator hum in the same room. And what environmental effects are you talking about???
I sat in the passenger seat as my family drove past a wind turbine and it was spinnng fast opened my window and stuck my head out, it was really close I could stick out my hand and touch it but I wouldnt as we where moving. I listened and heard only the wind. People really need to stop complaining about wind turbines being nosiy. They make no noise. They also need to stop complaining about them being an eyesore. They aren't :D u can probably get ones that come in different shapes.
@MajorShepard, you are calling thousands of people liars, you know. Driving by in a car is a ludicrous way to test for noise, since it's creating its own white noise as it moves. You have to live near one and spend many nights to understand the subtle effects. Until you do so, stop lying.
@Antithropocentric how the hell am I lying? I just told you what happened is all. And not many turbines are placed next to houses they are mostly placed in open fields and in the sea. And I said not "many", I do not mean "None".
I'm all for a cleaner way to make power, but i'm curious how a lot of reports don't show the frequency of the possible noise the turbines can make. A lot of people don't understand sound pressure levels and how frequency works. Humans generally can't hear anything under 20-25 Hz, the turbines may be producing approx 106 db at 2-6Hz, which such a low frequency can travel a long distance. Ever stood near a sub woofer you can't hear but can feel?.
Dear videomarkHD129 - why don't you allow people to post links in their comments? worried they might want to post something that contradicts your message?
Suppose a butterfly flapping its wings, producing about 12.5 W of energy, can unleash a tornado producing approximately 100MW of energy. By this measure, a large wind farm—producing 781.5 MW of energy, or the equivalent of approximately 63 million butterflies—could unleash the equivalent of 63 million tornados, or over 6 quadrillion watts of energy.
the wind turbine is filmed from a distance of like 200m... the rest of the examples filmed at like 20m... gee i wonder why they sounded louder :S and beyond that, the arguments against noise generation from wind turbines takes into account the sound generated at frequencies outside the ears conscious hearing range. they're actually in the range that youtube compression methods exclude to save space. so arguing this on youtube truly an example of retarded arguments over the internet.
@knightmarshall Do you know anyone with houses closer than 200m to a turbine? I doubt they would even be allowed to be built that close. I know of lots of houses well within the 20m range of rail lines and road junctions so that's a moot argument too. Any noise that is outside the ears range is no longer sound as far as people are concerned. It might piss off some dogs and whales, but to humans it's irrelevant.
it was no more noisy than my house air conditioner so the next time someone complains about this noise steal their fucking air conditioner so they have something real to bitch about.
That is a small turbine. It is not a 400 foot 1.5 mega watt turbine like they have in Fond du Lac County, WI. Watch the video called "Wind Turbine noise at 1600 feet".
@establ While I'm not sure of the size of the tower, these turbines are also 1.5 megawatt wind turbines and as such I would guess they are nearly the same
it depends where theyre at, sometimes they take wind speeds at 23mph while bieng near a housing complex and gets really annoying, or at the wind farms in a neighboring county where I live, they barely turn.
It just proves that people will believe just about anything. There is no proof that the turbine shown was not filmed at an extreme distance with a telescoping lens. We only see its top...not the base. Also, the blade rotation speed is approximately 33% of that used on a regular basis. I know as live 1500 ft from a 484 ft industrial sized one. You only have to count the seconds it takes for one blade to perform one full rotation. High speed is 2.5 to 3.0. The one in this video is 4.5.
firstlilwanderer 3 days ago
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DOES NOT NEED TO OCCUPY A WIDER LANDSCAPE since the turbine can be very tall.
MAY BE LOWER-COST since it may use timber and other cheaper things.
ELUDES HURRICANE FORCE since the blades automatically close.
NO FIRE since well-cooled.
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TheServiceWeb 1 week ago
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WORLD RECORD: BIGGEST WIND TURBINE
Visit: windturbinecarriedbywheels.weebly.com
ZERO-NOISE from gears and generators since they are sealed underground.
SAVES THE BIRDS AND BATS since slow-moving.
DOES NOT NEED TO OCCUPY A WIDER LANDSCAPE since the turbine can be very tall.
MAY BE LOWER-COST since it may use timber and other cheaper things.
ELUDES HURRICANE FORCE since the blades automatically close.
NO FIRE since well-cooled.
HELPS THE WIND ENERGY COMPANIES since it is FREE FOR ALL.
TheServiceWeb 2 weeks ago
WORLD RECORD: BIGGEST WIND TURBINE
Visit: windturbinecarriedbywheels.weebly.com
ZERO-NOISE from gears and generators since they're sealed underground.
SAVES THE BIRDS AND BATS since the turbines are slow-moving.
DOES NOT NEED TO OCCUPY A WIDER LANDSCAPE since the turbine can be very tall.
MAY BE LOWER-COST since it can use parts of junked trucks and others.
ELUDES HURRICANE FORCE since the blades automatically close.
HELPS THE WIND ENERGY COMPANIES since it is FREE FOR ALL.
TheServiceWeb 2 weeks ago
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windturbinecarriedbywheels.weebly.com
ZERO-NOISE from the gears and the generator because they are silenced underground (Only the outer parts of the turbine may create sound.).
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TheServiceWeb 2 weeks ago
A daisy.
FPVsean 3 weeks ago
We need to make investments in clean energy. We may not love them now, but I believe in 20 years we are going to be wishing there were more turbines around, not less...
OldGuysStand 1 month ago
@OldGuysStand There are many different ways to generate energy cleanly (i.e. without any residue from fuel). The global branding campaign of the Wind Industry has successfully ensured that 500+ft machines totally dominates all other modes of green energy. Stack up a wind turbine against hydro, solar, geothermal, waste stream gassification, conservation technologies, and others and see which modes have the least impact on people, wildlife, and the environment.
NorthernWes 1 month ago
These are so environmentally friendly!! :) Even BATS benefit... the frequencies produced by the turbines pop little blood vessels in their lungs, and then their lungs fill up with blood and they drown!! Yay environment!!!
lovesthecity3 1 month ago
@lovesthecity3 You have got to be taking the piss?! F***ing retard!! How many wind farms have you been to and seen all the dead bats around? Shut your mouth!!
jontag78 1 week ago
@jontag78 Way to present a valid argument. ANd I have seen the bats myself.
watch?v=KRqu4WiLQfk
lovesthecity3 1 week ago
That wind turbine couldn't even warm up my food.
12OclockLow 1 month ago
@12OclockLow That's because you are a fat bastard and do nothing but eat!!
jontag78 1 week ago
@jontag78 I'm 6' 2" and 155 lbs. (71kg), which is rather light for someone my height. So when I said that was a weak turbine, I meant it ;)
12OclockLow 1 week ago
Well I live four miles from the wind farm at Watchfield, near Swindon. Whenever there is a south westerley breeze, the wind turbines hum and resonate so much that they regularly keep us awake and wake us up. I am generally in favour of them, but there positioning is very important especially near peoples houses.
diamondgeezerfly 2 months ago
@diamondgeezerfly Yeah ok obviously after some compensation. 4 miles and they keep you awake? think that's the voices in your head keeping you awake pal.
You must have some quality double glazing hahahaha!
jontag78 1 week ago
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cutandshoottx 2 months ago
GREAT video.
Geekman333 3 months ago
I really like the the alien mix into this. Look right. Well, wind is powrful & free :-)
RunoRacer 3 months ago
You fucking load of misguided snobby twats..... fuck off to a desert island where you wont be troubled by anything.... Oh shit yeah you will.. You'll be complaing about the noise of the waves lapping onto the beach,,,, Fucking do gooders....
darrenfitch 3 months ago
I'm near wind farm the noise I hear is quite soothing. lot of this is snobbery. A load of moaning winge bags who have nothing better 2 do. You want electric? gas, coal, oil running out sustainable energy the way forward. If don't like it... Move the fuck away. Either that or make do without electric cause your source has just run out. Why don't you moaning fuckers find something better to do like digging ya own graves ready 4 when u Kick the bucket then we can all live in peace.
darrenfitch 3 months ago
Of course you can't hear anything standing upwind of a turbine in low wind. Now, film the damn thing when you are DOWNWIND and the wind speed is over 10m/s. and then live next to one for 25 years. THAT is what thousands of people have to suffer. Even the turbine manufacturers state the noise created, for example the Enercon E-85 can generate 105db at source, and 40db at around 1km away; and that's based on their figures. Fact.
thankyaverymuch 3 months ago
@thankyaverymuch There's only a single turbine near where I live a 300ft tall, 750 kW tower near the waterfront, which has been there for 8 years. I've approached this tower, on foot and by bike, from just about every angle and direction and under every imaginable wind condition and I've never been able to hear a thing - without trespassing, it's not possible to get closer than about 200 feet.
bannor99 3 months ago
@thankyaverymuch Are you sure about your facts? Can't find any data on Enercon turbine noise but, anecdotally, not even the gigantic E-126 seems to generate that much noise at such a distance.
bannor99 3 months ago
Of course you can't hear anything standing upwind of turbine in low wind. Now, film the damn thing when you are DOWNWIND and the wind speed is over 10m/s. and then live next to one for 25 years. THAT is what thousands of people have to suffer. Even the turbine manufacturers state the noise created, for example the Enercon E-85 can generate 105db at source, and 40db at around 1km away; and that's based on their figures. Fact.
thankyaverymuch 3 months ago
@thankyaverymuch Remember that sound pressure is logarithmic and drops off quite quickly - 40db is nothing while 105db is very loud. My laptop fan is louder than 40db
bannor99 2 months ago
misleading
voicubogdan84 3 months ago
I have a big problem with loud motorcycles. There are laws against modifying the exhaust system but they are not being enforced. Pisses me off!
If people would realize how peaceful life could be without unnecessary noise maybe there wouldn't be as much negativity in the world.
circuitprotector 3 months ago
Why don't you move a few hundred meters behind it and film from there? Oh, right... because then your entire argument would fall apart.
GlorifiedApe 4 months ago
This video is so misleading. The sound waves in question are infrasound. That means sound below 20hz which cannot be recorded by most microphones, or played by your speakers or for that matter heard by the ear. However these turbines do create powerful pressure waves that propagate for long distances downwind. These pressure fluctuations cannot be heard but the body is alternately squeezed by them and there is serious scientific and medical question as to the long term exposure effects.
wingnutz999 4 months ago
@wingnutz999 Have you ever lived in a big city? Where's there's always construction, maybe heavy rail passing by, or trucks on the highway? You'd be shocked at how much "infrasound" you'd absorb on a regular basis.
bannor99 3 months ago
@bannor99 You are talking about random noise. Yes there's lots of infrasound everywhere but it is usually not a constant periodic waveform like it is in the case of a wind turbine. Everything has a natural resonant frequency. Structures are damaged when over driven at resonance. Do some research on the resonances of different organs and parts of the human body and then ask yourself if it could be harmful to have that part being driven 24 hours a day.
wingnutz999 3 months ago
@wingnutz999 It wouldn't be 24 hours a day for very many people - infrasound, resonance or whatnot, the intensity is important and that won't be constant; also, don't they ever leave the house?There aren't vibrating turbines in every direction. What about beaches and mountain ranges? There would be constant periodic waveforms from the ocean and from air masses and winds moving over hills and mountains.
bannor99 3 months ago
@bannor99 You raise a very good point. Google Foen wind (sp?) and see what standing waves do to people who live downwind of mountain ranges when the wind sets up right and creates powerful periodic pressure waves downwind.
wingnutz999 3 months ago
@wingnutz999 no problem lets just put a nice clean old nuclear plant there
TJDeadkid 2 months ago
@TJDeadkid You must be out of your mind. Nukes are the last thing we need. Wind energy is awesome and so is solar. Since some people claim to have health problems we should look carefully into it and see if the claims are garbage or real. We shouldn't assume either way is all I'm saying because you know what happens when you assume? Studies that have been done are not completely thorough so we need to answer the question once and for all.
wingnutz999 2 months ago
@wingnutz999 lool i was being sarcastic
TJDeadkid 2 months ago
@wingnutz999 nuclear power does not equal nukes.
titytit 2 months ago
@titytit Nuclear power equals nuclear waste and there isn't any good way to deal with that. Not to mention what happens when it all goes wrong. If you think nuclear power is cool I suggest you go live in Fukushima prefecture.....
wingnutz999 2 months ago
@wingnutz999 You have no idea what you are talking about. Fukushima was on a major subduction fault! Earthquakes don't just happen out of nowhere! The Japanese damn well knew that was going to happen eventually, their own damn fault. Don't demonize clean energy because of idiots.
fleminsh 2 months ago
@fleminsh If you think nuclear =clean energy then I guess you wouldn't mind them tossing the spent fuel rods under your kids beds? Some idiots even think they can dilute the poison a bit at a time into steel foundries so it will end up in our cars one day and even your kids orthodontics. Yes it's marvelous technology indeed. Its 'cleanliness' will linger for thousands of years. Yup nuclear is real clean energy. Say, why don't you go live beside a reactor.
wingnutz999 2 months ago
@wingnutz999 thorium isnt radioactive, can be used hundreds of times with 100% efficiency, getting the same amount of energy each time, and the waste has an extremely short half life.
The radiation would be gone after a few weeks.
titytit 2 months ago
@wingnutz999 there are plenty of ways to deal with nuclear waste.
1) use it in a fusion reactor
2) use it in a hybrid reactor
3) use the Chernobyl Fungus to absorb the radiation and THEN put it in the ground#
4) Use thorium (which isnt initially radioactive, needs to be primed to be used in a reactor and whose waste has a extremely short half life. no more radiation after a few months, even days).
titytit 2 months ago
@titytit If thorium isn't dangerous why are there so many warnings about it on tungsten electrodes for TIG welding???
wingnutz999 2 months ago
@wingnutz999 ever heard of fumes?
yea, fumes are dangerous. Thorium isnt radioactive, doesnt have the same problems as Uranium, plutonium or polonium and actually provides more power than them. The Chinese are currently constructing several dozen new thorium fission reactors ( thorium is cheap and very common) which shows that there is a definite advantage.
If in doubt, do as the chinese do.
titytit 2 months ago
@titytit Thorium isn't radioactive? Why are thoriated tungsten welding electrodes shipped with a radioactivity label then. Why does the safety documentation say not to carry them in your pocket? Why are there health risks to using colman lanterns with their thorium laced mantles? You must be misinformed or ignorant or have a vested interest in the nuclear industry to be saying what you are. Do some research! Anyways this has nothing to do with wind turbine noise. This is my final answer.
wingnutz999 2 months ago
@wingnutz999 from a neutral website:
"thorium requires irradiation and reprocessing before it's advantages can be fully realised".
From the same neutral website:
"Thorium produces 10 to 10,000 times less long-lived radioactive waste with a much shorter half life"
titytit 2 months ago
@wingnutz999 yes, there is SOME radioactivity, or else it couldnt be used at ll in fission reactors, but compared to the other three fuels, the amount of radiation is tiny. In fact, you'd have to be exposed to thorium for months before any noticeable signs showed.
titytit 2 months ago
@titytit Well that's great news then eh? If you have the lifespan of an insect.
wingnutz999 2 months ago
@wingnutz999 still a better choice than wasting time and money building hundreds of these useless eyesores.
titytit 2 months ago
@bannor99 Hey Mr. B. Its been a while. Are you still trying to convince people that hundreds of people who can't live in the middle of IWT plants are all NIMBY, lying, psychosomatics? The discussion about whether there is health impacts (direct or indirect) is over. Read the research from the April 11-14, 2011 WTN2011 Conference in Rome (ISBN 978-88-88942-33-9). Plus the recent ERM for Chatham-Kent transcripts will provide clear evidence that there is no longer any argument about this.
NorthernWes 2 months ago
@NorthernWes Hiya Wes, how are things?I'll give these a good read once I have the time. I don't doubt that some are affected - you'll always have a small number that suffers from something that barely affects others.
But shouldn't the places with big and long-established wind farms be overflowing with complaints? And, some of the reports I've read about "wind turbine syndrome" read rather like a form of mental illness.
And why are groups like WCO dead-set against turbines on the Great Lakes?
bannor99 2 months ago
@bannor99 Keeping in mind that the only jurisdiction that I monitor is Ontario, I can only speak anecdotally about anywhere else. I believe the "moratorium" on onshore wind turbines in Denmark is still in place - as a recall the CEO of Dong Industries said that they were "getting too many complaints" from nearby residents.
But i do know that the long-established wind farms in Ontario generate lots of complaints. You can easily find blogs and reports of those in Shelburne, Chatham, Rigby.
NorthernWes 2 months ago
WCO initially took the 'offshore' position b/c one of the biggest of the proposed lake projects was approximately 1 km from Point Pelee. Later, once it was understood that there was NO freshwater installations anywhere in the world except for the single-turbine trial in Sweden, they took the position that Ontario shouldn't be the site of such a large scale experiment. Then, of course, the Libs cancelled them all b/c they didn't want to lose any urban votes.
NorthernWes 2 months ago
I just met with a non-participating farming family that is now surrounded by IWTs. Four people. The conditions vary depending on direction/wind speed/barometer. They are keeping very careful track of every variable that they can think of. Medical doctors have cleared them of any "infectious" agents, ear conditions, shared neurological condition etc. The four people experience varying degree of impacts including: migraines, vomiting, vertigo (one member was susceptible to sea sickness prior)
NorthernWes 2 months ago
Symptoms were non-existent prior to IWT operation. Symptoms disappear when family members are not in their home. Symptoms reappear when they return to their home. Number of times MOH officials have interviewed them - zero. Response from Wind Company to their reports - we're within regulatory limits on DBA noise. They asked her what she suggested they do about it. She suggested they movethe family to a similar farm where there would not be IWTs. They declined. Mental illness?? Not likely.
NorthernWes 2 months ago
Even the Wind Industry says that there are "some indirect effects". If you want a real convincing discussion have a one-on-one talk with the Michaud family in Chatham. There are hundreds like her and there will be more.
NorthernWes 2 months ago
@bannor99 Setbacks in other countries are starting to stretch out BTW. One of the Australian states just set their setback to 10km. Holland stopping installation of IWTs b/c they are just too expensive. And you know what just happening to the Liberal politicians who were running in rural ridings with proposed IWT projects in the last Ontario election. The concerns are valid, they have merit, and the concerns can't be ignored much longer.
IF we need IWTs, put them away from people!!
NorthernWes 2 months ago
@NorthernWes Wes, you've probably forgotten some of our earlier discussions. I was in support of a 2 km setback. I'm not sure if you and I also spoke about turbines on the Great Lakes but I was willing to support a moratorium on land-based turbines if development on the lakes could proceed.
And the expense of turbines is a separate issue from either their effects or efficiency. The Dutch can still rely on that giant gas field of theirs but other countries will have to go renewable or go bust.
bannor99 2 months ago
@bannor99 There are now peer-reviewed studies studying the degree of "annoyance" experienced by residents from IWTs compared to airports, road noise, urban noise etc. And several scientists are observing that for some reason, multi-node IWT exposure generates significantly more "annoyance" than other sources. And, of course, prolonged "annoyance" leads to health issues in a lot of people. Industrial vibro-acoustic symptoms are well understood in industrial settings. IWTS in the open aren't.
NorthernWes 2 months ago
A proponent recently told a potential land lessor - "we (BigWind) don't know what they want". Here's a list: 2km setback variable only with signed agreements of all residents; Community planning authority over projects. Replacement of useless DBA based noise regulations with enforceable regs. A standard property value protection program within 5kms. 10km exclusions around airports and existing private landing strips. Open/transparent published complaint/resolution system.
NorthernWes 2 months ago
And a respect for existing environmental protection laws including all Species at Risk laws.
NorthernWes 2 months ago
@bannor99 You and I have always disagreed on whether Ontario even needs any IWTs in its electrical generation portfolio which is a different topic than the impacts of local siting practices. I believe that we don't need ANY IWTs and that any taxpayer funded subsidies paid to IWT Companies would generate more jobs, and much stronger benefits to Ontario in other energy techs. P.S. Thank VideoMark - this video has turned out to be one of the best discussion boards around!
NorthernWes 2 months ago
Don't ya know it's the freaded "infrasound" that gets ya..LOL Infrasound causes all kinds of illnesses..and it kills puppies and earth worms ..lol..these anti wind turbine nuts are fricken nuts..you cant reason with them..they are brain washed idiots
gmanw3 4 months ago
Let's face it, you lie about the noise, the flicker, the birds, the unreliability, the subsidy, the cost of adapting the grid, and after all of that we will still need a backup supply.
kbrod666 4 months ago
Nooooo! NOT THE DAISY! PLEASE! Nooooo!
dawoderpfeffer 4 months ago
Bird choppers are loud too. All the folks did here is turn the volume waaaaay down. No plant, animal or fish could live around one of these things without committing suicide.
oldluckydog 4 months ago
OH MY GOD MY EARS ARE BLEEDING!!! TURN IT DOWN!!!
damaged01 4 months ago 15
Got to love twisted people that need something to bitch and moan about. First it's the loud noise. When proven how quiet they are, it's the "unheard" noise haha! Shadows being cast that cause psychological issues. Amazing how the sun stays in perfect alignment with it causing a flickering shadow on a house all day long (a half mile away).
Lastly it's "won't someone please think of the birds!" Win/Win situation, less bird crap to clean off my cars!
19psi 4 months ago
Last try. Your 30 IWT plant (not a farm) may power the town about 1% of the time but the rest of the time it will power less than the entire town. And a signficant amount of the time it will power 0% of the town. So, until someone invents economical, industrial scale energy storage, the town will need conventional generation or other more predictable renewables. Conventional generation doesn't turn on/off instantly but Wind does. Thats the problem.
NorthernWes 4 months ago 4
Sounds relaxing.
Oscy 5 months ago
so are you implying that the people who say these things are noise polution
are liars? i believe them b4 i believe you. you probably suffer from the sin of
greed, like so many. money trumps your fellow man any day of the week.
we all need to cut down on our energy consumption, or we will all pay for our
sins of greed. our predecessors knew what they were talking about, we've just
been played by the new breed of robber-barrons.
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taylor00pink 5 months ago
Isnt it ironic that the Windmill, an EcoFreaks dream, will ultimately be responsible for the extinction of the Bald Eagle & other birds.
California will be first with its mandatory 33 percent of their electricity from renewable sources by 2020.
Texmurphy51 5 months ago
@Texmurphy51 Cats in the US account for 270million bird deaths a YEAR. there are less than 100,000 wind turbines in the united states. that would equate to 2700 bird deaths a year per wind turbine.. thats just over 7-8 birds a day per wind turbine.. how about you go camp out near some wind turbines sometime, and watch days go by with no bird deaths. bird deaths are rarer than you think from turbines.. A study was done showing 7000 turbines produced 178 deaths total in a 2 year study..
brandoncotten 5 months ago
@brandoncotten sez "Cats in the US account for 270million bird deaths"
These are common birds the wind turbines kill high flying birds, raptors, like eagles an hawks.
Now in order to replace our electric grid in the US it require over 3.5 MILLION of the 1.5MW GE wind turbines.
How many birds do you think it will kill then.
Thats just our electric grid with no storage, the number would be higher if we convert our fuel cars to electric cars. Econfreaks didnt think this through as usual.
Texmurphy51 5 months ago
@brandoncotten Averages such as 7-8 birds a day per turbine are meaningless. Three years ago, AWEA's talking point on bird deaths was "less than 1 bird per year per turbine". If you put 1000 turbines in the middle of Death Valley, there won't be a lot of bird deaths. If you put the same thousand turbines in the middle of the Florida Everglades you're going to kill 10's of thousands of birds. The issue with IWTs and Birds is one of location. .....2
NorthernWes 4 months ago
@brandoncotten Forgot something. Location and species. Altamont Pass IWTs will kill golden eagles. And there aren't lots of those. Cats might make a good lunch for a golden eagle but they aren't a hazard to any raptor in the air. So if the cumulative impact of another 10-20,000 IWTs kills off a few species because of their proximity to those species at risk, is that an acceptable loss? Why can't the Wind companies put their machines away from these habitats?
NorthernWes 4 months ago
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Dj7baylum 5 months ago
1.5 Megawatts per turbine, thats means 3 of them would produce the same amount of energy as a kilo of TNT, pretty impressive.
NANOFORGE 5 months ago
@NANOFORGE Depending on location. They produce near rated capacity about 1% of the time. Their average generation in the very best locations is about 30% and in most locations between 15%-25% but that doesn't give you a good understanding of the time factor. Over the day, they will produce zero for a couple of hours, 5% for a few more, 10% for a few more, 15% for some, and more than 30% for very few hours... depending on location and season.
NorthernWes 4 months ago
@NorthernWes We have a farm of 20-30 these on the hills just outside of town, at full capacity they can apparanly power the entire town. It just goes to show that these are just as good if not superior to conventional fossil fuel power planets if the conditions are right. I think the future lies with Nuclear or Geothermal power though.
NANOFORGE 4 months ago
@NANOFORGE Any idea why I keep getting ERROR when I try to post??
NorthernWes 4 months ago
@NorthernWes I dunno probally Youtube is fucking up as usual.
NANOFORGE 4 months ago
What an incredible, salient and well thought out response ("whatever, troll.") Wow!! I'm going to try that at my next corporate presentation..."What'ev, Troll!!
Gimme a "Wah!" as if you haven't already.
Hawaiiansky11 5 months ago
these things make people sick w/ low frequency noise. It messes up our bodies and it is a bad thing. I am all for alternative energy, however, we need to put people and their needs first. There is alot of money to be made by the companies that put wind farms up on others' property and they get paid good money to not complain about these monstrous things, even though they are not as awesome and good for the environment as they'd like us to think. Stop hating everyone, and learn the truth!
phunky98 6 months ago
@JohnFaaashanu ...not so wind farms which can make noise at all hours, also because of the lowere level hum of windfarms the noise can travel further.. you think someone with as many degrees as you've claimed would have a better understanding of these things ... do the comparison... you'd be surprised I think
OtagoMark 6 months ago
@JohnFaaashanu The low level hum generated by some wind farms can be an entirely different thing to deal with when compared to vehicle noise.. sometimes the hum can be more apparent in structures than out side... also wind can blow 24 /7 any time of day or night. I lived next to a motorway and although the traffic made considerble noice during the day, there was generally more noise going on during the day anyway so it all blend, But at night the traffic flow eased off quite a bit, not so wind
OtagoMark 6 months ago
Even if they were noisy, at least they don't spew massive amounts of nuclear waste or carbon monoxide. And when one falls over you don't have to evacuate the country for fear of growing a second head!
skythegeek 6 months ago
@skythegeek Your ignorance is showing.
Hawaiiansky11 6 months ago
@Hawaiiansky11 Whatever troll. Would you rather live in Tokyo or under a windmill?
skythegeek 5 months ago
@skythegeek Tokyo.
NorthernWes 4 months ago
The only people who are against wind energy are angry rednecks that are influenced by oil company owned Republican politicians.
ShiverRiver 6 months ago
I heard how noisy they were so when on holiday in the USA we stopped at a rest area directly beneath a wind turbine within square miles of many more. We couldn't hear a thing. And we were directly under it. The interstate highway farther away from us than the tower was quite loud. Thank you for posting this video. I think people who complain about this noise would also complain that solar panels make a clicking noise all the time.
mrbarth 6 months ago
Interesting. How far back would you have to be to get the whole wind turbine blade in frame like this? Bet you would be alot further then the camera was from the road? That couldn't have been more then 20 feet.
edtrine 6 months ago
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leamyelectricinc1 6 months ago
no consistency in distances, no decibel measurements? This is not scientific or persuasive, its propaganda. And pathetic.
Parsec994a 6 months ago
i dont complain about my neighbors air conditioner noise and these huge bastards are no more noisy than that so i say they cant be discriminated against because of a noise issue. besides that they are located only in windy noisy environments any way. the noise of the wind against my ear was greater than that of the wind turbine. how ironic is that?
datzfast 6 months ago
@datzfast Must be an apartment dweller. In the country, you aren't likely to hear air conditioners from next door. They certainly don't generate the same sound that a dozen IWTs generate. There is lots of real science appearing on the characteristics of IWT noise - it just isn't comparable to refridgerators, air conditioners, or city buses - the common comparisons used by Wind proponents.
NorthernWes 6 months ago
@NorthernWes doesnt matter where you live because you will be living under a wind mill soon. i will see to that
datzfast 6 months ago
@datzfast If Big Wind gets their way, everyone will be living under Wind Turbines and miles and miles of transmission lines.
P.S. You make a pretty nice looking violin. How long does it take to finish something like that?
NorthernWes 6 months ago
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datzfast 6 months ago
@NorthernWes most of the country is unsuited to wind power generation. and will never see a wind tower with out going 400 miles. so im sure you have little reason to worry about it,
datzfast 6 months ago
Damn! That daisy was ear-shattering.
mphello 6 months ago
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How can wind turbines be more noisy than the wind itself?
Answer: they're not!
Wind and car noise disturb me frequently from my house, long before any wind turbines were put in.
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mphello 6 months ago
no wind.... so no noise... dumb
Zhequirinal 6 months ago
most of the hater comments must be people who are too set in there way to open up to the new age. if ya don't like it stare at your feet you will never know they are in existence.
gridarmorfix 7 months ago
Somebody--whoever made this video--is comparing the "noise" of night sounds and geese flying with the real noise of a windmill (& please don't try to get all fancy & call those monstrosities "wind turbines")? Showing one windill vs. the thousands required with conditions just right to actually generate energy? How deceptive. How pathetic. And let's hope for the sake of those geese they don't run into any windmills on their travels. Windmills. How ridiculously pathetic.
restoresoundmoney 7 months ago
@restoresoundmoney
FYI they are wind turbines because they generate electricity. Windmill is general to transferring wind energy to rotational energy. And so long as there is wind to turn them they are generating energy if you wanna call that "just right conditions".
thorrider60 7 months ago
@thorrider60 Whatever. And isn't that the point--windmills need wind to move those disgusting, gi-normous blades in order to generate energy--& when the wind ain't blowin'? Why, we'll just turn on those diesel-fueled motors & make 'em turn. How's that for a genius idea?
I live in a world where the fact of our electric universe is blowing away Einstein's wrong & outmoded theory about a gravitational one--& I've got people arguing for windmills. Un-freaking-believable.
restoresoundmoney 7 months ago
@restoresoundmoney You are an idiot, and you have no idea what you are talking about, so stop posting about things beyond your comprehension
Terminator199519 6 months ago
@Terminator199519 OK. We're all waiting...I'm an idiot...because..? At least some of the others here who favor wind mills have had the courtesy of responding with a statement in support of their position. I may disagree--& I do--vehemently, but calling me an idiot & stating I speak of things beyond my comprehension? Exactly what would that be? Diesel motors, dead birds, blighted landscapes, noice/humming, huge blades, the use of hydrocarbon-based fuel to build & transport the wind mills?
restoresoundmoney 6 months ago
@restoresoundmoney would you consider what the drawbacks to all other types of energy production! Think of the the devastation that the others cause, and the "blighted landscapes" and "noise" that these windmills are associated with seem pretty good to me. I can think of only one kind of energy that is better for our planet. As for building and transporting, are you telling me that it is better to transport coal and lithium, or get rid of nuclear waste, than to build some windmills?
Terminator199519 6 months ago
@Terminator199519 There is new and good peer-reviewed science finally addressing the "anecdotal" evidence of people moving out of their homes because they can't tolerate the 24x7 mechanical presence of IWTs. There is strong statistical evidence now that most of the time, there is a significant drop in property valuation once IWTs are built near residences. There is irrefutable evidence that IWTs cumulatively affect bird/bat wildlife and in fact, AWEA is contributing to research re: bat kills.
NorthernWes 6 months ago
@NorthernWes I never said that there weren't drawbacks to wind turbines; there is no power around today without drawbacks. That said, what would you rather live beside wind turbines, which I can assure you are much quieter than the droves of migratory birds that travel past my home every year, or a polluting coal plant.
Terminator199519 6 months ago
@Terminator199519 Ah yes... the old "Coal or Wind" choice. I choose neither Coal nor Wind. In my region (pop. 7.5M) we have, 4 remaining coal plants running at about 50% of capacity (although it varies because they use the Coal Plants now for demand peaks b/c Wind isn't reliable). We aren't building any more b/c they will be replaced with new Gas plants. If we didn't build any IWTs and ran the Gas Plants as needed, we're fine for years to come. Migratory birds don't fly at night. IWTs do.
NorthernWes 6 months ago
@NorthernWes Where do you get your sources? Coal company?
Ok, ok - so: glad you don't want coal. Well, if you exclude wind for electricity, that leaves just solar (and a few exotic sources of portable fuels, but, ultimately, the energy MUST come from the sun, unless you've got a volcano in your backyard for geothermal energy generation, and not just heat transfer)
Gas still contributes to global warming, which will kill more crops, people, birds, whatever than wind and nuclear combined.
mphello 6 months ago
@mphello As I said in my jurisdiction, we have plentiful hydro, adequate nuclear and we're real close to the world's largest resevoir of hydroelectric power. Add in gas plants for leveling and we're effectively near-zero emission - without 10,000 IWTs. I think people should be subsidized for demand reduction - i.e. bonus credits for staying under specific consumption credits, credits for home energy tech, newer building codes with much better energy conservation etc.
NorthernWes 6 months ago
Thank you. There are impacts from IWTs. If you put them close to a lot of birds they kill a lot of birds. If you put them close to people, it appears between 10-20% experience sleep disruption and worse. If you put them where there are species at risk - you kill the species at risk. if you put them near people's residences, they lose anywhere from 5-40% of their property value. Read my next post to see the standard AWEA/CanWEA responses.
NorthernWes 6 months ago
CanWEA/AWEA responses.
Birds: "Wind turbines kill only 40,000 birds a year in North America. Cats, cars and building kill millions."
Bats: "There are no observed bats at the project site"
Human Health Impacts: "There are no peer-reviewed studies which show direct causal relationship between Wind Turbines and negative human health impacts".
Property Value Loss: "Research conducted on behalf of our industry proves that there is at worst, no loss of property value in the project areas"
NorthernWes 6 months ago
@Terminator199519 IWTs are bigger now. There are more of them. When wind co's introduce 100s of 500ft machines into rural areas there is an impact. No one is asking rural residents if they would prefer a coal-fired plant BTW. Those of us who chose to live rurally chose NOT to live beside machines and power plants. Now without recourse, without appeals, with extraordinarily divisive sales techniques by the Wind Co's, we're finding ourselves surrounded by NOISY, 24x7 500ft machines.
NorthernWes 6 months ago
@Terminator199519 In my territory, we don't even need IWTs nearly 80% of our power supply comes from hydro and nuclear - emission free. Our few remaining coal plants could relatively cheaply be replaced by gas plants and we're close to Quebec - the worlds largest supplier of emission free hydro power. Our supply capacity is more than 20% greater than our PEAK demand in the summer so we don't even NEED the nearly 10,000 IWTs that are the occasionally mentioned goal of the Wind Industry.
NorthernWes 6 months ago
@NorthernWes I am happy for you my friend, you are lucky that you live in an area without the concerns for pollution that many other areas do. Many places rely on less environmentally friendly means for power, and wind or solar power could help a lot.
Terminator199519 6 months ago
@Terminator199519 I'll all in favour of any demand reducing tech that is installed at the consumer level ... including small home windmills. Big Wind has taken over the Green Energy movement. In my area, IWTs are totally dominating solar spending and there is effectively no money or R&D being spent on geothermal, biomass, nextgen Nuclear, etc. Of all of the renewables/zero emission power generating tech, BigWind is the most invasive, the most mechanical, and the biggest footprint on the land
NorthernWes 6 months ago
Better vehicle emission controls have dramatically improved air quality in Canadian cities over the past 30 years. There is little left that we can do to further improve air quality other than replacing combustion engines with electric (20+ years away?). We have no effective energy storage tech - an investment that we could easily make that would provide far more and better jobs than the McJobs of the Wind Industry and until we do, intermittment supply (Wind) contributes zero to GHG reduction.
NorthernWes 6 months ago
A couple of the politicians have already joined the Wind Companies. Foreign companies are getting rich on my tax money. The jobs that are getting created are McJobs in the new Retail/Support operations from these multi-nationals and the good old gas suppliers are crowing (there was even a TV ad about it before they pulled it) because every IWT built adds to the requirement to build new 'backup' gas plants that provide the power for the 60-70% of the time that the IWTs don't provide it.
NorthernWes 6 months ago
@Terminator199519 So there are lots of real smart guys posting numbers and papers about the cost of wind vs nuclear. There's so much analysis out there that I can't keep track of it anymore. But I can tell you a fact - the environmental footprint (turf) of thousands of IWTs is far, far greater than one or two nuclear plants. And what you call "waste" is fuel that we can use once we build modern (and safer) reactors. Thorium or even the uranium in seawater will be a lot easier on the environmnt
NorthernWes 6 months ago
@NorthernWes it is good that you believe that, however making the plant and harvesting the resources can put alot of strain on the environment. Also, think of Chernobyl, and more recently, the Fukushima reactor and their impact on the environment. Those nuclear accidents caused far more damage than any turbines ever could.
Terminator199519 6 months ago
@Terminator199519 I don't think you want to mention Chernobyl. Please research how that intentional event was made to happen. I've tried to come up with an equivalent BigWInd analogy to Chernobyl. If some Wind Company decided to do an experiment on safety and they put up say, 300-400 500ft IWTs close together, loosened the ground mounts, moved several thousand people into the area underneath the IWTs, and waited for a 100mph wind to happen in order to determine is IWTs were "safe"??
NorthernWes 6 months ago
You do realize that no one in the Chernobyl area was even given Iodine pills?
As to Fukushima. Compare the damage and impacts at the plant to the area 20miles north. Fukushima (zero deaths, 2 workers drowned), 2 workers with minor exposure. No detectable radiological exposure in any residents. Write-off of the plant. Environmental damage still to be determined but so far seems limited to about 30kms - not a dead zone btw. Some contamination of the ocean which is apparently dissipating.
NorthernWes 6 months ago
Part 2: The Tsunami - 20 miles north. Over 20,000 dead, fewer injuries. Between $200B-$300B of property damage. Effective elimination of economic activity for a minimum of 6 months. Widespread contamination of water supply. My beef with the Greenpeace types (I used to be a big contributor) is that the marketing of Fukushima Fear drives attention away from the much more serious impacts and misery up the coast. What should we really be afraid of? Nuclear plant failures or tsunami/earthquakes?
NorthernWes 6 months ago
@restoresoundmoney Modern wind turbines produce very little noise. The turbine blades produce a whooshing sound as they encounter turbulence in the air, but this noise tends to be masked by the background noise of the blowing wind. An operating modern wind farm at a distance of 750 feet to 1000 feet is no more noisy than a kitchen refrigerator.
9914tricky 7 months ago
@restoresoundmoney For example, in 2006, a Texas jury denied a noise pollution suit against FPL Energy, after the company demonstrated that noise readings were not excessive. The highest reading was 44 decibels, which was characterized as about the same level as a 10 mile/hour (16 km/hr) wind.
9914tricky 7 months ago
@9914tricky Sounds like (if you'll pardon the pun) that that TX jury doesn't understand the effects of ultrasonic & infrasonic sounds. Sound, as I'm sure you know, is a vibration--whether the human ear detects that vibration as a sound is irrelevant to the fact of its existence--& the impact of that vibration on the human nervous system. Any testimony about unending ultrasound as made by windmills on the human nervous system? I doubt it. When you're engaged in a fraud, why bother with facts.
restoresoundmoney 7 months ago
Noise level alone is far from the whole story. Comparing the level of wind turbine noise with that of sounds in the nature without examining their psychological effects is irresponsible and misleading. If you've ever got irritated by a small 60Hz humming in a movie theater you know what I mean. Constant and steady man-made noises however low level it is as long as human hearing can pick up, is offensive and annoying. it has little to do with how weaker its level than that of any sound in nature.
sylin02 7 months ago
The "quiet" Fenner wind farm has produced many noise complaints, and a turbine fell in 2009. Google this: "I hear the constant hum of the blades"
This video is propaganda. Turbine noise effects depend on specific topography and atmospheric conditions, including time of day.
Comparisons to normal city noises are very misleading. Turbines are placed in rural settings that lack the background masking noise of urban areas. Would this videographer volunteer to swap homes with known noise victims?
Antithropocentric 7 months ago
You'd need some good recording equipment to record the low frequency noise, most of the noise is bass. I'd hate to live near these things since the bass can easily travel over a km. Only found one video on youtube that actually sounds close to the real thing. Try searching on "Wind Turbine noise at 1600 feet"
songofyesterday 8 months ago
@songofyesterday, "What Wind Turbines Sound Like" is another good demo on YouTube. Being downwind from the turbines matters a lot. You'll notice that most propaganda videos are recorded upwind, and the volume is probably dialed down.
It sickens me to see turbine pushers calling themselves environmentalists when they deliberately mislead about the environmental effects of these towers. And it goes well beyond just noise, of course.
Antithropocentric 7 months ago
@Antithropocentric OMG! THE WIND! MAKE IT STOP! :) A wind farm at 350 meters away produces 35-45db which is about the volume of a refrigerator hum in the same room. And what environmental effects are you talking about???
ektrules 7 months ago
I sat in the passenger seat as my family drove past a wind turbine and it was spinnng fast opened my window and stuck my head out, it was really close I could stick out my hand and touch it but I wouldnt as we where moving. I listened and heard only the wind. People really need to stop complaining about wind turbines being nosiy. They make no noise. They also need to stop complaining about them being an eyesore. They aren't :D u can probably get ones that come in different shapes.
MajorShepard 8 months ago
@MajorShepard, you are calling thousands of people liars, you know. Driving by in a car is a ludicrous way to test for noise, since it's creating its own white noise as it moves. You have to live near one and spend many nights to understand the subtle effects. Until you do so, stop lying.
Antithropocentric 7 months ago
@Antithropocentric how the hell am I lying? I just told you what happened is all. And not many turbines are placed next to houses they are mostly placed in open fields and in the sea. And I said not "many", I do not mean "None".
MajorShepard 7 months ago
What is the point of this completely unscientific video?
Cowcharge 8 months ago
A very interesting (total) presentation !
chiparoo222 8 months ago
I'm all for a cleaner way to make power, but i'm curious how a lot of reports don't show the frequency of the possible noise the turbines can make. A lot of people don't understand sound pressure levels and how frequency works. Humans generally can't hear anything under 20-25 Hz, the turbines may be producing approx 106 db at 2-6Hz, which such a low frequency can travel a long distance. Ever stood near a sub woofer you can't hear but can feel?.
Brikkyz 8 months ago
Dear videomarkHD129 - why don't you allow people to post links in their comments? worried they might want to post something that contradicts your message?
dietwaldclaus 8 months ago
for a different perspective on the issue, from somebody who is negatively affected by wind turbines.
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dietwaldclaus 8 months ago
for a different perspective on the issue, from somebody who is negatively affected by wind turbines.
watch?v=iyOImGHyJtQ
dietwaldclaus 8 months ago
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talknuclear 8 months ago
Love it.
Strazzard105 8 months ago
If these are this loud, a solar panel must be deafening!
liOVERLOADil 8 months ago 13
Suppose a butterfly flapping its wings, producing about 12.5 W of energy, can unleash a tornado producing approximately 100MW of energy. By this measure, a large wind farm—producing 781.5 MW of energy, or the equivalent of approximately 63 million butterflies—could unleash the equivalent of 63 million tornados, or over 6 quadrillion watts of energy.
FavoriteBot 8 months ago
the wind turbine is filmed from a distance of like 200m... the rest of the examples filmed at like 20m... gee i wonder why they sounded louder :S and beyond that, the arguments against noise generation from wind turbines takes into account the sound generated at frequencies outside the ears conscious hearing range. they're actually in the range that youtube compression methods exclude to save space. so arguing this on youtube truly an example of retarded arguments over the internet.
knightmarshall 8 months ago
@knightmarshall Do you know anyone with houses closer than 200m to a turbine? I doubt they would even be allowed to be built that close. I know of lots of houses well within the 20m range of rail lines and road junctions so that's a moot argument too. Any noise that is outside the ears range is no longer sound as far as people are concerned. It might piss off some dogs and whales, but to humans it's irrelevant.
fatmikecj 8 months ago
it was no more noisy than my house air conditioner so the next time someone complains about this noise steal their fucking air conditioner so they have something real to bitch about.
datzfast 9 months ago 3
@datzfast Amen!
mphello 6 months ago
The only sounds I ever heard was when they change direction into the wind.
smurfboywv 9 months ago
@smurfboywv if my aunt had a beard she would be my uncle...try turning up the sound....
TheRedpeadar 9 months ago
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smurfboywv 9 months ago
The car says "honk! honk!"
The train says "honk! honk!"
The goose says "honk! honk!"
I'm sure my kids will love this, thanks.
10kzebra 9 months ago
That is a small turbine. It is not a 400 foot 1.5 mega watt turbine like they have in Fond du Lac County, WI. Watch the video called "Wind Turbine noise at 1600 feet".
establ 9 months ago
@establ While I'm not sure of the size of the tower, these turbines are also 1.5 megawatt wind turbines and as such I would guess they are nearly the same
Youarenotrealpirate 9 months ago
@establ Well, except for the apparent noise difference.
Youarenotrealpirate 9 months ago
what was the point of that ??? :L
i had my ear up agents the speker and it BLARED the train horn right in my ear! >:(
NOT FUNNY >:[
mrepicman77 9 months ago
They should put them where no one lives. And higher up in the air.
electrickithara 9 months ago
it depends where theyre at, sometimes they take wind speeds at 23mph while bieng near a housing complex and gets really annoying, or at the wind farms in a neighboring county where I live, they barely turn.
Masounification 10 months ago
If you live in the middle of the woods and they prop up these things in your