go russia go us? i dont know who to believe. we all know america is full of crap and russia is one big douchebag. WE ARE ALL BADGUYS! the only good guys in this world are those who have lost family members in the war. Think about that
just read this "Council of the European Union appointed Ambassador Heidi Tagliavini Head of the Independent International Fact-Finding Mission on the Conflict in Georgia"
@uastirji And exactly what country doesnt perpetrate propaganda? Well all nations do but still doesnt change the fact that GEORGIA started this particular war with south ossentia
Kartveli2 please dont take us for fools.With satellite and internet, we can get all the news arround the world including BBC.
Your troops were indiscriminatly shelling the Ossetian City with Grad rockets which are for carpet bombing and therefore did not care who it killed.Then when they entered the town, they attacked civilian apartment even when there was no military activity there.They attacked cars and transports that were heading north to Russia obviously they were not military.Source BBC.
Georgia did not bring anyone under the internation courts.Sorry dont know where you get your source from but rest of us know.
You military boss was fired for the poor conduct of the war against the Russian army and not for human rights abuse.
he only cases in Hague over the war is the hundreds forwarded by the South Ossetian individuals against Georgia.The Case forwarded by Georgia against Russia was dismissed as you know.
As for the Russian troops that were there before the war,lets me tell you that we all know that they were placed there as per Sochi treaty.The peacekeeping force consisted of also Ossetian and Georgian units.The same Georgian units that killed their fellow peacekeepers when the war started.For that alone,if it happened to our troops or the American,we would have bombed Tibilis.
What more the Peacekeepers had an UN mandate which was renewed even early this year.
Remember the shooting near the Georgian and Polish Presidents motorcade?
The Polish Security detail at that time are claiming the Georgians staged the whole affair.
First they place the bus of Journalists in front of the line of cars which was odd as usually they are behind the convoy.Then when the shooting started Saakashvili was smiling and his bodyguards did not react.
So how can we take seriously anything that crazy guy says?
Brain? Admit what? bunch of lies? What are you saying, everyone in Georgia has no brain but Kitsmarishvili? Fuck you asshole. I bet you have no high school finished. Probably working somewhere MacDOnald. Go educate yourself!
The FACT that a georgian loyal, government official, and sukashvili's confidant admited such things, and the fact that he knows and understands how international political mechnisms work shows A LOT of credibility and it all makes sense. Georgians are so slow, almost like Estonians- its sad.
Even some american officials stated that the georgia started all of this shit. Even rise said that georgia attacked first, but she said it in an upseting way, lol. But thats a start :)
Nope, Georgian soldiers weren't targeting civilians. They were targeting ossetian separatists wo were bunched up in civilian population places and were firing from there. It was a war!
I only follow opposition news. Just getting informative how my enemy side perceive the situation and how much they're lying. So that when a person like "XShevaX" comes and starts talking I will at least have an idea what his talking about. I don't really watch BBC though because of my location, But yes, BBC is more neutral.
The certain war crimes, of course are clearly made by both sides and I have nothing against it. When the war blows up soldiers can't recognize what their doing and thats it.
And yes, Georgian government brought many of the generals in front of international justice as the accusation of inappropriate military operations but it is not as significant as what Russians did with the order of government, Directly!
Also when we started war, we can prove that Tschinvali was surrounded by hundreds of Russian soldiers and mediators. Who clearly were mobilized to attack Georgian side. But we were first! Positionally we won the war and thats how we survived of full occupation.
And this guy, who's talking right here, has not talked this much live, on Rustavi2 for millenniums. Politicians often called him "silent politician" as the nick name. But one beautiful day he started talking rapidly on sharply on Russia's position. Tell me who he really is?
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If you want the essence of corruction look at the British banking system. Fat cats from wall to wall. Biggest rewards are for failure. Banking is legalised theft and they can't lose. When things go tits up the Powers through billions of taxpayers money at them. Nice work if you can get it. Our corruption is more invisible but then we have been practising for hundreds of years. All our arch criminals are in Parliament and the House of Lords.
this is just another ploy to get western arms nearer Russia. Since the west is financially shafted the natural wealth of Russia can make more fat cats. Provocation from George Bush's pal in Georgia, via the CIA, makes the world less safe. How that wanker in Georgia thought he could slaughter innocent people and point the finger at Russia remains a mystery. Next time the murderer is in the USA he should go to Hollywood. He will feel at home with the actors, especially the unemployed ones
at least, he never gave any order to attack and shell sleeping city, to expell people from their land. his only deeds are his words. so, as a colourful background in russian parliament he's ok. about his being saint, you are exaggerating.
bunky, let's not mix chops and flies. we are talking georgian affairs now. and to the names you gave i would add Okruashvilli's, as well. he was hawky hawk in Saka's government, still once they got in the conflict of interests Okruashvilli was taken in jail and expelled from the country later on.
and please don't mix chops and flies. you are not in the position of knowing truth about Putin or Kadyrov and judging. be modest and people will like you.
Georgian-Polish provocation on borders with Independent Republic of South Ossetia...just show to the reasonable people outside the world how desperate, angry and frustrated the Georgian autocratic regime is.
Sakashvili must show to his own people in Georgia how brave he is and how he is ready to take control of new Independent Republics in his hand.
Georgian people must throw this dictator and incompetent polititian from his autocratic throne as soon as posible.
bunk you dumbass, even if 356 people did die, that's still 356 innocent lives. As for the Georgians, they brought it upon themselves. They attacked the provinces where the peacekeepers were stationed. If someone started shooting at you, would you not shoot back?
what I don't get is this. A war is described as a fight with military against military. Georgia on the other side has made it military against civilians. Do you call that war or genocide?
hahahah And many Georgians are still belive Saakashvili. Erosi Kitsmarishvili just don't want swimming in these lies.
2:18 Look at this Grad. All western media showed it like "Russian agresson". Is this not propaganda? You was brainwashed and you just don't want to recognise that.
For a small nation of a little over 100000??? That's 1.5 percent. Comparing to 1.5 loss out 58 million pupulation of Great Britain would be - 870000 (eight hundread seventy thousand) people.
This is nothing new to the people who are not blinded by their retarded nationalistic pride or average American Joe that does not know two shits about the affairs that are happening beyond his neighborhood.
It actually sickens me to even think about that there are people still out there that think that Russia attacked S. Ossetia. It's even worse when I have to speak to one of those retards, and the sad part about this, I have to speak with them a lot!
Kitsmarishvilo, sheni klis mcoveli deda movtkan sheni sisxli movtkan she teslo...sheni gei dedas shesca kvelam.sadme tu gadamekare, mogitknav nacov dedis rdzes...bozishvilo
edinburgski 7 months ago
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Georgia didnot start this war! and russians know it very well
gio9191 8 months ago
go russia go us? i dont know who to believe. we all know america is full of crap and russia is one big douchebag. WE ARE ALL BADGUYS! the only good guys in this world are those who have lost family members in the war. Think about that
Bajedu 9 months ago
Russia started the war!!
gio9191 9 months ago
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RUSSIA IS AGRESSOR !!!...
just read this "Council of the European Union appointed Ambassador Heidi Tagliavini Head of the Independent International Fact-Finding Mission on the Conflict in Georgia"
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Gizgiza2010 1 year ago
listen everyone, both sides have their faults just like any other nation but the fact of the matter is that GEORGIA started this war
FuckYouJesusChrist1 1 year ago
Russia today is a propaganda channel of the Kremlin, which is funded by criminal money from Gazprom and mafia structures in the Russian government
uastirji 1 year ago
@uastirji And exactly what country doesnt perpetrate propaganda? Well all nations do but still doesnt change the fact that GEORGIA started this particular war with south ossentia
FuckYouJesusChrist1 1 year ago
hei pigs anybody is listening to besides you pigs, I don't think so, so way bother, just broadcast in russia
teoge5 1 year ago
they got a green light so they could boob.
LocoRedKixx 1 year ago
Georgia started war, not other way around.
Stop listening NATO bullshit!
Mesina2 2 years ago 3
this news is controlled by russia! so i'll say fuck it fucking dirty liers!
Russiansaredicks 3 years ago
Heyyyyy, RussiaToday :) Hello Putin, i think you are pretty good with video editing programs. Good luck with your further propaganda. Bye bye!
ExtrAFaktor 3 years ago
fucking assholle !!
gogiano 3 years ago
ivo zaverbovali ruskie,erosi vsio ibal,arestovat etu mraz nado
sukhumi 3 years ago
Kartveli2 please dont take us for fools.With satellite and internet, we can get all the news arround the world including BBC.
Your troops were indiscriminatly shelling the Ossetian City with Grad rockets which are for carpet bombing and therefore did not care who it killed.Then when they entered the town, they attacked civilian apartment even when there was no military activity there.They attacked cars and transports that were heading north to Russia obviously they were not military.Source BBC.
ranlaen 3 years ago
Georgia did not bring anyone under the internation courts.Sorry dont know where you get your source from but rest of us know.
You military boss was fired for the poor conduct of the war against the Russian army and not for human rights abuse.
he only cases in Hague over the war is the hundreds forwarded by the South Ossetian individuals against Georgia.The Case forwarded by Georgia against Russia was dismissed as you know.
ranlaen 3 years ago
As for the Russian troops that were there before the war,lets me tell you that we all know that they were placed there as per Sochi treaty.The peacekeeping force consisted of also Ossetian and Georgian units.The same Georgian units that killed their fellow peacekeepers when the war started.For that alone,if it happened to our troops or the American,we would have bombed Tibilis.
What more the Peacekeepers had an UN mandate which was renewed even early this year.
Its too late we all now know.
ranlaen 3 years ago
Want to hear the latest?
Remember the shooting near the Georgian and Polish Presidents motorcade?
The Polish Security detail at that time are claiming the Georgians staged the whole affair.
First they place the bus of Journalists in front of the line of cars which was odd as usually they are behind the convoy.Then when the shooting started Saakashvili was smiling and his bodyguards did not react.
So how can we take seriously anything that crazy guy says?
ranlaen 3 years ago
This is Georgian traitor! Death to kitsmarishvili guy! Hired asshole!
kartveli2 3 years ago
lol, he is the only one that acually has some brains in his head unlike sukashvili.... Atleast he admited it and he wasnt afraid of it.
You see? You bitches only do what US tells you to, haha. America's dog.
XShevaX 3 years ago
Brain? Admit what? bunch of lies? What are you saying, everyone in Georgia has no brain but Kitsmarishvili? Fuck you asshole. I bet you have no high school finished. Probably working somewhere MacDOnald. Go educate yourself!
kartveli2 3 years ago
The FACT that a georgian loyal, government official, and sukashvili's confidant admited such things, and the fact that he knows and understands how international political mechnisms work shows A LOT of credibility and it all makes sense. Georgians are so slow, almost like Estonians- its sad.
XShevaX 3 years ago
Even some american officials stated that the georgia started all of this shit. Even rise said that georgia attacked first, but she said it in an upseting way, lol. But thats a start :)
XShevaX 3 years ago
So is Saakashvili also a traitor?
After all he has now been forced to admit that he started the whole shit.
BBC reported that Georgian soldiers were targeting civilians.
The dust is clearing and we are seeing more and more how nice the Georgians really are.
ranlaen 3 years ago
Nope, Georgian soldiers weren't targeting civilians. They were targeting ossetian separatists wo were bunched up in civilian population places and were firing from there. It was a war!
kartveli2 3 years ago
Sorry but thats not what BBC Nightwatch programme reported.
Funny that after that programme was aired.Our UK FM distanced himself from Saakashvili.
On the other hand Saakashvili accused BBC of been under control of the FSB.Very funny.
Do you not follow the news?
ranlaen 3 years ago
I only follow opposition news. Just getting informative how my enemy side perceive the situation and how much they're lying. So that when a person like "XShevaX" comes and starts talking I will at least have an idea what his talking about. I don't really watch BBC though because of my location, But yes, BBC is more neutral.
The certain war crimes, of course are clearly made by both sides and I have nothing against it. When the war blows up soldiers can't recognize what their doing and thats it.
kartveli2 3 years ago
And yes, Georgian government brought many of the generals in front of international justice as the accusation of inappropriate military operations but it is not as significant as what Russians did with the order of government, Directly!
Also when we started war, we can prove that Tschinvali was surrounded by hundreds of Russian soldiers and mediators. Who clearly were mobilized to attack Georgian side. But we were first! Positionally we won the war and thats how we survived of full occupation.
kartveli2 3 years ago
And this guy, who's talking right here, has not talked this much live, on Rustavi2 for millenniums. Politicians often called him "silent politician" as the nick name. But one beautiful day he started talking rapidly on sharply on Russia's position. Tell me who he really is?
kartveli2 3 years ago
Go Russia
yulatheterror 3 years ago
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Lilylovesdisney 3 years ago
If you want the essence of corruction look at the British banking system. Fat cats from wall to wall. Biggest rewards are for failure. Banking is legalised theft and they can't lose. When things go tits up the Powers through billions of taxpayers money at them. Nice work if you can get it. Our corruption is more invisible but then we have been practising for hundreds of years. All our arch criminals are in Parliament and the House of Lords.
dk07dot 3 years ago
this is just another ploy to get western arms nearer Russia. Since the west is financially shafted the natural wealth of Russia can make more fat cats. Provocation from George Bush's pal in Georgia, via the CIA, makes the world less safe. How that wanker in Georgia thought he could slaughter innocent people and point the finger at Russia remains a mystery. Next time the murderer is in the USA he should go to Hollywood. He will feel at home with the actors, especially the unemployed ones
dk07dot 3 years ago
The truth is Sakashvili started the war in Ossetia. Russia helped Ossetian's fight the war.
NUSRPKINA 3 years ago 2
the first small piece of hope in georgia!
antiwestpropaganda 3 years ago 2
I dont belive in America.
prokurtan 3 years ago 6
go Russia!
ewtwerg 3 years ago 8
Russia - 142 millions sitizens
Georgia - 5 millions
What are you want?If Georgia will go to russian corrupt position,there nobody to work.
zlovonek 3 years ago
at least, he never gave any order to attack and shell sleeping city, to expell people from their land. his only deeds are his words. so, as a colourful background in russian parliament he's ok. about his being saint, you are exaggerating.
mikkitiny 3 years ago
bunky, let's not mix chops and flies. we are talking georgian affairs now. and to the names you gave i would add Okruashvilli's, as well. he was hawky hawk in Saka's government, still once they got in the conflict of interests Okruashvilli was taken in jail and expelled from the country later on.
and please don't mix chops and flies. you are not in the position of knowing truth about Putin or Kadyrov and judging. be modest and people will like you.
mikkitiny 3 years ago
Georgian-Polish provocation on borders with Independent Republic of South Ossetia...just show to the reasonable people outside the world how desperate, angry and frustrated the Georgian autocratic regime is.
Sakashvili must show to his own people in Georgia how brave he is and how he is ready to take control of new Independent Republics in his hand.
Georgian people must throw this dictator and incompetent polititian from his autocratic throne as soon as posible.
MultipleEFP 3 years ago
it shows first of all how reckless and irresponsible are those two presidents. do they fit for presidency at all? i doubt it very much.
mikkitiny 3 years ago
bunk you dumbass, even if 356 people did die, that's still 356 innocent lives. As for the Georgians, they brought it upon themselves. They attacked the provinces where the peacekeepers were stationed. If someone started shooting at you, would you not shoot back?
jpcash11 3 years ago
what I don't get is this. A war is described as a fight with military against military. Georgia on the other side has made it military against civilians. Do you call that war or genocide?
2pimpinout 3 years ago
Genocide, but America does not want to recognise it as so, especially since it supported the war.
Or so some say.
But I say so, because Georgia simply wanted to wipe the land clean in their missile attack during the middle of the night.
jpcash11 3 years ago
Porra, vão trucidar os caras, que caralho de asa é esse?!
uhfuhshihowoihyr 3 years ago
Maybe you'll stop to write here? Nobody listen your absurd comments.
igorvasilevsky 3 years ago
the man should be careful now. Saka is known for his ability to emprison or kill his opponents.
mikkitiny 3 years ago
Did CNN/Faux show it? oh wait.. When CNN/Faux showed truth last time?
igorvasilevsky 3 years ago
2000 South Ossetians killed and 17 Russian peace keepers in just 1 day !
THAT IS THE BRUTAL GENOCIDE !!!
MultipleEFP 3 years ago
hahahah And many Georgians are still belive Saakashvili. Erosi Kitsmarishvili just don't want swimming in these lies.
2:18 Look at this Grad. All western media showed it like "Russian agresson". Is this not propaganda? You was brainwashed and you just don't want to recognise that.
NeMetov 3 years ago
It's all propaganda trying to cover the unjust actions taken by Georgia.
jpcash11 3 years ago
i feel for russia. medvedev is visiting alot of the enemies of the us. and naval exercises.
why are they choosing that route? is the us taking advantage of russians, like the germans did (and for the same reason?) i wonder.
blockade471 3 years ago
Bush Administration is taking advantage of a lot of countries. Forming a jingoistic empire.
loverofbeats 3 years ago
serbia and bosnia mirror reflection.
KhmerD0g 3 years ago
1,500 people killed. thats not a lot.
NewOrder915 3 years ago
show me facts!
There wasn't "Genocide"!
Before think than talk!
Besssssooo 3 years ago
thats what i am saying too. no genocide
NewOrder915 3 years ago
sorry . . . my mistake :)
Besssssooo 3 years ago
For a small nation of a little over 100000??? That's 1.5 percent. Comparing to 1.5 loss out 58 million pupulation of Great Britain would be - 870000 (eight hundread seventy thousand) people.
libmgsms 3 years ago 3
One dead person is too many. Sitting here saying 1,500 dead people mean nothing? Shut the fuck up.
AnonymousCthulhu 3 years ago 2
do you favor the russian or georgian side?
blockade471 3 years ago
there's no sides first of all!! Georgia - Ossetia conflict dates even before the collapse of the Soviet Union.
loverofbeats 3 years ago
1,500 civilians killed in three days in the 21st century; thats not alot? Sooo... Hows life in Georgia these days friend?
andy7666 3 years ago
I know all this stuff. This is not news to me.
sniper6081 3 years ago
This is nothing new to the people who are not blinded by their retarded nationalistic pride or average American Joe that does not know two shits about the affairs that are happening beyond his neighborhood.
It actually sickens me to even think about that there are people still out there that think that Russia attacked S. Ossetia. It's even worse when I have to speak to one of those retards, and the sad part about this, I have to speak with them a lot!
Naminator236 3 years ago 3
they want independence. shut up! you dont know exactly how it started!
NewOrder915 3 years ago
Georgia is already independent!
Unless your talking about S. Ossetia, in which case would not make one damn bit of sense.
Naminator236 3 years ago
Two different set of strings both pulled by the same puppet masters
new world order
northerndisclosure 3 years ago