@kingdaleclarke ....you are the one whos stupid...your pathetic and ignorace in boxin are sooo expose... on how in the world you had marquez winning? where its so clear that PACMAN is the winner... by backpedalling counter puncing style? stupid..
@kingdaleclarke ... marquez win more rounds? are u nuts? take a closer look at marquez face its totally mess out.. marquez punches r clear to see coz its soo slow.. PACMAN punches are just ligtning it was soo very fast.. PACMAN IS THE CLEAR WINNER>> 8 rounds to 4
He never wanted to see floyd.They duck floyd and they have lied to the media so they can continue to duck.Bob Arum said they may do it again in may but when mayweather says lets fight in may Bob Arum says there is no magic in may.
British commentator became a judge in boxing...... maybe they want hatton win when hatton nearly died in pacquiao hattons figthts..........How can a looser ever win......crazy commentators....
The Sky network is more honest than HBO.When Amhir lost and was deducted 2 points they knew why.HBO had no clue that pushing was illegal and that's all Khan did.
again, Nacho Demencia informed Pee Wee Marquez that he was winning & coasted the final couple of rounds. Pee Wee should've won. That's y Pee Wee wants to strangle Nacho Tostitos. Don't blame Arum, Roach, Pacquiao, the FiliPenis, Khan, the ref., the Brits, Ariza, Obama, the drug cartel.............. BLAME NACHO for his Demencia
Thoughts on Pacquiao’s majority-decision over Juan Manuel Marquez on November 12th…
“Truthfully, it was really a close fight. From a judge’s standpoint, if a guy is a champion, you have to kind of beat him pretty good. I thought Pacquiao might have edged it out. I don’t understand what his corner was talking about for two rounds he told him he was in the lead and therefore and he thought he could just float through there and get by."
Thinking during the fight: 1st 4 rounds.it seems marquez is winning but he cant hurt pacquiao, pacquio will kill him + KO his ass, rounds 5-8, end of round 5, WTF what a clear punch from marquez WTF no respect, end of round 8, damn it the mayweather fight is fucked they cant rob marquez punches are too clear and pacquiao is bleeding. Round 8 -12, pacquiao is too desparate no way he can win on points.Decision: Wow i witnessed a clear cut robbery :) didnt think it was possible.
@luimba ...there is no robbery my friend, pacquiao is the clear winner..pacquiao's bloody face due to cut he suffered during accidental headbutt.. aside from cut, pacquiao's face is very clear . marquez face is totally mess.. lots of pacquiao punches are landed in marquez face..u cant see the punches coz its just lightning...it was so very fast...
Senor Pee Wee Marquez es muy bueno. Pero Nacho es dementado y tarantado. Nacho Dementia es no intiende boxeo, no comprende Pacquiao's corazon y stylistico. Senor Marquez es no agresivo. Senor Emmanuel Pacquiao para El Presidente de Mexico !!!! Viva Arriba Aruba ! Buenos dias y Pacquito Diaz y Romy Diaz
the only problem is they couldnt see pacquiao punches because its too fast! just watch post fight conference & compare the fighters faces..or maybe watch it in slow-mo...
I don't mean to be rude but american boxing experts especially Harold either don't know SHIT about boxing or either they are always bribed fight after fight by Arum.
We Brits tell you like it is and our reporters are the real deal.Polite but very right!
Im going to be there may 5th if Pacquiao takes on Floyd after growing some BALLS ... and Team up with all the Mexican fans to take a giant shit and piss on every Pacturd we see After Floyd Beats Pacquiao !!!
^ such as criticising pacquiao for thanking God for his victory. He can do what he wants, like thanking God for it, that's what free will is about you simple minded imbeciles.....
Actual fucking LOL. If they were any good at what they were suppose to do they would be able to know strong good reasons why pacquiao won and STILL be able to argue why Marquez should've won. But then again, these immature, sad little bastards decide to take it out on pacquiao after he cock blocked their Ricky Hatton knocking him out in the second round and act like you would expect a heinous bitch would do in an argument, picking on every thing pacquiao says - like criticising pacquiao thankin
@Kabaratchi Ok i assume you are from the phillipines.......so here you go =look at pacquiao's face of defeat after the fight, look at pacquiao's face of surprise with the decision, look at Freddie Roach body language, look at bob arum apologizing and sucking up to marquez when the gloves were getting cut off... Pacquiao is a bum... Catchweight champion and doesnt fight fighters unless he has big advantages ...
@luimba ...the way i see it...b4 the fight lot of talking in pacquiao's camp..freddie boldly predicting a KO.even if pacquiao not predicting a KO u can see it in his eyes the confidence to KO dinamita+the controversy in thier 2nd fight to erase all the dou..t.. + the odds,,+ ecpectation of the fans..very close fight my friend...but pacquiao is ahead by points.. that is y freddie and manny's face are look disappointed.. imao.. thank's
I'm a bigger JMM fan than a Manny fan, I try to look a a match objectively but that's always a bit difficult. Its takes time a several reviews to effectively evaluate some fights. I saw the fight an Manny won this fight, but he was exposed as a rather flawed boxer.
@1879gym But if Manny won, then he must be a less flawed boxer than JMM. All boxers have flaws, just some more than others. JMM fought the fight of his life but still fell a tad short. Plus, JMM is a very good counter puncher, but he can't fight well being the aggressor. Props to both guys though, they are both world class. and styles make fights.
What a nice fighter Manny is. He will give Marquez another chance and make history with Manny. Give him more shares in the fight like 60-40. Thanks to Manny if it was floyd he take everything for himself and rob his ppv fans.
BRITISH GUY DOESNT WANT PACMAN TO THANK GOD? WHO ARE YOU MEN? ARROGANT BRITISH ANCHOR, YOU NEED TO REVIEW YOUR VIDEO AND COUNT ONE BY ONE. REVIEW AGAIN AND YOU WILL SEE HOW MARQUEZ PLAY A FOOT STOMPING TO PACMAN. I LIKE PACMAN WHO HUMBLE HIMSELF AND ACKNOWLEDGED GOD FOR HIS VICTORY. LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR ARROGANT FIGHTER HATTON? HOW HE TAUNTED PACMAN BEFORE, BUT AFTER THE FIGHT, HATTON WENT CRAZY GOT DRUGS FROM MEXICO ALMOST COMMITTED SUICIDE BECAUSE OF HIS ARROGANCE.
for me it was a good comedy before and after-the same fight, the big winners were the bookmakers, sponsors and the same fighters, while the public got what she needed, excitement, controversy, definitive fulfilled the role
The Brits still hate Manny for humiliating Hatton.
No question that Marquez fought a great fight but Manny did too. He beat Marquez's face to a pulp when he was only marked with a cut from Marquez head butting him.
@hawkermustang The world saw Marquez beat Pacquiao. I scored it 117-112! This has nothing to do with anyone being asian. You Pacquiao fan's have a million excuses as to why Marquez didn't win the fight, and now you want to say those who saw Marquez won are RACISTS! Get a grip on reality!!!
@MojaveLV Me and the Judges just saw Manny win, that is all that matters. These announcers and many Brits are just pissed at Manny killing the highly over rated Hatton. And at 1:50 the silly clown says there will be a massive investigation? LOL He don't know shit about boxing and there is no investigation. Manny threw and landed more punches, so he won the fight. Simple math. I had it 115-113 for Manny.
@hawkermustang Well me and 88% of the boxing experts that HBO polled say that Pacquiao did NOT win that fight. I agree that Hatton was overrated, however Pacquiao is even MORE overrated! You cite compubox (compulies) as if it were Gospel. If you're so confident in compubox, why don't we just get rid of the judges, and use compubox instead? Watch round four when the compubox graphic is up, Pacquiao was credited with 2 punches while he CLEARLY did not land anything! Continued in next comment.....
@hawkermustang Marquez landed the better body punches. Manny didn't land one SOLID body punch. Marquez landed the better combinations, and many of them. Manny didn't land one SOLID combination. Marquez landed the harder punches. Marquez's face was swollen due to the headbutt in the fourth, hence the swelling in the fifth. Marquez controlled the distance making Pac miss wildly. Marquez landed the better jabs. Manny landed only a few grazing ones. How did Pacquiao win, again? Marquez 117-112!!!!!!
@MojaveLV Manny landed 176 and JMM only landed 138 punches. Also, JMM couldn't hurt Manny no matter what he landed. The only damage on Manny's face was a cut from a head butt. JMM's face looked like dog meat at the end.
If we go by punch stats Manny won, If we go by the judges Manny won either way we look at it Manny won.
Apparently Manny has much more power than JMM. I glancing blow from Manny does more damage than a clean blow from JMM.
@hawkermustang Funny how you just ignored my fourth round compulies fact, and proceeded to tell me that Pacquiao landed more punches! That speaks volumes. Marquez's face was more beat up by KATSIDIS for Christ's sake. Again, you ignore the fact that Marquez's skin will damage easier (he's 38) and you ignore the headbutt in round 4. You also ignored all my observations (body punching, combinations, ring generalship ect) because you can't say Pacquiao did these things better than Marquez CONT.....
@MojaveLV The Mexican did well, and Manny looks to be on the decline, but Manny still won, stop crying. JMM at least needed a knock down to beat the champ while throwing and landing fewer punches.
JMM had no choice but to counter punch, if he tried to be the aggressor he would have got knocked out.
@hawkermustang I love how you just keep ignoring my argument points!!!!! YOU KNOW MARQUEZ WON. You have no argument against it! Literally......you just keep saying Manny won, and say things like "if he tried to be the aggressor he would have got knocked out." That last statement just shows how un-objective you actually are. Marquez 117-112!!!!!
@MojaveLV Your argument points are weak. JMM, landed the cleaner shots, blah, blah, blah, well the nigga couldn't knock manny down so those shots weren't big at all. Lets not forget that Manny was even knocked down by a Flyweight, Yet JMM could never rock him. And your whole channel is just videos about JMM crying about his loss. Anyway, liberalism is mental disorder bro. You must be Mexican.
@hawkermustang "You must be Mexican" definitely sounds like a right-wing nut. Your logic is extreamly flawed because of statements like "JMM could never rock him." Did you see the three fights? Also, according to your logic, if Marquez's shots were as weak as you say, then SO TO WERE PACQUIAO'S because he didn't knock down Marquez! I'm not Mexican, I'm American, which is what you're not by the way you say ignorant things like "You MUST be Mexican" CONT....
@hawkermustang and "liberalism is a mental disorder." For your information I'm a NON-PARTISAN. I vote republican 80% of the time. It's crazy and uncivil people like you that stop constructive discourse from taking place, "BRO." Grow up. Also........MARQUEZ EASILY BEAT PACQUIAO. Still waiting on the compulies fourth round expose, and for you to tell me that Pacquiao landed the better punches to the face, body, or combinations or jabs. I doubt you will. You should have more honor and integrity.
@MojaveLV "right-wing government conspiracy theories?" You sound like a left wing nut to me you brought political insults first son. Then you tell me to grow up? lol you're a doofus. And I could care less if you thing JMM won every round. You JMM fans loved to talk compubox stats in the 1st 2 fights, but you don't like compubox stats in this fight. Hypocritical!
@hawkermustang Have you spoken to me before???? NO. So shy would you assume that I value compubox? I've never trusted compulies (aka the fat guy pushing buttons outside the arena inside the HBO truck). Again, you call me a "left wing nut." I'M CENTER-RIGHT in my political positions. However, to you, I would have to probably believe that our President was not born in the country, and that gun rights are a "human" right. Go read Socrates to clear your mind. Marquez won 117-112!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@hawkermustang 118-110 for PACQUIAO???!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Between your conspiracy theories and that RIDICULOUS score, I'm afraid that your brain is not functioning well at all. I really do feel sorry for people like you. Just remember when Floyd KOs Pacquiao in the late rounds, Pacquaio does not know YOU, nor does he care about you. It's OK for him to lose. MARQUEZ 117-112.......AT LEAST!!!!!
@nonplusultra18 JMM did well but he lost. Fools say M.P. lost and JMM landed the better shots, yet JMM looked beat up at the end. Props to JMM for avoiding getting knocked out. And these guys sound like fools with their investigation bs. lol JMM needs to quit crying. He sounds like a bitch.
Marquez did all these things better than Pacquiao and you say they was no CLEAR winner??????????? Well it was clear to 88% of boxing experts according to HBO, and almost ALL boxing fans around the world. But clearly we're all crazy, and you and the other Pacquiao fans are correct. Hahahahahahaha. The world DID see a clear winner, and it was JUAN MANUEL "DINAMITA" MARQUEZ!
@hawkermustang Marquez did all these things better than Pacquiao and you say they was no CLEAR winner??????????? Well it was clear to 88% of boxing experts according to HBO, and almost ALL boxing fans around the world. But clearly we're all crazy, and you and the other Pacquiao fans are correct. Hahahahahahaha. The world DID see a clear winner, and it was JUAN MANUEL "DINAMITA" MARQUEZ!
@hawkermustang Oh my God. I just saw your channel, and your interests (aside from right-wing government conspiracy theories) revolve around MAYWEATHER!!!!???? HAHAHAHA! I feel sorry for you! But Marquez killed Pacquiao, and now Mayweather is going to bury him. No wonder you can't admit Marquez beat Pacquaio. You need to keep the dream alive that he has a chance against Mayweather!!!! Marquez 117-112!!!
Think about how big a victory Marquez had. This fight was setup for Marquez to lose. They had this match made when Marquez turned 38. They knew what happened when Marquez fought at 144 lb weight limit. They knew Pacquiao was very comfortable at this weight. Roach claimed Pacquiao had the best training camp ever.
So what happened? We witnessed Marquez put on a magnificent 12-round boxing clinic, as he surgically dissected a known steroid junkie.
Say what?? What are these commentators talking about?Din't even know what they had sayin? It's ok this is the first take analysis on the fight...So they don't know yet what exactly happened...Bonjour Philippines!
Pacquiao is shame on him by the desition, look his face when the judges says he won... even philippine people mentioned they are shamed by that terrible desition. If you look the video.... Marquez hits the most, and yes Marquez counter atacks, why not?.
oh marquez stepped on his foot.... whaaa whaaa whaaa PACMAN WON!!!! idiot...... this people even cry when they win... imagine if he actually would of lost... no wonder they call you people pacTARDS.. cus you eat through your ass and shit through your mouth... this people can except someone gave pacman a good fight.. they have to cry even when he wins.... i have pitty for you people you hang on, on this mans balls like a god.. to bad manny gives a shit about you... lol..
Will some one please make a video and count the SHOTS landed and see if compubox was lying... blocked punches don't count.... And I don't believe compubox on this fight... they were mixing it up too much and some rounds manny clearly was out landed, folks, we score fights by rounds, not overall number, u get no credit from round 3 in rd 10... get it... count rd by rd, not a total number of punches
watch pacman next fight either Marquez or Mayweather!!!!! Manny told the filipino people im sorry i didnt KO marquez the way you all expected!!!!! now i feel angry with my self Promise in my next fight marquez or mayweather......I will show to them the REAL Manny Pacquaio is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
que estupidez cuando escucho decir que marquez tenia que haber t.k.o. pacquiao para ganar, en que parte del reglamento dice que una pelea solo se gana con t.k.o.? solo porque manny es el campeon, es como decir que el madrid le tuviese que ganar la final de la champions al barcelona 3-0, no 1-0 ni 2-0, solo porque el barcelona es el campeon de la final pasada, es tan estupido como eso. es muy claro que todo se trata del tenian que mantener al campeon para: mayweather-manny pac
This is a Title Fight! Pacquiao is the Champ and still he is the aggressive one from Round 1 to 12 and also he landed shots 166 over JMM 138. how can a challenger beat a champ with that Numbers plus the fact that MP is the one who is aggressive in the fight. for me ders no cheat. MP win the fight
If a judge deems that fighter A has out-boxed(aggressve) fighter B in a round, then s/he will score the round 10 points for fighter A, and 9 points for fighter B.
If fighter B is knocked down by fighter A, and receives a standing count, then the round is scored 10 points to fighter A and 8 points to fighter B. If the judge decides that neither fighter won a round, then he will score it 10 points to each fighter.
@alenelv effectiveness? how come MP landed many shots than marquez if is not effective. For u to beat a champion u have to be aggressive or knowdown the champ...did JMM did this NO...
How to Score a Fight
From Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia
If a judge deems that fighter A has out-boxed(aggressve) fighter B in a round, then s/he will score the round 10 points for fighter A, and 9 points for fighter B.
@alenelv Your stupid. Watch the fight again and you see how marquez steps on pacmans foot over 17 times. there are plenty videos of it on the front page as i type this.
@alenelv maybe these expert comentators shud review the video again in slowmo & score it per round. It was a close fight and I scored it for pacquiao winning. yes marquez conected some gud shot but it wasn't enough to win d fight. I thought Jmm won also d 1st time but when I've watch the replay & reviewed it carefully it was manny who won. pacman fast conected shot can b rarely sin by our eyes and that s d reason why we are being fooled by our eyes.
@alenelv If you're not happy about the judges decisions then maybe your JMM should've knocked MP out or at least win decisively. Otherwise accept the judges decisions and have some sportsmanship. People got crazy over the decision that night. Not only Mexicans but all kinds of nationalities and yes including some Filipinos here and in the Philippines. It;s just sad that it's human nature to capitalize on little loop holes to put a good man down. I meam it's not like Marquez knocked Manny down.
@cbronpresumedtwisted it's uneffective since he failed about 80% of his punches while Marquez landed over 30% (not compubox stats, watch the fight in slow motion)
@Myzrael87 people explain because people love pacman...if u thought marquez won then buy some beer and celebrate man..im on pacman side...but i know this fight is not conclusive so i wont say he won the fight,i would rather call it a draw..people who dont know thing and just say things just to make them selves prude..cheers men...
Marquez cant win by just counter punching all nite! He needed to step up and be the aggressor to beat the Champ which he didnt do. Manny gave Marquez the opportunity. Manny controlled the fight, Manny is the Aggressor, Manny his power shots!
Emmanuel Steward was right! watch him you might learn something! Now bring Floyd in the house for Super Fight!
@boxinboxout1 Manny controlled the fight? Seriously doubt it, man. Agressor? yes, without effectiveness. Manny's power shots overwhelmed by Márquez's. That's the obvious for sure. See the pictures, see the Fight again.
@alenelv Evidence of PPV success for the next Pacquiao Marquez IV. Endless boos and empty bottles in the ring. Arum must be smiling when he saw that. Dont retire marquez! more money is coming. Cotto-MArquez, Maidana-Marquez, Khan-Marquez.
@boxinboxout1 AGGRESSOR MEANS BITCH ! Ali danced around the ring and look at hes tally of Great wins ! Being an aggressor looses its meaning if your not landing anything and running in to counter shots.. Your source is RUBBISH and laughable .How can your Bullshit even be possible after watching the bout with your own eyes.Dont talk yourself out of it by pretending to look for excuses and trying to convince yourself to thinking ''maybe'' this . ''maybe'' that.
sooooooo im pretty sure floyd said he wanted to fight manny in may they talking abt a 4th fight? wtf and then they trying to say mayweather is a chicken and scared but they pushing him to the side for a fourth fight thats some lame bullshit!!!
there was an awkward moment where pacquiao had the interview with mario lopez he looked really sad and bob arum then tried 2 cheer him up but pac was still sad ..that was making me sad but then again imagine how jmm must have felt
HAHA. THAT SEEMS LIKE THE TYPICAL FLOMO QUOTE. DO YOU GUYS ALWAYS LIKE TO QUOTE ROGER MAYWEATHER? MAYBE WHEN YOU CAN THINK FOR YOURSELF I'LL CONSIDER LISTENING TO WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. GET A LIFE LOSER.
@djswag8 Your the typical pactard who doesn't know shit about boxing! I can tell you don't know shit about boxing! It has nothing to do with roger mayweather and everything to do with the fact that most of you pactards if not all of you pactards don't know shit about boxing! If you do show me what you know about boxing!
This is the reason why i stoped watching Boxing for a long time , its all a show full of corrupt people , how can they say that pacquiao won? unbelievable! all mexican fighters should boicot vegas , its not the first time this hapens , but its the more obvious and clearer example of the corruption , Canelo , chavez Jr . morales , arce please step up and say something and stop fighting in las vegas ,untill they do something about this FROUDS! PACQUIAO WAS OUTCLASSED! NO DOUBTH.
@sanjaysrevoIutions DIsagree, isn't the same, the last one was obviously SUPERIOR in every aspect, taking into account that JMM is a total complete technical boxer, an expert counterpuncher and a born natural knocker, not to mention his intelligence. I'm accord that the philipino is a natural fast skilled puncher, I used to respect him, but a man that was obviously beaten and don't accept his loose, just can't be named a man for me.
@sanjaysrevoIutions "but if pacs that easy for floyd, why is floyd asking for extra blood loss tests? especially while the boxing commission has there own tests?" Are you serious? WTF!
@sanjaysrevoIutions The NSAC's drug testing standard is about 40 years out of date! They're still doing the same tests on fighters they did for Hagler-Hearns!! People have been criticising the drug standards in boxing for years and if you boxed a round in your life youd know how many fighters there are out there who use PEDs. Hell Freddie Roach had at least 2 fighters in his own stable who were caught with roids! Come ON man. Are you serious? People die in this sport for fucks sake. jesus
@sanjaysrevoIutions Man Ive been sayin pac was a fraud ever since the fuckin de la hoya fight. He made dlh come down to a fuckin weight he hadnt made in a decade. His corner have always been looking for advantages and pairing him up with guys who suit his style, coming off of losses and weight drained. He has held 3 fuckin belts at catchweights. FLOYD ASKED FOR A RANDOM BLOOD TEST. Manny is a global athlete and he refused a fuckin roid test. and youre defending him... seriously
@sanjaysrevoIutions barrera beat hamed because hamed was another overhyped dude just like pacquiao who, for his whole career, avoided barrera and morales who were the two top guys in the division. He had little defensive skills, fast hands and gr8 power, looked flashy and tricked people into believing he was the shit just like Pacquiao- only difference is Pacquiao has Bob arum who is a MASTER of that art. Barrera made it big by beating Hamed and Pac got to him after him after he was past it
MARQUEZ WAS NOT ROBBED. IT'S A FACT JUDGES TEND TO FAVOR THE GUY WHO IS PRESSING THE ACTION. MARQUEZ WAS BACK PEDALLING FOR MOST OF THE ROUNDS. IF PACQUIAO DIDN'T COME IN THEY WOULD BE DANCING ALL NIGHT. WATCH THE FIGHT AGAIN. YOU'LL SEE MANNY IS THE AGGRESSOR THROUGHOUT THE FIGHT. MARQUEZ PULLED BACK THE LAST FEW ROUNDS AND THAT'S WHY HE LOST.
@djswag8 Aggression without effectiveness doesn't win you a fight in a real boxing match. Only a person that know nothing about boxing would think that doing aggressive make you win a fight. Pac may have throw and landed slightly more punches, but most of the punches WERE NOT clean, hard shots. Most of Marquez punches WERE clean, hard shots. Marquez controlled the pace of the fight. Marquez clearly won that fight.
Your comment revealed that you know nothing about the sport of boxing.
HAHA. THAT SEEMS LIKE THE TYPICAL FLOMO QUOTE. DO YOU GUYS ALWAYS LIKE TO QUOTE ROGER MAYWEATHER? MAYBE WHEN YOU CAN THINK FOR YOURSELF I'LL CONSIDER LISTENING TO WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. GET A LIFE LOSER.@zarbon700
this 3 british commentators need to watch the fight again and review bring there own score cards they will see rounds 1- 3-4-5- 9--11-12 for pacquiao 2-6-7-8-10 for marquez
@sanjaysrevoIutions Youre desperately fighting a losing battle my friend,all the evidence is stacked against this dude. We finally have an opportunity to rehabilitate boxing by exposing these corrupt aspects of the game that ruin the sport, and idiots like you are sat over somewhere in the UK still defending Manny Pacquiao and his entire team at Top Rank. Boxing is about hit and dont be hit.Marquez landed the more effective punches and controlled the pace of the fight. he won. no 2 ways about it
@Kidbox45 And you didnt address any of the points I made neither because you have nothing to say, so I know youre a fanboy that doesnt know shit about the sport.
oh come on guys watch the replay of the fight you will see manny really won it!!!!even the hbo commentators saying the pacman is ahead in there score cards while they are still fighting they know pacman is ahead...its just that the expectation of many that they thought pacman will dominate dinamita but marquez give pacquiao heard time and be different to other fighter pacman fought but clearly i mean CLEARLY the pacman won it
@sanjaysrevoIutions everything you said in that post was bullshit word for word. He obviously struggled with more fighters than marquez cos he lost to morales when he was already over the hill, lost and drew 3 other fights. Manny pacquiao has asked for an entire list of things that arent within the rules of boxing. Are fight night weigh-ins in the rules? Are rehydration clauses in the commission rules? also, If weight classes dont mean much then i guess his 8 world titles dont mean shit.
@sanjaysrevoIutions Manny Pacquiao is the most media-hyped paper champ in the history of boxing bar none. To think that up until a year ago they were comparing this man to Henry Armstrong, Roberto Duran and SRR. ARE YOU SERIOUS?? AND, I wont even go into the whole steroid argument, moving up 4 weight clases in under 2 years and suddenly breaking faces, refusing drug tests, Catchweights, rehydration clauses and shit. Seriously how are you even defending this man? You should be a ashamed man
@sanjaysrevoIutions any skilled boxer who doesnt stand still and just take punches and that is not weight drained is manny's negative buddy. Thats why Morales and Marquez BOTH beat his ass.Thats why the fighters he looked best against are weight-drained, flat footed washed up bums like clottey, Hatton, Margarito, De la Hoya and Mosely. We saw him fight a guy who is way past his prime at 38, at a weight he only fought at once and got clearly and cleanly outboxed. if you dont see that u in denial
@Kidbox45 / people was saying Marquez is washed up before this fight so whats your point?........ he just proved that some fighters handle age differently so you mean to tell me your logic is right because you thunk it?....... yeah JMM is older now but so is Pacquiao and no trilogy will happen if the first two fights were never close at all?....... styles make fights and their styles are a good match up. I bet you werent saying delahoya was drained before the fight / hatton / or even Marg.
@sanjaysrevoIutions well it werent on saturday, buddy, sorry. You have your opinion, I respect that. But youre in a very small minority consisting mostly of philippinos. And that is a fact not an opinion
Lopez: 'Would you like to fight him (Mayweather) if the schedule permits come May'?
Pacquiao: 'On May i don't know i don't know it depends thats uh Bob Arums job, i'm going back to the Phillipines to do some work in the office'
And look at how Arum eagerly says that he's setting up a 4th Marquez fight. They also dodged questions about a Floyd fight in the post fight presser lol...
lol these pathetic fillipinos with their imature weak jokes makes me laugh at their stupidity and ignorance i had marquez winning but it was gd fight
kingdaleclarke 1 month ago
@kingdaleclarke ....you are the one whos stupid...your pathetic and ignorace in boxin are sooo expose... on how in the world you had marquez winning? where its so clear that PACMAN is the winner... by backpedalling counter puncing style? stupid..
slasherbulls75 1 month ago
@slasherbulls75 fillpinos dont knw shit,marquez won more rounds therefor should of got the win
kingdaleclarke 1 month ago
@kingdaleclarke ... marquez win more rounds? are u nuts? take a closer look at marquez face its totally mess out.. marquez punches r clear to see coz its soo slow.. PACMAN punches are just ligtning it was soo very fast.. PACMAN IS THE CLEAR WINNER>> 8 rounds to 4
slasherbulls75 1 month ago
@slasherbulls75 agree with you 8 rounds to 4 for pacquiao win. I like it when these so called boxing fans cry their asses off.
dantecry12 1 month ago
@slasherbulls75 did you see tha face of Nonito Donaire in his last fight ? he won that fight with the face messed up ,, sorry for my english !!
rata63 4 weeks ago
anyone know where i can see the full fight of pac v marquez 3 with british commentary,thanks ill apreciate it,
kingdaleclarke 1 month ago
@Kingdreamerful Exactly!Your Point Is. ?
TheCousinShow10 1 month ago
He never wanted to see floyd.They duck floyd and they have lied to the media so they can continue to duck.Bob Arum said they may do it again in may but when mayweather says lets fight in may Bob Arum says there is no magic in may.
ave383 1 month ago
i wont even waste my money on a 4th fight between these too if they fight again it will be the same result
gumshiel 1 month ago
Come on dNt b a manny or floyd fan b a boxing fan an watch the interview an fight whs duckin who it's manny whs duckin
786786s1 1 month ago
British commentator became a judge in boxing...... maybe they want hatton win when hatton nearly died in pacquiao hattons figthts..........How can a looser ever win......crazy commentators....
MrNatividad143 1 month ago
Where is the cut that is stopping him from fighting on may 5?You can't even see it.
ave383 1 month ago
The Sky network is more honest than HBO.When Amhir lost and was deducted 2 points they knew why.HBO had no clue that pushing was illegal and that's all Khan did.
ave383 1 month ago
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again, Nacho Demencia informed Pee Wee Marquez that he was winning & coasted the final couple of rounds. Pee Wee should've won. That's y Pee Wee wants to strangle Nacho Tostitos. Don't blame Arum, Roach, Pacquiao, the FiliPenis, Khan, the ref., the Brits, Ariza, Obama, the drug cartel.............. BLAME NACHO for his Demencia
Kabaratchi 1 month ago
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Former U.S. Olympic Boxing Coach Kenny Adams
Thoughts on Pacquiao’s majority-decision over Juan Manuel Marquez on November 12th…
“Truthfully, it was really a close fight. From a judge’s standpoint, if a guy is a champion, you have to kind of beat him pretty good. I thought Pacquiao might have edged it out. I don’t understand what his corner was talking about for two rounds he told him he was in the lead and therefore and he thought he could just float through there and get by."
Kabaratchi 1 month ago
Thinking during the fight: 1st 4 rounds.it seems marquez is winning but he cant hurt pacquiao, pacquio will kill him + KO his ass, rounds 5-8, end of round 5, WTF what a clear punch from marquez WTF no respect, end of round 8, damn it the mayweather fight is fucked they cant rob marquez punches are too clear and pacquiao is bleeding. Round 8 -12, pacquiao is too desparate no way he can win on points.Decision: Wow i witnessed a clear cut robbery :) didnt think it was possible.
luimba 1 month ago 6
@luimba Totally agree, my friend!!
alenelv 1 month ago 5
@luimba ...there is no robbery my friend, pacquiao is the clear winner..pacquiao's bloody face due to cut he suffered during accidental headbutt.. aside from cut, pacquiao's face is very clear . marquez face is totally mess.. lots of pacquiao punches are landed in marquez face..u cant see the punches coz its just lightning...it was so very fast...
slasherbulls75 1 month ago
Well a unanimous decision can go either way but i think that if marquez wants win the next fight he needs to win by knockout
Kingdreamerful 1 month ago
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Senor Pee Wee Marquez es muy bueno. Pero Nacho es dementado y tarantado. Nacho Dementia es no intiende boxeo, no comprende Pacquiao's corazon y stylistico. Senor Marquez es no agresivo. Senor Emmanuel Pacquiao para El Presidente de Mexico !!!! Viva Arriba Aruba ! Buenos dias y Pacquito Diaz y Romy Diaz
Kabaratchi 1 month ago
Faces Dont Tell Anything Dumbutts Some People Just Swell More Then Others!
TheCousinShow10 1 month ago 2
@TheCousinShow10 yeah, like juan manuel lopez
Kingdreamerful 1 month ago
the only problem is they couldnt see pacquiao punches because its too fast! just watch post fight conference & compare the fighters faces..or maybe watch it in slow-mo...
badboyfromdadiangas 1 month ago
u 3 kill yr slf. pggt
abadonfaith 2 months ago
they knew they lost that fight oh god so much anger...
elinfiernoentusojos 2 months ago
lol you can watch bob arum's strings controlling his media puppet... manny fraud pacquiao
elinfiernoentusojos 2 months ago
I don't mean to be rude but american boxing experts especially Harold either don't know SHIT about boxing or either they are always bribed fight after fight by Arum.
We Brits tell you like it is and our reporters are the real deal.Polite but very right!
Im going to be there may 5th if Pacquiao takes on Floyd after growing some BALLS ... and Team up with all the Mexican fans to take a giant shit and piss on every Pacturd we see After Floyd Beats Pacquiao !!!
TheRey4you 2 months ago
^ such as criticising pacquiao for thanking God for his victory. He can do what he wants, like thanking God for it, that's what free will is about you simple minded imbeciles.....
shyda97 3 months ago
Actual fucking LOL. If they were any good at what they were suppose to do they would be able to know strong good reasons why pacquiao won and STILL be able to argue why Marquez should've won. But then again, these immature, sad little bastards decide to take it out on pacquiao after he cock blocked their Ricky Hatton knocking him out in the second round and act like you would expect a heinous bitch would do in an argument, picking on every thing pacquiao says - like criticising pacquiao thankin
shyda97 3 months ago
look at freddie at 2:18 when paquiao says "i won the fight clearly" and the crowd starts booing...even he knows they lost the fight lol
luimba 3 months ago 6
@luimba Exactly, he knows it, but he's not man enought to admit it.
alenelv 3 months ago
@luimba = look at Nacho Dementia telling Pee Wee that he's clearly leading & winning the fight and look at Pee Wee smirking & grinning.
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Look at the Pee Drinker relaxed in the final 2 rounds.... boxing not to lose instead of boxing to win.
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Then look at Nacho & Pee Wee when the decision was announced crying & calling their mommies. Observe how Pee Wee wanted to strangle Nacho
Kabaratchi 1 month ago
@Kabaratchi Ok i assume you are from the phillipines.......so here you go =look at pacquiao's face of defeat after the fight, look at pacquiao's face of surprise with the decision, look at Freddie Roach body language, look at bob arum apologizing and sucking up to marquez when the gloves were getting cut off... Pacquiao is a bum... Catchweight champion and doesnt fight fighters unless he has big advantages ...
luimba 1 month ago
@luimba = me from Phillipines??? hahahaha. U crazy
Kabaratchi 1 month ago
@luimba ...the way i see it...b4 the fight lot of talking in pacquiao's camp..freddie boldly predicting a KO.even if pacquiao not predicting a KO u can see it in his eyes the confidence to KO dinamita+the controversy in thier 2nd fight to erase all the dou..t.. + the odds,,+ ecpectation of the fans..very close fight my friend...but pacquiao is ahead by points.. that is y freddie and manny's face are look disappointed.. imao.. thank's
slasherbulls75 1 month ago
gave a lecture to manny pacman boxing
hecfelmx 3 months ago
hasta estos weyes saben q MArquez gano..hasta en europa supieron del robo cabron y lo califican de una verguenza jejeje
ilshadat 3 months ago
Manny only failed to knock out a SCARED FIGHTER CHEAT ON PEDS.... Marquez is better off as a TENNIS PLAYER.....WAIT FOR THE BALL AND HIT IT !
1216mredchie 3 months ago
@1216mredchie PEDS??? HAHAHAHA!!!! If anyone is on PEDS it's Manny!!!! Marquez whooped him, and made him look like an amateur! Marquez 117-112.
MojaveLV 3 months ago
I'm a bigger JMM fan than a Manny fan, I try to look a a match objectively but that's always a bit difficult. Its takes time a several reviews to effectively evaluate some fights. I saw the fight an Manny won this fight, but he was exposed as a rather flawed boxer.
1879gym 3 months ago
@1879gym But if Manny won, then he must be a less flawed boxer than JMM. All boxers have flaws, just some more than others. JMM fought the fight of his life but still fell a tad short. Plus, JMM is a very good counter puncher, but he can't fight well being the aggressor. Props to both guys though, they are both world class. and styles make fights.
hawkermustang 3 months ago
What a nice fighter Manny is. He will give Marquez another chance and make history with Manny. Give him more shares in the fight like 60-40. Thanks to Manny if it was floyd he take everything for himself and rob his ppv fans.
zatoichiable 3 months ago
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BRITISH GUY DOESNT WANT PACMAN TO THANK GOD? WHO ARE YOU MEN? ARROGANT BRITISH ANCHOR, YOU NEED TO REVIEW YOUR VIDEO AND COUNT ONE BY ONE. REVIEW AGAIN AND YOU WILL SEE HOW MARQUEZ PLAY A FOOT STOMPING TO PACMAN. I LIKE PACMAN WHO HUMBLE HIMSELF AND ACKNOWLEDGED GOD FOR HIS VICTORY. LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR ARROGANT FIGHTER HATTON? HOW HE TAUNTED PACMAN BEFORE, BUT AFTER THE FIGHT, HATTON WENT CRAZY GOT DRUGS FROM MEXICO ALMOST COMMITTED SUICIDE BECAUSE OF HIS ARROGANCE.
paulyao05 3 months ago
for me it was a good comedy before and after-the same fight, the big winners were the bookmakers, sponsors and the same fighters, while the public got what she needed, excitement, controversy, definitive fulfilled the role
fverman 3 months ago
The Brits still hate Manny for humiliating Hatton.
No question that Marquez fought a great fight but Manny did too. He beat Marquez's face to a pulp when he was only marked with a cut from Marquez head butting him.
Shirishama1 3 months ago
@Shirishama1 No doubt, The Brits don't like Asians and are but hurt about Manny retiring their hero Hatton.
hawkermustang 3 months ago
@hawkermustang The world saw Marquez beat Pacquiao. I scored it 117-112! This has nothing to do with anyone being asian. You Pacquiao fan's have a million excuses as to why Marquez didn't win the fight, and now you want to say those who saw Marquez won are RACISTS! Get a grip on reality!!!
MojaveLV 3 months ago
@MojaveLV Me and the Judges just saw Manny win, that is all that matters. These announcers and many Brits are just pissed at Manny killing the highly over rated Hatton. And at 1:50 the silly clown says there will be a massive investigation? LOL He don't know shit about boxing and there is no investigation. Manny threw and landed more punches, so he won the fight. Simple math. I had it 115-113 for Manny.
hawkermustang 3 months ago
@hawkermustang Well me and 88% of the boxing experts that HBO polled say that Pacquiao did NOT win that fight. I agree that Hatton was overrated, however Pacquiao is even MORE overrated! You cite compubox (compulies) as if it were Gospel. If you're so confident in compubox, why don't we just get rid of the judges, and use compubox instead? Watch round four when the compubox graphic is up, Pacquiao was credited with 2 punches while he CLEARLY did not land anything! Continued in next comment.....
MojaveLV 3 months ago
@hawkermustang Marquez landed the better body punches. Manny didn't land one SOLID body punch. Marquez landed the better combinations, and many of them. Manny didn't land one SOLID combination. Marquez landed the harder punches. Marquez's face was swollen due to the headbutt in the fourth, hence the swelling in the fifth. Marquez controlled the distance making Pac miss wildly. Marquez landed the better jabs. Manny landed only a few grazing ones. How did Pacquiao win, again? Marquez 117-112!!!!!!
MojaveLV 3 months ago
@MojaveLV Manny landed 176 and JMM only landed 138 punches. Also, JMM couldn't hurt Manny no matter what he landed. The only damage on Manny's face was a cut from a head butt. JMM's face looked like dog meat at the end.
If we go by punch stats Manny won, If we go by the judges Manny won either way we look at it Manny won.
Apparently Manny has much more power than JMM. I glancing blow from Manny does more damage than a clean blow from JMM.
Fact is, there was no clear winner.
hawkermustang 3 months ago
@hawkermustang Funny how you just ignored my fourth round compulies fact, and proceeded to tell me that Pacquiao landed more punches! That speaks volumes. Marquez's face was more beat up by KATSIDIS for Christ's sake. Again, you ignore the fact that Marquez's skin will damage easier (he's 38) and you ignore the headbutt in round 4. You also ignored all my observations (body punching, combinations, ring generalship ect) because you can't say Pacquiao did these things better than Marquez CONT.....
MojaveLV 3 months ago
@MojaveLV The Mexican did well, and Manny looks to be on the decline, but Manny still won, stop crying. JMM at least needed a knock down to beat the champ while throwing and landing fewer punches.
JMM had no choice but to counter punch, if he tried to be the aggressor he would have got knocked out.
hawkermustang 3 months ago
@hawkermustang I love how you just keep ignoring my argument points!!!!! YOU KNOW MARQUEZ WON. You have no argument against it! Literally......you just keep saying Manny won, and say things like "if he tried to be the aggressor he would have got knocked out." That last statement just shows how un-objective you actually are. Marquez 117-112!!!!!
MojaveLV 3 months ago
@MojaveLV Your argument points are weak. JMM, landed the cleaner shots, blah, blah, blah, well the nigga couldn't knock manny down so those shots weren't big at all. Lets not forget that Manny was even knocked down by a Flyweight, Yet JMM could never rock him. And your whole channel is just videos about JMM crying about his loss. Anyway, liberalism is mental disorder bro. You must be Mexican.
hawkermustang 3 months ago
@hawkermustang "You must be Mexican" definitely sounds like a right-wing nut. Your logic is extreamly flawed because of statements like "JMM could never rock him." Did you see the three fights? Also, according to your logic, if Marquez's shots were as weak as you say, then SO TO WERE PACQUIAO'S because he didn't knock down Marquez! I'm not Mexican, I'm American, which is what you're not by the way you say ignorant things like "You MUST be Mexican" CONT....
MojaveLV 3 months ago 4
@hawkermustang and "liberalism is a mental disorder." For your information I'm a NON-PARTISAN. I vote republican 80% of the time. It's crazy and uncivil people like you that stop constructive discourse from taking place, "BRO." Grow up. Also........MARQUEZ EASILY BEAT PACQUIAO. Still waiting on the compulies fourth round expose, and for you to tell me that Pacquiao landed the better punches to the face, body, or combinations or jabs. I doubt you will. You should have more honor and integrity.
MojaveLV 3 months ago 2
@MojaveLV "right-wing government conspiracy theories?" You sound like a left wing nut to me you brought political insults first son. Then you tell me to grow up? lol you're a doofus. And I could care less if you thing JMM won every round. You JMM fans loved to talk compubox stats in the 1st 2 fights, but you don't like compubox stats in this fight. Hypocritical!
hawkermustang 3 months ago
@hawkermustang Have you spoken to me before???? NO. So shy would you assume that I value compubox? I've never trusted compulies (aka the fat guy pushing buttons outside the arena inside the HBO truck). Again, you call me a "left wing nut." I'M CENTER-RIGHT in my political positions. However, to you, I would have to probably believe that our President was not born in the country, and that gun rights are a "human" right. Go read Socrates to clear your mind. Marquez won 117-112!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MojaveLV 3 months ago
@MojaveLV 118-110 Manny!!!!!!!!!!!!
hawkermustang 3 months ago
@hawkermustang 118-110 for PACQUIAO???!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Between your conspiracy theories and that RIDICULOUS score, I'm afraid that your brain is not functioning well at all. I really do feel sorry for people like you. Just remember when Floyd KOs Pacquiao in the late rounds, Pacquaio does not know YOU, nor does he care about you. It's OK for him to lose. MARQUEZ 117-112.......AT LEAST!!!!!
MojaveLV 3 months ago
@hawkermustang that's because for this fight compubox was completely biased, not even close to reality.
nonplusultra18 2 months ago
@nonplusultra18 JMM did well but he lost. Fools say M.P. lost and JMM landed the better shots, yet JMM looked beat up at the end. Props to JMM for avoiding getting knocked out. And these guys sound like fools with their investigation bs. lol JMM needs to quit crying. He sounds like a bitch.
hawkermustang 2 months ago
Marquez did all these things better than Pacquiao and you say they was no CLEAR winner??????????? Well it was clear to 88% of boxing experts according to HBO, and almost ALL boxing fans around the world. But clearly we're all crazy, and you and the other Pacquiao fans are correct. Hahahahahahaha. The world DID see a clear winner, and it was JUAN MANUEL "DINAMITA" MARQUEZ!
MojaveLV 3 months ago
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@hawkermustang Marquez did all these things better than Pacquiao and you say they was no CLEAR winner??????????? Well it was clear to 88% of boxing experts according to HBO, and almost ALL boxing fans around the world. But clearly we're all crazy, and you and the other Pacquiao fans are correct. Hahahahahahaha. The world DID see a clear winner, and it was JUAN MANUEL "DINAMITA" MARQUEZ!
MojaveLV 3 months ago
@hawkermustang Oh my God. I just saw your channel, and your interests (aside from right-wing government conspiracy theories) revolve around MAYWEATHER!!!!???? HAHAHAHA! I feel sorry for you! But Marquez killed Pacquiao, and now Mayweather is going to bury him. No wonder you can't admit Marquez beat Pacquaio. You need to keep the dream alive that he has a chance against Mayweather!!!! Marquez 117-112!!!
MojaveLV 3 months ago
This fuckers...lol go suck Ricky Hattons dick..haha
Arnamuco 3 months ago
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"MARQUEZ THE MAN WHO THINK HE BEAT PACQUIAO 3X" WAHAHAHA....
Tunichi16 3 months ago
I am sorry pac loosers you know boxing is fake as american mafia creates fake crap boxing drug adicts is true
moreTTinez 3 months ago
2:11 WTF!!!
anibalsc 3 months ago
etong tatlong british commenTAE nato!!!!!
SuperGlaiza18 3 months ago
Think about how big a victory Marquez had. This fight was setup for Marquez to lose. They had this match made when Marquez turned 38. They knew what happened when Marquez fought at 144 lb weight limit. They knew Pacquiao was very comfortable at this weight. Roach claimed Pacquiao had the best training camp ever.
So what happened? We witnessed Marquez put on a magnificent 12-round boxing clinic, as he surgically dissected a known steroid junkie.
zachary261 3 months ago 27
@zachary261 Quoted for Truth!!
alenelv 3 months ago 2
Say what?? What are these commentators talking about?Din't even know what they had sayin? It's ok this is the first take analysis on the fight...So they don't know yet what exactly happened...Bonjour Philippines!
flinze2001 3 months ago
Pacquiao is shame on him by the desition, look his face when the judges says he won... even philippine people mentioned they are shamed by that terrible desition. If you look the video.... Marquez hits the most, and yes Marquez counter atacks, why not?.
leodetijuana 3 months ago
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JUAN MARQUEZ DIRTY OLD TACTICS NOT CAUGHT BY REFEREES. STEPPING PACQUIAO'S FOOT
eljohn22 3 months ago
many pacquiao off balance several time bec. marquez steps on pacmans foot cheater
eljohn22 3 months ago
oh marquez stepped on his foot.... whaaa whaaa whaaa PACMAN WON!!!! idiot...... this people even cry when they win... imagine if he actually would of lost... no wonder they call you people pacTARDS.. cus you eat through your ass and shit through your mouth... this people can except someone gave pacman a good fight.. they have to cry even when he wins.... i have pitty for you people you hang on, on this mans balls like a god.. to bad manny gives a shit about you... lol..
The777sunrise 3 months ago
Will some one please make a video and count the SHOTS landed and see if compubox was lying... blocked punches don't count.... And I don't believe compubox on this fight... they were mixing it up too much and some rounds manny clearly was out landed, folks, we score fights by rounds, not overall number, u get no credit from round 3 in rd 10... get it... count rd by rd, not a total number of punches
stevelovesgod 3 months ago
que pendejada, segun el culpable es "pacquiao" como si el hubiera dado los resultados de las tarjetas, no sean ignorantes!
jaimedelgadomusic 3 months ago
@Kidbox45 Thats why MGM gave away free tickets on Mayweather fight....nobody wants to watch it...
markm883 3 months ago
these Ignorant brits should watch this--> watch?v=9z5jkzyRT7s
markm883 3 months ago
mexicanios and british are crying babies!!!!!!!! sorry for marquez and hatton......better lack next time guys>.....hahahahahahahahahahahaha
meagangarcia17 3 months ago
watch pacman next fight either Marquez or Mayweather!!!!! Manny told the filipino people im sorry i didnt KO marquez the way you all expected!!!!! now i feel angry with my self Promise in my next fight marquez or mayweather......I will show to them the REAL Manny Pacquaio is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
meagangarcia17 3 months ago
que estupidez cuando escucho decir que marquez tenia que haber t.k.o. pacquiao para ganar, en que parte del reglamento dice que una pelea solo se gana con t.k.o.? solo porque manny es el campeon, es como decir que el madrid le tuviese que ganar la final de la champions al barcelona 3-0, no 1-0 ni 2-0, solo porque el barcelona es el campeon de la final pasada, es tan estupido como eso. es muy claro que todo se trata del tenian que mantener al campeon para: mayweather-manny pac
albinouna 3 months ago
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This is a fact !
Antonio Margarito = X
Marco Antonio Barrera = X
Eric Morales = X
Emmael Lucero = X
Hector Velazquez = X
Oscar Larios = X
Jorge Solis = X
Juan Manuel Marquez = X
poor mexicans
bojanglesme 3 months ago
Pacquiao-Marquez fight will become classic fight for being difficult to judge.
zatoichiable 3 months ago
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This is a Title Fight! Pacquiao is the Champ and still he is the aggressive one from Round 1 to 12 and also he landed shots 166 over JMM 138. how can a challenger beat a champ with that Numbers plus the fact that MP is the one who is aggressive in the fight. for me ders no cheat. MP win the fight
aragornvspanday 3 months ago
How to Score a Fight
From Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia
If a judge deems that fighter A has out-boxed(aggressve) fighter B in a round, then s/he will score the round 10 points for fighter A, and 9 points for fighter B.
If fighter B is knocked down by fighter A, and receives a standing count, then the round is scored 10 points to fighter A and 8 points to fighter B. If the judge decides that neither fighter won a round, then he will score it 10 points to each fighter.
aragornvspanday 3 months ago
@aragornvspanday That's rubbish! Agressive without effectiveness don't work against Márquez and isn't worth to a title.
alenelv 3 months ago 6
@alenelv effectiveness? how come MP landed many shots than marquez if is not effective. For u to beat a champion u have to be aggressive or knowdown the champ...did JMM did this NO...
How to Score a Fight
From Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia
If a judge deems that fighter A has out-boxed(aggressve) fighter B in a round, then s/he will score the round 10 points for fighter A, and 9 points for fighter B.
aragornvspanday 3 months ago
@alenelv Your stupid. Watch the fight again and you see how marquez steps on pacmans foot over 17 times. there are plenty videos of it on the front page as i type this.
MW3DailyClipOfTheDay 3 months ago
@alenelv maybe these expert comentators shud review the video again in slowmo & score it per round. It was a close fight and I scored it for pacquiao winning. yes marquez conected some gud shot but it wasn't enough to win d fight. I thought Jmm won also d 1st time but when I've watch the replay & reviewed it carefully it was manny who won. pacman fast conected shot can b rarely sin by our eyes and that s d reason why we are being fooled by our eyes.
aragornvspanday 3 months ago
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@alenelv If you're not happy about the judges decisions then maybe your JMM should've knocked MP out or at least win decisively. Otherwise accept the judges decisions and have some sportsmanship. People got crazy over the decision that night. Not only Mexicans but all kinds of nationalities and yes including some Filipinos here and in the Philippines. It;s just sad that it's human nature to capitalize on little loop holes to put a good man down. I meam it's not like Marquez knocked Manny down.
aragornvspanday 3 months ago
@alenelv but pacquiao's aggression IS EFFECTIVE,he made marquez' face a mess LOL
cbronpresumedtwisted 2 months ago
@cbronpresumedtwisted it's uneffective since he failed about 80% of his punches while Marquez landed over 30% (not compubox stats, watch the fight in slow motion)
nonplusultra18 2 months ago
@cbronpresumedtwisted Pacquiao's agression? lol he didnt land clean punches gtfo pactard
Situacion09 2 months ago
BIGGEST ROBBERY EVER FUCK YOU BOB ARUM VEGAS, MARQUEZ WON AGAIN.
robertol123450 3 months ago
Marquez won and got robbed. It's sad how people try to explain themselves that pacquiao won, they re just blind.
Myzrael87 3 months ago 9
@Myzrael87 people explain because people love pacman...if u thought marquez won then buy some beer and celebrate man..im on pacman side...but i know this fight is not conclusive so i wont say he won the fight,i would rather call it a draw..people who dont know thing and just say things just to make them selves prude..cheers men...
edwardsaymo1 3 months ago
@edwardsaymo1 Is PPV worth it? Cheeer at least were not robbed.
zatoichiable 3 months ago
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ybm24 3 months ago
Marquez cant win by just counter punching all nite! He needed to step up and be the aggressor to beat the Champ which he didnt do. Manny gave Marquez the opportunity. Manny controlled the fight, Manny is the Aggressor, Manny his power shots!
Emmanuel Steward was right! watch him you might learn something! Now bring Floyd in the house for Super Fight!
boxinboxout1 3 months ago
@boxinboxout1 Manny controlled the fight? Seriously doubt it, man. Agressor? yes, without effectiveness. Manny's power shots overwhelmed by Márquez's. That's the obvious for sure. See the pictures, see the Fight again.
alenelv 3 months ago 5
@alenelv Evidence of PPV success for the next Pacquiao Marquez IV. Endless boos and empty bottles in the ring. Arum must be smiling when he saw that. Dont retire marquez! more money is coming. Cotto-MArquez, Maidana-Marquez, Khan-Marquez.
zatoichiable 3 months ago
@alenelv manny is OVERRATED..... he is just a big pussy.... he couldnt bring down marquez
x2luicar 3 months ago
@x2luicar Marquez could have convince us he can knock down pacquiao in the fight. He is also over rated.
zatoichiable 3 months ago
@boxinboxout1 AGGRESSOR MEANS BITCH ! Ali danced around the ring and look at hes tally of Great wins ! Being an aggressor looses its meaning if your not landing anything and running in to counter shots.. Your source is RUBBISH and laughable .How can your Bullshit even be possible after watching the bout with your own eyes.Dont talk yourself out of it by pretending to look for excuses and trying to convince yourself to thinking ''maybe'' this . ''maybe'' that.
MARQUEZ 3- PACQUIAO 0
TheRey4you 3 months ago
@boxinboxout1 Using ur argument, Mayweather sucks because all he can do is counter punch, WTF? there is something called strategy and styles
kikeronaldo 3 months ago
why so they can steal the fight again.
miggie777 3 months ago
Marquez won and was robbed.
xfilipor 3 months ago
this is shit! haha!
kyou0327 3 months ago
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check this out boxing fans!! youtube.com/watch?v=WwAeQzMTXUY
alrey22 3 months ago
tu puta madre paquiao heroe de mierda!!!!!!!!!!!
nandato007 3 months ago 11
@nandato007 AWEBO!!!
alenelv 3 months ago
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@nandato007 MARQUEZ CLEARLY WON BY CHEATING LOLLLL!
Marquez cheating, drinking what??? watch?v=_9NxewXLze0
Marquez cheating, cheating feet! watch?v=s8r7FZI86yY
marquezcheating 3 months ago
sooooooo im pretty sure floyd said he wanted to fight manny in may they talking abt a 4th fight? wtf and then they trying to say mayweather is a chicken and scared but they pushing him to the side for a fourth fight thats some lame bullshit!!!
ptk4life 3 months ago
@sheppo32 which is why Marquez lost. Pacman is not gonna just hand over the belt. you have to take it.
sparkymike83 3 months ago
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MARQUEZ DIRTY TACTICS AGAINTS PACQUIAO......
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honeychaster 3 months ago
you need to take the belt away from the champ... pacquiao was aggressive all throughout.
sparkymike83 3 months ago
there was an awkward moment where pacquiao had the interview with mario lopez he looked really sad and bob arum then tried 2 cheer him up but pac was still sad ..that was making me sad but then again imagine how jmm must have felt
C10shevrolay 3 months ago
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Maybe you should also check, that Marquez cheated by stepping on to Pacquiao's feet several times(I think 6 times). Very tricky and unmanly conduct!
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Round and Time Mark.
Foot Step Part 1 = 4th Round last 11 seconds
Foot Step Part 2 = 6th Round last 1:18 seconds
Foot Step Part 3 = 7th Round last 1:49 seconds
Foot Step Part 4 = 8th Round last 1:27 seconds
Foot Step Part 5 = 12th Round last 1:23 seconds
Foot Step Part 6 = 12th Round last 52 seconds
viraljunemagdamit 3 months ago
bob arum is delusional. shit wouldnt set the record for the manny vs. marquez fights. why would i want to watch another robbery?
YoungTon22 3 months ago
Anyone noticed the background music HBO played to cover up for the booing? LMFAO!!!! Deception!!!
mirellale 3 months ago
'YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BOXING"
HAHA. THAT SEEMS LIKE THE TYPICAL FLOMO QUOTE. DO YOU GUYS ALWAYS LIKE TO QUOTE ROGER MAYWEATHER? MAYBE WHEN YOU CAN THINK FOR YOURSELF I'LL CONSIDER LISTENING TO WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. GET A LIFE LOSER.
djswag8 3 months ago
@djswag8 Your the typical pactard who doesn't know shit about boxing! I can tell you don't know shit about boxing! It has nothing to do with roger mayweather and everything to do with the fact that most of you pactards if not all of you pactards don't know shit about boxing! If you do show me what you know about boxing!
sallah098 3 months ago
This is the reason why i stoped watching Boxing for a long time , its all a show full of corrupt people , how can they say that pacquiao won? unbelievable! all mexican fighters should boicot vegas , its not the first time this hapens , but its the more obvious and clearer example of the corruption , Canelo , chavez Jr . morales , arce please step up and say something and stop fighting in las vegas ,untill they do something about this FROUDS! PACQUIAO WAS OUTCLASSED! NO DOUBTH.
mulato1978 3 months ago 2
Floyd Mayweather:"Bob Arum should be banned from boxing for good!"
BRmana100 3 months ago
@sanjaysrevoIutions Because IS the same commission that doesn't punish this kind of ROBBERY!!
alenelv 3 months ago
@sanjaysrevoIutions DIsagree, isn't the same, the last one was obviously SUPERIOR in every aspect, taking into account that JMM is a total complete technical boxer, an expert counterpuncher and a born natural knocker, not to mention his intelligence. I'm accord that the philipino is a natural fast skilled puncher, I used to respect him, but a man that was obviously beaten and don't accept his loose, just can't be named a man for me.
alenelv 3 months ago
@sanjaysrevoIutions "but if pacs that easy for floyd, why is floyd asking for extra blood loss tests? especially while the boxing commission has there own tests?" Are you serious? WTF!
mexrider1 3 months ago
@sanjaysrevoIutions The NSAC's drug testing standard is about 40 years out of date! They're still doing the same tests on fighters they did for Hagler-Hearns!! People have been criticising the drug standards in boxing for years and if you boxed a round in your life youd know how many fighters there are out there who use PEDs. Hell Freddie Roach had at least 2 fighters in his own stable who were caught with roids! Come ON man. Are you serious? People die in this sport for fucks sake. jesus
Kidbox45 3 months ago
That's all because manny kO'ed ricky "sleeping" hatton on the canvass.. fuckin racist.. hahaha... better luck next time brothers..
nhappy11 3 months ago
Marquez put on a masterclass
BlackMessiahX 3 months ago
@sanjaysrevoIutions Man Ive been sayin pac was a fraud ever since the fuckin de la hoya fight. He made dlh come down to a fuckin weight he hadnt made in a decade. His corner have always been looking for advantages and pairing him up with guys who suit his style, coming off of losses and weight drained. He has held 3 fuckin belts at catchweights. FLOYD ASKED FOR A RANDOM BLOOD TEST. Manny is a global athlete and he refused a fuckin roid test. and youre defending him... seriously
Kidbox45 3 months ago
@sanjaysrevoIutions barrera beat hamed because hamed was another overhyped dude just like pacquiao who, for his whole career, avoided barrera and morales who were the two top guys in the division. He had little defensive skills, fast hands and gr8 power, looked flashy and tricked people into believing he was the shit just like Pacquiao- only difference is Pacquiao has Bob arum who is a MASTER of that art. Barrera made it big by beating Hamed and Pac got to him after him after he was past it
Kidbox45 3 months ago
@Kidbox45 Mexicans!!! QUE VIVA MÉXICO!!!
alenelv 3 months ago
@sanjaysrevoIutions no offence but if you thought that was a draw you should have gone to specsavers
mrwoodify 3 months ago 10
@mrwoodify Totally AGREE!!!
alenelv 3 months ago
MARQUEZ WAS NOT ROBBED. IT'S A FACT JUDGES TEND TO FAVOR THE GUY WHO IS PRESSING THE ACTION. MARQUEZ WAS BACK PEDALLING FOR MOST OF THE ROUNDS. IF PACQUIAO DIDN'T COME IN THEY WOULD BE DANCING ALL NIGHT. WATCH THE FIGHT AGAIN. YOU'LL SEE MANNY IS THE AGGRESSOR THROUGHOUT THE FIGHT. MARQUEZ PULLED BACK THE LAST FEW ROUNDS AND THAT'S WHY HE LOST.
djswag8 3 months ago
@djswag8 bla bla bla bla bla bla, desperate pactard
Kidbox45 3 months ago
@djswag8 Aggression without effectiveness doesn't win you a fight in a real boxing match. Only a person that know nothing about boxing would think that doing aggressive make you win a fight. Pac may have throw and landed slightly more punches, but most of the punches WERE NOT clean, hard shots. Most of Marquez punches WERE clean, hard shots. Marquez controlled the pace of the fight. Marquez clearly won that fight.
Your comment revealed that you know nothing about the sport of boxing.
zarbon700 3 months ago
@zarbon700 Cheers for your comment, my friend!!
alenelv 3 months ago
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'YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BOXING"
HAHA. THAT SEEMS LIKE THE TYPICAL FLOMO QUOTE. DO YOU GUYS ALWAYS LIKE TO QUOTE ROGER MAYWEATHER? MAYBE WHEN YOU CAN THINK FOR YOURSELF I'LL CONSIDER LISTENING TO WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. GET A LIFE LOSER.@zarbon700
djswag8 3 months ago
@djswag8 YOU SOUND LIKE ANOTHER PACMAN DICK RIDER, MARQUEZ CAME OUT THE GATE THROWING COMBOS
MrQuimane 3 months ago
this 3 british commentators need to watch the fight again and review bring there own score cards they will see rounds 1- 3-4-5- 9--11-12 for pacquiao 2-6-7-8-10 for marquez
SuperGlaiza18 3 months ago
@SuperGlaiza18 where can u watch the fight again online?
TheRealness180 3 months ago
@sanjaysrevoIutions Youre desperately fighting a losing battle my friend,all the evidence is stacked against this dude. We finally have an opportunity to rehabilitate boxing by exposing these corrupt aspects of the game that ruin the sport, and idiots like you are sat over somewhere in the UK still defending Manny Pacquiao and his entire team at Top Rank. Boxing is about hit and dont be hit.Marquez landed the more effective punches and controlled the pace of the fight. he won. no 2 ways about it
Kidbox45 3 months ago
@Kidbox45 And you didnt address any of the points I made neither because you have nothing to say, so I know youre a fanboy that doesnt know shit about the sport.
Kidbox45 3 months ago
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oh come on guys watch the replay of the fight you will see manny really won it!!!!even the hbo commentators saying the pacman is ahead in there score cards while they are still fighting they know pacman is ahead...its just that the expectation of many that they thought pacman will dominate dinamita but marquez give pacquiao heard time and be different to other fighter pacman fought but clearly i mean CLEARLY the pacman won it
SuperGlaiza18 3 months ago
@sanjaysrevoIutions everything you said in that post was bullshit word for word. He obviously struggled with more fighters than marquez cos he lost to morales when he was already over the hill, lost and drew 3 other fights. Manny pacquiao has asked for an entire list of things that arent within the rules of boxing. Are fight night weigh-ins in the rules? Are rehydration clauses in the commission rules? also, If weight classes dont mean much then i guess his 8 world titles dont mean shit.
Kidbox45 3 months ago
@sanjaysrevoIutions BOLLOCKS. EASY FIGHT FOR MARQUEZ. YOU ARE STUPID
jummacob 3 months ago
so Bob arum is bound and determine for manny and marquez to fight in MAY.... i thought money mayweather was holding the fight up???
stevelovesgod 3 months ago
@sanjaysrevoIutions Manny Pacquiao is the most media-hyped paper champ in the history of boxing bar none. To think that up until a year ago they were comparing this man to Henry Armstrong, Roberto Duran and SRR. ARE YOU SERIOUS?? AND, I wont even go into the whole steroid argument, moving up 4 weight clases in under 2 years and suddenly breaking faces, refusing drug tests, Catchweights, rehydration clauses and shit. Seriously how are you even defending this man? You should be a ashamed man
Kidbox45 3 months ago
@sanjaysrevoIutions any skilled boxer who doesnt stand still and just take punches and that is not weight drained is manny's negative buddy. Thats why Morales and Marquez BOTH beat his ass.Thats why the fighters he looked best against are weight-drained, flat footed washed up bums like clottey, Hatton, Margarito, De la Hoya and Mosely. We saw him fight a guy who is way past his prime at 38, at a weight he only fought at once and got clearly and cleanly outboxed. if you dont see that u in denial
Kidbox45 3 months ago 16
@Kidbox45 / people was saying Marquez is washed up before this fight so whats your point?........ he just proved that some fighters handle age differently so you mean to tell me your logic is right because you thunk it?....... yeah JMM is older now but so is Pacquiao and no trilogy will happen if the first two fights were never close at all?....... styles make fights and their styles are a good match up. I bet you werent saying delahoya was drained before the fight / hatton / or even Marg.
vinamel97 3 months ago
@vinamel97 Hell yes I was.
Kidbox45 3 months ago
@Kidbox45 No need to see the superfight. Any Mayweather fight is boring anyway, including a fight with Manny.
zatoichiable 3 months ago
@zatoichiable Mayweather's last 2 fights have been more entertaining than any of Manny's last 6
Kidbox45 3 months ago
@Kidbox45 I agree. He clearly said he created 24/7.
zatoichiable 3 months ago
@sanjaysrevoIutions and i could tell just by lookin at your page that youre just a fanboy of manny pacquiao so dont hide who you are bud
Kidbox45 3 months ago
@sanjaysrevoIutions well it werent on saturday, buddy, sorry. You have your opinion, I respect that. But youre in a very small minority consisting mostly of philippinos. And that is a fact not an opinion
Kidbox45 3 months ago
Arum and Pacquiao dont want the fight with Floyd.
Lopez: 'Would you like to fight him (Mayweather) if the schedule permits come May'?
Pacquiao: 'On May i don't know i don't know it depends thats uh Bob Arums job, i'm going back to the Phillipines to do some work in the office'
And look at how Arum eagerly says that he's setting up a 4th Marquez fight. They also dodged questions about a Floyd fight in the post fight presser lol...
M4UH50J 3 months ago