motivation

[VAWAhorrors]

Google: Martha Laura Granados Immigration Prostitute

The VAWA Immigration Loop-hole:

If you are a woman, pretend to be in love with a US citizen / Legal Resident, deceive him to marry you. As soon as you got the marriage certificate dial 211 and falsely accuse him of Domestic Violence and Rape and move to a VAWA shelter.

You will be on a fast-track for a Green-Card and US citizenship - all expenses paid for by the US tax payer and as a bonus you will be getting full social benefits.

[VAWAhorrors]

1. Give Women Voting Rights

2. Give Women Equal Rights

3. Give Women Extra Rights

4. Give Women Extra Protection... from Men

5. Hear only Women and Ignore Men

6. Believe Women only and Treat men as Perpetrators

7. Let Women Falsely Accuse Men without Consequences

8. Encourage Women to be Helpless Victims and to think of All Men as Rapists

9. Encourage False Accusations by Women (VAWA) and Punish Innocent Men

10. ...Watch Women Destroy Men, the Family and Society !!!

[ericloulou283]

I fully agree with everything you say but till the majority of men decide to stand up and do something about it nothing will ever happen. The reason why they have so much more rights and benefits than us, is because they do not give up and they do not stop till they get what they want. A quality most men don't have. They are oppressing us because of our own laziness.

Anyway, keep on doing what you do and hopefully one day we will get off our couches and fight for the real equality between sex!

[factory2590]

@ericloulou283 It's easy to not stop until you get what you want when half the world jumps out of its seat before you even finish the request..

Chivalry, not persistence, is what advanced the goals of Feminism. Without the willingness and complicity of most of the powerful men of the day, Feminism would have been dead in the water....

[esepc40991]

@ericloulou283 I don't see laziness. I see the "man creed". That is "Don't complain, adapt". In other words, the very nature of men is to withstand adversity. Instead of changing what's there, we adapt to it. That's why a movement should help. with a bit of momentum, guys will realize this isn't something they have to adapt to. And to me, that's good for both genders. Men will be much more willing to partake in women's rights when they don't feel as discriminated by them.

[brendubab]

Factory

Thanks for standing up for men. Our inner thoughts and feelings our expressed by you. Factory you speak the truth. Canada should be proud.

[MrSuperJuden]

you shouldn't have to have made this video.

[kennylippiatt]

It's atrocious the amount of flak you receive for making these videos, if not it only shows how these anti-male ideals have been perpetrated into modern society and taught to children at a very young age. To continue to have to defend yourself against this onslaught takes courage, more power to you. To be honest i'm sick of always being the bad guy as well.

[lyriclex]

want them back? what exactly does that mean?

[factory2590]

I'm old enough to remember what women were like before things got this way, women today do not measure up...at all...

That's all I need to say on the subject.

[lyriclex]

oh, so you want them to be how they were 'in the old days'.

have they really chaged that much...I mean to me the vast majority of people still seem conservative and very much into gender roles. unless you mean VERY strict gender roles, you want those back?

[factory2590]

You're pretty fucked up if you think I would discuss these things with YOU (yes, emphasis on the particular individual).

[lyriclex]

lol why not? it's not like I asked you something personal. I just aksed if people have really changed THAT much.

[unassumption]

Looking at lyriclex's videos I assume he's gay; considering the topic is gender nonconformity, are you against gay rights? Or is this person just a troll?

[lyriclex]

your daughters must be REALLY proud of your vidoes [sarcasm]

[factory2590]

Bring up my family again, and you're gone. No warnings.

[Barklord]

hopefully they'll understand why they SHOULD be proud of their dad.

[narcissistinchains]

I get it, Factory, I really do. I want them (some of them) back as well. Let me just say for the record that no man LIKES hating or bearing feelings of contempt towards women, because it is not in our nature to live like that. We are supposed to exist side by side and be peaceful; life will throw a lot of shit at you, the last thing you need is problems with the opposite sex, particularly when that opposite sex is supposedly-- as you have fabulously stated prior-- ripe with sympathy and feeling.

[Gogonostop]

You are making a difference. I take heart from knowing you're out there saying things that need to be said. Lets me know I'm not alone.

[ndependenthinkr]

Sorry I don't mean to take up all the space here but I talk alot. :0(

[ndependenthinkr]

Again, the only answer I can come up with is, women have been taught to compete with men because what they do is held to a higher value. It's one of the first things I learned in middle school...men's jobs are better and pay more and you can do them too! And that was 17 years ago! No doubt women have done some shitty things to men, I could sit here and give you a layout but why waste you time and mine. I know this because I talk to them, and hear their ploting....I'm so glad I date men!

[acadiantunes]

I don't think motherhood was that devalued in the past and i don't think "the average" man's job was valued that much. It's usually the men that do the hardest and most dangerous jobs that get praised more and paid more but what is the end result? they work like dogs in brutal environments, get hurt or killed on the job,they become alcoholics, they die earlier and they give that extra money they make to their families. That's real male power in a nutshell.

[acadiantunes]

I've also noticed that some feminists say motherhood has no value and others say that motherhood is the hardest and most valuable job in the world, WTF?? My opinion is that men have always valued and respected women in many ways. Chilvalry was a sign of respect, bowing to a woman, taking your hat off etc. Women were also praised as good mothers, good cooks etc. Women were seen as innocent, more godly, seen like angels [especially the cute ones LOL ].

[acadiantunes]

Women have always been advantaged in many ways but feminism only sees how women are disadvantaged . If feminism had recognized women's advantages and men's disadvantaged it would have been a more fair, balanced and respected movement. Like i said in my first post, we praise and respect men in ways but that doesn't necessarily equal personal power.

[ndependenthinkr]

One more question.....if men don't find motherhood ie..cleaning, cooking, giving birth attractive and women want to be with men...why would we want to be mothers? WHY wouldn't we want to compete with you? Now I can't explain why women do the things they do to make themselves unattracive, because I don't get shitfaced and puke in the middle of the street in Cancun...and ride dicks till I die.

[factory2590]

What you are missing is that men view stay home moms as potentilly huge financial liabilities. If she don't work, you gotta pay even more. Kids also equal huge bills if things go south.

All of which was fought for, hard, by feminists. And it is doing EXACTLY what feminists intended, which is to "price women out of the market" when it comes to stable, long term relationships.

A stated goal of feminism for decades.

(cont)

[factory2590]

Along come MRA's, who point out the problems coming from these policies and the basic inequality inherent in some feminist rhetoric. Politely.

We pretty much expected that our points would be taken seriously and debated. Instead, we (and our arguments) were laughed at, accused of misogyny, and dismissed with contempt.

So we (some of us), became a little angrier..

Now, it is patently obvious that we will not be taken seriously, ever, by being polite.

(cont)

[factory2590]

What is going on now, in feminist circles, is purely damage control.

"That's not my brand of Feminism" means no one can be held accountable, and nothing can change as far as basic attitudes...and it's utter hogwash to boot, since nearly every egregious thing done to men was justified via Patriarchy Theory, which is basic to Feminism of every stripe.

And Patriarchy Theory(tm) is code speak for "Men", and there are precious few people who don't know that.

(cont)

[factory2590]

Which shows the basic sexism of Feminism.

Which I oddly enough do not have a problem with.

What I do have a problem with is that these same sexists try to tell me what "equality" means, they try to control the debate, hell, they even try to control the attitude and demeanour of those that oppose them.

Totalitarianism anyone?

(cont)

[factory2590]

Now, I have no problem with wanting to self-identify as one of these bigots, any than I would with someone who wants to be a KKK or Black Panthers member (although it certainly speaks to their character).

But I think Feminism is a blight on society, much like if David Duke was given free reign over law and policy. It needs to be blown apart, the stranglehold on debate MUST be loosed, and I don't care if it makes me look "rude" to fight that.

Pure and simple.

[factory2590]

Really, the point is that we shouldn't have to defend our position simply because it disagrees with that of feminists.

Especially how thoroughly fucked up society is because of Feminism and Political Correctness.

[ndependenthinkr]

Now I'm generalizing....but as a woman...I want to be recognized for the work I do...and this day and age...I know very few men who honor motherhood as an occupation. It's seen as disgusting, unattractive and undesirable. Women are turning away from it because men don't find it attractive that's the best explaination I can come up with because sometimes that's the way I feel. I would love to explain further, but 500 charater limits suck.

[factory2590]

I guess that depends on who you are looking to for approval. Men don't generally have issue with that path (minus justified fears of being taken for a ride).

It's Women, and generally Feminist women, who look down on motherhood.

And yet, Feminism is "good for women".

*cough*Bullshit*cough*

[ndependenthinkr]

LOL, I should probably make it clear that i am not a feminist...I have a few of the same beliefs, I just don't have the male hate propaganda. Now I've been told by men that motherhood is not attractive, not by feminists...and this is where I came to my conclusion. I'd like to pose a question to the men here....do you find motherhood attractive...???? Do you think women deserve to be honor for the comfortable home they create???

[factory2590]

I think it's fairly obvious that I share quite a few beliefs with feminism as well. But I also point out the other side and call bullshit when it's due...

I am the reflection of what has been dealt to men. I didn't start out angry, I got that way after watching the reaction women have to men having any kind of problems at all.

namely, whining at best, and reason to avoid at all costs at worst.

Never the empathy or compassion women are "famous" for.

So, this....

[jdcremin]

How could a husband find the mother of his child unnatractive? Its the family unit as one that is attractive to us. You're talking about a small minority of shallow men. I'd call them sociopaths actually - choosing to fullfill animal desires over your children's mental health and happiness for a new girlfriend experience- not a fully developed person in my book. And there is no difference b/t housewife and ...doctor,lawyer,pilot - all jobs are BS.

[heyyoubeindthebushes]

Have to comply, brilliant ending line.

[factory2590]

Thanks. Hopefully it resonates because it's true.

[ndependenthinkr]

I like it when you say you want us back. ;0)

[factory2590]

Why wouldn't I? Women are amazing and fun and soft and interesting and frustrating and endlessly fascinating.

I enjoy women's company immensly and crave it continuously (ok, not that much, but close).

Why they want to make themselves as thoroughly undesireable as possible and make men "work" to be with them is beyond me.

Especially given how low women have sunk.

Sorry, but it's true.

[ndependenthinkr]

The only explaination that I can give to you as to why women, "make themselves as thoroughly undesireable" is because socially our value is seen as lower than a man's. Now I'm talking about taking care of a home, mothering vs. the work of a police officer or fireman...a job that man would have. In order to earn your respect we must compete with you, and win. We get no recognition or medals of honor for changing diapers and providing our children with a decent meal.

[factory2590]

I'm sorry I missed this post in the past. I think this is a good starting point for another video....

[ndependenthinkr]

Gosh darling that was like 4 months ago!!LOL I'm not sure which of my posts you were responding to...let me know...I'd give you more insight on it if you need it.

[factory2590]

I'm sure variations on the theme will surface from time to time. There's a video that starts to address this topic now...

[tom181071]

Factory2590, you may be the most insightful MRA, but I think this vid falls into myth/standpoint that women are making things steadily worst for men (you mention in the last 50 years for instance). 50 years ago, you would, as a progressive MRA, been much more frustrated at women's inhumanity to man (and men's too). They were virtually all housewhore wannabes back then, and it was not even questioned. At least now, SOME women feel beholden to egalitarian expectation - some feminists.

[factory2590]

Well, I actually disagree with your take on things. I would say it's more that women enjoy the choices they have, but don't want men to enjoy those same choices, because doing so would "hurt" women (ie, women wouldn't be able to do what they want with no consequences).

So, a selfish desire to maintain power over men is really the only reason to not support Men's Rights. It's also the impetus behind Patriarchy Theory.

[centreline67]

I wonder why those men in power in the "patriarchy" pass the unequal laws that cause men pain, particularly in regards to child custody. Is is simply that women are organised with their feminist movement and can therefore cost the politicians votes and power, or that they really believe the feminist crap and that it's all "progressive". Because they just do not show any sign of caring one bit about the incredible damage they cause, not just to huge numbers of individual men but society itself.

[tom181071]

FEMINIST Wendy McElroy agrees, 'choices for women' should be 'broadened' to include men, whilst conservative antifeminist Melanie Phillips wrote 'Men need work; women need choices... .' I am frustrated by the time lag of men's rights gains behind women's, perpetually upsetting relative to women's rights advances, but progress nevertheless, and the time lag can be closed with activism. Have men's choices really narrowed in the last 50 years? Please give me some examples of less choices for men.

[mensrightsmovement]

Although I appreciate your efforts, here's the bottom line: I don't support Feminists. And, I will not be tricked into showing support for them. It's the oldest trick in the book. The Feminists are seeking ways to weasle their way into the mainstream. And, they'll try any method which works effectively. So, I REFUSE to accept "Wendy McElroy. INSTEAD, I give my support to MEN'S RIGHTS GROUPS. sincerely, -Seth.

[tom181071]

Feminisms are historically the normative state .Wendy McElroy is pro men's rights 'i-feminist', so IMO, it'd be wise to work with her. If YOU aim to delineate where no cogent differences arise on the key topics, merely on basis of gender identity, then you are sex segregating, which perpetuates increased brain capacity for aggression, and decreases for higher thought (New Scientist, 2007) - the oldest TRADITIONALLY female trick. So 'i-feminist' Wendy needs rebrand too, but without adversary?

[factory2590]

Quite frankly, Wendy is yet another of the feminists who feel that they are the ones who TRULY know what is fair for men.

Bollocks.

Wendy writes what she does, and advocates what she does. She has ZERO influence on me and what I think and what I want out of this activism. She does have a wider readership though...:)

The point is, no, I do NOT have to do a damn thing, or give anyone props. Wendy or anyone else.

This here is for me and anyone who cares to listen. That's it.

[tom181071]

Okay. How have men's choices diminished, or been discouraged even, compared to 50 years ago? Being unable to get effective consent for sex with over drunk women a poss loss of rights in UK. No drop dv arrest of man being dropped. Crime of passion murder defense removed for men AND women. Misandric representations of men (in sitcoms at least) have remained constant over last 50 years (but not worse). Pos discrimin in hiring STARTING to work both ways. i.e. male teacher push, so what else?

[pinegrove33]

I forgot to tell you before I think you do really good work. Keep it up brother!

[factory2590]

Thanks a lot. I'll try and do a few more sometime soon.

[SpazzDog]

I know we bumped heads earlier, but I really do like your videos. You're not alone in these sort of observations, I've seen them too. I sometimes feel like I'm crazy when I'm the only one who can see this sort of stuff happening and others don't get it. It helps knowing there are other people out there who can see through the filter programmed into us by society and see the same cultural trends that I can see.

[factory2590]

We're all subject to the twisting imposed by our culture. We all deal in different ways, but there's not many men who aren't affected negatively in some way.

One of the ways this tends to manifest is in a suspicion and fear of "strangers", and in defensiveness.

I am guilty as much as the next guy.

Now, it's time to try and heal society by cutting out the cancer of Feminism, and Political Correctness.

[jdcremin]

Whatever you do, don't attempt to say anything to young girls. I was pulling my son in a wagon a few weeks ago (it was the last day of school for the older kids in the neighborhood); I passed 3 girls coming home from school and said, "Alright, last day of school huh"? i mas met with silence and gaze avoidance. That's where we are - aevery man is a threat. The moms would be proud of these girls I'm sure; dads too.

[revemupman]

lol. I don't even go near schools.

Men are precieved as predators and if you look suspect they will question you. If you see a school walk past it quickly especially if all the kids are leaving. If you stay in one spot for more than 5 mins. You're a pedo to every mother picking their children up.

[patr333x]

The people who call you a hater really have issues with you not being compliant. Misandrists do not want their self-appointed authority questioned. They don't see the other point of view because they don't think there is another view.

[factory2590]

VERY well put pat333x!

That's exactly it.

[Truth0rDeath]

Feminists are MISANDRISTS. The opposite of misogynists. That is, they are haters of men, quite literally.

I'm no misogynist but I'm not exactly "equal minded" either. That is, I believe men are superior to women and always will be by nature. Women simply have more limitations when compared to men on an equal playing field. I don't hate them for that. They don't NEED to be equal to men.

If women want to claim they are equals, they have to back it up. After 40+ years, they have not.

[factory2590]

Oh I believe women are equal to men alright. I just think it's time they were MADE to accept the same level of responsibility.

Because, as men have seen, responsibility CAN be forced out of a person...all it takes is Jail, threats, social castigation, demonization, and hate-filled propaganda.

Frankly, I'd be fine doing all that if nothing else works.

Fuck 'em, they had their chance to help.

[sirskeptic]

I used to feel that I was the only one putting up a fight.

Thank god for the internet.

A while ago I sent a large package of real research on domestic violence to every Australian senator. (cost me a bundle) In the cover letter I pointed out that about 50% of domestic violence perpetrators were female and about 80% of child abusers were.

By enforcing a paradigm that only males hit, we let so many abusive women off the hook.

Keep up the good fight.

[factory2590]

Thanks, I think I will. :)

[heyyoubeindthebushes]

As a like minded Australian I'd be very interested to know how your little letter writting campaign went down, and any other insights you may have on how these issues as they relate to Australia directly.

Most of my attention is focused on the USA.

[sirskeptic]

I've sent out the letters a couple of times. I got replies from about 10% of senators and about the same percentage of current affairs shows.

The television shows said that they weren't interrested in stories like that.

Most of the senators stated that it was proper that only female DV could get help as there were much more of them, (like only males being able to recieve heart surgery - haha).

Only one senator agreed with me and urged me to become more active about it - Nick Xenophon.

[centreline67]

I think there's two levels to the abusive attitude against men. There's the "alliance made in hell" between feminists and the "patriarchy" they whine about which pass the laws disempowering men in divorce court and child custody. Then there's the brain washing level in the universities, media, TV comedies and dramas that inform men how of how abusive/bad/needing to shape up they are. It adds up to a war on ordinary guys and it's totally abusive.

Men in response are barely allowed to breathe.

[factory2590]

I think you hit the nail right on the head.

We need to fight for air, or we'll end up smothered.

No matter how much they smile and smooth our hair.

[centreline67]

Yup it's all about being heard. However in western societies most people aren't interested in what feminists or MRAs have to say, they just don't care. It's only if they hit trouble in their life (child custody court for example) that they start to think but even then most don't become active in trying to change things. So it's all actually about whose making the laws, that's where the struggle is and at the moment the poor little oppressed feminists have that all sown up.

[factory2590]

The laws can only be passed if people are too ignorant or afraid to oppose them.

Education is the key. If men get angry in the process, so much the better.

Speaking up is THE most important thing a man can do. It should be easy, after all standing up for oneself is supposed to be a male virtue.

I just hope it hasn't been beaten entirely out of us yet.

[Joyness333]

The problem with the world today, is that we see it in a more abstract way than we used to. This makes it easier to detatch ourselves and judge. We make sweeping statements, and see a group only how we want to see it, often focusing only on its negative aspects. We seem to have this need to criticize something, always, perhaps it is to deflect from ourselves. I say the antagonist has taken place of motivation. It just seems that all of this fighting and blaming is futile isn't it?

[factory2590]

No, it's not. Men NEED to start fighting back. And women / feminists only call for an "end to the hostilities" because they have precious little to gain, but a lot to lose, in continued "hostilities".

Men need, and I mean need, to start fighting back. Because women have shown quite well that they will not look after men's needs, nor even care about them at all, and somebody sure has to.

Feminists have been saying for years "If you think it's so bad, then change it".....well, we are.

[Joyness333]

You seem to think I'm disagreeing with you, or that I'm trying to have a gender debate, which was not my intention. I am not saying that men shouldn't fight for their rights, I am merely saying that the fight should be objective and not trickle into their personal views of an entire gender, which seems to be happening these days from both sides. Women too.

[factory2590]

Ah, I see. Then you don't know the back story. I've been saying this was going to happen for around 8 years now - easy since it was plainly obvious it was already happening.

Feminists seem to take the notion that men are all pliable and weak, and will do as their told. At least, that was the attitude I got from them....for years.

Only now, when men are getting SOME attention, do feminists suddenly want to "play nice".

F.u.c.k. That.

[AzureEyesD]

Another good video. Keep them coming Factory.

[factory2590]

Thanks. I feel prolific these days I guess.. :)

[Shaitan051]

"Thanks for listening" No, thank you for posting. I hope you're not serious about quitting, I just found you and you're significantly more coherent then some of the MRAs around here. At the end of the day you have at least ONE fan.

[factory2590]

Oh, I'm not quitting this. I'm "done" being nice...that's all. Done with the bullshit.