Doping in and of itself isn't a big deal. Sooner or later, most sports programs will be affluent enough that all athletes will be doped to some exent. It's OVER-doping that has caused problems, in addition to lack of sufficient testing and safety protocols.
As far as I'm concerned, the GDR paved the way for the future of sports.
I'll go out on a limb a say this case will probably never close until the world records are gone, steroids have ruined athletics, if when we see a brilliant performance or world record automatically people will say that person must be on something and it's all because of that era in sport.
Stalinism is a evil and inhuman system. Lies and lies they spread and those lies were very well used by the anticommunist western governments. Those poor people were abused by their state, they believed in a fair en good ideology. The criminals of the GDR were not the ordinary SED members, but the members of the KZ ( Central Committee )
Walter Ulbricht and Erich Honecker, you will forever be traitors of Marxism and enemies of the German workers.
it wasn't just east germany that used to force their athletes to use steroids during the 70's and 80's. the USA to compete with the Soviet Union was just as bad as East Germany with many of their athletes using performing inhancing drugs.
@tharuntheman Do you care to put forth any proof??? Otherwise I would advise you to keep your mouth shut. BTW, we didn't have to cheat, we proved we were better. Look at the hockey gold medal game at Lake Placid in 1980.
@anaihilator True. I was just refuting his/her claim that US was/is engaged in systematic cheating. Yes Marion Jones, along with some other track and field athletes, did cheat but it was not an edict from on high as it was in the former East Germany.
@tripleheshy You have got your head in the sand. We cheated as heavily as the GDR in the 80's in all sports but especially in athletics, 50 athletes tested positive in the 1984 olympics trails ... 34 at the games, it was all covered up. Many of these were working with east german coaches (on their drug programs).
Very sad and unfortunate for the world reknowm east german 'sport factories' that produced many well known DDR world class athletes! Shame that this is the FINAL RESULT-many serious side affects to prolonged steroid use!!!
@bigalziemba How old are u? The side effects are dramatic... and in fact there are a lot of studies google is your friend. It is not ridiculous at all. If u don't have a clue just shut up. Keywords are: Hormonal doping and androgenization of athletes: a secret program of the German Democratic Republic government
@therealOG328 U r pulling my rockhard leg, aren't u?Dramatic changes on cardiovascular system, tumors in artery, liver, kidney, massive calcification, depressions etc. Don't be too lazy, google is your friend. But maybe u r right no human really needs a heart, liver, kidney. It's never been reviewed.
Doping in and of itself isn't a big deal. Sooner or later, most sports programs will be affluent enough that all athletes will be doped to some exent. It's OVER-doping that has caused problems, in addition to lack of sufficient testing and safety protocols.
As far as I'm concerned, the GDR paved the way for the future of sports.
Tokopol 1 week ago
Is any body surprised, that these coaches are not sorry. They are not the victims, but these swimmers and track and field stars are.
TheCopper05 4 months ago
I'll go out on a limb a say this case will probably never close until the world records are gone, steroids have ruined athletics, if when we see a brilliant performance or world record automatically people will say that person must be on something and it's all because of that era in sport.
idontsignin 4 months ago
the olympic games are nothing but empty vaccuums for people to hunt endlessly for the illusions called fame and glory
XLnotsofunny 1 year ago
Stalinism is a evil and inhuman system. Lies and lies they spread and those lies were very well used by the anticommunist western governments. Those poor people were abused by their state, they believed in a fair en good ideology. The criminals of the GDR were not the ordinary SED members, but the members of the KZ ( Central Committee )
Walter Ulbricht and Erich Honecker, you will forever be traitors of Marxism and enemies of the German workers.
UDSS 1 year ago
it wasn't just east germany that used to force their athletes to use steroids during the 70's and 80's. the USA to compete with the Soviet Union was just as bad as East Germany with many of their athletes using performing inhancing drugs.
tharuntheman 1 year ago 3
@tharuntheman Do you care to put forth any proof??? Otherwise I would advise you to keep your mouth shut. BTW, we didn't have to cheat, we proved we were better. Look at the hockey gold medal game at Lake Placid in 1980.
tripleheshy 1 year ago
@tripleheshy if the us doped it just means that all things being equal, he hockey team was still better.
anaihilator 1 year ago
@anaihilator True. I was just refuting his/her claim that US was/is engaged in systematic cheating. Yes Marion Jones, along with some other track and field athletes, did cheat but it was not an edict from on high as it was in the former East Germany.
tripleheshy 1 year ago
@tripleheshy You have got your head in the sand. We cheated as heavily as the GDR in the 80's in all sports but especially in athletics, 50 athletes tested positive in the 1984 olympics trails ... 34 at the games, it was all covered up. Many of these were working with east german coaches (on their drug programs).
shottut 1 year ago
Very sad and unfortunate for the world reknowm east german 'sport factories' that produced many well known DDR world class athletes! Shame that this is the FINAL RESULT-many serious side affects to prolonged steroid use!!!
farwayout 2 years ago 5
True, it is ridiculous. Its just lies to demean the DDR even more
SEFARAD2K4 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@SEFARAD2K4 You're joking right??
tripleheshy 1 year ago
Comment removed
bigalziemba 2 years ago
@bigalziemba How old are u? The side effects are dramatic... and in fact there are a lot of studies google is your friend. It is not ridiculous at all. If u don't have a clue just shut up. Keywords are: Hormonal doping and androgenization of athletes: a secret program of the German Democratic Republic government
rhoschdeHH 1 year ago 5
@rhoschdeHH side effects are dramatic for girls because it turns them into guys. for guys its really not that bad.
therealOG328 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@therealOG328 U r pulling my rockhard leg, aren't u?Dramatic changes on cardiovascular system, tumors in artery, liver, kidney, massive calcification, depressions etc. Don't be too lazy, google is your friend. But maybe u r right no human really needs a heart, liver, kidney. It's never been reviewed.
rhoschdeHH 1 year ago
krank scheiße
gottsein234 2 years ago