@ALBIONTYKE All languages in Europe? How about Finnish and Hungarian? A wiser man than me (and there are many) told me they are Finno-Ugric and akin to Siberian - unrelated and unlinked to Indo-European. Am I being picky, or just plain wrong? Or are there some European languages that aren't 'all linked'? You seem knowledgeable, so I'm interested. Perhaps I should scout around for linguistic fora instead of porn, for a change!
BTW I'm Cornish, but my granny was from Lancashire! :-P
@Shropshireladdie look at the comments on youtube alone the amount of people who make vitriolic comments telling us we are English,thats why we keep going on about being Cornish in the hopes that they might listen and understand
Ive never seen them, some English people are a bit miffed about constant blaiming of us for the collapse of industry in cornwall, to be honest my dad were a miner and we lost income at the same time as you did, plus if we didnt pop down to sunny cornwall for holidays i dont know how you'd manage finacially.
@Shropshireladdie Industry is one small point it's about recogniton the fact that Kernow is not an English county but a seperate country like Wales with our own language and culture many people coming across the border are suprised how different Kernow is to England,the E.U recognised us as a seperate culure the only people who keep telling us we are English are the English
@avonbeg Yorkshire, Lancashire & Northumberland people are far more distinct in character than any county in the south west including Cornwall. It's all a matter of perception.To us up north you all sound like southerners. In attitude & humour your far less distinct from any other southern English people than people in the north. You have roughly the same population as say Liverpool, yet unlike Liverpool, off hand I struggle to think of any well known people in any field who hail from Cornwall !
@ALBIONTYKE you up north only speak English we also speak Kernewek which is growing all the time and most of our street signs are now in Cornish and English and as for famous people from Cornwall how about Humprey Davy ,Kristin Scott-Thomas,John Nettles,Rory Mcgrath,Mick Fleetwood,Richard Trevithick
@avonbeg So you scrape the barrel with 6 names, well better than I thought lol. If I spoke to you in broad Yorkshire you wouldn't understand a word. Further in Cumbria in the north west of England they are reviving Cumbraic, which was once spoken all over the north of England & southern Scotland. Never the less like in Cornwall very very few are fluent. There are 2 forms of Cornish because nobody really knows for sure exactly how they spoke, much of it is romantic guess work & as for your beer !
@ALBIONTYKE You confuse dialect with language.You must remember that it took two rebellions one anglo Cornish war one act of genocide by the English and a refusal of translating the common prayer book into Cornish to force the English language on us but the Cornish language did not die out and there has never been a time when Cornish was not spoken my grandfather used as many Cornish words as English there have been academic arguments on certain Cornish words but not two forms of Cornish
@avonbeg I dont confuse dialect with language at all. All languages in Europe apart from Basque are Indo-European & all linked. The language spoken by the Brythonics in what is now the British Isles prior to the Celts coming 2,000 years ago is not known, but probably related to Basque. The Brythonics were trapped in Iberia during the last Ice Age then trekked north via France, hence 90% of us are a different race to Europeans apart from Basques. Celts to Normans = max 10% of UK DNA up to 1947
@ALBIONTYKE So it is not romantic guess work there were 2000 fluent speakers in 2008 today it is estimated there are 5000 fluent speakers and the number grows all the time.Now you mention Cumbraic and good luck to them Devon has copied our flag and invented some devonshire language but does that make Devon or Cumbria a country ? I think not yet Cornwall is recognised by the European parliment as a Celtic Country with a strong idenity seperate to England
@ALBIONTYKE Also the duke of Cornwall in right of the Duchy of Cornwall is absolute owner of the soil and territorial possessions of Cornwall any were else in the UK it is the queen in right of the crown that holds this position if you die in Cornwall and you have no heirs your property passes to the Duke in right of the Duchy any were else in the uk your property would pass to the queen in right of the crown the duke owns the foreshore in Cornwall the rest of the uk the crown own the foreshore
@ALBIONTYKE If you think their are only six famous people from Cornwall do some research you might be surprised and if you knock our beer try Spingo but most don't try to say its a north against south because thats England we have more in common with the Bretons and the Welsh than we have with the English
@avonbeg Have you finished lad ? Where I come from we know how to take the piss out of each other without getting touchy.
The Brythonics who trekked from the Iberian plains represent 80% of Britain's ingeniousness dna & have been here around 7,000 years. The Celts, Halstadt & La Ten from central Europe came in 450-500AD dominated the Brythonics & gave us the Celtic family of languages. The Germanic tribes who came after that in turn dominated the Celtic led tribes excluding the West Britons.
@ALBIONTYKE We been here before I'm not touchy (most of the time) anyway what about Yorkshire and Lancashire I hear thats a good way to start an argument in the north.
@ALBIONTYKE i do post grad genetics studies....and as a welshman i should know....the first settlers were likely dark haired like the cornish,,,,,but were Pre celtic in culture (from iberian penisula )...no one is quite sure of detail as the bleeders never wrote much down :P
Whatever the truth....english sure aint that native lol so fuck the national front ;)
why do people form cornwall have to say cornish not english and all that....WE KNOW! we go on holiday to spain but we dont think the spanish are english!
if you dont want to be English then we certainly dont want you to be.
This wonderful song makes me cry everytime... Whether it's while singing it at a rugby match to spur the boys onor when my Dad and I are drunk! Can't beat a bit of good old Cornish pride!
beautiful wish it was official anthem for cornwall tis better than god save the bloody foreign queen
Pro13east 4 months ago
i blame the pixis
milolovesmusic 6 months ago
@milolovesmusic pixis on isle of mann as well :D
3tangle3 6 hours ago
What's this song called?
mwuzaji 7 months ago
@mwuzaji cornish antyhem mate
Pro13east 6 months ago
@ALBIONTYKE All languages in Europe? How about Finnish and Hungarian? A wiser man than me (and there are many) told me they are Finno-Ugric and akin to Siberian - unrelated and unlinked to Indo-European. Am I being picky, or just plain wrong? Or are there some European languages that aren't 'all linked'? You seem knowledgeable, so I'm interested. Perhaps I should scout around for linguistic fora instead of porn, for a change!
BTW I'm Cornish, but my granny was from Lancashire! :-P
HarvsPenzance 1 year ago
@HarvsPenzance lancashire in welsh is caer hirfryn - fort of the long hill (i.e. the penines ;) )
3tangle3 1 year ago
What are the words to this song?
nickkelly2 1 year ago
Albiontyke: You have Lancashire we have Devon :)
avonbeg 1 year ago
I'm sure there are plenty of proud cornish ENGLISHMEN oh yeh.
edwards21416 1 year ago
@edwards21416 Sorry just seen your home page did not realise you are a BNP supporter
avonbeg 1 year ago
Its not that we dont want to be english we are not english we are Cornish
avonbeg 1 year ago
@avonbeg
I KNOW,what i meant was nobody is forcing you to be English far from it, i only want true English people to be English not celts like yourself.
Shropshireladdie 1 year ago
@Shropshireladdie look at the comments on youtube alone the amount of people who make vitriolic comments telling us we are English,thats why we keep going on about being Cornish in the hopes that they might listen and understand
avonbeg 1 year ago
@avonbeg
Ive never seen them, some English people are a bit miffed about constant blaiming of us for the collapse of industry in cornwall, to be honest my dad were a miner and we lost income at the same time as you did, plus if we didnt pop down to sunny cornwall for holidays i dont know how you'd manage finacially.
Shropshireladdie 1 year ago
@Shropshireladdie Industry is one small point it's about recogniton the fact that Kernow is not an English county but a seperate country like Wales with our own language and culture many people coming across the border are suprised how different Kernow is to England,the E.U recognised us as a seperate culure the only people who keep telling us we are English are the English
avonbeg 1 year ago
@avonbeg
You seem to confuse the English with the Normans, please dont it makes me feel sick.
Shropshireladdie 1 year ago
@avonbeg what langauge do you speak
edwards21416 1 year ago
@edwards21416 Being half Irish and half Cornish I speak Irish Gaelic english and some Cornish
avonbeg 1 year ago
@avonbeg Yorkshire, Lancashire & Northumberland people are far more distinct in character than any county in the south west including Cornwall. It's all a matter of perception.To us up north you all sound like southerners. In attitude & humour your far less distinct from any other southern English people than people in the north. You have roughly the same population as say Liverpool, yet unlike Liverpool, off hand I struggle to think of any well known people in any field who hail from Cornwall !
ALBIONTYKE 1 year ago
@ALBIONTYKE you up north only speak English we also speak Kernewek which is growing all the time and most of our street signs are now in Cornish and English and as for famous people from Cornwall how about Humprey Davy ,Kristin Scott-Thomas,John Nettles,Rory Mcgrath,Mick Fleetwood,Richard Trevithick
avonbeg 1 year ago
@avonbeg So you scrape the barrel with 6 names, well better than I thought lol. If I spoke to you in broad Yorkshire you wouldn't understand a word. Further in Cumbria in the north west of England they are reviving Cumbraic, which was once spoken all over the north of England & southern Scotland. Never the less like in Cornwall very very few are fluent. There are 2 forms of Cornish because nobody really knows for sure exactly how they spoke, much of it is romantic guess work & as for your beer !
ALBIONTYKE 1 year ago
@ALBIONTYKE You confuse dialect with language.You must remember that it took two rebellions one anglo Cornish war one act of genocide by the English and a refusal of translating the common prayer book into Cornish to force the English language on us but the Cornish language did not die out and there has never been a time when Cornish was not spoken my grandfather used as many Cornish words as English there have been academic arguments on certain Cornish words but not two forms of Cornish
avonbeg 1 year ago
@avonbeg I dont confuse dialect with language at all. All languages in Europe apart from Basque are Indo-European & all linked. The language spoken by the Brythonics in what is now the British Isles prior to the Celts coming 2,000 years ago is not known, but probably related to Basque. The Brythonics were trapped in Iberia during the last Ice Age then trekked north via France, hence 90% of us are a different race to Europeans apart from Basques. Celts to Normans = max 10% of UK DNA up to 1947
ALBIONTYKE 1 year ago
@ALBIONTYKE So it is not romantic guess work there were 2000 fluent speakers in 2008 today it is estimated there are 5000 fluent speakers and the number grows all the time.Now you mention Cumbraic and good luck to them Devon has copied our flag and invented some devonshire language but does that make Devon or Cumbria a country ? I think not yet Cornwall is recognised by the European parliment as a Celtic Country with a strong idenity seperate to England
avonbeg 1 year ago
@ALBIONTYKE Also the duke of Cornwall in right of the Duchy of Cornwall is absolute owner of the soil and territorial possessions of Cornwall any were else in the UK it is the queen in right of the crown that holds this position if you die in Cornwall and you have no heirs your property passes to the Duke in right of the Duchy any were else in the uk your property would pass to the queen in right of the crown the duke owns the foreshore in Cornwall the rest of the uk the crown own the foreshore
avonbeg 1 year ago
@ALBIONTYKE If you think their are only six famous people from Cornwall do some research you might be surprised and if you knock our beer try Spingo but most don't try to say its a north against south because thats England we have more in common with the Bretons and the Welsh than we have with the English
avonbeg 1 year ago
@avonbeg Have you finished lad ? Where I come from we know how to take the piss out of each other without getting touchy.
The Brythonics who trekked from the Iberian plains represent 80% of Britain's ingeniousness dna & have been here around 7,000 years. The Celts, Halstadt & La Ten from central Europe came in 450-500AD dominated the Brythonics & gave us the Celtic family of languages. The Germanic tribes who came after that in turn dominated the Celtic led tribes excluding the West Britons.
ALBIONTYKE 1 year ago
@ALBIONTYKE We been here before I'm not touchy (most of the time) anyway what about Yorkshire and Lancashire I hear thats a good way to start an argument in the north.
avonbeg 1 year ago
@avonbeg Oh don't mention Lancashire, their all funny buggers over there..
ALBIONTYKE 1 year ago
@ALBIONTYKE i do post grad genetics studies....and as a welshman i should know....the first settlers were likely dark haired like the cornish,,,,,but were Pre celtic in culture (from iberian penisula )...no one is quite sure of detail as the bleeders never wrote much down :P
Whatever the truth....english sure aint that native lol so fuck the national front ;)
3tangle3 1 year ago
why do people form cornwall have to say cornish not english and all that....WE KNOW! we go on holiday to spain but we dont think the spanish are english!
if you dont want to be English then we certainly dont want you to be.
Shropshireladdie 1 year ago
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Why do ppl bother discussing anything about cornwall, when everyone knows Cornwall is be gonna free. All hell can't stop us now!
3tangle3 3 years ago
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3tangle3 3 years ago
For the truth about Kernow/Cornwall google search 'CornishNotEnglish'
Kernow yw konna tyr orth penn Breten Veur. Kernow yw bro geltek na Sowsnek. Kernow bys vyken !
CornishNeverEnglish 3 years ago 3
This wonderful song makes me cry everytime... Whether it's while singing it at a rugby match to spur the boys onor when my Dad and I are drunk! Can't beat a bit of good old Cornish pride!
thebeachbabe1981 3 years ago 3
This sort of thing happens after every game, its a fantastic day out and no game should ever be without it.
kingfellow 3 years ago
It does the same to Me, tears and shivers of Celtic/Gaelic pride..... and I'm Irish !
euroserf 1 year ago
My goodness. Have some more beer guys!
aquarius33987 3 years ago
Also brill song Stecymru14
just no-one actually understands what it means
OnenHagAll 4 years ago
BRO GOTH AGAN TASOW?
stecymru14 4 years ago
Verow Trelawny Bras
Verow Trelawny Bras
Ottoma Ugens Mil Gernow
A wodvydh oll an kas
OnenHagAll 4 years ago
Good attempt at trying to make it rhyme
jamgibsonjamgibson 4 years ago
Looking forward to seeing you up at Northampton this season
v8viva 4 years ago