did anyone ever feel sorry for ramses? cuz i did. >< the guy wasn't evil he was just raised that way and he really did truly care for his brother. it is too bad that they were torn apart because of their tremendous diff in ideals.
It's hard to put a language like Japanese, which has such different rules for pronunciation, in a song which was originally in English. I think that's why Moses and Rameses' diaglouge sounds rather clunky. The chanting, however, was made for this language.
I think this song is really strong in Japanese because of all the wonderful consonants in the Japanese language. It makes it particularly powerful and poignant. Awesome.
@MaskedMan66 yeah I was talking to another guy who was saying we were all the way out of the woods I said weve gotten better but we got a long way to go. Are you British or a pirate what's up with the matey ha ha.
@nohabody stuff started going wrong after 911 we got dragged into 2 wars we can't get out of and our economy plummeted. Were not out of the woods yet we've greatly recovered but were not out of trouble at least for now.
Man I love the japenese Im still waiting for America to recover from our post 911 recession. I hope at least our friends the Brits the Japs and the canadiens stick by us were going through a tough time right now.
@Bwkjam Wow, off-topic much? And why specify it as 'post 911' when the recession started 6 years after 9-11? If you're gonna talk about it at least use the proper term: the Great Recession and know that it's a global problem not isolated to the U.S. We're lucky to be out of it, some countries aren't.
God, this is my favourite language version of this song. Voices are perfect, the singing fits the melody very well (which is pretty hard when you translate songs), just... waaaaah, I just love Japanese! >w<
Love this video is it just me or does the japenese sound like some kinda spell being cast I'm not saying japenese ppl r evil I'm saying I don't understand a word of japenese and this is played along with god taking down the egptians. Just a thought not meant to offend any1.
I love this their voices sound awsome especially the chorus I'm an American and I speak English Spanish and some german this song makes me wanna learn japenese.
I love this version a little more than my native tounge (English), because I cant understand what they're saying, so the visual really pull you in. Brings shivers down my spine!
@aley2watt I know exactly what you mean. If there's one thing the Japanese are good at, it's taking English songs and making them that much more powerful.
It's interesting that Val Kilmer didn't do his own singing in the original English-language "Prince of Egypt," but in a stage show called "The Ten Commandments: The Musical," a few years later, he once again played Moses, and sang. Maybe he'd had voice lessons by then, dunno.
It's beautiful! Just... whoa. I think I've never heard so much emotion in a Japanese song before. When Moses sings about how it breaks his heart to destroy his home, "Waga ie... konna ni are hate, kokoro-o semeru..." I get a shiver down my spine. Every. Single. Time.
I usually think that the original english versions of these songs are better then the japanese, but in this case? .... This is, in my opinion, the best one that the japanese have done.
Hm...I think the verses sound better in Japanese, but the chorus at the beginning sounds smoother in the English...though I have to admit, the emphasis in the beginning that makes it kinda choppy is kinda cool
Song was good,but the movie sucks,especially in its depiction of ramses II.He is still revered in Egypt and was supposed to have ascended before the plagues.That makes this movie a cartoon in more sense than one.Its lame depiction of how the christian/jewish prophet moses is a good guy while Egyptian king ramses is evil is totally wrong.Christians have enslaved millions and wiped out entire cultures.It continues tdy just look Korea,USA,Nigeria,India etc research is needed before making a movie!
@cillantro Speaking as an atheist here (who's studied world history), this film was a compressed adaptation of the Book of Exodus, not a dissertation for a PhD. This movie actually isn't even about Christianity strictly b/c the Book of Exodus is huge in Judaism as it's the 2nd book of the Torah. Moses is seen as a prophet in Islam. I agree Ramesses II's accomplishments were ignored, but he isn't portrayed as outright EVIL in this movie--as villains go, his character is pretty sympathetic.
@sapphirecircus Yes but ramses was not even there during the plagues.He had long ascended.The masses take info from movies and not historically accurate sources.So it should carry a title saying "work of fiction" or "alternate history",besides RamsesII was used because he is the most famous figure amongst the Pharoas.The responsibility lies with the makers.The"book of exodus" is also the second book of the christian bible's old testament so religious sentiments were weighed by the US film makers
@sapphirecircus Another thing I want to point out is,Egyptians were more pissed off at the idea that a prophet(moses) of Islam's image had been show,than the wrong depiction of Ramses II..which strikes me as ironic,considering Ramses II has done so much for Egypt and continues to do with all the tourism revenue his creations(pyramids etc) draw to egypt even thousands of years after his demise,while all moses did was...nothing of value.Monotheism is extremely unhealthy and egypt is witnessing it.
@cillantro I agree. For what it's worth, in the mini-documentary, The Prince of Egypt - The Making Of, it's revealed that the person who first suggested this film to begin with was Steven Spielberg (who's Jewish), so the idea was not to be some tirade against non-Christians. I'd say radicalism is extremely unhealthy rather than just monotheism itself.
@sapphirecircus I am with you on radicalism,but if you look closer, radicalism stems from not accepting what others have to say.Religion is mostly an emotional thing and that becomes radicalism when someone tells the masses that only their god is true.Moses was jewish so speilberg would definitely have interest in this movie.The depiction of moses says so.You look at ancient wars(as you are a student of history)even the winners did not thrust their religion/gods on the losers.that is polytheism!
@cillantro I still disagree that monotheism is intrinsically inter-twined with reactionary behavior, and nor does polytheism equate with intrinsic goodness. The Aztec mythology was polytheistic, yet resulted in MANY ritual killings. The Hindu practice of Sati (where a widow is either consensually or non-consensually [it varied] immolated @ her husband's funeral), while outlawed as of 1829, was very gruesome. I have nothing against polytheism nor monotheism, but no system's perfect.
@sapphirecircus No system is perfect and that includes atheism too!How when you cannot accept a god because you have no proof for,can you also say that it does not exist? There is no proof for that as well!Fact is we do not know if a god exists or not.daoists are close enough.Besides I did'nt say polytheism was perfect,but it did not create the trouble monotheism creates(crusades,jihad ,caliphatesetc).If I conquer your people,I would not destroy your culture saying my god is superior,thats polyt
@sapphirecircus sati was actually started during the Gupta empire,before which no records of it exist.The Vedas make no mention of it,so it was more of a social thing NOT a religious thing.During Gupta period it was a voluntary thing,not forced upon anyone.Sati has nothing to do with Hinduism.
Aztecs actually welcomed the outsiders who entered their territory,the ritualistic killing were done on war prisoners,criminals etc.They were cheated eventually in the name of christ as were non-muslims
@cillantro I'm not trying to express hate towards polytheism, rather I was merely disagreeing w/ the notion that polytheist followers have never been violent (which I incorrectly thought you said). I never said explicitly nor implicitly that atheism is superior to either type of faith. Aztecs, while I never called them evil, DID commit LARGE amounts of ritual sacrifices (even if the victims were POW, that doesn't diminish the # of sacrifices performed).
@sapphirecircus polytheism followers have never been violent to others coz of religion,monotheist always.You are totally off the mark as that was the point I was making.Sati is no longer practised in Hindu circles,was voluntary back then(1700s).Brits demonised Hinduism to divide and rule.Hindus view death as just a part of the karmic journey,not like christians,heaven and hell etc.Same fr Aztecs.The conquisadors converted everyone who did'nt die.Polytheism is for people monotheism for politics..
@cillantro dude you're generalizing the subject, no mater is it polytheistic or monotheistic there were always good people and fanatics on both sides.
@Guciom That is true but how many?It is not just the internal outlook of the religion(poly or mono) but its external outlook as well.The Achaemenid Empire empire(zoroastrian) allowed for religious tolerance and for the people in conqered lands to keep their faith.This made it the one of the most diverse empires of its time.Whereas the timurid/mughal moslem empires or crusaders had 0% tolerance.Both were monotheist empires.Today's major monotheist faiths have no tolerance for outsiders.
@cillantro again you're generalizing, what i can tell by your staitments is that you have a "they are the bad we are the good" mind set. There were many people of monotheistic faiths that helped other people regardless of faith (Mother Teresa, Karol Wojtyła to name a few), also you claim that polytheistic cultures NEVER harmed other people? Now thats just BS.
@Guciom I am not looking at the individual level.As a matter of fact my previous comment says zoroastrianism a monotheist faith was a positive influence on the world.I claimed polytheist cultures never harmed other people and that is not BS.Did polytheist followers(individuals) harm other people? That is an entirely different question and the answer is an abvious yes,as much as any other humans beings did.The difference being it was not done in the name of religion.That is the point.
@cillantro Regardless of its origin, Sati is practiced in Hindu circles and is considered a largely Hindu practice. I'm NOT trying to hate on neither polytheism nor Aztec heritage/culture nor HInduism (in fact, I really enjoy studying comparative religion). I apologize if I made it seem like I was trying to express hatred against those religions or religion as a whole.
@sapphirecircus Name any other religion where despite being a atheist,you can still be a follower? Hinduism,Buddhism,Shinto,all of these eastern poolytheist faiths emphasise this.The broader picture is what I was talking about and hope I have expressed about certain practises also.Remember suicide which is what sati, is a choice(ex:switzerland) made by you,only impacting you...but hurting non belivers of their faith in tha "name of god"is what monotheists do!an insiders view on religion.
@cillantro Actually, the Pharaoh who finally released the Hebrew slaves was more likely to have been Merneptah, not Rameses. Also, this is 1400-odd years before Christ was born, so don't unload on Christians.
Since you have, however, it's interesting how you accuse Christians of "enslaving millions," but totally ignore one of the main points of the story of Moses, namely that the Egyptian Empire also went in for slavery. If slavery's wrong, it's wrong mate.
@MaskedMan66 True,slavery is wrong no matter who practises it.But the monotheists normally convert slaves to their respecitve religion.This combined with the fear of a god's reprisal by their slave drivers(normally hand in hand with the bishops/mullahs)makes the slaves accept their fate.They could rebel against the egyptians because they mostly did'nt convert slaves.American slaves were emanciated because the US was secular,but look at black muslims in arabia/islamic-africa and arab's servants!
@Tsubakiification Actually, they did a heap of research, as reflected in the three captions that appear in the film, one from the Pentateuch, one from the New Testament, and one from the Koran, all mentioning Moses and his accomplishments.
Any changes to the historical narrative (such as Moses looking like he's in his 30's when he really should be 80) were purely for "dramatic" purposes.
@cillantro A very simplified overview, and not altogether true. Many blacks enslaved by Europeans and Americans became Christians not because they were forced into it (no matter what you've heard, you cannot force real faith), but because they identified with the oppression suffered by God's people throughout the millennia. It was their faith that got them through slavery.
And America was largely Christian when Lincoln-- a Christian-- enacted the Emancipation Proclamation.
@MaskedMan66 .In tribal societies(where slaves were from) they have fear of god,although most of their gods are benevolent.Christians/Muslims are experts in drumming into ones' head the fear of god,not to mention demeaning other original religions.So when these poor black tribal people from the heart of africa are threatened with the wrath of a vengefull all mighty they are prone to get scared.God never said christians are his people,christians patented god and said so ;) Lincoln=sceptic FYI...
@MaskedMan66 The founders of the USA were atheist or irreligious people,Jefferson et all.The motto"In god we trust"is only since 1956,true yanks trust themselves.The aboltionsist were mostly atheists and it was not just one man lincoln who came and swept slavery away.Au conraire the US had segregated army/schools and other forms of segregation till the 50s,even WW-2 was fought by a segregated army.Preston brooks vs sumner?American civil war after lincoln?All god's men;)We are all god's creatures
The intro chanting reminds me of the music from Coraline. ^_^
LynnGryphon 4 days ago
did anyone ever feel sorry for ramses? cuz i did. >< the guy wasn't evil he was just raised that way and he really did truly care for his brother. it is too bad that they were torn apart because of their tremendous diff in ideals.
jualkyn 1 week ago 4
the way they back away at 0:41 and their faces! my what great animation! the body language! so haunting
breekwhal 1 week ago
the beginning, there's a penis
gotopai 2 weeks ago
F***-THE-L-YESSSS!!!! 1,000,000x ORGASMIC YESSSSSS!!!!
Xai15 1 month ago
wow... this song sound so elegant in all the Asian languages it's available in...
thefearlessT 1 month ago
The chanting,oh my Ra! It scares me with it's awesomeness! xD
ThePkmTrainerGold 1 month ago 2
I think I just dropped my jaw! I LOVE this movie and Japan, it's a perfect mix! : )
PurpleOrcaLuv 1 month ago
Oh, this is amazing! O.O
KanaMari 1 month ago
This is the most powerful song!! And all of the songs in this movie are very powerful.
LMFAOASAP 1 month ago in playlist Japanese Art & Music
English version was good. But Japanese version is just.. WOWW
kusanagiflame 1 month ago 3
JESUS CHRIST YES YES YES!!!
yttikazyttikiz 1 month ago
ALL OF MY LOVE!!!!
OokamiTaishou 1 month ago
the chanting in japanese is scary i like the way this was sung
HyugaBlood881 1 month ago
Epic fucking victory dude. Is Japanese avaible on the DVD/BLue ray?
RealGateGuardian 1 month ago
It's hard to put a language like Japanese, which has such different rules for pronunciation, in a song which was originally in English. I think that's why Moses and Rameses' diaglouge sounds rather clunky. The chanting, however, was made for this language.
veevee306 1 month ago
This song was made to be in japanese.
Spampiglets 2 months ago
Eh, I'm indifferent. The chanting was great, but the song just felt clunky.
Xray950 2 months ago 3
The sound effect is really good in this version
klsuperman 2 months ago
This was way intense
ItachiChan123 2 months ago
Its not the lenguage!!
this song is just awsome in any lenguage!!!!
emirjennifer 2 months ago
Japanese verision is great, but polish version is the best!
Ewelina9811 2 months ago
@Ewelina9811
Polaka wszędzie znajdziesz x'D
SuperTuskafka 2 months ago
HI NO AME FURASE YOU! Damn that gets me each time :P
Tripicality 3 months ago
The italian and japanese versions are the better, guys. Sorry for the others.
:)
TheCamyChan 3 months ago
why are japanese people so amazing? <3
kathy950 3 months ago 8
OMG!!! i´m scared :S Is BEAUTIFUL!!!!! Congratulations to Japan from México
cacm1391 3 months ago 5
Ohh~~ Japanese makes this song even better!! <3日本語！！
kaikauruwashii 3 months ago 3
@kaikauruwashii Ehh.. no.
GaaraOnline 3 months ago
Wow, right at 0:12 a HUGE shiver went through my whole body! whoa! I love the Japanese version!
ilovesushii94 4 months ago
@ilovesushii94 I feel the same :O
cainciel 2 months ago
i dont care what language they are in DISNEY MOVIES ARE CLASSIC
JuanDVene 4 months ago
@JuanDVene This isn't Disney...............It's Dreamworks
MKDSzebra3 4 months ago
@MKDSzebra3 .........thats almost like saying its not Disney.............. It's Pixar (ALMOST)
JuanDVene 4 months ago
I'm reminded of Sephiroth's themesong D8
kaworuFanboy 4 months ago
I got the chills from this version.. 8D
ChibiKyriaki 4 months ago
Danish and Japanese = No doubt zha best..EVER!
BongCammie 4 months ago
The french version is as awesome as the japanese version.
MrDeskartes 5 months ago 3
oh my god it's just ridiculous in english...sorry but the english version is the worst version...the Japanese version's more better than the other
rayqwaza1200 5 months ago
That ending brings me to tears. EVERY FREAKING TIME.
:D
awesomegirlO 5 months ago in playlist Super Random/Awesome Songs :D 3
that harminization is freaking AMAZING!
awesomegirlO 5 months ago
SO. AWESOME.
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awesomegirlO 5 months ago
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awesomegirlO 5 months ago
You know how terrifying that must be to see all those plagues coming at you? It must be so scary, especially when this song is playing. o__O
XxCoinOperated13xX 5 months ago 4
@XxCoinOperated13xX In real life, the Egyptians got them one at a time, and that was scary enough.
MaskedMan66 4 months ago in playlist Multilingual Music
@MRXZEROWILSONX and in French too
rayqwaza1200 5 months ago
This sounds so POWERFUL! Oh my God!
00Kakkoi00 5 months ago
I made the mistake of watching this video late at night... you can imagine how that ended :D
1Celebrindor 5 months ago
YES! This is EPIC! Japanese version sounds so angry and powerful. I want to learn this language!
anakinfan12002 5 months ago in playlist More videos from rudobekia 2
mother of god this song just is EPIC in spanish, english, swedish,german and of curse japanese
MRXZEROWILSONX 5 months ago 2
wow O.O i love it!!
Fuffukuschelipups 5 months ago
FFFFFUUUUUUU-
This is better than the English version!
Seniumboy 5 months ago 5
wooooooooowwww *__*
TheClownDoll 5 months ago
Why Moses' voice sounds just like the English voice actor??O__O
xxWeskerLadyKazama93 5 months ago
I love this version! Special Moses and Ramses voice actors! Damn Japanese that is good at everything! T__T<3 But that's a reason why I love them.<3
NewDivded 6 months ago 3
One of the few versions that get Rameses's voice right.
ThePinkBlob123 6 months ago
The chanting is just hauntingly beautiful. ;u;
Yxiran 6 months ago 4
I like the pharaoh's voice in a lot more in the English version, everything else is awesome though
Jurassicparkz08 6 months ago 3
Does anyone know who voices Moses in this version?
ariserrocks 6 months ago
こわいい!!! >o<
Orenjism 6 months ago
Oh, god, the CHANTING in Japanese is terrifying. So awesome.
NobodyLoverXIII 6 months ago 132
I think this song is really strong in Japanese because of all the wonderful consonants in the Japanese language. It makes it particularly powerful and poignant. Awesome.
Ollieshini 6 months ago 2
I'm listening to this version and the English one simultaneously.
Many levels of awesome are being experienced.
KaosAngel18 6 months ago 4
Wooooo! It's like watching a different song!
DivestresCountess 6 months ago
the rythm in japanese is unique for this song
PipG1rl 7 months ago 77
@PipG1rl Incredible how they managed to do that!
leksikon 4 months ago
これは叙事詩である。どんなに何語！
this is epic. No matter what language!
eemapso 7 months ago 6
Man, Japanese makes everything better.
0Krusnik0 7 months ago 4
@0Krusnik0 So true, man. So true. *BROFIST*
Juanath17 6 months ago
when i hear the first chorus the first thing that pops into my mind is shadow of the colossus
SamuraiKirby10 7 months ago
That was awesome! <3
Mimmuziki 7 months ago
Sounds really cool!
LarryTait 7 months ago
@MaskedMan66 yeah I was talking to another guy who was saying we were all the way out of the woods I said weve gotten better but we got a long way to go. Are you British or a pirate what's up with the matey ha ha.
Bwkjam 8 months ago
TRY THIS: get this version, tha Finnish and English one, and play them at the same time.....= EPIC >:D
Tsukuoymi656 8 months ago
@Tsukuoymi656 It might be... if I could click "Play" at the same time on each vid.
GeekingForJesus 8 months ago
i haven yet watched this but i know its gonna be so PRETTY! :D SUFFERING AND DEATH!!!!! <3
Tsukuoymi656 8 months ago
This version of this song should be perfect of my majora's mask tribute part 2 because the characters in the game are voiced by japanese people.
irkenus 8 months ago
I can't help but to love that language!
Fantasyof1995 8 months ago 5
FTW!!!!
odamcc 8 months ago
素晴らしい曲だけど、ちょっと怖い
Akiawa1 8 months ago
WONDERFUL! So powerfull and a bit scary
tajuya17 8 months ago
@nohabody stuff started going wrong after 911 we got dragged into 2 wars we can't get out of and our economy plummeted. Were not out of the woods yet we've greatly recovered but were not out of trouble at least for now.
Bwkjam 8 months ago
@Bwkjam "Greatly recovered?" A national debt in the trillions is not recovered even a little bit, matey!
MaskedMan66 8 months ago in playlist Multilingual Music
Who is voicing Moses? Is it the same dude who voiced Itachi in Naruto 'cause they sound very similar?
TheTrekkie12 9 months ago
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the japs did a perfect job
johnnyruiz17 9 months ago
I can barely make out the chanting in Japanese!! -- I mean, Japanese usually makes distinctions between their syllables, but this was -REALLY- harsh.
Shipuh 9 months ago
I don't like this version that much. :/
TheRowdyTiger 9 months ago
It's epic in Japanese too, WOW
Itachimangekyo 9 months ago
Man I love the japenese Im still waiting for America to recover from our post 911 recession. I hope at least our friends the Brits the Japs and the canadiens stick by us were going through a tough time right now.
Bwkjam 9 months ago
@Bwkjam Wow, off-topic much? And why specify it as 'post 911' when the recession started 6 years after 9-11? If you're gonna talk about it at least use the proper term: the Great Recession and know that it's a global problem not isolated to the U.S. We're lucky to be out of it, some countries aren't.
nohabody 8 months ago
if you like this watch vampire knight it's a good anime.
CrazyGirll13 9 months ago
Sounds more spooky.
bexie1992 9 months ago
God, this is my favourite language version of this song. Voices are perfect, the singing fits the melody very well (which is pretty hard when you translate songs), just... waaaaah, I just love Japanese! >w<
Juanath17 9 months ago
the dubbers sound just the original english voicers!
AbbyAmbition14 9 months ago
Wow...I always thought the English version was epic...but this blows it out of the water! Goosebumps indeed....
dragongirl007 10 months ago 4
HOly crap i just got goosebumps! :O
halloween265 10 months ago
Does anyone know who voiced Moses and Rameses II? I want to know but I can't seem to find out.
MeiAnGangseh 10 months ago
This is fucking wierd, i like this. but the voice is like, WTF, at the same cool but not so cool :D
VanillaPandapro 10 months ago
I MUST have this in my ipod
littlejapan3 10 months ago 4
epic
awesomegirlO 10 months ago
Ic it was probly just a chorus of ppl chanting in a strange language while god sends fire, frogs, flies. Just went through my head.
Bwkjam 10 months ago
this is the perfect song for catholic otakus and other cristians otakus is on japanese and is of exodus.
LuffyuzumakiPotter 10 months ago
Bwkjam - It sounds like that in every language.
TheChibitora 10 months ago
Love this video is it just me or does the japenese sound like some kinda spell being cast I'm not saying japenese ppl r evil I'm saying I don't understand a word of japenese and this is played along with god taking down the egptians. Just a thought not meant to offend any1.
Bwkjam 10 months ago 2
Umm not to detract from this song's seriousness but... is anyone else slightly reminded of Code Geass??
karintzy 10 months ago
@karintzy alittle :P
pokerchamp19009 10 months ago
I love this their voices sound awsome especially the chorus I'm an American and I speak English Spanish and some german this song makes me wanna learn japenese.
Bwkjam 10 months ago
I love this version a little more than my native tounge (English), because I cant understand what they're saying, so the visual really pull you in. Brings shivers down my spine!
aley2watt 10 months ago
@aley2watt I know exactly what you mean. If there's one thing the Japanese are good at, it's taking English songs and making them that much more powerful.
femoman 10 months ago 3
SO AMAZING IN JAPANESE!!!!!!!!!
RayRaykun 10 months ago
God bless the japenese and south Koreans north Korea can suck it.
Bwkjam 10 months ago
It's interesting that Val Kilmer didn't do his own singing in the original English-language "Prince of Egypt," but in a stage show called "The Ten Commandments: The Musical," a few years later, he once again played Moses, and sang. Maybe he'd had voice lessons by then, dunno.
MaskedMan66 11 months ago
I always loved the songs from Prince of Egypt, and hearing it in Japanese gave me goosebumps!!! ^________^
ODragon11 11 months ago 2
freaking epic!!!
isaylynnae 11 months ago 2
Extremely awesome in Japanese!
thatcomeswithfries 11 months ago
LOL This is my favourite version!
emcee2456 11 months ago
Is it auto tuner? It kinda sounds like it
rcc1111 11 months ago
this song always makes me itchy! :-/
yummieyummie123 11 months ago
It's beautiful! Just... whoa. I think I've never heard so much emotion in a Japanese song before. When Moses sings about how it breaks his heart to destroy his home, "Waga ie... konna ni are hate, kokoro-o semeru..." I get a shiver down my spine. Every. Single. Time.
LucreciaLeVrai 1 year ago 6
I prefere frensh version... maybe because I understand it? It's... funny in japanese^^
MissSalsifis 1 year ago
Japanese voice actors never cease to amaze us =D
VVscarletVV 1 year ago 6
Yaaah! Wanna see this movie in japanese now!!! T_T
Suisayga 1 year ago 50
Son of a Bitch!
Not only are they good at cartoons,
but the Japs are good with songs of the caliber too?!
My hat is off to you boys!
DoomsX 1 year ago 12
well thats what ramses gets for not listening to god
BITCH
CM99501 1 year ago
I usually think that the original english versions of these songs are better then the japanese, but in this case? .... This is, in my opinion, the best one that the japanese have done.
aangandtoph4ever 1 year ago 4
I think it's wonderful that this movie was so nationally popular it was remade into so many different languages.
LADyJaPaNimation 1 year ago 5
Not all that bad, but there are some flaws here and there that ruins it for me.
I prefer the norwegian version. :P
WolfieboyMachi 1 year ago
Who else got chills when watching this?
axelxion15 1 year ago 127
@axelxion15 who didn't?
TsubasaAngels 11 months ago
@axelxion15 Everyone @w@
Juanath17 9 months ago
@axelxion15 i did
SamuraiKirby10 7 months ago
Hm...I think the verses sound better in Japanese, but the chorus at the beginning sounds smoother in the English...though I have to admit, the emphasis in the beginning that makes it kinda choppy is kinda cool
kellflo 1 year ago
Oh lord...religion and mythology debate. Clasy Youtube....classy.
ThiefRikku0306 1 year ago 5
@ThiefRikku0306 Nothing wrong with debate, so long as it's civil.
MaskedMan66 11 months ago
@LadyGaGaMonster4Life
Only he didn't sing "ta ta," he sang "datta," which means "was." So, um.
He did sing the word for "little brother," otouto, however....before he sang "datta." "You were my little brother."
stopthatgirl7 1 year ago
This sounds brilliant! :D
They put so much emotion into their singing!
Keidakennedy 1 year ago
Song was good,but the movie sucks,especially in its depiction of ramses II.He is still revered in Egypt and was supposed to have ascended before the plagues.That makes this movie a cartoon in more sense than one.Its lame depiction of how the christian/jewish prophet moses is a good guy while Egyptian king ramses is evil is totally wrong.Christians have enslaved millions and wiped out entire cultures.It continues tdy just look Korea,USA,Nigeria,India etc research is needed before making a movie!
cillantro 1 year ago
@cillantro Speaking as an atheist here (who's studied world history), this film was a compressed adaptation of the Book of Exodus, not a dissertation for a PhD. This movie actually isn't even about Christianity strictly b/c the Book of Exodus is huge in Judaism as it's the 2nd book of the Torah. Moses is seen as a prophet in Islam. I agree Ramesses II's accomplishments were ignored, but he isn't portrayed as outright EVIL in this movie--as villains go, his character is pretty sympathetic.
sapphirecircus 1 year ago
@sapphirecircus Yes but ramses was not even there during the plagues.He had long ascended.The masses take info from movies and not historically accurate sources.So it should carry a title saying "work of fiction" or "alternate history",besides RamsesII was used because he is the most famous figure amongst the Pharoas.The responsibility lies with the makers.The"book of exodus" is also the second book of the christian bible's old testament so religious sentiments were weighed by the US film makers
cillantro 1 year ago
@sapphirecircus Another thing I want to point out is,Egyptians were more pissed off at the idea that a prophet(moses) of Islam's image had been show,than the wrong depiction of Ramses II..which strikes me as ironic,considering Ramses II has done so much for Egypt and continues to do with all the tourism revenue his creations(pyramids etc) draw to egypt even thousands of years after his demise,while all moses did was...nothing of value.Monotheism is extremely unhealthy and egypt is witnessing it.
cillantro 1 year ago
@cillantro I agree. For what it's worth, in the mini-documentary, The Prince of Egypt - The Making Of, it's revealed that the person who first suggested this film to begin with was Steven Spielberg (who's Jewish), so the idea was not to be some tirade against non-Christians. I'd say radicalism is extremely unhealthy rather than just monotheism itself.
sapphirecircus 1 year ago
@sapphirecircus I am with you on radicalism,but if you look closer, radicalism stems from not accepting what others have to say.Religion is mostly an emotional thing and that becomes radicalism when someone tells the masses that only their god is true.Moses was jewish so speilberg would definitely have interest in this movie.The depiction of moses says so.You look at ancient wars(as you are a student of history)even the winners did not thrust their religion/gods on the losers.that is polytheism!
cillantro 1 year ago
@cillantro I still disagree that monotheism is intrinsically inter-twined with reactionary behavior, and nor does polytheism equate with intrinsic goodness. The Aztec mythology was polytheistic, yet resulted in MANY ritual killings. The Hindu practice of Sati (where a widow is either consensually or non-consensually [it varied] immolated @ her husband's funeral), while outlawed as of 1829, was very gruesome. I have nothing against polytheism nor monotheism, but no system's perfect.
sapphirecircus 1 year ago
@sapphirecircus No system is perfect and that includes atheism too!How when you cannot accept a god because you have no proof for,can you also say that it does not exist? There is no proof for that as well!Fact is we do not know if a god exists or not.daoists are close enough.Besides I did'nt say polytheism was perfect,but it did not create the trouble monotheism creates(crusades,jihad ,caliphatesetc).If I conquer your people,I would not destroy your culture saying my god is superior,thats polyt
cillantro 1 year ago
@sapphirecircus sati was actually started during the Gupta empire,before which no records of it exist.The Vedas make no mention of it,so it was more of a social thing NOT a religious thing.During Gupta period it was a voluntary thing,not forced upon anyone.Sati has nothing to do with Hinduism.
Aztecs actually welcomed the outsiders who entered their territory,the ritualistic killing were done on war prisoners,criminals etc.They were cheated eventually in the name of christ as were non-muslims
cillantro 1 year ago
@cillantro I'm not trying to express hate towards polytheism, rather I was merely disagreeing w/ the notion that polytheist followers have never been violent (which I incorrectly thought you said). I never said explicitly nor implicitly that atheism is superior to either type of faith. Aztecs, while I never called them evil, DID commit LARGE amounts of ritual sacrifices (even if the victims were POW, that doesn't diminish the # of sacrifices performed).
sapphirecircus 1 year ago
@sapphirecircus polytheism followers have never been violent to others coz of religion,monotheist always.You are totally off the mark as that was the point I was making.Sati is no longer practised in Hindu circles,was voluntary back then(1700s).Brits demonised Hinduism to divide and rule.Hindus view death as just a part of the karmic journey,not like christians,heaven and hell etc.Same fr Aztecs.The conquisadors converted everyone who did'nt die.Polytheism is for people monotheism for politics..
cillantro 1 year ago
@cillantro dude you're generalizing the subject, no mater is it polytheistic or monotheistic there were always good people and fanatics on both sides.
Guciom 1 year ago
@Guciom That is true but how many?It is not just the internal outlook of the religion(poly or mono) but its external outlook as well.The Achaemenid Empire empire(zoroastrian) allowed for religious tolerance and for the people in conqered lands to keep their faith.This made it the one of the most diverse empires of its time.Whereas the timurid/mughal moslem empires or crusaders had 0% tolerance.Both were monotheist empires.Today's major monotheist faiths have no tolerance for outsiders.
cillantro 1 year ago
@cillantro again you're generalizing, what i can tell by your staitments is that you have a "they are the bad we are the good" mind set. There were many people of monotheistic faiths that helped other people regardless of faith (Mother Teresa, Karol Wojtyła to name a few), also you claim that polytheistic cultures NEVER harmed other people? Now thats just BS.
Guciom 1 year ago
@Guciom I am not looking at the individual level.As a matter of fact my previous comment says zoroastrianism a monotheist faith was a positive influence on the world.I claimed polytheist cultures never harmed other people and that is not BS.Did polytheist followers(individuals) harm other people? That is an entirely different question and the answer is an abvious yes,as much as any other humans beings did.The difference being it was not done in the name of religion.That is the point.
cheers
cillantro 1 year ago
@cillantro "The difference being it was not done in the name of religion" you claim a lot without any sufficient evidence
Guciom 1 year ago
@cillantro were not going anywhere with this so lets just stop
Guciom 1 year ago
@Guciom Okay I don't want to offend you just for the sake of religion.
cillantro 1 year ago
@cillantro Regardless of its origin, Sati is practiced in Hindu circles and is considered a largely Hindu practice. I'm NOT trying to hate on neither polytheism nor Aztec heritage/culture nor HInduism (in fact, I really enjoy studying comparative religion). I apologize if I made it seem like I was trying to express hatred against those religions or religion as a whole.
sapphirecircus 1 year ago
@sapphirecircus Name any other religion where despite being a atheist,you can still be a follower? Hinduism,Buddhism,Shinto,all of these eastern poolytheist faiths emphasise this.The broader picture is what I was talking about and hope I have expressed about certain practises also.Remember suicide which is what sati, is a choice(ex:switzerland) made by you,only impacting you...but hurting non belivers of their faith in tha "name of god"is what monotheists do!an insiders view on religion.
Cheers
cillantro 1 year ago
@cillantro Actually, the Pharaoh who finally released the Hebrew slaves was more likely to have been Merneptah, not Rameses. Also, this is 1400-odd years before Christ was born, so don't unload on Christians.
Since you have, however, it's interesting how you accuse Christians of "enslaving millions," but totally ignore one of the main points of the story of Moses, namely that the Egyptian Empire also went in for slavery. If slavery's wrong, it's wrong mate.
And who's keeping slaves in America?
MaskedMan66 11 months ago
@MaskedMan66 True,slavery is wrong no matter who practises it.But the monotheists normally convert slaves to their respecitve religion.This combined with the fear of a god's reprisal by their slave drivers(normally hand in hand with the bishops/mullahs)makes the slaves accept their fate.They could rebel against the egyptians because they mostly did'nt convert slaves.American slaves were emanciated because the US was secular,but look at black muslims in arabia/islamic-africa and arab's servants!
cillantro 11 months ago
@cillantro Come on it's a Disney movie. they don't put much historical thinking into the movie when they make one some part during history
Tsubakiification 10 months ago
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@Tsubakiification True,this discussion has been going on for long :0
cillantro 10 months ago
@Tsubakiification This was made by Dreamworks...
girlwithafunnyhat11 10 months ago
@girlwithafunnyhat11 ....(my mum told me it was Disney..dammit) Anyway. Still. Not much historical thought when making an animated movie.
Tsubakiification 10 months ago
@Tsubakiification Actually, they did a heap of research, as reflected in the three captions that appear in the film, one from the Pentateuch, one from the New Testament, and one from the Koran, all mentioning Moses and his accomplishments.
Any changes to the historical narrative (such as Moses looking like he's in his 30's when he really should be 80) were purely for "dramatic" purposes.
MaskedMan66 10 months ago
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MaskedMan66 10 months ago
@cillantro A very simplified overview, and not altogether true. Many blacks enslaved by Europeans and Americans became Christians not because they were forced into it (no matter what you've heard, you cannot force real faith), but because they identified with the oppression suffered by God's people throughout the millennia. It was their faith that got them through slavery.
And America was largely Christian when Lincoln-- a Christian-- enacted the Emancipation Proclamation.
MaskedMan66 10 months ago
@MaskedMan66 .In tribal societies(where slaves were from) they have fear of god,although most of their gods are benevolent.Christians/Muslims are experts in drumming into ones' head the fear of god,not to mention demeaning other original religions.So when these poor black tribal people from the heart of africa are threatened with the wrath of a vengefull all mighty they are prone to get scared.God never said christians are his people,christians patented god and said so ;) Lincoln=sceptic FYI...
cillantro 10 months ago
@MaskedMan66 The founders of the USA were atheist or irreligious people,Jefferson et all.The motto"In god we trust"is only since 1956,true yanks trust themselves.The aboltionsist were mostly atheists and it was not just one man lincoln who came and swept slavery away.Au conraire the US had segregated army/schools and other forms of segregation till the 50s,even WW-2 was fought by a segregated army.Preston brooks vs sumner?American civil war after lincoln?All god's men;)We are all god's creatures
cillantro 10 months ago
holy wow....sheer awesomeness. i like this more than the english version!!
StormChick05 1 year ago
@LadyGaGaMonster4Life
"Otouto datta" Basically means "Little brother he was."
Once I called you brother was "Katsude wa ani".
MagegirlNino 1 year ago
@MagegirlNino
katsute - Sorry!
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MagegirlNino 1 year ago