There is no right to medical care in the US Constitution. And there sure as hell is no authority for the federal government to mandate Americans to buy health insurance. If you want healthcare then save your money. Paul helps you do this by advocates the lowest taxes and state rights. Many people claim Paul is not compassionate. The opposite is true. Paul is a defender of life and the liberty to take care of yourself. Only the irresponsible criticize Ron Paul on his constitutional beliefs.
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights, adopted by the United Nations in 1948, proclaimed that "everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of oneself and one's family, including food, clothing, housing, and medical care."
@asvoth The UN has no right to try to govern the US .Everybody has the right to access to Health care no matter if they can pay it or not .The Gov forcing me to buy it,taking my taxes to buy it ,making me pay for someone elses that is not a right .That is socialisim it wont happen here .As far as the UN goes they can ALL go to Hell with a quickness ,we dont want them here anyway.They also give human rights abusers seats on the HR commissions
OBAMA, DEMOCRATS, USA ; WAKE UP ! RON PAUL DOESNT KNOW HOW TO CREATE JOBS! POPULATION OF CHINA IS 1.4B, POPULATION OF USA IS 310 MLN ! RON PAUL USES WORDS ;CONSTITUTION AND LIBERTY , DEEP INSIDE HE DOESNT HAVE AN ANSWER HOW TO CREATE JOBS, CHINESE WORK LIKE ROBOTS, AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NEVER WORK LIKE ANTS, WAKE UP AMERICA, RON PAUL IS DANGEROUS FOR OUR COUNTRY, HE GIVES USA BAD NAME AROUND THE WORLD! WHAT KIND OF AMERICAN CALLS HIS OWN PEOPLE WAR CRIMINALS? RON PAUL MUST BE PROSECUTED!
I am a Canadian, who's lived in Canada my entire life....you Americans need to LISTEN TO THIS MAN!! EVERYTHING he says about government and healthcare is TRUE!!! We here in Canada do not have to pay for medicare directly...but we pay dearly in other ways...we wait MONTHS for desperately needed operations...we waith 6+ hours to see a doctor...our taxes are over 35% for the average earner, 45+% for high earners (on top of 13% sales taxes)...let the market work, get govt out, and you will win.
@moosh27 Well, here in America if you get laid off and you or someone in your family needs a surgery, you have to wait 6 months to get treated for a preexisting condition once you're eligible for insurance again (which usually totals to be a year or more later). Waiting months doesn't seem so bad. And when I call to make an appointment with my doctor, I sometimes have to schedule a month out. And we don't pay that much less in taxes.
@nexus1g I honestly don't think you pay anything close in taxes that us Candians do. Besides paying 35-40% income tax, we have outrageous property tax, liqour tax (26oz of vodka is $30!...a 12 pack of beer is $20), it cost $100 a year to have your vehicle plated, etc....it's insane. All the while medicare is crumbling before our eyes. i'm not saying that you have it better, I'm just noting that what Ron is saying is the truth behind what happens to prices with govt involvement.
@nexus1g and what is the most unfortunate aspect of universal healthcare in Canada, is you have an entire population at the mercy of government, to the point where no matter what our politicians do, no one protests out of fear that they we may somehow lose our medicare and the countless other social programs our govt runs. That is not freedom....freedom is having the ability to keep the fruits of your labor, and letting competition for your $ to drive innovation, and prices down.
Actually Ron Paul supporters are not "Anarcho-Capitalists" (nice term creation) they are "Free-market Capitalists"...I assume you have no knowledge of the constitution or Dr. Paul to make such an obvious mischaracterization...
How is an advocation for the Rule of law in anyway related to Anarchy? I didn't know the advocation for a constitutionaly bound republic equates to advocating no government at all....thanks for the disinformative lesson.
@EmptyBottleTherapies You are correct. Free-market capitalism does not mean de abolition of the state. I correct my statement: "Free-market capitalists officially give me the creeps" and so does your constitution if it says that no one has right to access health care. =)
You can say 'you have right to whatever' because talk is cheap. It doesn't change the fact, that there is a price to pay. Free market makes the price to go down. False sense of security "market" drives the price up. Everyone has access to the well but there is no water.
@EmptyBottleTherapies Capitalism with the abolition of the state (Anarcho-Capitalism) does exist. It may not technically be anarchism from a more abstract point of view though.
@MrScar7X Your not getting it, health care is a privledge not a right. Why does anyone have a right to take tax dollars from people that pay taxes so that they can get health care? In the US were guaranteed our right to life and property and thats how it should be.
@dulkin316 Health care being a privilege fails when hard-working, responsible people are being laid off left and right. Then when they get a job, they have to work there for 3-6 months before they're eligible for health care again and then will have a 6-month waiting period for preexisting conditions. This is why health care as a privilege fails. In an ideal world, that concept could work, but we are definitely not living in an ideal world.
god bless ron paul. laying out all of his points and explaining them logically. unfortunately, all the bipartisan congressman are almost certainly doodling or sleeping all the while.
When did the principles of "Liberty" overtake the principles of basic human decency? We've had Universal Health care for a long time in Canada and I have never heard anyone complain (personally or nationally) that "people are freeloading" Healthcare isn't a "right" to us. Healthcare is a unifying sense of pride where we say to each other "I've got your back. I don't even have to know you but I've got your back" It must be asked...are Americans truly different?
@Lennon4life1968 The "I've got your back" part is ok, because in that sense, it's voluntary. Except with UHC it's not voluntary. You may be used to it because you've had it for a long time. If you want to give your money to others for their medical care, that's a nice and caring thing to do. But when the government is telling you that you have to, that is force. And if they can force you to chip in for other's medical bills, they can do it for anything they deem for the "greater good".
@3rdEchel0n ..you're forgetting that these people would also help pay for you. I'm sorry but I can't say that the health of another person should be risked only because you have a fear of government.
@Lennon4life1968 But I'm not asking anyone to help me, and their offer to help me shouldn't force me to help them. And this debate has nothing really to do with government. Nobody, no entity, should force you to give your labor up for the well being of another. I'm sure I sound heartless, but this is about force, and what you can be forced to give up for the sake of the great good. Healthcare is a good thing, but then it turns into the Military-Industrial Complex and Farm subsidies.
I think I recall reading somewhere that we all have unalienable rights of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
Apart from that we being the only 1st world country with 40 million uninsured, 20-40,000 deaths a year thereof, and the highest per capita costs, Ron Paul's suggestion was: "fuck sick people, if they had only practiced witchcraft in the first place they would have never gotten sick."
@kakahass Typical right wing response I was expecting, if in doubt call it a socialist. I understand enough about economic theory to know that Ron Paul talks out his ass.
@Bellantoni yea unalienable rights of life (meaning you cannot take someone else's life), Liberty (no one can force you to live a certain way or pay into things you don't want) and pursuit of happiness (everyone has the same opportunity to work hard and succeed) so where does health care come in? in none of those- if you think people have a right to health care then you will also go on to say you have a right to a car, a house and a imac computer with broadband....
@kakahass People have the right to health care in the same way that they have the right to life.
I don't think that life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness needs any commentary attached to the terms; they're pretty self-explanatory.
And yes, as the next line in the declaration says, securing these rights should be the only job of government, but if a man doesn't have a job or an income (said MLK), he has none of these, he merely exists.
@Bellantoni the next line reads "That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government" Now a govt cannot secure health care without removing "liberty" from the people by excessive taxation- the reason why the declaration was signed in the 1st place.
@kakahass It wasn't excessive taxation, it was the British East India Company had a bad year so they made the English Parliament tax tea in America to compensate for the loss, Americans would never see a dime of that money it was all to go straight to the EIC, hence the phrase 'no taxation without representation.'
You simply cannot say that a single payer system will be more expensive than a privatized one, the US spends more per capita than any country on Earth in health care costs.
@Bellantoni i hate having my email make a sound everytime someone replies on youtube- but ill reply and have a break from work :) the question is not whether it will be more expensive- but more efficient. As an economist- it is basic knowledge that govt cannot redirect capital efficiently, and you will probably get taxed more than you will receive in healthcare. A libertarian position is not "poor people can go and die" but "a free market will provide healthcare much cheaper than any govt could"
@kakahass But they do direct capital. I mean you might be right in saying they shouldn't or they have no business too, and so forth, however, virtually all capital developments in history have come from the state sector: computers, internet, railroads, commercial airlines, containerization, mass production, agribusiness etc. The USA has the biggest state sector and most protected economy in history, companies like Boeing and IBM live off military contracts. The free market, sadly, is a myth.
@Bellantoni LOL i couldn't help laughing at the comment that all economies that have developed have developed because of the state- that is an absolutely false statement. was the plane invented by the govt? or was the car invented by congress? Most successful ventures begin with individual entrepreneurs - just like how drug companies and not the govt come up with new medicinal formulas- that is why we have things like patents...i really don't know where you get your ideas from. mises.org
@kakahass Yes the wright brothers were only able to complete their jobs after they got a government grant and afterwards planes were manufactured by the USAF. World class medical facilities and treatments are developed in medical schools in america like Johns Hopkins, Harvard, Yale etc whose research is entirely state funded (NIH, NSF etc). Look into the origins of silicon valley, it was the center of naval, air force and NASA research. The dynamacy of technological innovation comes from the MIC
such a right "endorses the notion that some individuals have the right to someone else´s life and property. this totally contradicts the principles of liberty."
yes, mr. paul, but liberty again contradicts the principles of equality and in a world, where the promise of equal opportunities for all has become a mere joke, liberty should have to step back a notch. flaws in our system promote inequality and need to be fixed by redistribution.
If you watch the video of him on Larry King (Unaired (supposedly)) he defends his position with "not everyone has a right to a house and when the Government decided everyone has a right to a house it created this housing bubble." The Founding Fathers wrote "right to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" they didn't write that we have the right to a house, food or medical care.
Nobody have any more rights than are given to them.
If you want to live together in peace and prosperity as a social creature there will have to be cooperation.
You will have to weigh freedom (cost) and benefit.
Is the little decrease in freedom not worth in itself and together as a whole the right not worth taking care of the dying child outside the hospital in rich prosperous nation?
Paul wollow in luxury and say no to the dying child.
@edugebdron, other things i need that are even more important than health care that are goods and services i purchase as a results of the product of my labor, such as shelter and food.
well, (1) he says the right to health care obstructs other people's right to life and property which basically translates to "only those that can afford health care deserve it". (2) he says universal healthcare can only be provided by an "authoritarian" government which is bullshit and unsubstantiated. (3) he says putting money into government only causes higher prices and lower quality care (look at medicare)
Two weeks ago I would've argued with a stranger over the internet on this issue.
But now that Health Care Reform is undergoing rigor mortis [see Ted Kennedy's throne] I'm not going to waste valuable keystrokes.
But if I was going to give you some good news, it's that the free-market reforms proposed by Dr. Paul will continue to be ignored by the press & the congress and that in all likelihood the current system of crony-capitalism will stay long and strong.
You wanna know what real health care reform is? Look at France, Germany, Britain, Japan, or almost any industrialized nation competing with America. They don't have outstanding coverage compared to us because they have a "free market" health care. They have single-payer, state-insured health care because its more cost effective and its the right thing to do.
I told myself that I wouldn't feed the trolls but now I can't resist.
Please elaborate on what you mean by "outstanding coverage".
And please explain how medical care, from the non-essential to the absolutely critical, is better served under a government monopoly compared to a system of profits and losses -- i.e., a market.
And if medicine under a single-payer system is preferable to a system of profits and losses, what reason could you have to not extend that logic to everything??
(1) By outstanding coverage I mean that citizens of those countries get free medical care for their whole life and it costs much less on average to cover each person under the government system.
(2) I love how you use the term "monopoly" to give government an inherently "evil" label. I don't think that we should ban private hospitals but I think the government should be able to compete with the private sector. If people like the gov't system better, than it should be kept.
@pdaniels9000 Where do you think the government will get the money to pay for and run a health care system? The government does not make money! It takes money! Almost 60% of the American people do not pay taxes so that means people who work their selves silly to get ahead will be taxed up the waazoo to pay for it! Also, if you haven't figured it out yet, you will be scheduled or lotteried just to get in to see a "government doctor"!! Good luck with that!
@coleyman1 of course the government takes money, but that's how we pay for things like roads and schools. by the way, middle class taxes have actually been reduced since Obama has been in office.
@pdaniels9000 Look, you have not even read HB 3200 and I have! You have to be very young and stupid to think that this health care bill is going to be just paid for by the very rich! Ask you mom and dad what they think about HB3200 and it's intrusion in their private lives and forcing them to buy insurance or be fined! I would love it if everyone had access to insurance, but that is not everyone's right! It is the right of everyone to recieve health care when they need it, however.
@coleyman1 well what's your solution to giving people access to medical care? or making sure that people don't have to pay for huge surgeries or medicine? one thing about the countries that you've lived in is that people there have access to free medical care and they are much healthier than we are. that is a fact that you cannot dispute.
@pdaniels9000 NOTHING is free!Taxes in most European countries range anywhere from 45% to 70%!They can see a doctor when they get sick without paying,as well.The problem with Socialist programs like that is,no one has unlimited access to doctors,you wait in line or enter a lottery system for office visits,and diasnostic procedures and surgeries take months!My neighbor is a Canadian doctor that moved to the U.S. because of this!Wake up! Progressive and socialist programs suck!
@coleyman1 so would you rather that families go bankrupt over medical bills? you do know that 60% of bankruptcies in America are related to medical bills right?
@pdaniels9000 I hate seeing anyone go bankrupt or have financial hardships over any situation, but there are so many established programs where aid is available for people who do not have the resources to pay for medical care already. Anyone who goes bankrupt in this country over medical expenses just hasn't contacted the right agency! No one constitutionally has the right to any type of subsistance. That is NOT what the government is for.
@coleyman1 can you name one of these "many" established programs? let's say a working father with three children get's lung cancer. how would he get covered for radiation, chemo, medication, or surgery if his insurance company decided to drop him?
not to mention, how do we make up for the effect this has on our economy when families all over the country are handing over virtually all of their savings and disposable income to health insurance companies?
(3) Why can't we say some things are better off in the private sector and some things are better served by the public sector?
Also, having private insurance just makes the premiums pot smaller for greedier people; people who want the most benefits from their money. Health care reform would make the money pot bigger for more people to benefit from equally. It would also make the health system more efficient if more people are covered more frequently.
what those countries have is managed care at the cost of high taxes, said taxes not meaning you get the best quality service for your money. you get what the government is willing to pay for and universal covers some of the basics. if you have a serious pre existing condition or need surgery you get on a waiting list. we don't need the government managing health care.
Have you been to a truly "white trash" town? places like Flint, Michigan or certain areas in the Appalacian Mountains? Some places don't even have access to procedures to fix a cleft palate.
In European countries, people in lower class towns get basic quality care.
Btw, there will always be shortages in medical coverage as long as society is competing for it (private insurance does it all the time). But if we can invest in preventative care, there will be less demand for expensive coverage.
@pdaniels9000 Whoa, I think you have your facts wrong!! France, Germany, Great Britain and most other European countries DO NOT have what is called "free market" system type health care. Their health care is governmant run and controlled. That's why when they have serious medical problems they come to the U. S. for treatment! We (U.S.) have a free market system that just went south with OBAMA CARE!!
@coleyman1 actually most of those countries still have private insurance companies that compete with government insurance.
and where did you hear that Europeans come all the way to the US to be treated? maybe the extremely well-off Europeans. but I think its important for the government to make sure that (1) everybody has equal access to health care and (2) the demand for expensive surgeries and medication go down.
@pdaniels9000 First of all, you need to read what you wrote and ask yourself if that really makes sense! I lived in Munich for four years and in London for one and you are wrong, oh so wrong! Only the very, very rich can afford private insurance in both Germany and England. Most of the general population is bound to government health care. The problem is no matter who your provider is, you can't get in to see a doctor nor get a procedure done!
I would actually trust a Nurse Practitioner more so than a doctor, and a holistic doctor more so than either of them. However, in America, big lobbyists like the AMA and PharmCo have made it completely a monopoly not allowing us alternatives like much other healthier countries.
We don't need health care ruled by government, we need government to kick out the lobbyists of the pharmacy companies and regulate how much we are charged.
Over many years we have all been lied to by our Governments, but not just our Governments but many religous leaders. Many things we have been taught are not even in Scripture and millions have swallowed so many lies by these false prophets. If you are a truth seeker please visit the web site which is displayed in our user name, and take the time to read some of the articles, you will be shocked.
I know he wants to get rid of the federal reserve and I couldn't agree more however his answer is the "market" should regulate the currency. I can't wrap my head around that, considering there would be an exponential demand for currency and we would be back at square one. I like the idea of some kind of public and transparent regulation. It's a necessary evil.
You people are dumb ... his point is if the government provided everything we deemed necessary ... the government would have to issue food, clothes, homes, and everything else people feel is a "need". The government should not provide healthcare ... open your eyes people ... if you people could open your eyes you would see that Ron Paul is a patriot. He is the only one speaking out against big government, and the ultimate one world government, read a fucking history book
how have i stolen other peoples money through taxes I PAY FOR HEALTH CARE everyone gets sick at somepoint so we all pay for eachother you my friend need a lesson in what society means
you live in a poor socialist country with very few freedoms. we have a federal constitution in the US that says govt can't steal from one person and give to another. rich people pay for your healthcare because you are a loser and can't do it yourself. pathetic
Ron pauls an asshole. People should have a right to healthcare. No one can have an existance of life, liberity and the pursute of happiness if there coughing up there ffking bloody lungs.
Our people should be looked upon and investment not a burden.
As far as Obamas healthcare plan goes, its shit and socialistic vomit. There is a proper way to do it, but both of these guys are fkn clueless.
The majority needs to step up and put the rich minority in place ni4d*dot*us
kyeot, according to your moron logic, i should be able to sit around all day and do absolutely nothing, and while you work 40 hours a week, i should be able to take your money from 10 hours a week and pay for my home, food, shelter and health care, because they are rights. i have a right to them, i can't make my own home, so it must be provided from me, and i will use your money to build it. that sounds logical to you? you're cool with that?
@sickmint79 The only problem with that is people who work full time and more and even make a decent amount of money can't afford adequate healthcare. And what about students? Many work harder than you likely ever will but aren't afforded healthcare.
@azbacnikorange huh? i have been a student. and i long for how easy things were those days! congratulations on finding a problem with the price of health care, i have a problem with it too. however this has absolutely nothing to do with rights, and everything to do with economics. it does not take much research to see that government has played a large role in in getting price to where it it these days.
Good sir, I say this to you, mr. Pail and all market-liberals alike: if you apply your ideals consistently you would not be market-liberals but rather anarcho-Capitalists. One does not have a right to force someone else to provide a service, under this motion nationalized medicare is rejected my market-liberals such as Paul, if this principle is applied consistently you'll see that a right to protection of services cannot be guaranteed by the state but rather it must by the market.
What do you do for a living? Have you ever looked at your gross income versus your net income? I can assure you that its not the corporations or the banks that are taking 33% of your wage away from you. The big screen tv you were able to purchase and the car you drive. That wasn't from the government that was from capitalism. But unfortunately, you are right, we didn't learn from history. Our founding fathers pleaded with the country to stay away from the bankers but Coolidge in 1912 sold us out
We have had classes on diet and health. We have pharmacology... it talks about preservatives. Every human being on the planet has parasites most of them being part of the normal flora of the body. But if there is some type of helminth or any kind of harmful prokaryote we will get rid of it.
Tort reform does need to happen. If doctors had some form of protection against frivolous lawsuits our malpractice wouldn't be so high and costs would come down.
Why would a Doctor not treat a woman for STD's instead of ordering tons of trets when it has been show over and over in thousands of test that (spelling) Clymidia hide under the cyist on the tubes and ovaries. Just treating her would allow many many women to have children but no there is TOO MUCH PROFiT THERE from test !
The tests are to rule out other disease that it could possibly be. If tests are not preformed a doctor could possibly treat the wrong bug and the infection could become life threatening. Would you rather the doc treat before he has ruled out al other possibilities?
How many times would a Doctor need to see cystic on Ovaries before he would say that 10,000 tests on other women have shon the this STD will not come up on a test it is hidden. Buit it is the cause of the problems.
How many? 10 million because I would venture to say that many test have been done in the last 50 years.
See wasted money. If the Doctor can't learn from 50 years of pretty advanced testing they might need to do something else !
You would have to go thru medical school to understand why Cysts on an ovary is not specific for chlamydia. It could be a range of other things including chronic inflammation of the ovaries or idiopathic reasons. So basically, you are misinformed. This is an all tigers are cats but not all cats are tigers issue. Which means that women with chronic chlamydia have cysts but on all women with cysts have chlamydia, can be do to something else. The treat cost money too and we could be treating wrong
Chances are you will marry a woman who will not be able to get pragnate until it is cured so the egg will drop into the womb. And she will go nuts and take you with her,
The need for TORT LAW REFORM has alrwady been proved wrong by the MAYO CLINIC and a 10 Year Study of Hospital Medical Records by Harvard Medical School.
Tort Reform is just a claim used to keep ordering too many test and excessive billing.
I just learned in class today why I have to order too many tests and charge excessive bills. It because if something goes wrong... Its my fault and I lose my ability to support myself and my family because even non disciplinary actions results in me losing patients under different insurance coverages. Not to mention malpractice. So its in my best interest, regardless of costs to cover my ass and cover it well, because when something does go wrong... The doctor is not protected.
What a poor comment. Ron Paul simply advocates freedom and personal responsibility. If a person is not allowed to fail or is provided all their needs, what is the incentive to better themslves?
I came from a modest background but now run my own successful business because I worked my behind off.
The government didn't give me a thing and I was STILL successful.
Ro nPaul isnt stupid he realizes like most that everything the government gets its hands on turns int oa huge blackhole of spending, healthcare needs reform but it shouldnt be socialized.
There is no such thing as a "free market" and there never was.
Reason?
Businesses and corporations COLLECTIVIZE regardless of government. They form groups known as "chambers of commerce" that support their interests. They then hypocritically attack workers for forming their own unions.
You think the consumer is actually fully informed about the full socio-economic activities of businesses? That would be very naive. They care about profits above your health or well-being.
#2...How is the current health insurance monopoly not an "authoritarian system unconcerned about the rights of the individual." It clearly is, and clearly they dont care about individuals...
He barely addresses it in his 3rd point...
And #8 is happening right now...insurance company bureaucrats...
#10 - insurance companies have 94% of the market nationwide so thats not gonna do much
We will never have enough food, water, energy or health care until we redesign our world to look at ALL people's needs over a FEW people's profits.
The government is NOT the answer either. All governments are bought and paid for by the international bankers and corporations.
We need to look at the ROOT CAUSE of all these problems and that is the monetary system. Without money the only question is do we have the resources and technology to create an abundance of life's necessities, YES WE DO!
When we enslave each other with taxation for welfare causes we do not allow individuals to give freely we have silenced their own individual voice to help out. Everyone knows that being able to give to others is a much more fulfilling experience then having the government take their own personal property and spend it as the central planners see fit which is often a much worse solution then those that come from caring passionate people.
Individuals > Governmental Actions (which are 100% force)
Congressmen Paul why do you take tax payer health care then?
For those who say Ron Paul doesn't take tax payer government health care YOU ARE WRONG - call his office, ask, they freely admin he does he. He doesn't contribute to the government tax payer pension.
Dr. Paul stop accepting Tax Payer Health Care AND if you are more Libertarian than Republican then leave the corrupt GOP money machine.
Intellectual dishonestly here as you Straw man Dr. Paul
Ron Paul does not like the post office either but as he says its the only viable option we have some times, but we never have to like these FORCED options we have through the Federal Government
Given the chance for a market solution do you think Ron Paul would not take his SS or Medicare forced money taken from him and Offer to give it directly to a Doctor for coverage?
You think it's bad now, corporations are pretty much running the government, give them full range and this country will end up like Mexico - 5 families running the show.
Without a people's government you and your kids would be slaves in a factory, like India and China
maybe you feel you need for a corporate master, most of us don't
GOVERNMENT gives the corporations the power over the people yet you advocate for more power for the Government in our Oligarchy?
Truly laughable you don't see who truly pulls the strings and uses force over people to do things their way.
A people's Government? That is a sad Joke if I have ever heard of one.
You and I have Masters and I'm not about to spoon feed them so more power to hand over to Government Sachs, Government Electric and Government Motors. Its Fascism quit feeding the Monster
No we have masters, owners, not a government from the people. We have an Oligarchy of a few ruling the masses as they want.
They run the printing presses and hold taxation over our heads at all times
This has been ever since we outsourced our money supply to the Federal Reserve back on December 23rd 1913.. The elite run the show and do what they want when they want
George Carlin explains
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Yet you want me to give up more of my Private property and liberties to them? BS~!
Ron Paul has spoke time and time again about ending phony MANDATED insurance. When you do not know this why do you even spend the time posting that he is propping up the insurance companies?
Liberals can take their public option and stick it straight up their ass! No one has a right to take my money by force and give it to someone else. As if we don't have enough dependency in this country, and as if we don't have enough debt...Morons!
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Ron Paul is a douche bag ideologue who ignores facts because they contradict the ideology he worships. For him to acknowledge that dozens of governments around world do a better job on health care than our market health care, would be to acknowledge that everything he believes is a lie.
Poster--you're a complete asshole for talking about an honest man like Ron in such a manner. We do not have free market health care, we have corporatism. We need to completely take insurance companies out of the picture, do away with the FDA (why? Because the FDA makes it impossible for real cures to be brought to the market due to the cost to get cures approved. If it can't be patented, then nobody pays for the trials), and make health care a doctor/patient matter once more.
Yes, and flipping houses was a great way to get rich, until all the flippers lost everything they had.
Government-financed programs are inherently unsustainable..particularly so if the people of the country are unproductive, do not accumulate savings, and routinely live on credit.
Government-run healthcare will do for medicine and medical services what Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (et al.) did to real estate.
Look at the evidence. Nearly every developed country in the world has a form of government supplied health care. And they all rank a lot higher than you on the WHO health list. Hmmmm.....
Put away your anti-government hard-on, and lobby for a system that is cheaper, more efficient, supported by doctors and built to serve you--the public option.
"Cheaper" Are you kidding me? Name one thing where the government got involved where costs went down and quality went up. There is no precedent for the free-market increasing costs. You don't understand the free market. Everyone has a responsibility to their fellow man, but no one has a right take to take another's property by force and give it to someone else. If we had free markets, small government and sound money, everyone's standard of living would increase and dependency would decrease.
he's on the short lists of congressman that see no lobbyists. you are just ignorant of his argument, that he is not entitled to the fruits of someone else's labor as a right.
If only Obama and his advisors were only half as intellegent and concerned about what is ailing America as Ron Paul is, we all would be truly on a road to recovery. Many current laws need to be REPEALED which encourage businesses to employ production of products outside the U.S. rather than here at home. I know, that is protectionism, you know, protecting our future economic growth potential. Perhaps I'm a protectionist? Time for the U.S. government to focus on serving and helping US!
Please take a moment to sign Howard Dean's new petition. He would like 250,000 signatures in favor of the public option. You can find it at the top of the comment section in my profile. Thanks.
Actually anyone should be able to do plastic surgery even without any training. Obviously no one would work with you, no hospital would hire you and you'd have no patients.
Just like Underwriters Laboratories Inc provides stamps of approval on safety for everyday products, the same should be for doctors. It requires no government involvement at all.
Yep. He never mentions that government is nothing but the administrative and clerical staff and private police forces of the monopolies, oligopolies and cartels.
Something about little Dr. Butter Wouldn't Melt in His Mouth has always irked me.
because you're stupid and think others owe you the fruits of their labor? freedom of speech and religion cost nothing to provide. shelter, food, water, health care etc, if made rights, can only be done by forcing others to give up the fruits of their labor for yourself. simple basic argument. and that is that i can give you the fruits of my labor charitably - but hell no you are not entitled to taking them by force.
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It's about assuring that there is a basic quality of life for everyone who contributes to the country, and that includes making sure that everyone has access to health care. Clearly the private sector has shit the bed.
Tell you what, how about you live somewhere by yourself. Create your own one man state. And refuse to be any part of any society, and then talk to me about living off the fruits of your labor. You live in a society, and, like it or not, you have some responsibility for others.
There is no right to medical care in the US Constitution. And there sure as hell is no authority for the federal government to mandate Americans to buy health insurance. If you want healthcare then save your money. Paul helps you do this by advocates the lowest taxes and state rights. Many people claim Paul is not compassionate. The opposite is true. Paul is a defender of life and the liberty to take care of yourself. Only the irresponsible criticize Ron Paul on his constitutional beliefs.
Jononutoob 4 months ago
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights, adopted by the United Nations in 1948, proclaimed that "everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of oneself and one's family, including food, clothing, housing, and medical care."
asvoth 5 months ago
@asvoth The UN has no right to try to govern the US .Everybody has the right to access to Health care no matter if they can pay it or not .The Gov forcing me to buy it,taking my taxes to buy it ,making me pay for someone elses that is not a right .That is socialisim it wont happen here .As far as the UN goes they can ALL go to Hell with a quickness ,we dont want them here anyway.They also give human rights abusers seats on the HR commissions
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democratsaresmart 6 months ago
I am a Canadian, who's lived in Canada my entire life....you Americans need to LISTEN TO THIS MAN!! EVERYTHING he says about government and healthcare is TRUE!!! We here in Canada do not have to pay for medicare directly...but we pay dearly in other ways...we wait MONTHS for desperately needed operations...we waith 6+ hours to see a doctor...our taxes are over 35% for the average earner, 45+% for high earners (on top of 13% sales taxes)...let the market work, get govt out, and you will win.
moosh27 11 months ago 5
@moosh27 This comment...Win.
SongsFromDangerDays 10 months ago
@moosh27 Well, here in America if you get laid off and you or someone in your family needs a surgery, you have to wait 6 months to get treated for a preexisting condition once you're eligible for insurance again (which usually totals to be a year or more later). Waiting months doesn't seem so bad. And when I call to make an appointment with my doctor, I sometimes have to schedule a month out. And we don't pay that much less in taxes.
nexus1g 8 months ago
@nexus1g I honestly don't think you pay anything close in taxes that us Candians do. Besides paying 35-40% income tax, we have outrageous property tax, liqour tax (26oz of vodka is $30!...a 12 pack of beer is $20), it cost $100 a year to have your vehicle plated, etc....it's insane. All the while medicare is crumbling before our eyes. i'm not saying that you have it better, I'm just noting that what Ron is saying is the truth behind what happens to prices with govt involvement.
moosh27 8 months ago
@nexus1g and what is the most unfortunate aspect of universal healthcare in Canada, is you have an entire population at the mercy of government, to the point where no matter what our politicians do, no one protests out of fear that they we may somehow lose our medicare and the countless other social programs our govt runs. That is not freedom....freedom is having the ability to keep the fruits of your labor, and letting competition for your $ to drive innovation, and prices down.
moosh27 8 months ago
to bad we dont adress Mr. Paul as Mr. President
bigpete5964 1 year ago
@bigpete5964 How about Dr. President. One of the things I respect about Ron Pual is that he's a real Doctor. Not some Academic PhD.
ECJ49 11 months ago
Nice to finally hear someone say, "No one has the right to medical care.'
chewyandrolo 1 year ago
@chewyandrolo Wow, fuck... Anarcho-Capitalists now officially give me the creeps ._.
Ron Paul... You Fail! XD
MrScar7X 1 year ago
@MrScar7X cool smiley faces broski.
jimmymcclukcluk 11 months ago
@MrScar7X
Actually Ron Paul supporters are not "Anarcho-Capitalists" (nice term creation) they are "Free-market Capitalists"...I assume you have no knowledge of the constitution or Dr. Paul to make such an obvious mischaracterization...
How is an advocation for the Rule of law in anyway related to Anarchy? I didn't know the advocation for a constitutionaly bound republic equates to advocating no government at all....thanks for the disinformative lesson.
EmptyBottleTherapies 10 months ago
@EmptyBottleTherapies You are correct. Free-market capitalism does not mean de abolition of the state. I correct my statement: "Free-market capitalists officially give me the creeps" and so does your constitution if it says that no one has right to access health care. =)
MrScar7X 10 months ago
@MrScar7X
You can say 'you have right to whatever' because talk is cheap. It doesn't change the fact, that there is a price to pay. Free market makes the price to go down. False sense of security "market" drives the price up. Everyone has access to the well but there is no water.
MrDanielBowman74 4 months ago
@EmptyBottleTherapies Capitalism with the abolition of the state (Anarcho-Capitalism) does exist. It may not technically be anarchism from a more abstract point of view though.
MrScar7X 10 months ago
@MrScar7X Your not getting it, health care is a privledge not a right. Why does anyone have a right to take tax dollars from people that pay taxes so that they can get health care? In the US were guaranteed our right to life and property and thats how it should be.
dulkin316 9 months ago
@dulkin316 Health care being a privilege fails when hard-working, responsible people are being laid off left and right. Then when they get a job, they have to work there for 3-6 months before they're eligible for health care again and then will have a 6-month waiting period for preexisting conditions. This is why health care as a privilege fails. In an ideal world, that concept could work, but we are definitely not living in an ideal world.
nexus1g 8 months ago
contrary to popular opinion, noone owes you anything
pipersmitty 1 year ago
god bless ron paul. laying out all of his points and explaining them logically. unfortunately, all the bipartisan congressman are almost certainly doodling or sleeping all the while.
Willabeast2 1 year ago
When did the principles of "Liberty" overtake the principles of basic human decency? We've had Universal Health care for a long time in Canada and I have never heard anyone complain (personally or nationally) that "people are freeloading" Healthcare isn't a "right" to us. Healthcare is a unifying sense of pride where we say to each other "I've got your back. I don't even have to know you but I've got your back" It must be asked...are Americans truly different?
Lennon4life1968 1 year ago
@Lennon4life1968 The "I've got your back" part is ok, because in that sense, it's voluntary. Except with UHC it's not voluntary. You may be used to it because you've had it for a long time. If you want to give your money to others for their medical care, that's a nice and caring thing to do. But when the government is telling you that you have to, that is force. And if they can force you to chip in for other's medical bills, they can do it for anything they deem for the "greater good".
3rdEchel0n 1 year ago
@3rdEchel0n ..you're forgetting that these people would also help pay for you. I'm sorry but I can't say that the health of another person should be risked only because you have a fear of government.
Lennon4life1968 1 year ago
@Lennon4life1968 But I'm not asking anyone to help me, and their offer to help me shouldn't force me to help them. And this debate has nothing really to do with government. Nobody, no entity, should force you to give your labor up for the well being of another. I'm sure I sound heartless, but this is about force, and what you can be forced to give up for the sake of the great good. Healthcare is a good thing, but then it turns into the Military-Industrial Complex and Farm subsidies.
3rdEchel0n 1 year ago
I think I recall reading somewhere that we all have unalienable rights of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
Apart from that we being the only 1st world country with 40 million uninsured, 20-40,000 deaths a year thereof, and the highest per capita costs, Ron Paul's suggestion was: "fuck sick people, if they had only practiced witchcraft in the first place they would have never gotten sick."
Ron Paul is a category 5 moron.
Bellantoni 1 year ago
I love you Ron Paul, but homeopathy is BULLSHIT.
Redfingers 1 year ago
Ron Paul, souless, heartless, libertarian. Typical of this small thinking man.
SlightyDisturbedNBK 1 year ago
@SlightyDisturbedNBK SlightlydisturbedNBK, stupid, dreamer, socialist. Typical of idiots that don't understand economics.
kakahass 1 year ago
@kakahass Typical right wing response I was expecting, if in doubt call it a socialist. I understand enough about economic theory to know that Ron Paul talks out his ass.
SlightyDisturbedNBK 1 year ago
@SlightyDisturbedNBK i was once like you but then grew up :)
kakahass 1 year ago
@kakahass I didn't know there were people over 65 who hung out on youtube
Bellantoni 1 year ago
@Bellantoni yea unalienable rights of life (meaning you cannot take someone else's life), Liberty (no one can force you to live a certain way or pay into things you don't want) and pursuit of happiness (everyone has the same opportunity to work hard and succeed) so where does health care come in? in none of those- if you think people have a right to health care then you will also go on to say you have a right to a car, a house and a imac computer with broadband....
kakahass 1 year ago
@kakahass People have the right to health care in the same way that they have the right to life.
I don't think that life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness needs any commentary attached to the terms; they're pretty self-explanatory.
And yes, as the next line in the declaration says, securing these rights should be the only job of government, but if a man doesn't have a job or an income (said MLK), he has none of these, he merely exists.
Bellantoni 1 year ago
@Bellantoni the next line reads "That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government" Now a govt cannot secure health care without removing "liberty" from the people by excessive taxation- the reason why the declaration was signed in the 1st place.
kakahass 1 year ago
@kakahass It wasn't excessive taxation, it was the British East India Company had a bad year so they made the English Parliament tax tea in America to compensate for the loss, Americans would never see a dime of that money it was all to go straight to the EIC, hence the phrase 'no taxation without representation.'
You simply cannot say that a single payer system will be more expensive than a privatized one, the US spends more per capita than any country on Earth in health care costs.
Bellantoni 1 year ago
@Bellantoni i hate having my email make a sound everytime someone replies on youtube- but ill reply and have a break from work :) the question is not whether it will be more expensive- but more efficient. As an economist- it is basic knowledge that govt cannot redirect capital efficiently, and you will probably get taxed more than you will receive in healthcare. A libertarian position is not "poor people can go and die" but "a free market will provide healthcare much cheaper than any govt could"
kakahass 1 year ago
@kakahass But they do direct capital. I mean you might be right in saying they shouldn't or they have no business too, and so forth, however, virtually all capital developments in history have come from the state sector: computers, internet, railroads, commercial airlines, containerization, mass production, agribusiness etc. The USA has the biggest state sector and most protected economy in history, companies like Boeing and IBM live off military contracts. The free market, sadly, is a myth.
Bellantoni 1 year ago
@Bellantoni LOL i couldn't help laughing at the comment that all economies that have developed have developed because of the state- that is an absolutely false statement. was the plane invented by the govt? or was the car invented by congress? Most successful ventures begin with individual entrepreneurs - just like how drug companies and not the govt come up with new medicinal formulas- that is why we have things like patents...i really don't know where you get your ideas from. mises.org
kakahass 1 year ago
@kakahass Yes the wright brothers were only able to complete their jobs after they got a government grant and afterwards planes were manufactured by the USAF. World class medical facilities and treatments are developed in medical schools in america like Johns Hopkins, Harvard, Yale etc whose research is entirely state funded (NIH, NSF etc). Look into the origins of silicon valley, it was the center of naval, air force and NASA research. The dynamacy of technological innovation comes from the MIC
Bellantoni 1 year ago
Paul is right on on every take!
AUgrad00 1 year ago
GIVE 'EM HELL RON!
Skevvy 1 year ago
Ron Paul is a first class libertarian asshole.
jmck53 1 year ago
Ru Paul is right.
Ipetratz 1 year ago
such a right "endorses the notion that some individuals have the right to someone else´s life and property. this totally contradicts the principles of liberty."
yes, mr. paul, but liberty again contradicts the principles of equality and in a world, where the promise of equal opportunities for all has become a mere joke, liberty should have to step back a notch. flaws in our system promote inequality and need to be fixed by redistribution.
mazze00 1 year ago
@mazze00
If you watch the video of him on Larry King (Unaired (supposedly)) he defends his position with "not everyone has a right to a house and when the Government decided everyone has a right to a house it created this housing bubble." The Founding Fathers wrote "right to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" they didn't write that we have the right to a house, food or medical care.
cliffy827 1 year ago
Too much to answer.
Topic though.
Nobody have any more rights than are given to them.
If you want to live together in peace and prosperity as a social creature there will have to be cooperation.
You will have to weigh freedom (cost) and benefit.
Is the little decrease in freedom not worth in itself and together as a whole the right not worth taking care of the dying child outside the hospital in rich prosperous nation?
Paul wollow in luxury and say no to the dying child.
peope1976 1 year ago
Ron Paul for 2012
bodybuilder444444 1 year ago
Jesus, there are so many holes in Libertarian logic how can one address them all in a YouTube post. PM me if interested in debate.
azbacnikorange 1 year ago
@edugebdron, other things i need that are even more important than health care that are goods and services i purchase as a results of the product of my labor, such as shelter and food.
sickmint79 1 year ago
It sure is easy to be against health care for the poor when one has an automatic federal health plan and makes $170,000 a year.
jmk3482 1 year ago
What a twat
DERBYCFC 1 year ago
Ok I have now read further...pddaniels has no clue what he is talking about.
loudchristian2112 1 year ago
ron paul is completely full of shit on healthcare.
pdaniels9000 2 years ago
How? Please point to a specific time segment with which you disagree.
highonhayek 2 years ago
well, (1) he says the right to health care obstructs other people's right to life and property which basically translates to "only those that can afford health care deserve it". (2) he says universal healthcare can only be provided by an "authoritarian" government which is bullshit and unsubstantiated. (3) he says putting money into government only causes higher prices and lower quality care (look at medicare)
pdaniels9000 2 years ago
Two weeks ago I would've argued with a stranger over the internet on this issue.
But now that Health Care Reform is undergoing rigor mortis [see Ted Kennedy's throne] I'm not going to waste valuable keystrokes.
But if I was going to give you some good news, it's that the free-market reforms proposed by Dr. Paul will continue to be ignored by the press & the congress and that in all likelihood the current system of crony-capitalism will stay long and strong.
Have a happy and healthy life.
highonhayek 2 years ago
You wanna know what real health care reform is? Look at France, Germany, Britain, Japan, or almost any industrialized nation competing with America. They don't have outstanding coverage compared to us because they have a "free market" health care. They have single-payer, state-insured health care because its more cost effective and its the right thing to do.
pdaniels9000 2 years ago
I told myself that I wouldn't feed the trolls but now I can't resist.
Please elaborate on what you mean by "outstanding coverage".
And please explain how medical care, from the non-essential to the absolutely critical, is better served under a government monopoly compared to a system of profits and losses -- i.e., a market.
And if medicine under a single-payer system is preferable to a system of profits and losses, what reason could you have to not extend that logic to everything??
highonhayek 2 years ago
(1) By outstanding coverage I mean that citizens of those countries get free medical care for their whole life and it costs much less on average to cover each person under the government system.
(2) I love how you use the term "monopoly" to give government an inherently "evil" label. I don't think that we should ban private hospitals but I think the government should be able to compete with the private sector. If people like the gov't system better, than it should be kept.
pdaniels9000 2 years ago
@pdaniels9000 Where do you think the government will get the money to pay for and run a health care system? The government does not make money! It takes money! Almost 60% of the American people do not pay taxes so that means people who work their selves silly to get ahead will be taxed up the waazoo to pay for it! Also, if you haven't figured it out yet, you will be scheduled or lotteried just to get in to see a "government doctor"!! Good luck with that!
coleyman1 1 year ago
@coleyman1 of course the government takes money, but that's how we pay for things like roads and schools. by the way, middle class taxes have actually been reduced since Obama has been in office.
pdaniels9000 1 year ago
@pdaniels9000 Look, you have not even read HB 3200 and I have! You have to be very young and stupid to think that this health care bill is going to be just paid for by the very rich! Ask you mom and dad what they think about HB3200 and it's intrusion in their private lives and forcing them to buy insurance or be fined! I would love it if everyone had access to insurance, but that is not everyone's right! It is the right of everyone to recieve health care when they need it, however.
coleyman1 1 year ago
@coleyman1 well what's your solution to giving people access to medical care? or making sure that people don't have to pay for huge surgeries or medicine? one thing about the countries that you've lived in is that people there have access to free medical care and they are much healthier than we are. that is a fact that you cannot dispute.
pdaniels9000 1 year ago
@pdaniels9000 NOTHING is free!Taxes in most European countries range anywhere from 45% to 70%!They can see a doctor when they get sick without paying,as well.The problem with Socialist programs like that is,no one has unlimited access to doctors,you wait in line or enter a lottery system for office visits,and diasnostic procedures and surgeries take months!My neighbor is a Canadian doctor that moved to the U.S. because of this!Wake up! Progressive and socialist programs suck!
coleyman1 1 year ago
@coleyman1 so would you rather that families go bankrupt over medical bills? you do know that 60% of bankruptcies in America are related to medical bills right?
pdaniels9000 1 year ago
@pdaniels9000 I hate seeing anyone go bankrupt or have financial hardships over any situation, but there are so many established programs where aid is available for people who do not have the resources to pay for medical care already. Anyone who goes bankrupt in this country over medical expenses just hasn't contacted the right agency! No one constitutionally has the right to any type of subsistance. That is NOT what the government is for.
coleyman1 1 year ago
@coleyman1 can you name one of these "many" established programs? let's say a working father with three children get's lung cancer. how would he get covered for radiation, chemo, medication, or surgery if his insurance company decided to drop him?
not to mention, how do we make up for the effect this has on our economy when families all over the country are handing over virtually all of their savings and disposable income to health insurance companies?
pdaniels9000 1 year ago
(3) Why can't we say some things are better off in the private sector and some things are better served by the public sector?
Also, having private insurance just makes the premiums pot smaller for greedier people; people who want the most benefits from their money. Health care reform would make the money pot bigger for more people to benefit from equally. It would also make the health system more efficient if more people are covered more frequently.
pdaniels9000 2 years ago
what those countries have is managed care at the cost of high taxes, said taxes not meaning you get the best quality service for your money. you get what the government is willing to pay for and universal covers some of the basics. if you have a serious pre existing condition or need surgery you get on a waiting list. we don't need the government managing health care.
baserunner316 1 year ago
Have you been to a truly "white trash" town? places like Flint, Michigan or certain areas in the Appalacian Mountains? Some places don't even have access to procedures to fix a cleft palate.
In European countries, people in lower class towns get basic quality care.
Btw, there will always be shortages in medical coverage as long as society is competing for it (private insurance does it all the time). But if we can invest in preventative care, there will be less demand for expensive coverage.
pdaniels9000 1 year ago
@pdaniels9000 Whoa, I think you have your facts wrong!! France, Germany, Great Britain and most other European countries DO NOT have what is called "free market" system type health care. Their health care is governmant run and controlled. That's why when they have serious medical problems they come to the U. S. for treatment! We (U.S.) have a free market system that just went south with OBAMA CARE!!
coleyman1 1 year ago
@coleyman1 actually most of those countries still have private insurance companies that compete with government insurance.
and where did you hear that Europeans come all the way to the US to be treated? maybe the extremely well-off Europeans. but I think its important for the government to make sure that (1) everybody has equal access to health care and (2) the demand for expensive surgeries and medication go down.
pdaniels9000 1 year ago
@pdaniels9000 First of all, you need to read what you wrote and ask yourself if that really makes sense! I lived in Munich for four years and in London for one and you are wrong, oh so wrong! Only the very, very rich can afford private insurance in both Germany and England. Most of the general population is bound to government health care. The problem is no matter who your provider is, you can't get in to see a doctor nor get a procedure done!
coleyman1 1 year ago
You sir, are a lemming.
loudchristian2112 1 year ago
i don't know what im talking about??? how exactly?
pdaniels9000 1 year ago
I like this guy. He makes a good points.
100GeorgeSPatton 2 years ago
That is the dumbest shit i have read in a while
Elasaltaculos 2 years ago
Fluoridated water is causing lots of people to be sick.
See the Health Effects Database at FluorideACTION . net
hotwaterish 2 years ago
I would actually trust a Nurse Practitioner more so than a doctor, and a holistic doctor more so than either of them. However, in America, big lobbyists like the AMA and PharmCo have made it completely a monopoly not allowing us alternatives like much other healthier countries.
We don't need health care ruled by government, we need government to kick out the lobbyists of the pharmacy companies and regulate how much we are charged.
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2besavedcom 2 years ago
i didnt watch the clip fully, but if you think carefully about every point for about 5 minutes, most of them are ridiculous.
monkfishseye 2 years ago
dr. paul is so commonsensical. simply put, he is a genius!
ndfootballch 2 years ago
I know he wants to get rid of the federal reserve and I couldn't agree more however his answer is the "market" should regulate the currency. I can't wrap my head around that, considering there would be an exponential demand for currency and we would be back at square one. I like the idea of some kind of public and transparent regulation. It's a necessary evil.
catbuffalo 2 years ago
You people are dumb ... his point is if the government provided everything we deemed necessary ... the government would have to issue food, clothes, homes, and everything else people feel is a "need". The government should not provide healthcare ... open your eyes people ... if you people could open your eyes you would see that Ron Paul is a patriot. He is the only one speaking out against big government, and the ultimate one world government, read a fucking history book
kmc0172 2 years ago
i personally enjoy my canadian healthcare system i like not being scared to go to clinic because it might put me out 25 dollers
Dasconscripts 2 years ago
you are a common criminal, you are stealing people's money when you go to the doctor. and your system has already failed. you deserve it
otmshankshank 2 years ago
how have i stolen other peoples money through taxes I PAY FOR HEALTH CARE everyone gets sick at somepoint so we all pay for eachother you my friend need a lesson in what society means
Dasconscripts 2 years ago
you live in a poor socialist country with very few freedoms. we have a federal constitution in the US that says govt can't steal from one person and give to another. rich people pay for your healthcare because you are a loser and can't do it yourself. pathetic
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"Ron pauls an asshole. People should have a right to healthcare. "
Ron Paul is an evil neocon Hitler.
moronpaul 2 years ago
Ron pauls an asshole. People should have a right to healthcare. No one can have an existance of life, liberity and the pursute of happiness if there coughing up there ffking bloody lungs.
Our people should be looked upon and investment not a burden.
As far as Obamas healthcare plan goes, its shit and socialistic vomit. There is a proper way to do it, but both of these guys are fkn clueless.
The majority needs to step up and put the rich minority in place ni4d*dot*us
kyeot 2 years ago
or maybe you're an asshole, because you think you have a right to the fruits of someone else's labor.
sickmint79 2 years ago 8
No, your the asshole who can sit idly by and watch another American die
kyeot 2 years ago
that has nothing to do with it being a right or not. although i'm not sure someone as dumb as you would understand this. what are you 14?
sickmint79 2 years ago
It has everything to do with it you sick fuck
kyeot 2 years ago
kyeot, according to your moron logic, i should be able to sit around all day and do absolutely nothing, and while you work 40 hours a week, i should be able to take your money from 10 hours a week and pay for my home, food, shelter and health care, because they are rights. i have a right to them, i can't make my own home, so it must be provided from me, and i will use your money to build it. that sounds logical to you? you're cool with that?
sickmint79 2 years ago 11
@sickmint79 The only problem with that is people who work full time and more and even make a decent amount of money can't afford adequate healthcare. And what about students? Many work harder than you likely ever will but aren't afforded healthcare.
azbacnikorange 1 year ago
@azbacnikorange huh? i have been a student. and i long for how easy things were those days! congratulations on finding a problem with the price of health care, i have a problem with it too. however this has absolutely nothing to do with rights, and everything to do with economics. it does not take much research to see that government has played a large role in in getting price to where it it these days.
sickmint79 1 year ago
@sickmint79
Good sir, I say this to you, mr. Pail and all market-liberals alike: if you apply your ideals consistently you would not be market-liberals but rather anarcho-Capitalists. One does not have a right to force someone else to provide a service, under this motion nationalized medicare is rejected my market-liberals such as Paul, if this principle is applied consistently you'll see that a right to protection of services cannot be guaranteed by the state but rather it must by the market.
GodOfTheInternets 1 year ago
@GodOfTheInternets mr. Paul*
GodOfTheInternets 1 year ago
@sickmint79 Sure i am certain everything you have access to is sheer product of your labor...., yeah right
EdugeBDroN 1 year ago
@dadw5boys....should be hit in head with Atlas Shruggs till osmosis takes effect.
libralssuck 2 years ago
Ayn was also known as the house quest who will never leave
dadw5boys 2 years ago
@dadw5boys: you urgently need to read some books about the free market, true competition and the profit motive.
Lobbelt 2 years ago
free market ?
Never had a Free Market !!
Barrier to Entry Laws ~
dadw5boys 2 years ago
More gems of wisdom from the man who should be President.
cartoonglutton 2 years ago
Say what you will as long as the Central Banks control your money you have CRONY CAPITALISM.
The Public Option is only a Defensive Move on the part of the American People to protect themselve from the Banks !!!!!!
Look at Eroupe they have been dealing with Central Bankers and their TRADE GAME for 300 years longer than us !
Can't we learn from history ?????
dadw5boys 2 years ago
What do you do for a living? Have you ever looked at your gross income versus your net income? I can assure you that its not the corporations or the banks that are taking 33% of your wage away from you. The big screen tv you were able to purchase and the car you drive. That wasn't from the government that was from capitalism. But unfortunately, you are right, we didn't learn from history. Our founding fathers pleaded with the country to stay away from the bankers but Coolidge in 1912 sold us out
Orionx26 2 years ago
Orionx26 --- The MAYO CLINIC proves that Tort Reform is not needed daily. .
Ask your self this. How many classes did you have on diet and health ?
Few Chemical in our food chain has ever been tested for Synergistic Effect on the Human Body,
How the chemical react in combination with others. Say a Preservatives reaction to an acid in soft drinks ?
Or ask your self why few Americans are never tested for Paracites !!!!!!
Do Doctors just help us live with our ALIEN ?????
dadw5boys 2 years ago
We have had classes on diet and health. We have pharmacology... it talks about preservatives. Every human being on the planet has parasites most of them being part of the normal flora of the body. But if there is some type of helminth or any kind of harmful prokaryote we will get rid of it.
Tort reform does need to happen. If doctors had some form of protection against frivolous lawsuits our malpractice wouldn't be so high and costs would come down.
Orionx26 2 years ago
They have that already.
Why would a Doctor not treat a woman for STD's instead of ordering tons of trets when it has been show over and over in thousands of test that (spelling) Clymidia hide under the cyist on the tubes and ovaries. Just treating her would allow many many women to have children but no there is TOO MUCH PROFiT THERE from test !
See this is the knid of crap that needs to go!
dadw5boys 2 years ago
The tests are to rule out other disease that it could possibly be. If tests are not preformed a doctor could possibly treat the wrong bug and the infection could become life threatening. Would you rather the doc treat before he has ruled out al other possibilities?
Orionx26 2 years ago
How many times would a Doctor need to see cystic on Ovaries before he would say that 10,000 tests on other women have shon the this STD will not come up on a test it is hidden. Buit it is the cause of the problems.
How many? 10 million because I would venture to say that many test have been done in the last 50 years.
See wasted money. If the Doctor can't learn from 50 years of pretty advanced testing they might need to do something else !
dadw5boys 2 years ago
You would have to go thru medical school to understand why Cysts on an ovary is not specific for chlamydia. It could be a range of other things including chronic inflammation of the ovaries or idiopathic reasons. So basically, you are misinformed. This is an all tigers are cats but not all cats are tigers issue. Which means that women with chronic chlamydia have cysts but on all women with cysts have chlamydia, can be do to something else. The treat cost money too and we could be treating wrong
Orionx26 2 years ago
Chances are you will marry a woman who will not be able to get pragnate until it is cured so the egg will drop into the womb. And she will go nuts and take you with her,
dadw5boys 2 years ago
What in the world are you talking about?
Orionx26 2 years ago
He went online to try to find quotes to hang with the convo
libralssuck 2 years ago
Your a troll.
Orionx26 2 years ago
Only a few Medical School have Diet and Health classes over the last 30 years.
Recently many rushed to add them when it becaome clear SELLING DRUGS was their business and treat symptoms not finding cures for illnesses.
dadw5boys 2 years ago
The need for TORT LAW REFORM has alrwady been proved wrong by the MAYO CLINIC and a 10 Year Study of Hospital Medical Records by Harvard Medical School.
Tort Reform is just a claim used to keep ordering too many test and excessive billing.
dadw5boys 2 years ago
I just learned in class today why I have to order too many tests and charge excessive bills. It because if something goes wrong... Its my fault and I lose my ability to support myself and my family because even non disciplinary actions results in me losing patients under different insurance coverages. Not to mention malpractice. So its in my best interest, regardless of costs to cover my ass and cover it well, because when something does go wrong... The doctor is not protected.
Orionx26 2 years ago
This all Bull Ron and you know it.
As long as there is a Central Bank and the Federal Reserve there no value in money expect debt.
Also the can never be Cappitalism as long as there are BARRIER TO ENTRY LAWS and other ANTI- COMPETITION LAWS.
Till then we have CRONY CAPITALISM !!!!
THAT IS IT !!!!!
dadw5boys 2 years ago
So all that money wasted on Air Force DRONES was wasted Paul ?????
dadw5boys 2 years ago
No, Chambers Of Commerce are lawful and are nothing to do with anti-trust activity.
PersianPaladin 2 years ago
Ron Paul would be good in the Wild Wild West. everyone for themselves.
eye7view 2 years ago
What a poor comment. Ron Paul simply advocates freedom and personal responsibility. If a person is not allowed to fail or is provided all their needs, what is the incentive to better themslves?
I came from a modest background but now run my own successful business because I worked my behind off.
The government didn't give me a thing and I was STILL successful.
robert7232 2 years ago
Listen to Ron Paul...He's also a doctor not just another politician.
spliffsperlunk is right.
EndTheFedRes 2 years ago
Ro nPaul isnt stupid he realizes like most that everything the government gets its hands on turns int oa huge blackhole of spending, healthcare needs reform but it shouldnt be socialized.
spliffsperlunk 2 years ago
There is no such thing as a "free market" and there never was.
Reason?
Businesses and corporations COLLECTIVIZE regardless of government. They form groups known as "chambers of commerce" that support their interests. They then hypocritically attack workers for forming their own unions.
You think the consumer is actually fully informed about the full socio-economic activities of businesses? That would be very naive. They care about profits above your health or well-being.
PersianPaladin 2 years ago
#1 is constitutionally sound
#2...How is the current health insurance monopoly not an "authoritarian system unconcerned about the rights of the individual." It clearly is, and clearly they dont care about individuals...
He barely addresses it in his 3rd point...
And #8 is happening right now...insurance company bureaucrats...
#10 - insurance companies have 94% of the market nationwide so thats not gonna do much
#14, 15, 16 - right on!
EnhancementSmoker 2 years ago
You'll get nothing and like it! hahahaha
BeantownJim 2 years ago
they think they are ENTITLED to healthcare! Wrong country for entitlements
BeantownJim 2 years ago
halcy
you guessed it right!
GetLostInCompost 2 years ago
We will never have enough food, water, energy or health care until we redesign our world to look at ALL people's needs over a FEW people's profits.
The government is NOT the answer either. All governments are bought and paid for by the international bankers and corporations.
We need to look at the ROOT CAUSE of all these problems and that is the monetary system. Without money the only question is do we have the resources and technology to create an abundance of life's necessities, YES WE DO!
jgaltut 2 years ago
wake up we have borders, just mind your own
marniespeaks 2 years ago
When we enslave each other with taxation for welfare causes we do not allow individuals to give freely we have silenced their own individual voice to help out. Everyone knows that being able to give to others is a much more fulfilling experience then having the government take their own personal property and spend it as the central planners see fit which is often a much worse solution then those that come from caring passionate people.
Individuals > Governmental Actions (which are 100% force)
Patriot4Liberty1776 2 years ago 2
Congressmen Paul why do you take tax payer health care then?
For those who say Ron Paul doesn't take tax payer government health care YOU ARE WRONG - call his office, ask, they freely admin he does he. He doesn't contribute to the government tax payer pension.
Dr. Paul stop accepting Tax Payer Health Care AND if you are more Libertarian than Republican then leave the corrupt GOP money machine.
DR. PAUL LIVE YOUR PRINCIPLES
PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACHE
marniespeaks 2 years ago
Intellectual dishonestly here as you Straw man Dr. Paul
Ron Paul does not like the post office either but as he says its the only viable option we have some times, but we never have to like these FORCED options we have through the Federal Government
Given the chance for a market solution do you think Ron Paul would not take his SS or Medicare forced money taken from him and Offer to give it directly to a Doctor for coverage?
Why Cannot he do this?Why cannot any of us?
GOVERNMENT REGULATION
Patriot4Liberty1776 2 years ago 3
what, you ever heard of UPS or FEDEX?
You think it's bad now, corporations are pretty much running the government, give them full range and this country will end up like Mexico - 5 families running the show.
Without a people's government you and your kids would be slaves in a factory, like India and China
maybe you feel you need for a corporate master, most of us don't
marniespeaks 2 years ago
GOVERNMENT gives the corporations the power over the people yet you advocate for more power for the Government in our Oligarchy?
Truly laughable you don't see who truly pulls the strings and uses force over people to do things their way.
A people's Government? That is a sad Joke if I have ever heard of one.
You and I have Masters and I'm not about to spoon feed them so more power to hand over to Government Sachs, Government Electric and Government Motors. Its Fascism quit feeding the Monster
Patriot4Liberty1776 2 years ago
we are the government
marniespeaks 2 years ago
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Patriot4Liberty1776 2 years ago
No we have masters, owners, not a government from the people. We have an Oligarchy of a few ruling the masses as they want.
They run the printing presses and hold taxation over our heads at all times
This has been ever since we outsourced our money supply to the Federal Reserve back on December 23rd 1913.. The elite run the show and do what they want when they want
George Carlin explains
watch?v=wV1lZMTCqf8
Yet you want me to give up more of my Private property and liberties to them? BS~!
Patriot4Liberty1776 2 years ago 2
too late, you lost them - should have done something to stop it when Bush was in office, but you let him walk all over you
marniespeaks 2 years ago
Ron Paul has spoke time and time again about ending phony MANDATED insurance. When you do not know this why do you even spend the time posting that he is propping up the insurance companies?
Patriot4Liberty1776 2 years ago 3
Liberals can take their public option and stick it straight up their ass! No one has a right to take my money by force and give it to someone else. As if we don't have enough dependency in this country, and as if we don't have enough debt...Morons!
dchoker000 2 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Ron Paul is a douche bag ideologue who ignores facts because they contradict the ideology he worships. For him to acknowledge that dozens of governments around world do a better job on health care than our market health care, would be to acknowledge that everything he believes is a lie.
LastPosterStanding 2 years ago
Poster--you're a complete asshole for talking about an honest man like Ron in such a manner. We do not have free market health care, we have corporatism. We need to completely take insurance companies out of the picture, do away with the FDA (why? Because the FDA makes it impossible for real cures to be brought to the market due to the cost to get cures approved. If it can't be patented, then nobody pays for the trials), and make health care a doctor/patient matter once more.
nidhogge 2 years ago
Yes, and flipping houses was a great way to get rich, until all the flippers lost everything they had.
Government-financed programs are inherently unsustainable..particularly so if the people of the country are unproductive, do not accumulate savings, and routinely live on credit.
Government-run healthcare will do for medicine and medical services what Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (et al.) did to real estate.
sonofaglitch2 2 years ago
however, much of the medical industry's cutting edge technology doesn't come from the governments around the world, it comes from here...
jilseng 2 years ago
Good on ya. These dupes don't realize that the free market they so idolize would eat them in a second.
Chemicalogic 2 years ago
Look at the evidence. Nearly every developed country in the world has a form of government supplied health care. And they all rank a lot higher than you on the WHO health list. Hmmmm.....
Put away your anti-government hard-on, and lobby for a system that is cheaper, more efficient, supported by doctors and built to serve you--the public option.
Chemicalogic 2 years ago
"Cheaper" Are you kidding me? Name one thing where the government got involved where costs went down and quality went up. There is no precedent for the free-market increasing costs. You don't understand the free market. Everyone has a responsibility to their fellow man, but no one has a right take to take another's property by force and give it to someone else. If we had free markets, small government and sound money, everyone's standard of living would increase and dependency would decrease.
dchoker000 2 years ago
Ron Paul is the man!
fromthinair 2 years ago 5
he's a doctor and economists and his proposals make a lot more sense than an ignorant youtube user blabbing in ALL CAPS EH?
sickmint79 2 years ago 3
he's on the short lists of congressman that see no lobbyists. you are just ignorant of his argument, that he is not entitled to the fruits of someone else's labor as a right.
sickmint79 2 years ago 3
State where he was lying?
martinaoe2 2 years ago
If only Obama and his advisors were only half as intellegent and concerned about what is ailing America as Ron Paul is, we all would be truly on a road to recovery. Many current laws need to be REPEALED which encourage businesses to employ production of products outside the U.S. rather than here at home. I know, that is protectionism, you know, protecting our future economic growth potential. Perhaps I'm a protectionist? Time for the U.S. government to focus on serving and helping US!
nvsyru 2 years ago
Please take a moment to sign Howard Dean's new petition. He would like 250,000 signatures in favor of the public option. You can find it at the top of the comment section in my profile. Thanks.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
No laws and no rules? Ron Paul wants to end corporatism, yet you make it sound like he wants anarchy.
Xasew 2 years ago 4
Actually anyone should be able to do plastic surgery even without any training. Obviously no one would work with you, no hospital would hire you and you'd have no patients.
Just like Underwriters Laboratories Inc provides stamps of approval on safety for everyday products, the same should be for doctors. It requires no government involvement at all.
Xasew 2 years ago 2
He is slowly entering into the Kucinich boat. He will never be taken seriously by a majority.
neverine2000 2 years ago
Ron paul 2010!!
Intervene 2 years ago
2010?
JonnyMerciless 2 years ago
to run for governor
same with rand paul, same with peter schiff
Intervene 2 years ago
I just lost a lot of respect for this free market dupe.
Chemicalogic 2 years ago
Yep. He never mentions that government is nothing but the administrative and clerical staff and private police forces of the monopolies, oligopolies and cartels.
Something about little Dr. Butter Wouldn't Melt in His Mouth has always irked me.
SilverRedIndigo 2 years ago
because you're stupid and think others owe you the fruits of their labor? freedom of speech and religion cost nothing to provide. shelter, food, water, health care etc, if made rights, can only be done by forcing others to give up the fruits of their labor for yourself. simple basic argument. and that is that i can give you the fruits of my labor charitably - but hell no you are not entitled to taking them by force.
sickmint79 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
It's about assuring that there is a basic quality of life for everyone who contributes to the country, and that includes making sure that everyone has access to health care. Clearly the private sector has shit the bed.
Tell you what, how about you live somewhere by yourself. Create your own one man state. And refuse to be any part of any society, and then talk to me about living off the fruits of your labor. You live in a society, and, like it or not, you have some responsibility for others.
Chemicalogic 2 years ago