The worrying thing is this movement wants the law to fail, to prove themselves right. If this fact doesn't make them sick paedohiles, I don't know what does.
All these pro-smacking people are pretty much braindead. They ought to try visiting a real dictatorship like Nth Korea. The paedophiles don't know which side their bread's buttered on.
They're demanding the right to treat their kids sadistically, but punishing children subconciously stimulates pleasure centers in their brains. Their reaction is always "I don't enjoy hitting them", which would not be true if they truely believed in their convictions - enough to march the streets! Why would any 'regular' parent enjoy hitting children? Or 'smacking' as they call it. SICKOS!
i got hit as a kid and i learnt my lesson. kids have been hit for years. If you look at society over the last 100 years, we have slowly become so protective of rights its fukn ridiculous. Social standards are slipping, there are no morals. I cant even throw a punch now when all i am doing is respecting society as a whole, without going to prison. Due to assholes with laws like this.
I think its important to realise this issue isn't between good people and bad people. People for the bill want to protect kids from violence, and people against it want use smacking as a method of discipline because they believe it's in the child's best interest to be raised that way. No ones up there saying they want the right to beat the shit out their children. If this bill really helps lower abuse rates I'm all for it, but if it turns decent parents into criminals it ain't doing its job.
The anti smacking bill is an utter outrage, I'm furious about it & have decided to leave New Zealand because the government doesn't respect parents absolute authority over their OWN offspring. The government automatically appropriates parents' offspring as its own, therefore they are rendered property of the state. As far as I'm concerned my offspring are 100% my property & I shall raise them however I damn well see fit! Sue Bradford & Helen Clark are nothing but busybody commie whores.
Your a cock mate! Its not an outrage, I support the Anti_Smacking bill, Its about time somebody got up and said something, smacking a child is not a RIGHT you or anybody else has dickhead! You kids are your children, NOT your property, Parents who hit their kids are too fucken LAZY to "Learn" how to discipline their children by other alternative means and theres plenty of them... and your leaving NZ just so you can have the pleasure of hitting them (Poor fucken kids, I feel sorry for them)
HVNOR, Well as far as I'm concerned those words undeniably define you as a busybody COMMIE. Just WHO the fuck are YOU to dictate to me that my flesh and blood offspring are "not" my property??! The fucken CHEEK of it all!! You fucken collectivist commies think you're GOD, and that's the fucken trouble. I have the God given right to do what EVER I fucken WANT with my offspring! YOU have NO natural right to judge me or stick your filthy snotty nose into my PRIVATE business!!
I only answer to God, NOT you and your selfrighteous arrogant socialist hordes. Only God is my master. I don't listen to what you say, I don't care what you say, you are irrelevant to me just like a worm is. You have no natural authority over me. Stay up there on your self important commie high horse if that's what keeps you happy, but ever dare fuck with me and I'll cut you right down and trample you into the ground before you know it.
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get off your high horse more like it! And I'm not a commie! You know what... CYFS should take your kids off you... Your an unfit parent!!!!!!!! I still feel fucken sorry for them! Poor barstards.... Who would want a stink person like you as a parent? I don't care what you say... Your kids still aren't a piece of your bloody property... you just walk down to Kmart and buy them did ya? They are your CHILDREN! (You know I'm fucken right)... that's why your getting angry lol.
Your WEAK! You hear me... Your weak! You like to pick on kids do ya? You kiddy BASHER!!! You don't need to wack/bash/smash/smack and beat up your kids.. NO parent needs to, You need serious help! If your children don't behave then you should try something different instead of smacking... or maybe "ASK GOD" to 'DO' something about it lol. Huh? Maybe if he gives a fuck all the kids in the world would behave? duh! pifft! Then there would be no need to smack! MY ADVICE: (Take some parenting classes)
@HVNOR All kids need a smack on the bum now and then,good god are you a left wing weakling that tells your kids, O PLEASE DONT DO THAT.Get real,almost all parents give their kids a small smack you weirdo.
this government should of paid me 3 million bucks to do their job its a no brainer pass the bil as no smacking at all dum(R)s government, soon they be asking us which way should they wipe john keys (ar)se lol what a waste of time and money.
7 people got away with extreme child abuse because of "reasonable force."
The amendment is supported by Banardos, Unicef, Plunket, Save the Children, the NZPolice force and 113 Member of Parliament.
The 83% opposition to the amendment was a tv poll and so not accurate. The referendum question is misleading and terribly phrased because it says smacking a child is"part of good parenting."
Helen clark dislikes children .She has said it on another video.How can lesbians tell us how to raise children,teachers,academics,ex union reps.Labour is out of touch with families.
National supports the iraq war, they want to sell kiwi bank they have the same idiot mps that sold off all the state houses in the 90s,they want to sell more nz owned stuff,helen thinks before she acts john key is a sleaze dont trust him.
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Helen CLARK and the Labout party are dead in the water ..... and high time to. She and Michael CULLEN have long since passed their use by dates. Labour have nothing to fight national with. All they have to fall back on is personal insults, and that not working either.
I only hope National win with such a landslide that they can govern alone.
And Sue BRADFORD ............ the only MP that has ever had to have a trespass notice lifted so she can enter parliment.
Yes, well Clark is just an intellectually dishonest sloganeering radical. She claims "choice" alone justifies abortion. Yet it does not justify the following:
-school choice
-spending choice (lower taxes)
-smacking choice
-food choice
-smoking choice
-hospital choice
-private property rights
Helen Clark is emphatically ANTI-CHOICE. "Choice", for a leftwing feminist like her, is a lie used as a poor attempt to try to justify abortion.
They said there would be no frivolous prosecutions of parents for light smacking. This has turned out to be exactly what is happening. Many people have been charged for barely touching their children. Sue Bradford is a stupid communist
what a load of lying bullshitting arse licking arse holes, your stuffed Helen , but as for john key who's pocket does he reside in ???? something more sinister i hope not
I doubt that you ever read the Bill. I think its a fair call to presume that your basis of knowledge on Parliaments Bill was founded by word-of-mouth from others who didn't have a fricken clue.
When this country was formed it was legal to beat your animals, wife, slaves, and children - in 2007 all but child hitting had been banned.
This Act does not stop parents from light smacking, but it stops abusers standing before a court from using discipline as a defence. A MUCH NEEDED ACT!
More social engineering,taking rights away from parents.Nothing wrong with a small smack on the bum.Its amazing how labour always tell you how to think.I wonder why Helen has no kids?I think we all know.
Nowhere in New Zealand's Bill of Rights does it grant people the right to hit our children. Labour is New Zealand's largest liberal party - please stop confusing them with the authoritative and controlling National party.
I think you're confusing personal responsibility with control freakery. No wonder you see parents as such because you don't appreciate the benefits of correction to children, which are meant to instill responsibility for one's actions. This is actually empowering to the correctee - not limiting (except to a spoiled brat). Hiding reality from people only turns them into the worst of Labour's base: government-dependents, i.e. spoiled brats.
@jurrassicsparks More social engineering,taking rights away from parents.
Yep, thats the whole United Nations/NWO agenda being pushed thru' by BOTH the 2-horse race politcal parties in N.Z.
Trash families, remove rights of parents and make the nanny-state responsible for child raising.
Ultimate extrapolation is Stalinist like instalations raising children removed from their parents and growing up fed on nanny-state indoctrination to be good little tax-harvested slaves.
@LemmingHerda She gets kicked out of NZ but now she has the ultimate position in the UN.We all knew what she wanted and got it.It seems to be their goal to bring a socialist engineering forced down our throats even if we dont want it.Why dont they all piss off to the Sahara Desert and form their own communist country?Get rid of the Bradfords,Clarks,Mintos,Jacksons,and then all the maori shit stirrers and then this country would prosper again.
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The worrying thing is this movement wants the law to fail, to prove themselves right. If this fact doesn't make them sick paedohiles, I don't know what does.
All these pro-smacking people are pretty much braindead. They ought to try visiting a real dictatorship like Nth Korea. The paedophiles don't know which side their bread's buttered on.
Patsyorange 5 months ago
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They're demanding the right to treat their kids sadistically, but punishing children subconciously stimulates pleasure centers in their brains. Their reaction is always "I don't enjoy hitting them", which would not be true if they truely believed in their convictions - enough to march the streets! Why would any 'regular' parent enjoy hitting children? Or 'smacking' as they call it. SICKOS!
Patsyorange 5 months ago
i got hit as a kid and i learnt my lesson. kids have been hit for years. If you look at society over the last 100 years, we have slowly become so protective of rights its fukn ridiculous. Social standards are slipping, there are no morals. I cant even throw a punch now when all i am doing is respecting society as a whole, without going to prison. Due to assholes with laws like this.
FuiFuiMIKE 2 years ago
I think its important to realise this issue isn't between good people and bad people. People for the bill want to protect kids from violence, and people against it want use smacking as a method of discipline because they believe it's in the child's best interest to be raised that way. No ones up there saying they want the right to beat the shit out their children. If this bill really helps lower abuse rates I'm all for it, but if it turns decent parents into criminals it ain't doing its job.
liliumnoir 2 years ago
Good point.....
HVNOR 2 years ago
The anti smacking bill is an utter outrage, I'm furious about it & have decided to leave New Zealand because the government doesn't respect parents absolute authority over their OWN offspring. The government automatically appropriates parents' offspring as its own, therefore they are rendered property of the state. As far as I'm concerned my offspring are 100% my property & I shall raise them however I damn well see fit! Sue Bradford & Helen Clark are nothing but busybody commie whores.
namexa1 2 years ago 3
Your a cock mate! Its not an outrage, I support the Anti_Smacking bill, Its about time somebody got up and said something, smacking a child is not a RIGHT you or anybody else has dickhead! You kids are your children, NOT your property, Parents who hit their kids are too fucken LAZY to "Learn" how to discipline their children by other alternative means and theres plenty of them... and your leaving NZ just so you can have the pleasure of hitting them (Poor fucken kids, I feel sorry for them)
HVNOR 2 years ago
HVNOR, Well as far as I'm concerned those words undeniably define you as a busybody COMMIE. Just WHO the fuck are YOU to dictate to me that my flesh and blood offspring are "not" my property??! The fucken CHEEK of it all!! You fucken collectivist commies think you're GOD, and that's the fucken trouble. I have the God given right to do what EVER I fucken WANT with my offspring! YOU have NO natural right to judge me or stick your filthy snotty nose into my PRIVATE business!!
KILL SOCIALIST SCUM!
namexa1 2 years ago
I only answer to God, NOT you and your selfrighteous arrogant socialist hordes. Only God is my master. I don't listen to what you say, I don't care what you say, you are irrelevant to me just like a worm is. You have no natural authority over me. Stay up there on your self important commie high horse if that's what keeps you happy, but ever dare fuck with me and I'll cut you right down and trample you into the ground before you know it.
namexa1 2 years ago
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get off your high horse more like it! And I'm not a commie! You know what... CYFS should take your kids off you... Your an unfit parent!!!!!!!! I still feel fucken sorry for them! Poor barstards.... Who would want a stink person like you as a parent? I don't care what you say... Your kids still aren't a piece of your bloody property... you just walk down to Kmart and buy them did ya? They are your CHILDREN! (You know I'm fucken right)... that's why your getting angry lol.
HVNOR 2 years ago
Your WEAK! You hear me... Your weak! You like to pick on kids do ya? You kiddy BASHER!!! You don't need to wack/bash/smash/smack and beat up your kids.. NO parent needs to, You need serious help! If your children don't behave then you should try something different instead of smacking... or maybe "ASK GOD" to 'DO' something about it lol. Huh? Maybe if he gives a fuck all the kids in the world would behave? duh! pifft! Then there would be no need to smack! MY ADVICE: (Take some parenting classes)
HVNOR 2 years ago
@HVNOR take a chill pill :)
arumdevil 1 year ago
@HVNOR All kids need a smack on the bum now and then,good god are you a left wing weakling that tells your kids, O PLEASE DONT DO THAT.Get real,almost all parents give their kids a small smack you weirdo.
jurrassicsparks 1 year ago
You answer mostly to your sick sexual inclinations. You need to be removed from society where you are doing harm.
By the way, 'spare the rod, spoil the child' does not mean your rod is your penis, or your hand on childrens bottoms. Find some help.
Patsyorange 5 months ago
NZ is happy to be rid of you shameful paedophiles.
I pity the children you will be smacking overseas, you dirty sex pervert.
Patsyorange 5 months ago
It was always illegal to smack a child HOWEVER there was a horrible defence that was abused by rotten parents.
johnyohyeah 2 years ago
National flip flopped too!
John Key said Labour is ignoring the democracy by delaying the referendum.
Yet now he is saying he wont even bloody listen
johnyohyeah 2 years ago 2
Thank goodness for the referendum
liliumnoir 2 years ago
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HVNOR 2 years ago
this government should of paid me 3 million bucks to do their job its a no brainer pass the bil as no smacking at all dum(R)s government, soon they be asking us which way should they wipe john keys (ar)se lol what a waste of time and money.
Juicy273 2 years ago
ANTI is tha wrong term for this bill and SMACKING isn't as harsh as BASHING weatha it b man, woman or child.
Stop tha injustice to FAMS and let us live. And gyv our children back (CYFS)
l8tag8ta 2 years ago
7 people got away with extreme child abuse because of "reasonable force."
The amendment is supported by Banardos, Unicef, Plunket, Save the Children, the NZPolice force and 113 Member of Parliament.
The 83% opposition to the amendment was a tv poll and so not accurate. The referendum question is misleading and terribly phrased because it says smacking a child is"part of good parenting."
It is not!
VOTE YES FOR KIDS
headlessrd 2 years ago
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fuck labour and fuck the greens.
georgewtwat 3 years ago
People only hate your comment because its true.
Stevo443 2 years ago
Yes Prime Minister. It is a crime to hit anybody. Why was it that Pete Hodgson, Trevor Mallard and David Benson Pope never charged.
What a flip flopper!
malvadoburro 3 years ago
Helen clark dislikes children .She has said it on another video.How can lesbians tell us how to raise children,teachers,academics,ex union reps.Labour is out of touch with families.
jurrassicsparks 3 years ago
National supports the iraq war, they want to sell kiwi bank they have the same idiot mps that sold off all the state houses in the 90s,they want to sell more nz owned stuff,helen thinks before she acts john key is a sleaze dont trust him.
MotherEarthnz 3 years ago
And on a personal note .............. Helen and Sue would have to be some of the ugliest fukin women in the country.
They both have a face like a bull dog chewing a bumble bee.
wogga8 3 years ago
John key has a big hooter he aint pretty, ,
MotherEarthnz 3 years ago
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Helen CLARK and the Labout party are dead in the water ..... and high time to. She and Michael CULLEN have long since passed their use by dates. Labour have nothing to fight national with. All they have to fall back on is personal insults, and that not working either.
I only hope National win with such a landslide that they can govern alone.
And Sue BRADFORD ............ the only MP that has ever had to have a trespass notice lifted so she can enter parliment.
wogga8 3 years ago
Helen needs that wimpy husband of hers to give her a good smack
zebul0n7 3 years ago
hey fat cats guess what.. john retart key voted for the anti smacking law
MotherEarthnz 3 years ago
Only after he had it amended. And it's retard.
malvadoburro 3 years ago
Yes, well Clark is just an intellectually dishonest sloganeering radical. She claims "choice" alone justifies abortion. Yet it does not justify the following:
-school choice
-spending choice (lower taxes)
-smacking choice
-food choice
-smoking choice
-hospital choice
-private property rights
Helen Clark is emphatically ANTI-CHOICE. "Choice", for a leftwing feminist like her, is a lie used as a poor attempt to try to justify abortion.
verypleasemeetyou 3 years ago
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I look forward to the revival of democratic process.
We'll have a referendum on this bill and we will decide rather than have laws foisted upon us by an omniscient nanny state!
malvadoburro 3 years ago
Pie
Stevo443 2 years ago
The title to this clip says it all, just another rant from another ill-informed non-entity.
sadsacksid 3 years ago
Yep. As usual the people who don't like Helen all sound really thick.
TeleCumber 3 years ago
nice to see Helen talking on the steps about smacking then Mallard comes into the view of the camera , ???
ewelmcc 3 years ago
They said there would be no frivolous prosecutions of parents for light smacking. This has turned out to be exactly what is happening. Many people have been charged for barely touching their children. Sue Bradford is a stupid communist
phillyvinilli 3 years ago
helen (harry) you are the only one is pathetic
passmeadrink 3 years ago
what a load of lying bullshitting arse licking arse holes, your stuffed Helen , but as for john key who's pocket does he reside in ???? something more sinister i hope not
ewelmcc 4 years ago
I doubt that you ever read the Bill. I think its a fair call to presume that your basis of knowledge on Parliaments Bill was founded by word-of-mouth from others who didn't have a fricken clue.
When this country was formed it was legal to beat your animals, wife, slaves, and children - in 2007 all but child hitting had been banned.
This Act does not stop parents from light smacking, but it stops abusers standing before a court from using discipline as a defence. A MUCH NEEDED ACT!
MonarchyNZ 3 years ago
More social engineering,taking rights away from parents.Nothing wrong with a small smack on the bum.Its amazing how labour always tell you how to think.I wonder why Helen has no kids?I think we all know.
jurrassicsparks 4 years ago 3
Nowhere in New Zealand's Bill of Rights does it grant people the right to hit our children. Labour is New Zealand's largest liberal party - please stop confusing them with the authoritative and controlling National party.
MonarchyNZ 3 years ago
I think you're confusing personal responsibility with control freakery. No wonder you see parents as such because you don't appreciate the benefits of correction to children, which are meant to instill responsibility for one's actions. This is actually empowering to the correctee - not limiting (except to a spoiled brat). Hiding reality from people only turns them into the worst of Labour's base: government-dependents, i.e. spoiled brats.
verypleasemeetyou 3 years ago
@jurrassicsparks More social engineering,taking rights away from parents.
Yep, thats the whole United Nations/NWO agenda being pushed thru' by BOTH the 2-horse race politcal parties in N.Z.
Trash families, remove rights of parents and make the nanny-state responsible for child raising.
Ultimate extrapolation is Stalinist like instalations raising children removed from their parents and growing up fed on nanny-state indoctrination to be good little tax-harvested slaves.
LemmingHerda 1 year ago
@LemmingHerda She gets kicked out of NZ but now she has the ultimate position in the UN.We all knew what she wanted and got it.It seems to be their goal to bring a socialist engineering forced down our throats even if we dont want it.Why dont they all piss off to the Sahara Desert and form their own communist country?Get rid of the Bradfords,Clarks,Mintos,Jacksons,and then all the maori shit stirrers and then this country would prosper again.
jurrassicsparks 1 year ago