this joshua evens is great, he doesn't even know anything our faith
saying there is no unique new way with jesus, when there is, he taught us to love God and love him, and yes there were martys for our fith like paul, steven and peter, they all had pasion for Christ and never withdrew from it. he ned to read acts for one
two, jesus didnt come to renew the law , he was it, he was new covenant
this guy is great, he doesn't even know anything our faith
saying there is no unique new way with jesus, when there is, he taught us to love God and love him, and yes there were martys for our fith like paul, steven and peter, they all had pasion for Christ and never withdrew from it. he ned to read acts for one
two, jesus didnt come to renew the law , he was it, he was new covenant
..Therefore, If the Jews, who had all of God's promises, ended up becoming Demons, can the rest of the world expect to fare any better? What solid hope can they have? So, you can see by yourself that your sincere desire to honor Jesus (by making Him God), ends up drawing a picture of God that's little more than a mockery; a sad caricature of God. Nobody wants to serve a God like that one, but rather One in whom we can rest upon; One who is not playing hide and seek, nor difficult to find. Peace
I am NOT making Him God. He existed with the Father, He is uncreated, Eternal and the Creator of all things. Even you my friend. Yes, Jesus created you and you deny Him the glory ONLY do to Him....
Now, don't believe what I just say regarding the LOGOS. I'm Jewish, and may not be impartial. Check it out by yourself! Try the following CHRISTIAN book: "A Brief Guide To Philo", by Kenneth Schenck (Pages 51-56), ISBN number 0-664-22735-X. There, you will confirm all I've said (and more) from a Christian Professor teaching at a Wesleyan University. I wish you good look in your discovery journey...Shalom
Note: Apologies for my English, not very good with it as it isn't my native language..
Regarding Jesus incarnation, the original Greek doesn't say "THE WORD" but, "THE LOGOS". This was a Greek concept. The Greeks believed that, before creating the universe, God made a thing called THE LOGOS. Simply put, it was the world of ideas, the realm of all perfect paradigms later used to create the tangible reality. John says Jesus is the LOGOS, a perfect paradigm; but, although different from the rest of creation, THE LOGOS was still just a creation of God, not God himself.
There's a logical dead-end in believing Jesus is, literally, God: You see, If Jesus is God, and He couldn't convince the Jews, then God isn't almighty; if He is God, and the Jews killed Him, then God isn't immortal. What being (other than Satan) can be so evil as to defeat and kill God? Thus, the net result of God (Jesus) walking the earth was to make Gods chosen people (the Jews) a curse. So, God curses himself, as stated in: "I will curse him who curseth thee" Gen 12:3. Is God's logic crazy?
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1. The New Testament does not have a formal doctrine of the Trinity and nowhere discusses the Trinity as such.
2. Concept of trinity was there, but Joshua speaks about Christian doctrine of Trinity (the unity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three persons in one Godhead), which was developed since the beginning of the third century
3. There was a concept of Trinity even before Jesus, but What we are talking about is the Christian doctrine of trinity that was developed after 325 Ad.
This guy is speaking in a confused way... Well Joshua's point was the same...the early followers of Jesus were right, but then the historians and paul changed the words of bible from time to time...they sometime did it intentionally and sometime unintentionally as it was copied by hand.
You seem to not have gone through the complete 48 minutes show. You also don't understand correctly what Joshua said. Don't be frustrated and understand Joshua with your calm mind.
Kashmirr brother, I am sorry but you are not reflecting Islam with your abusive attitude. Islam teaches us to respect everyone's believe and only present the truth.
I think you should apologize this guy and lets debate him with the facts and truth.
I am no one special... By the GRACE of the Risen Lord, I have any good in me. For HIS glory, any good can come from me... He destroys flasehoods becuase HE is TRUTH....
I am convinced that muslims have a mental block that disallows them to be able to think as a rational human being.
2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
there is a spiritual darkness prohibiting a Muslim from escaping their worldveiw to see the truth. It is only by the Spirit of God that opens their hearts.
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TheArchangelos 1 year ago
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this joshua evens is great, he doesn't even know anything our faith
saying there is no unique new way with jesus, when there is, he taught us to love God and love him, and yes there were martys for our fith like paul, steven and peter, they all had pasion for Christ and never withdrew from it. he ned to read acts for one
two, jesus didnt come to renew the law , he was it, he was new covenant
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
this guy is great, he doesn't even know anything our faith
saying there is no unique new way with jesus, when there is, he taught us to love God and love him, and yes there were martys for our fith like paul, steven and peter, they all had pasion for Christ and never withdrew from it. he ned to read acts for one
two, jesus didnt come to renew the law , he was it, he was new covenant
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
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followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
..Therefore, If the Jews, who had all of God's promises, ended up becoming Demons, can the rest of the world expect to fare any better? What solid hope can they have? So, you can see by yourself that your sincere desire to honor Jesus (by making Him God), ends up drawing a picture of God that's little more than a mockery; a sad caricature of God. Nobody wants to serve a God like that one, but rather One in whom we can rest upon; One who is not playing hide and seek, nor difficult to find. Peace
RabinoBoricuaVirtual 2 years ago
I am NOT making Him God. He existed with the Father, He is uncreated, Eternal and the Creator of all things. Even you my friend. Yes, Jesus created you and you deny Him the glory ONLY do to Him....
MBI3030 2 years ago
Now, don't believe what I just say regarding the LOGOS. I'm Jewish, and may not be impartial. Check it out by yourself! Try the following CHRISTIAN book: "A Brief Guide To Philo", by Kenneth Schenck (Pages 51-56), ISBN number 0-664-22735-X. There, you will confirm all I've said (and more) from a Christian Professor teaching at a Wesleyan University. I wish you good look in your discovery journey...Shalom
Note: Apologies for my English, not very good with it as it isn't my native language..
RabinoBoricuaVirtual 2 years ago
Shalom,
Regarding Jesus incarnation, the original Greek doesn't say "THE WORD" but, "THE LOGOS". This was a Greek concept. The Greeks believed that, before creating the universe, God made a thing called THE LOGOS. Simply put, it was the world of ideas, the realm of all perfect paradigms later used to create the tangible reality. John says Jesus is the LOGOS, a perfect paradigm; but, although different from the rest of creation, THE LOGOS was still just a creation of God, not God himself.
RabinoBoricuaVirtual 2 years ago
John used the greek term for a reason.
John does not say the Logos is part of creation but in fact the CREATOR, the Messiah and Savior.
You reject him becuase it has been prophized you will for a time, but God will open your eyes show enough.
maybe you need to read the New Testament.
MBI3030 2 years ago
There's a logical dead-end in believing Jesus is, literally, God: You see, If Jesus is God, and He couldn't convince the Jews, then God isn't almighty; if He is God, and the Jews killed Him, then God isn't immortal. What being (other than Satan) can be so evil as to defeat and kill God? Thus, the net result of God (Jesus) walking the earth was to make Gods chosen people (the Jews) a curse. So, God curses himself, as stated in: "I will curse him who curseth thee" Gen 12:3. Is God's logic crazy?
RabinoBoricuaVirtual 2 years ago
the problem is your presupposition. You are ASSUMING UNITARIANISM.
Jesus' ealy followerrs were ALL JEWISH.
Jeseus death on the cross was forseen. Jesus flesh died. Death does not mean cease to exist. READ the crucifixiton account.
Jesus walking upon the Earth was part of God's redemaptive plan.
Be honest?
MBI3030 2 years ago
Have you ever read the New Testament?
MBI3030 2 years ago
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1. The New Testament does not have a formal doctrine of the Trinity and nowhere discusses the Trinity as such.
2. Concept of trinity was there, but Joshua speaks about Christian doctrine of Trinity (the unity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three persons in one Godhead), which was developed since the beginning of the third century
3. There was a concept of Trinity even before Jesus, but What we are talking about is the Christian doctrine of trinity that was developed after 325 Ad.
amirali1982 2 years ago
please tell me what you understand that happened at that Council?
MBI3030 2 years ago
This guy is speaking in a confused way... Well Joshua's point was the same...the early followers of Jesus were right, but then the historians and paul changed the words of bible from time to time...they sometime did it intentionally and sometime unintentionally as it was copied by hand.
You seem to not have gone through the complete 48 minutes show. You also don't understand correctly what Joshua said. Don't be frustrated and understand Joshua with your calm mind.
amirali1982 2 years ago
do you even understnd what you just said? "Paul changed the Bible"? WOW
HOW? Can you quote Mohammad saying Paul changed the Bible?
MBI3030 2 years ago
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stfu fagggit
goo debate a muslim brother on youtube that knows the relgion
im onli muslim my name not actions you coward!
but I KNOW that your relgion is false you slut
i dont know enuff to debate you..but i know enuff to know YOUR A COWARD you fukkin hoe
and if i see u face to face ill make u eat my shit
kaashmirrrrrr 2 years ago
well you sound so intellegent. And since you want to play internet gangster,
Lets debate and we will see who the coward is? Do not isult someone you do not know....
MBI3030 2 years ago
Kashmirr brother, I am sorry but you are not reflecting Islam with your abusive attitude. Islam teaches us to respect everyone's believe and only present the truth.
I think you should apologize this guy and lets debate him with the facts and truth.
amirali1982 2 years ago
you have no wrtings ALL your writing been changed and keep gettin changed
FOLLOW ISLAM
kaashmirrrrrr 2 years ago
then maybe we should BURN them all right?
MBI3030 2 years ago
u know ISLAM is the TRUTH
you pplz change your bible to benifit you
your follow a false relgion
you haterzzz
ISLAM GROWING AND WE AINT STOPPINNN
HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH
HATERZ KEEP HATING
WE GROWING YOU COWARDS
kaashmirrrrrr 2 years ago
is that the only thing muslims do? Learn how to debate....
MBI3030 2 years ago
Antonio destroys all muslim lies
forzaitalia2 2 years ago 6
I am no one special... By the GRACE of the Risen Lord, I have any good in me. For HIS glory, any good can come from me... He destroys flasehoods becuase HE is TRUTH....
MBI3030 2 years ago
I am convinced that muslims have a mental block that disallows them to be able to think as a rational human being.
2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
KinsmenRedeemed 2 years ago 4
there is a spiritual darkness prohibiting a Muslim from escaping their worldveiw to see the truth. It is only by the Spirit of God that opens their hearts.
MBI3030 2 years ago