The lies of Nancy Grace included, but not limited to that KC drove with a decomposing body in it...but the truth is, the stain in the trunk were proven to have been there when the car was bought., and tests showed negative for ANY decomposition.......that all tests done in the trunk came out negative for any sign that the trunk ever held a body....all tests neg. for decomp, neg. for chloroform other than is normal. This debunks any "odor of death". Caylee's DNA must be destroyed.
In fact, Lee has been the ONLY one who has been publically cleared! Odd.....(I think Jesse was cleared previously.) What is a strange circumstance, is both Lee and "creepy" at the court's orders were tested on the same time, the same day, BUT ONLY LEE'S RESULTS WERE MADE PUBLIC BY THE JUDGE ...... complete silence on George
s results.
The only rationale that comes up that might explain this, is this could come up at the sentencing part and is being saved.
I have to say that i have learned from watching your videos and i believe you are right on this incest subject! The only point that i have to point something out would be the thinking in regard to the person who has suffered at the hands of these monsters.I dont' think that casey thought to herself "oh no! I can not have everyone know that i am sleeping with an ol man"! I think that casey would have been in denial, and possibly has split on this issue,(personality) which is how she is holding up
@APRIL62318 Oh my goodness.....April, this is not about how much Caylee loved her 'creepy' ole' Georgie Marie! Caylee was an INNOCENT child and I don't think ANYONE is saying terrible things about her! She was a beautiful, sweet, precious angel. Georgie Marie is the pathetic loser!
If you are so positive that Georgie Marie IS NOT Caylee's biological father, then SHOW US THE DNA RESULTS
Also, if Georgie Marie isn't the bio-dad, WHY HAS HE NOT COME FORWARD TO PROVE IT?
@KatesMiMi all that is just tabloid crap is all I am saying There is no proof I am sure they checked George just like they did Lee just so all the rumors will cease. This is all I am saying this doesn't help Caylee even if Caylee is George's she was conceived after Casey was 18 so I'm not sure what can be done its consensual I do not believe this to be true though nor do I believe that he ever touched her. George has no spine he is stuck to Cindy because he feels like less of a man
The Judge saying "Let's settle this once and for all." ordered both Lee and George to cooperate with paternity tests, and they both reuctantly did.
A few months later, the report pointedly inciuded that Lee was not the father. Lee was greatly relieved & cried. the same report DID NOT GIVE GA'S RESULTS. Why? Why was LA'S WERE given, but not GA. F/D is most common form of incest..
The judge ordered the release of the negative finding of LA, and he was dramatically relieved.
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Prove to me Caylee is the child of incest show me the report saying she is the child of an incest relationship? Stop being a moron and just because someone waits till 22 to experiment with drugs, and stop making wild speculations without proof
@Mwells5237 ALL it would take is for Georgie Marie to step up and show us HIS DNA report and all of this would stop.! But he is a spineless wimp - he has NEVER, denied the accusation of Casey saying he molested her - ! WHY NOT?
Little Caylee was the ONLY innocent in this entire tragedy!
@fancyfrenchy cindy would never harm caylee if casey qas touched she left caylee in danger too how will the jury like that she is lying wise up do not buy her bull she is no victim
Wow I can't believe Casey said Caylee's father died in a car crash and really an old friend she knew Jesus Ortiz did but Casey said it wasn't him. Then she wanted to brag about Caylee being part Italian?
I had often thought that the gambling debts that George ran up - I don't think that all that money went to the Nigerian scam or whatever he says he lost it on. I think the money went into Casey's pocket. This money helped Casey "live" without having a job. Or the only job that Casey had was to polish dad's knob. I mean, come on - who in their right mind would want to have sex with Cindy. She is such a cow. I fully believe George is Caylee's father.
Don't you think that if something like this were true the ploice would have found out by now. lets not forget the hairs found in casey's car that were caylee's. the F.B,I. would have found out and we would most likely have seen it on Nacey Grace
i thinks that this is wrong. they lost there grandbaby that they loved. if this were true then the cops would have found out by now
Wait, so you think that unless you see it on Nancy Grace then it can't be true? How about the fact that they are withholding this information because to release it now would cause too much of a prejudicial issue surrounding Casey and potential jury pool. In other words, potential jurors would have already made their minds up that Casey is a sick twisted cunt and want to find her guilty just because of this. Not everything about this case has been released.
it could be a possablety i just hate the thought is all. Caylee was a beautful little girl who was killed. it would exsplane why the grandparents have acted so weird takeing down memoriles and such
do u really think the doctors in the lab are idiots and they would not see that?? no i do not believe that George is the father. i bet she doesn`t know who the father was.
Interesting on rough draft 79 re..the fbi only interested period in cindy lee and george for fingerprints ect.that tells you a lot.plus..the fbi never did 1 other paternity testing on any other guy period outside of lee in her entire circle of friends even at the time of the conception they could tell roughly by cell ph records who she was in touch with..they did not need to.once for an obvious reason they ruled lee out it was only george left.
even for example if the fbi thought 1 other guy could have been remotely involved we'd have heard about it..but never 1 time in any capacity has any other fellow even by the anthony's been accused of paternity ect other than jesse simply for the murder only as he clearly alone cared for caylee..did you notice richard grund in court also last time fox orlando photos show him there behind Baez?
did you notice that they said too in court last time with the new d.penalty lawyer not 1 time did casey even acknowledge her parents as she normally would have.i can see it all coming now.slowly the tables turningmental defense of some kind due to the obvious strange and unusal treatment of casey by both daddy and mommy anthony.veilanna's channel c. belich said andea lyon hinting about it also.
ok "IF" this is true, (its certainly not farfetched by any means especially with DNA tests as it stands) its really starting to make me hate George and Cindy more & more. "IF" this is true, G&C are hippocrits for treating Casey the way the witness statements & interviews say they have. How in the he** can they sit there & say to Jesse, u got alot goin4u, u dont want2 be with Casey, she's not in a good place, & all the other statements against Casey.
Last night May 29th Issues part 6 was good the panel on the show said one day casey will have to throw cindy under the bus ect. to save herself .that is the understatement of this so far.wow.
Phil Spector got sentenced to 19 years in California, where they love their celebrity criminals. Hmmmm, think we will have justice for Caylee afterall.
I find it hilarious that Cindy wants to sue Albie for her comments, esp. regarding incest. However, she still isn't looking for Zanny. Your a joke Cindy and stay off the friggin television shows.
how do you know cindy wants to sue alby? has she never heard of freedom of speech. she can not claim slander, because Alby truely believes what she is saying...she is not saying it to be malicious.
cindy can never sue albie albie is just believing as we are everything casey said as lee has said he also does casey made these claims and cindy would need to prove it false. we know that won't happen. we just believe the correct stuff just not the nanny stuff where as cindy ignores the george business and believes the nanny stuff and her daughters claims of employment.
I just read Jim Hoover's interview, which had at least 3 pages on LE asking him "Who do you is the father of Caylee?" "Have you heard anyone talking about....."
@4nicks4 casey is a liar its gonna be her defense for the murder come on people why would you leave your daughter with men who raped you if you love her she either lied or is admitting she did not care about caylee's wellfare
Baez still seems to want to go with some other person did it however the d.penalty lawyer will want to use a type of mental defense as she knows this will come out.
2. If a victim of abuse or incest etc murders,,,are the rules the same...for all of us??? Is KC toying with leniancy?? Is there any? Is Baez trying to change the laws regarding murder!? I ask mxself if I know the lawa regarding murder and if I did understand them, do I agree=
My focus is on prevention and anything that has to do with grieving but this legal stuff is 'to much',,,and it shouldn't be, Alas,,,I feeel that I failed Caylee.
Thanks 4 and Bunny! IF Baez can prove that KC was abused she will get a more lenient penalty. So we would be left we the questions...is KC totally traumatized or clinically insane?
They have never pleaded insanity so perhaps she is traumatized? I have seen the home and garden video with Cindy, There were way too many toys and decorations and entertainments that bewilder me. On the otherhand, I have been f-ed over royally tons ... so where do we draw the line?????
Also those girls who come from homes with very demanding controling parents, they'll go out and run around since they were boggled up for so long and also the lying is part of a mental illness like bi-polar etc
yes your right, I have also seen girls like that. it can go either way, but I think casy had both senerios happen to her..that is why she is doubly nuts
no it would have not ruled george out if you read about how it is done they Lee and george have seperate mothers,mitochondrial dna . That is what they were only looking for mitochondrial dna to see which one they knew it was incest.
cindy would never admit to anything that would make her "perfect family" look bad..She would let her own child die to keep all the secrets..Have you ever wondered why she has not family contact..and also where is george's family in all this? i have heard a word out of them. if this were me. I would have family coming out of the woodwork to help me.
remember that jail visit how she said she could hardly swallow she was so frustrated with all this no one is letting me talk she said I have to keep my mouth shut ect. it all makes sense.
yeah when she gets mad she can't breath, kinda like what they said happened when she found out about the bones being found...she was really mad, because she didn't outsmart anyone
in my mind the death penalty is to get casey to crack and admitt to all these years of torture to all the abuse in the home and all of the crazy to go after the big fish behind it all and stop protecting the gruesome2some and in time she will I predict.giving full co-operation to LE ect in exchange for less time.
I just remeber Amy even said cindy told her not 1 thing or piece of clothing ever left home that entire 30 days so she knew cindy something was wrong terribly she not 1 time called the police or involved them that shows no genuine concern for the childs welfare period as she had no genuine concern for casey's welfare either growing up.On larry king she had the nerve to say casey lied about work to spend more time with caylee.
cindy enjoyed this torture of casey.calling her a loser to jesse how could he marry a loser and always referring to caylee as the best Mistake she had ever made not george she had ever made.nice mom. now you see why she is covering her tracks cindy this public love fest for casey she is worried skinny casey will tell all and implicate the gruesome2some her parents in this all.
I recall in the docs the computer showed searches for also lots of escort services as well. George perhaps daddy of the century..I think it is possible cindy pushed casey as far as she could mad almost hoping she would do something like she did in the end to end this madness get rid of this shame get rid of the finance problem get rid of casey out of her life to be where she is now in jail just as they are playing victims and all washing her hands clean of it all.
now the Nigerian scheme fits he bribed her with cash for a long time and why also cindy insisted she keep the baby in an adoption what if it were discovered due to medical reasons the baby was a product of incest.not a chance criminal charges if found out so then not only keep the baby cindy took right over mothering her always calling them both her daughters and favoring one daughter caylee over casey blamingcasey for this not george.
Albie, listening to your video, it does explain alot of Casey's actions, if, George had sex with her and Caylee was his. It may be a much more complex situation than we realise.
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I am no fan of George and Cindy Anthony, but just have to respond to this video. We are all entitled to our opinions, and my opinion of your analysis of incest, using the beads, etc. is ridiculous. Honestly, it sounds to me as if you are projecting your very own disturbed experiences, in a very graphic way, into the case of little Caylee, and I for one, do not GET your point through part one or two of your video.
Unless you are a genetic scientist, understanding the complexities of chromosomes and the way they fall in sequencce with eachother and what it looks like can be quite confusing to your avareage Joe. I appreciate Alba trying to show in a laymans way how it works. Perhaps you should wait until it is explained at court, then you might show some appreciation for what she is trying to demonstrate.
There is alot of reasons to think george is the father...that is why casey acted the way she did. i.e. the many many sex partners, the jumping from man to man...the detachment from caylee, the anger towards her mom, the hate of her father, the fact they let her by with anything. it all adds up, it doesn't take a genius to figure this out.
the video is easy to understand. the point is that GA may be the father of Caylee and that would explain all of the behavior of this weird family. The secrecy of paternity, the allowing Casey to do not do anything with her life and to lie and steal consistently, and the fact that the FBI did perform a DNA test on Lee & GA and Lee was cleared but GA was NOT...children of incest often are discarded...this could provide a MOTIVE.
As much as I think this family is effed up and the fact I'm still curious about this incest story, I have to agree with brown2177 about how much Caylee looks like Cindy and how KC looks just like George. I mean is it possible that Caylee could come out with a lot of Cindy's feature's even if she was Cindy and George's daughter? I mean I guess it is possible...
I just had a thought, if George was the father and Cindy knew, then maybe that is why she denied the pregnancy at 7 months along to her brother at his wedding.
of course that is why they both denied the pregnancyas they both denied the murder same reason behind it. It is entirely all about covering up the incest and keeping caged bird casey from singing and implicating them both.that is all it has ever been about or will be.
I'm with you on that too. Too bad little Caylee had to pay the ultimate price. But she does not have to worry about ever being forgotten. I mourn her everyday and am thankful that she is with God and Jesus and she is safe from the wicked family she was born into. God help all of the Anthony's!
Seems very odd that Cindy would be so supportive of Casey's criminal behavior and yet not believe that she was molested/raped by her father. I have no idea if it happened or not, but it would not suprise me in the least. I think the A's would be capable of just about anything. Disfunction at its finest!
Can the FBI keep this under wraps... who is releasing the information that has already been released? Is this something the state AND the defense can and would hold close to their chest till the day of trial?
If you mea paternity yes, except zhe defense 'went' with the 'Nanny did it ' so they have to explain why KC's lies might be because of 'other' abuses, Baez is gungho about a whole story and KC has suggested this but, it won't get her off violating a corpse (Bobby Cox) UNLESS the defense can present something the jury believes about someone else committing this crime...for whatever reason whatsoever! And KC said 'they'!!!!
They waived 'insanity' because they would not 'plea deal'...
the FBI does as they please period. The prosecution knows but diff. rules for turnover of discovery once the fbi involved.listen to youare my sunshine part 2 on nifter about 6 to 8 minutes in.
I have seen this by people with kids, in households that are so dysfunctional you thought you just entered the real twilight zone. There are people who have children and then proceed to not love them, to ruin them, to treat them badly and neglectfully. It's all around us. The Anthonys are those types of people. Their kids are ruined. Their grandbaby paid the price. Too sad for words.
Anything is possible, of course. I would not discount it but I think the baby looked a lot like Cindy. Casey looks like George.
There are many families who encourage and reward their children's bad behavior. The worse the kids get, the better the parents feel...because they are "needed" and relied upon by their enabled adult kids. The parents also are selfish and they do not want good things for their kids. Why? Because they are hateful and cannot love.
are you on crack? this baby looks just like george ..get your head out of the sky and look at all the fact...Casey is a child of incest and that is how they will keep her from the death penalty..that new attorney has never lost a death penalty case and she isn't going to ruin her rep for casey, she knows she has something to save her from the needle.
well time will tell and unless casey pressess charges, right now the prosecution is only interested in getting casey convicted. you will see in time and then you can enjoy eatting your words. and about cindy, its not like she would believe casey over george. casey isn't known for telling the truth., besides, mothers ignore incest all the time, or it would never happen
Then why did they clear Lee as the father and not George? Also they stopped looking for who the father was, they know who he is, it just has not been released yet.
Maybe you are right about them knowing....However I highly doubt GA is...Like I said it is a crime and would've arrested him by now and it'll point to a different motive. We'll see.
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Well, we all know that each member of this family is extremely ego-bloated, self-aggrandizing, lieing, etc. It is my belief that Casey got pregnant from a boy or man outside the family. Casey was loose with boys. She was trying to find love and validation from others because her family provided nothing good for her. I do not believe that George and Casey had a sexual relationship of any kind. They had a sick one, true. The incest does not fit for me.
and why do you think that is? girls don't just become loose with boys for no reason..especially if they have a good father-daughter relationship..incest is all over this girl..
I agree, I had a large group of girlfriends growing up and two of them were sexually abused in the home. Unfortunately, those were the ones who were the most promiscuos(sic) in later years. I wish a psycologist would be able to explain why this happens...
exactly...thank you so much I too have seen this first hand with friends of mine...it is just hard for people that have never seen it, to believe it. I was like that growing up..it took me finding out after years that 2 of my best friends were molested..I just couldn't believe it..but that explains the nutty casey, not the murderer casey
I think she maybe murdered her as that father's day eve. cindy was trying to strangle her threatened to keep caylee toss her out and she had enough finally justification if her own mom could do that to her well..she would never look at caylee without the reminder or leave her with those two for george to do the same to her or explain one day to caylee who her father was all of it finally came to a head.
The way Cindy was defending Casey in that "best detectives in the USA" video or whatever, made me see 100% how she so badly has this underlying fear that if Casey is convicted she will spill the beans about the family to the world. I'm sure that when Cindy was choking Casey there was a lot more fueling Cindy's emotions than just credit card theft. Casey had stolen previously before so I don't get why that time was any different. It's called DISCIPLINE. Oh, yea, they're scared of blackmail.
Do you think that's why Cindy & George said "You're throwing Casey under the bus!" to eachother? Because they both know that they're even wronger than Casey?
I agree. The first time I felt that gut feeling that George was possibly the father was when I was listening to one of the interrogation tapes and he said, (speaking about Caylee), "with this one I wanted to do it right....." He was talking about spending more time and being involved with the child. Who would say that about their GRAND-child? I thought it was just me. Anyway, I think that George put on the suicide act because he knows this will come out. To be seen. Thanks Alba.
This case is such a frank reflection of what our society has become. A society that says to us, consume and consume some more, keep up with the Jonse's at all costs, lie to everyone around you to make yourself look sucsessful, and whatever you use, can be thrown away.....
Maybe KC said she was a spiteful bitch because she was going to blow the whistle on her dad being Caylee's dad. Maybe Cindy couldn't let that out in the open. Force KC into covering a crime that she might have committed to cover the incest, and so KC, if she helped, would be just as involved. Maybe that is why Cindy treats her like she is walking on egg shells and handles her so carefully as to not have her open her mouth about the truth. I want to be wrong, but Cindy acts and sounds Guilty!
IF what Albi speculates is true...Cindy is not only dealing with the incest problem but´also that KC appears to have gone mad and someone is dead because of it all!
I agree with Albi, KC is not as 'worldly' as we might think and the media does a send up on. There have been faulty presentations by the media, ie, the blue dress fotos were 'promo' shots, They were! Yes, promo shots on that date were odd but they were promo shots.
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Is it possible that Cindy wanted to have another child with George and couldn't, so she had had KC artificially inseminated by George's sperm? Thus...Caylee. Maybe KC was the surrogate mother. Maybe Cindy couldn't take it after all. I'm stuck on Cindy doing the deed because of the incest theory. And Casey covering. Cindy could have told her it was anyone's sperm. She's a a liar too, not as good as KC but she tries all the time.
I'm so glad for your video. I've been saying that Lee or George was the father and would explain the abnormal behavior of all of the A's. Shame is a huge part of the family dynamics here.
Her parents seemed to be hiding something and not wanting to press Casey to become a happy, successful, mature young woman. Something is not normal with this family. Incest / murder ...wonder what the statistics are of murdered children of incest?
I agree that GA's strange behavior alone and the fact that Caylee resembled him so much is suspect. The FBI report was very oddly worded, GA wasn't ruled out but Lee was. This would explain Casey's hyper-sexual behavior and the fact that she lived an imaginary life and was not living a normal life.
There is not always defects in children of incest. It is only if it is over and over again...George is the fathe and that is why casey was so sexually active. Most girls of incest are always with man after man after man....
the defense team and prosecution have their own strategies they do not reveal their game plans day 1 for you to know all.This trial is 2 years away everyone.you will see in time this nanny goat business disappear all together not day 1 slowly.the fbi rules obviously are quite different for discovery turnover,she involved them once she claimed a kidnapping.
The defense knows but it will just show motive.Linda Baden is an expert with dna ect she knows that is why they tested Lee even if casey never told. they are no idiots.lots of stuff to come in days ahead count on it.trial they said tonight on issues may be 2 years yet away.
@miczon61
The lies of Nancy Grace included, but not limited to that KC drove with a decomposing body in it...but the truth is, the stain in the trunk were proven to have been there when the car was bought., and tests showed negative for ANY decomposition.......that all tests done in the trunk came out negative for any sign that the trunk ever held a body....all tests neg. for decomp, neg. for chloroform other than is normal. This debunks any "odor of death". Caylee's DNA must be destroyed.
albatross234 7 months ago
@Fruitloop186 Seen any child molestation lately? Me. neither. Must not happen.
albatross234 7 months ago
@albatross234 Incest, rape, and molestation usually is done by close family friends and relatives.
jfabulous425 8 months ago
@APRIL62318
In fact, Lee has been the ONLY one who has been publically cleared! Odd.....(I think Jesse was cleared previously.) What is a strange circumstance, is both Lee and "creepy" at the court's orders were tested on the same time, the same day, BUT ONLY LEE'S RESULTS WERE MADE PUBLIC BY THE JUDGE ...... complete silence on George
s results.
The only rationale that comes up that might explain this, is this could come up at the sentencing part and is being saved.
albatross234 1 year ago
@albatross234 Caylee does not look like george i don't buy this and anyway Casey is no victim
APRIL62318 1 year ago
I have to say that i have learned from watching your videos and i believe you are right on this incest subject! The only point that i have to point something out would be the thinking in regard to the person who has suffered at the hands of these monsters.I dont' think that casey thought to herself "oh no! I can not have everyone know that i am sleeping with an ol man"! I think that casey would have been in denial, and possibly has split on this issue,(personality) which is how she is holding up
Celizamite 1 year ago 2
Ok.... so if the dad is not the father , then what about Lee (the brother)?
sharonlynnmc1 1 year ago
@ohmymy12399 Hoover lies too
APRIL62318 1 year ago
this is untrue please take it down she loved her jojo no matter what your opinion of him is and cindy too
APRIL62318 1 year ago
@APRIL62318 Oh my goodness.....April, this is not about how much Caylee loved her 'creepy' ole' Georgie Marie! Caylee was an INNOCENT child and I don't think ANYONE is saying terrible things about her! She was a beautiful, sweet, precious angel. Georgie Marie is the pathetic loser!
If you are so positive that Georgie Marie IS NOT Caylee's biological father, then SHOW US THE DNA RESULTS
Also, if Georgie Marie isn't the bio-dad, WHY HAS HE NOT COME FORWARD TO PROVE IT?
KatesMiMi 1 year ago
@KatesMiMi all that is just tabloid crap is all I am saying There is no proof I am sure they checked George just like they did Lee just so all the rumors will cease. This is all I am saying this doesn't help Caylee even if Caylee is George's she was conceived after Casey was 18 so I'm not sure what can be done its consensual I do not believe this to be true though nor do I believe that he ever touched her. George has no spine he is stuck to Cindy because he feels like less of a man
APRIL62318 1 year ago
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KatesMiMi 1 year ago
The Judge saying "Let's settle this once and for all." ordered both Lee and George to cooperate with paternity tests, and they both reuctantly did.
A few months later, the report pointedly inciuded that Lee was not the father. Lee was greatly relieved & cried. the same report DID NOT GIVE GA'S RESULTS. Why? Why was LA'S WERE given, but not GA. F/D is most common form of incest..
The judge ordered the release of the negative finding of LA, and he was dramatically relieved.
albatross234 2 years ago
@albatross234 George might be the father we still don't know yet. I wouldn't be surprised.
MrGrevy 1 year ago
Lady I hope that you realize that you can be sued for libel for this video.
susankmcc11009 2 years ago
u know lot for thes peeple
mynameisHelenMason 2 years ago
ar u doctur?
mynameisHelenMason 2 years ago
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Prove to me Caylee is the child of incest show me the report saying she is the child of an incest relationship? Stop being a moron and just because someone waits till 22 to experiment with drugs, and stop making wild speculations without proof
Mwells5237 2 years ago
And the report saying she isn't?
albatross234 2 years ago
@Mwells5237 She may be you idiot - they haven't released george's results yet. Quit supporting these freaks.
MrGrevy 1 year ago
@Mwells5237 ALL it would take is for Georgie Marie to step up and show us HIS DNA report and all of this would stop.! But he is a spineless wimp - he has NEVER, denied the accusation of Casey saying he molested her - ! WHY NOT?
Little Caylee was the ONLY innocent in this entire tragedy!
KatesMiMi 1 year ago
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fancyfrenchy 2 years ago
@fancyfrenchy cindy would never harm caylee if casey qas touched she left caylee in danger too how will the jury like that she is lying wise up do not buy her bull she is no victim
APRIL62318 1 year ago
Wow I can't believe Casey said Caylee's father died in a car crash and really an old friend she knew Jesus Ortiz did but Casey said it wasn't him. Then she wanted to brag about Caylee being part Italian?
RandiSierra 2 years ago
if lee is not george cant be
APRIL62318 2 years ago
I had often thought that the gambling debts that George ran up - I don't think that all that money went to the Nigerian scam or whatever he says he lost it on. I think the money went into Casey's pocket. This money helped Casey "live" without having a job. Or the only job that Casey had was to polish dad's knob. I mean, come on - who in their right mind would want to have sex with Cindy. She is such a cow. I fully believe George is Caylee's father.
kjvpresents 2 years ago 5
@kjvpresents marriage is not all about sex not at their age my god he is 60 he is old
APRIL62318 1 year ago
Don't you think that if something like this were true the ploice would have found out by now. lets not forget the hairs found in casey's car that were caylee's. the F.B,I. would have found out and we would most likely have seen it on Nacey Grace
i thinks that this is wrong. they lost there grandbaby that they loved. if this were true then the cops would have found out by now
katierose333 2 years ago
Wait, so you think that unless you see it on Nancy Grace then it can't be true? How about the fact that they are withholding this information because to release it now would cause too much of a prejudicial issue surrounding Casey and potential jury pool. In other words, potential jurors would have already made their minds up that Casey is a sick twisted cunt and want to find her guilty just because of this. Not everything about this case has been released.
kjvpresents 2 years ago 3
it could be a possablety i just hate the thought is all. Caylee was a beautful little girl who was killed. it would exsplane why the grandp
katierose333 2 years ago
it could be a possablety i just hate the thought is all. Caylee was a beautful little girl who was killed. it would exsplane why the grandparents have acted so weird takeing down memoriles and such
i just hate to think of little Caylee that way
katierose333 2 years ago
@katierose333 then first its a lie 2nd it would not be her fault
APRIL62318 1 year ago
Very Nice! My nursing school instructor could have learned a thing or two (hundred) from you! I have a theory. . . and you are proving it!!
hotpep62642 2 years ago 3
do u really think the doctors in the lab are idiots and they would not see that?? no i do not believe that George is the father. i bet she doesn`t know who the father was.
Winterfairy777 2 years ago
albatross234 is the best. Thank You Ablatross.
graceesmom 2 years ago 7
See questioning re: paternity during Anthony PI James Hoover interview w'/LE, starting on page 77--link on right.
albatross234 2 years ago
Interesting on rough draft 79 re..the fbi only interested period in cindy lee and george for fingerprints ect.that tells you a lot.plus..the fbi never did 1 other paternity testing on any other guy period outside of lee in her entire circle of friends even at the time of the conception they could tell roughly by cell ph records who she was in touch with..they did not need to.once for an obvious reason they ruled lee out it was only george left.
WHATCANYOUC 2 years ago 5
See questioning re: paternity during Anthony PI James Hoover interview w'/LE, starting on page 77--link on right.
albatross234 2 years ago
even for example if the fbi thought 1 other guy could have been remotely involved we'd have heard about it..but never 1 time in any capacity has any other fellow even by the anthony's been accused of paternity ect other than jesse simply for the murder only as he clearly alone cared for caylee..did you notice richard grund in court also last time fox orlando photos show him there behind Baez?
WHATCANYOUC 2 years ago
did you notice that they said too in court last time with the new d.penalty lawyer not 1 time did casey even acknowledge her parents as she normally would have.i can see it all coming now.slowly the tables turningmental defense of some kind due to the obvious strange and unusal treatment of casey by both daddy and mommy anthony.veilanna's channel c. belich said andea lyon hinting about it also.
WHATCANYOUC 2 years ago 6
ok "IF" this is true, (its certainly not farfetched by any means especially with DNA tests as it stands) its really starting to make me hate George and Cindy more & more. "IF" this is true, G&C are hippocrits for treating Casey the way the witness statements & interviews say they have. How in the he** can they sit there & say to Jesse, u got alot goin4u, u dont want2 be with Casey, she's not in a good place, & all the other statements against Casey.
sunsetfire30606 2 years ago 4
Casey said " maybe I should have done this a long time ago"
gingerlicious13 2 years ago 7
Last night May 29th Issues part 6 was good the panel on the show said one day casey will have to throw cindy under the bus ect. to save herself .that is the understatement of this so far.wow.
4nicks4 2 years ago 5
Phil Spector got sentenced to 19 years in California, where they love their celebrity criminals. Hmmmm, think we will have justice for Caylee afterall.
violetsky0036 2 years ago 5
I find it hilarious that Cindy wants to sue Albie for her comments, esp. regarding incest. However, she still isn't looking for Zanny. Your a joke Cindy and stay off the friggin television shows.
violetsky0036 2 years ago 6
how do you know cindy wants to sue alby? has she never heard of freedom of speech. she can not claim slander, because Alby truely believes what she is saying...she is not saying it to be malicious.
marcymarie55 2 years ago 7
cindy can never sue albie albie is just believing as we are everything casey said as lee has said he also does casey made these claims and cindy would need to prove it false. we know that won't happen. we just believe the correct stuff just not the nanny stuff where as cindy ignores the george business and believes the nanny stuff and her daughters claims of employment.
4nicks4 2 years ago 8
I just read Jim Hoover's interview, which had at least 3 pages on LE asking him "Who do you is the father of Caylee?" "Have you heard anyone talking about....."
albatross234 2 years ago
@4nicks4 casey is a liar its gonna be her defense for the murder come on people why would you leave your daughter with men who raped you if you love her she either lied or is admitting she did not care about caylee's wellfare
APRIL62318 1 year ago
Baez still seems to want to go with some other person did it however the d.penalty lawyer will want to use a type of mental defense as she knows this will come out.
4nicks4 2 years ago 5
2. If a victim of abuse or incest etc murders,,,are the rules the same...for all of us??? Is KC toying with leniancy?? Is there any? Is Baez trying to change the laws regarding murder!? I ask mxself if I know the lawa regarding murder and if I did understand them, do I agree=
My focus is on prevention and anything that has to do with grieving but this legal stuff is 'to much',,,and it shouldn't be, Alas,,,I feeel that I failed Caylee.
Trubisha 2 years ago
Thanks 4 and Bunny! IF Baez can prove that KC was abused she will get a more lenient penalty. So we would be left we the questions...is KC totally traumatized or clinically insane?
They have never pleaded insanity so perhaps she is traumatized? I have seen the home and garden video with Cindy, There were way too many toys and decorations and entertainments that bewilder me. On the otherhand, I have been f-ed over royally tons ... so where do we draw the line?????
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Trubisha 2 years ago
Also those girls who come from homes with very demanding controling parents, they'll go out and run around since they were boggled up for so long and also the lying is part of a mental illness like bi-polar etc
Bunnyblogger 2 years ago
yes your right, I have also seen girls like that. it can go either way, but I think casy had both senerios happen to her..that is why she is doubly nuts
marcymarie55 2 years ago
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Bunnyblogger 2 years ago
umm think again...that would have ruled george out from the dna test...either one of your ideals make any kind of sense
marcymarie55 2 years ago
no it would have not ruled george out if you read about how it is done they Lee and george have seperate mothers,mitochondrial dna . That is what they were only looking for mitochondrial dna to see which one they knew it was incest.
4nicks4 2 years ago 4
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Bunnyblogger 2 years ago
cindy would never admit to anything that would make her "perfect family" look bad..She would let her own child die to keep all the secrets..Have you ever wondered why she has not family contact..and also where is george's family in all this? i have heard a word out of them. if this were me. I would have family coming out of the woodwork to help me.
marcymarie55 2 years ago 7
remember that jail visit how she said she could hardly swallow she was so frustrated with all this no one is letting me talk she said I have to keep my mouth shut ect. it all makes sense.
4nicks4 2 years ago 4
yeah when she gets mad she can't breath, kinda like what they said happened when she found out about the bones being found...she was really mad, because she didn't outsmart anyone
marcymarie55 2 years ago 7
in my mind the death penalty is to get casey to crack and admitt to all these years of torture to all the abuse in the home and all of the crazy to go after the big fish behind it all and stop protecting the gruesome2some and in time she will I predict.giving full co-operation to LE ect in exchange for less time.
4nicks4 2 years ago 4
I just remeber Amy even said cindy told her not 1 thing or piece of clothing ever left home that entire 30 days so she knew cindy something was wrong terribly she not 1 time called the police or involved them that shows no genuine concern for the childs welfare period as she had no genuine concern for casey's welfare either growing up.On larry king she had the nerve to say casey lied about work to spend more time with caylee.
4nicks4 2 years ago 6
watch the video titled caylee marie anthony case-cops cases and clues 5
4nicks4 2 years ago 2
cindy enjoyed this torture of casey.calling her a loser to jesse how could he marry a loser and always referring to caylee as the best Mistake she had ever made not george she had ever made.nice mom. now you see why she is covering her tracks cindy this public love fest for casey she is worried skinny casey will tell all and implicate the gruesome2some her parents in this all.
4nicks4 2 years ago 12
I recall in the docs the computer showed searches for also lots of escort services as well. George perhaps daddy of the century..I think it is possible cindy pushed casey as far as she could mad almost hoping she would do something like she did in the end to end this madness get rid of this shame get rid of the finance problem get rid of casey out of her life to be where she is now in jail just as they are playing victims and all washing her hands clean of it all.
4nicks4 2 years ago 5
now the Nigerian scheme fits he bribed her with cash for a long time and why also cindy insisted she keep the baby in an adoption what if it were discovered due to medical reasons the baby was a product of incest.not a chance criminal charges if found out so then not only keep the baby cindy took right over mothering her always calling them both her daughters and favoring one daughter caylee over casey blamingcasey for this not george.
4nicks4 2 years ago 6
Albie, listening to your video, it does explain alot of Casey's actions, if, George had sex with her and Caylee was his. It may be a much more complex situation than we realise.
narm67 2 years ago 4
This a good reason why Cindy and George could not sue for custody. Casey would spill the truth.
123dietdrpepper 2 years ago 4
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I am no fan of George and Cindy Anthony, but just have to respond to this video. We are all entitled to our opinions, and my opinion of your analysis of incest, using the beads, etc. is ridiculous. Honestly, it sounds to me as if you are projecting your very own disturbed experiences, in a very graphic way, into the case of little Caylee, and I for one, do not GET your point through part one or two of your video.
lynne52l 2 years ago
Unless you are a genetic scientist, understanding the complexities of chromosomes and the way they fall in sequencce with eachother and what it looks like can be quite confusing to your avareage Joe. I appreciate Alba trying to show in a laymans way how it works. Perhaps you should wait until it is explained at court, then you might show some appreciation for what she is trying to demonstrate.
Thanks Alba!
fenriswolf6699 2 years ago 7
There is alot of reasons to think george is the father...that is why casey acted the way she did. i.e. the many many sex partners, the jumping from man to man...the detachment from caylee, the anger towards her mom, the hate of her father, the fact they let her by with anything. it all adds up, it doesn't take a genius to figure this out.
marcymarie55 2 years ago 6
the video is easy to understand. the point is that GA may be the father of Caylee and that would explain all of the behavior of this weird family. The secrecy of paternity, the allowing Casey to do not do anything with her life and to lie and steal consistently, and the fact that the FBI did perform a DNA test on Lee & GA and Lee was cleared but GA was NOT...children of incest often are discarded...this could provide a MOTIVE.
depravedworld 2 years ago 3
As much as I think this family is effed up and the fact I'm still curious about this incest story, I have to agree with brown2177 about how much Caylee looks like Cindy and how KC looks just like George. I mean is it possible that Caylee could come out with a lot of Cindy's feature's even if she was Cindy and George's daughter? I mean I guess it is possible...
Sick, sick, sick.
luckyguerin13 2 years ago
I MEAN even if she's KC's and George's daughter. Not Cindy.
luckyguerin13 2 years ago
Hi Albi, Masterpiece! I think the word you were looking for is 'proportions'.
I'm not big on the facial features part. My mids are the spitting image of bro. grandma and grandpa...are there any additional attributes to be seen?
I agree that there would be a cry for help and the stuff about an imaginary friend/self. G's online experience would be more than we know,
I feel also that KC was 'kept'.
Blackmail would explain all!
Thankyou much for the beads/genes!!!!!!
Best vid ever!
Trubisha 2 years ago 3
I just had a thought, if George was the father and Cindy knew, then maybe that is why she denied the pregnancy at 7 months along to her brother at his wedding.
violetsky0036 2 years ago 3
of course that is why they both denied the pregnancyas they both denied the murder same reason behind it. It is entirely all about covering up the incest and keeping caged bird casey from singing and implicating them both.that is all it has ever been about or will be.
4nicks4 2 years ago 4
I totally agree and thought of that a while ago.
vylonxic 2 years ago 10
I'm with you on that too. Too bad little Caylee had to pay the ultimate price. But she does not have to worry about ever being forgotten. I mourn her everyday and am thankful that she is with God and Jesus and she is safe from the wicked family she was born into. God help all of the Anthony's!
IamTheOnlyWheels 2 years ago 4
Seems very odd that Cindy would be so supportive of Casey's criminal behavior and yet not believe that she was molested/raped by her father. I have no idea if it happened or not, but it would not suprise me in the least. I think the A's would be capable of just about anything. Disfunction at its finest!
violetsky0036 2 years ago 3
Can the FBI keep this under wraps... who is releasing the information that has already been released? Is this something the state AND the defense can and would hold close to their chest till the day of trial?
Obsessa 2 years ago
If you mea paternity yes, except zhe defense 'went' with the 'Nanny did it ' so they have to explain why KC's lies might be because of 'other' abuses, Baez is gungho about a whole story and KC has suggested this but, it won't get her off violating a corpse (Bobby Cox) UNLESS the defense can present something the jury believes about someone else committing this crime...for whatever reason whatsoever! And KC said 'they'!!!!
They waived 'insanity' because they would not 'plea deal'...
Trubisha 2 years ago
the FBI does as they please period. The prosecution knows but diff. rules for turnover of discovery once the fbi involved.listen to youare my sunshine part 2 on nifter about 6 to 8 minutes in.
4nicks4 2 years ago
I have seen this by people with kids, in households that are so dysfunctional you thought you just entered the real twilight zone. There are people who have children and then proceed to not love them, to ruin them, to treat them badly and neglectfully. It's all around us. The Anthonys are those types of people. Their kids are ruined. Their grandbaby paid the price. Too sad for words.
brown2177 2 years ago 2
Anything is possible, of course. I would not discount it but I think the baby looked a lot like Cindy. Casey looks like George.
There are many families who encourage and reward their children's bad behavior. The worse the kids get, the better the parents feel...because they are "needed" and relied upon by their enabled adult kids. The parents also are selfish and they do not want good things for their kids. Why? Because they are hateful and cannot love.
brown2177 2 years ago
are you on crack? this baby looks just like george ..get your head out of the sky and look at all the fact...Casey is a child of incest and that is how they will keep her from the death penalty..that new attorney has never lost a death penalty case and she isn't going to ruin her rep for casey, she knows she has something to save her from the needle.
marcymarie55 2 years ago
Casey? Do you mean Caylee?
phlashba 2 years ago
duh
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Bunnyblogger 2 years ago
well time will tell and unless casey pressess charges, right now the prosecution is only interested in getting casey convicted. you will see in time and then you can enjoy eatting your words. and about cindy, its not like she would believe casey over george. casey isn't known for telling the truth., besides, mothers ignore incest all the time, or it would never happen
marcymarie55 2 years ago
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Bunnyblogger 2 years ago
Then why did they clear Lee as the father and not George? Also they stopped looking for who the father was, they know who he is, it just has not been released yet.
fenriswolf6699 2 years ago 9
Maybe you are right about them knowing....However I highly doubt GA is...Like I said it is a crime and would've arrested him by now and it'll point to a different motive. We'll see.
Bunnyblogger 2 years ago
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Well, we all know that each member of this family is extremely ego-bloated, self-aggrandizing, lieing, etc. It is my belief that Casey got pregnant from a boy or man outside the family. Casey was loose with boys. She was trying to find love and validation from others because her family provided nothing good for her. I do not believe that George and Casey had a sexual relationship of any kind. They had a sick one, true. The incest does not fit for me.
brown2177 2 years ago
and why do you think that is? girls don't just become loose with boys for no reason..especially if they have a good father-daughter relationship..incest is all over this girl..
marcymarie55 2 years ago 3
I agree, I had a large group of girlfriends growing up and two of them were sexually abused in the home. Unfortunately, those were the ones who were the most promiscuos(sic) in later years. I wish a psycologist would be able to explain why this happens...
fenriswolf6699 2 years ago 4
exactly...thank you so much I too have seen this first hand with friends of mine...it is just hard for people that have never seen it, to believe it. I was like that growing up..it took me finding out after years that 2 of my best friends were molested..I just couldn't believe it..but that explains the nutty casey, not the murderer casey
marcymarie55 2 years ago 3
I think she maybe murdered her as that father's day eve. cindy was trying to strangle her threatened to keep caylee toss her out and she had enough finally justification if her own mom could do that to her well..she would never look at caylee without the reminder or leave her with those two for george to do the same to her or explain one day to caylee who her father was all of it finally came to a head.
4nicks4 2 years ago 6
couldn't have said it better
marcymarie55 2 years ago 4
Maybe not, but I am sure you could have written it better.
phlashba 2 years ago
Will we ever know the truth about the real father of CayLee...?? I am with you..I think that George is the father of CayLee..!!!
tiparker119 2 years ago 13
The cindy fans have been in here giving thumbs down to all of the truthful comments, please everyone help out and give them the thumbs up again!
fenriswolf6699 2 years ago 9
The way Cindy was defending Casey in that "best detectives in the USA" video or whatever, made me see 100% how she so badly has this underlying fear that if Casey is convicted she will spill the beans about the family to the world. I'm sure that when Cindy was choking Casey there was a lot more fueling Cindy's emotions than just credit card theft. Casey had stolen previously before so I don't get why that time was any different. It's called DISCIPLINE. Oh, yea, they're scared of blackmail.
raecelestek 2 years ago 13
Do you think that's why Cindy & George said "You're throwing Casey under the bus!" to eachother? Because they both know that they're even wronger than Casey?
raecelestek 2 years ago 10
whoah your nails are beautiful
raecelestek 2 years ago 8
I agree. The first time I felt that gut feeling that George was possibly the father was when I was listening to one of the interrogation tapes and he said, (speaking about Caylee), "with this one I wanted to do it right....." He was talking about spending more time and being involved with the child. Who would say that about their GRAND-child? I thought it was just me. Anyway, I think that George put on the suicide act because he knows this will come out. To be seen. Thanks Alba.
fignewton617 2 years ago 10
This case is such a frank reflection of what our society has become. A society that says to us, consume and consume some more, keep up with the Jonse's at all costs, lie to everyone around you to make yourself look sucsessful, and whatever you use, can be thrown away.....
fenriswolf6699 2 years ago 7
i dont think casey knows who the father is. she was a whore,and would spread her legs for any man.
shootnstar35 2 years ago
that is all true including her own father
marcymarie55 2 years ago 5
Maybe KC said she was a spiteful bitch because she was going to blow the whistle on her dad being Caylee's dad. Maybe Cindy couldn't let that out in the open. Force KC into covering a crime that she might have committed to cover the incest, and so KC, if she helped, would be just as involved. Maybe that is why Cindy treats her like she is walking on egg shells and handles her so carefully as to not have her open her mouth about the truth. I want to be wrong, but Cindy acts and sounds Guilty!
IamTheOnlyWheels 2 years ago
IF what Albi speculates is true...Cindy is not only dealing with the incest problem but´also that KC appears to have gone mad and someone is dead because of it all!
I agree with Albi, KC is not as 'worldly' as we might think and the media does a send up on. There have been faulty presentations by the media, ie, the blue dress fotos were 'promo' shots, They were! Yes, promo shots on that date were odd but they were promo shots.
I agree with Albi, KC was 'kept'!
Trubisha 2 years ago 3
that only explains one photo, what about all the others that were time stamped during the same time period as when caylee was missing...
marcymarie55 2 years ago 2
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Is it possible that Cindy wanted to have another child with George and couldn't, so she had had KC artificially inseminated by George's sperm? Thus...Caylee. Maybe KC was the surrogate mother. Maybe Cindy couldn't take it after all. I'm stuck on Cindy doing the deed because of the incest theory. And Casey covering. Cindy could have told her it was anyone's sperm. She's a a liar too, not as good as KC but she tries all the time.
IamTheOnlyWheels 2 years ago
I'm so glad for your video. I've been saying that Lee or George was the father and would explain the abnormal behavior of all of the A's. Shame is a huge part of the family dynamics here.
depravedworld 2 years ago 8
Her parents seemed to be hiding something and not wanting to press Casey to become a happy, successful, mature young woman. Something is not normal with this family. Incest / murder ...wonder what the statistics are of murdered children of incest?
depravedworld 2 years ago 9
I agree that GA's strange behavior alone and the fact that Caylee resembled him so much is suspect. The FBI report was very oddly worded, GA wasn't ruled out but Lee was. This would explain Casey's hyper-sexual behavior and the fact that she lived an imaginary life and was not living a normal life.
depravedworld 2 years ago 6
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phlashba 2 years ago
There is not always defects in children of incest. It is only if it is over and over again...George is the fathe and that is why casey was so sexually active. Most girls of incest are always with man after man after man....
marcymarie55 2 years ago 7
i agree with Marc...what defense would have a better chance of letting Casey walk free?
1 )Make believe Nanny/Kidnapper employed by Casey who had a make believe job?
or
2) Dad was molesting me?
Casey "Well maybe I'm just a spiteful bitch"
Spite...she did Caylee in to punish Cindy after the big blow up due to the mother of the year stealing money from her aling grandfather
would a narcicst like Casey be sitting in jail facing the death penalty to protect her family? NO WAY
fatimasadrcity 2 years ago 5
the defense team and prosecution have their own strategies they do not reveal their game plans day 1 for you to know all.This trial is 2 years away everyone.you will see in time this nanny goat business disappear all together not day 1 slowly.the fbi rules obviously are quite different for discovery turnover,she involved them once she claimed a kidnapping.
4nicks4 2 years ago 3
The defense knows but it will just show motive.Linda Baden is an expert with dna ect she knows that is why they tested Lee even if casey never told. they are no idiots.lots of stuff to come in days ahead count on it.trial they said tonight on issues may be 2 years yet away.
4nicks4 2 years ago 3
Right on Alby!!!!!!!
BELTED007 2 years ago 11
the allels do not lie . they know right away from the beginning from the mom-child it is incest.
4nicks4 2 years ago 5