I agree. If is wasn't for their spammy reflectors, the StarFox characters would be totally wothless. Wolf is shit any way you look at it, his own moves kill him off.
@ThePoopsack69 Falco is top tier in Brawl, and Fox is in the same tier as Toon Link, who was originally a top tier character in early Brawl tier list.
Falco and Fox are considered the best characters in melee.
Fox is considered the second best character in the first Smash Bros.
Starfox characters aren't shit, you just don't know what you're doing.
@GreatScooty lol I know stat-wise the StarFox characters have always been quite good, but I really am not into tiers and crap. I was simply stating my opinion based on a childhood of my brother spamming the living shit out of the reflector. And when I wasn't used to playing as Wolf I accidentally killed myself with his side special a few times. :/
@GreatScooty Dude tiers dont matter when you suck with them it depends on how you used them, im saying Ti3rsRfQ crap, ANY character is good I saw a jigglypuff user owned a metaknight and the metaknight was actually GOOD, but when it comes to recovery they almost always fail and when I was close to winning a four stock match I lost because fox got stuck under final destination :P
Okay now you're just stating the obvious. I never implied that a high tier character will always beat a low tier. That's stupid. Also FYI, you're wrong on tiers AGAIN. Jigglypuff is one of the best characters in Brawl.
I don't think it takes a genius to realize that not everyone who uses Meta-Knight will win.
So you're blaming the character for you losing? That's mature.
@GreatScooty I never meant to imply that fox sucks I was point out to the situtation of what happened fox is a good character just the recovery was the problem and no I dont blame on the characters my main is usually ness or lucas so at the time I sucked at fox
@GreatScooty I agree, meta knight sucks for me, no one I know uses him and his attacks aren't all that good. And who cares about tiers so much, that is all there is here, it is dumb. (I kick butt with Yoshi, Tier that)
It seems to me that these recovery failures are more the players' fault than the characters'. I wouldn't just say that the Star Fox fighters really suck that much all the time, considering not everybody tries to recover by using hurricane kicks. :/
The people who were playing as the star fox characters were probably thinking to themselves: "Hurr, i kick ayuss at dis gayme cuz everywon don't kno hao to kill demslvs."
@patrickhurley530 I hope you're not referring to ME sucking, because out of all the StarFox characters dying in this video, not a SINGLE ONE is me. You're just dumb.
You'll have fun with Battalion Wars 2 Co-Op n00bs. They will guarantee you get a God awful rank or just plain mission failure because they do not play smart about protecting your AA units and even meatshield with their AA units.
By that time, I realized how terrible 80%+ of the people who use the StarFox characters are, so instead of wishing I had someone else as a partner, I instead brace for failure and try not to die whilst laughing.
This is very true. I mean, I played an okay Falco for a while, but everyone uses Falco. If they don't use Falco, they use Wolf and constantly spam his down-smash. It's like your typical With Anyone Pikachu except instead of electrical air tag it's stupor sweeping.
This is hilarious. Though I must say, when you're playing as wolf, you tend to forget how useless his side-B move is, resulting in many SD's. (I play with a GCN controller., and no, wolf is not my main. I hardly ever play as him anymore.)
Also, one question: when I play online, there is a slight delay to the response time of the controls. Is this my connection, or is that just how Brawl plays? Has anyone else had this issue?
I don't think you can blame that second one on the player though. If the Mushroom hadn't run out, he would have made it... right as getting blasted by Ike.
...That Ike on the Falco Survival Time Trial...I'd so want to fight against him. He does look like he has some skill and it probably looks shameful to go up against such n00bs. Still, for the sake of the video and all, it looked good.
I loved it when Falco and Link were trying to hide out on the ship's guns and Klyde went down there, killed them both, and still managed to get back safely to the ship. Was great. Though, Klyde is better now than he was at the time of this video, naturally.
Oh, and at the time of this writing, the description doesn't mention this (maybe Klyde will add it after seeing this post), but KlydeStorm is always the one with the "P1" above his head in this video.
Ironically, this makes me want to be able to play Brawl online(And just in general; My disc is horribly scratched.) just so I can put these people in their places.
Possible, but again, it's probably your router. The Wii's online needs to have your router pretty much perfectly set up, or else it will run like shit, or not at all.
though sonic may not be the best character but his recovering is good. but anyone playing as ness and lucas using the wii mote sideways also suck. they don't move pk thunder good.
@MasterKnightDH If you play it with a GC controller, you have to lag between button pressing and the game reacting to it. If you use a wireless controller, it lags a little compared to a wired GC controller.
Besides, bring a Wiimote to a Smash Bros tournament, and you WILL be laughed at.
And I suppose it's not true that C-Sticking is just the lazy way out? Sounds like tournaments are just like message boards that tell you to suck less if you mention beating the final boss of an RPG without level 99 characters.
@Firebrand101 OBJECTION! You cannot wield a Gamecube controller like a flail. You cannot signal in semaphore using a Gamecube controller. And you certainly can't use a Gamecube controller as a garroting wire. Therefore, Wiimote + Nunchuk is superior.
Fox is my second most powerful character, because he's fast and easy to control. Wolf's really powerful, but he's very hard to control. Falco... sucks. -_-' All what I can say is that they must surely use the sideway wii remote. Or else they must be beginners. The Wii remote+Nunchuk is my best at all games. Good video anyway! ;)
Great video. It can get frustrating getting teamed up with people like that, but it's really funny sometimes. I enjoyed the video. I love the intro too; it's brilliant.
And it's always weird when someone dies off the top of the screen like at 10:22.
That's what happens when an Alloy dies off the top, or when Toon Link, Link, or Samus fires their tether before they fly off the top. I'm not sure if it works with ZSS.
yea wolf is my go to guy and if you actually get used to finessing his recovery moves he's pretty damn good.
frosty731731 4 months ago
The people suck at this game, OR I am way more awesome
agentpichusruleketrs 5 months ago
I don't know why, but after playing TF2 and sucking so much, this is all the more entertaining. :>
superpika237 5 months ago
what do you feel about Lucas/Ness players?
pigfish99 6 months ago
I agree. If is wasn't for their spammy reflectors, the StarFox characters would be totally wothless. Wolf is shit any way you look at it, his own moves kill him off.
ThePoopsack69 9 months ago
@ThePoopsack69 Falco is top tier in Brawl, and Fox is in the same tier as Toon Link, who was originally a top tier character in early Brawl tier list.
Falco and Fox are considered the best characters in melee.
Fox is considered the second best character in the first Smash Bros.
Starfox characters aren't shit, you just don't know what you're doing.
GreatScooty 8 months ago
@GreatScooty lol I know stat-wise the StarFox characters have always been quite good, but I really am not into tiers and crap. I was simply stating my opinion based on a childhood of my brother spamming the living shit out of the reflector. And when I wasn't used to playing as Wolf I accidentally killed myself with his side special a few times. :/
ThePoopsack69 8 months ago
@GreatScooty Dude tiers dont matter when you suck with them it depends on how you used them, im saying Ti3rsRfQ crap, ANY character is good I saw a jigglypuff user owned a metaknight and the metaknight was actually GOOD, but when it comes to recovery they almost always fail and when I was close to winning a four stock match I lost because fox got stuck under final destination :P
toontown2001 8 months ago
@toontown2001
Okay now you're just stating the obvious. I never implied that a high tier character will always beat a low tier. That's stupid. Also FYI, you're wrong on tiers AGAIN. Jigglypuff is one of the best characters in Brawl.
I don't think it takes a genius to realize that not everyone who uses Meta-Knight will win.
So you're blaming the character for you losing? That's mature.
GreatScooty 8 months ago
@GreatScooty I never meant to imply that fox sucks I was point out to the situtation of what happened fox is a good character just the recovery was the problem and no I dont blame on the characters my main is usually ness or lucas so at the time I sucked at fox
toontown2001 8 months ago
@GreatScooty I agree, meta knight sucks for me, no one I know uses him and his attacks aren't all that good. And who cares about tiers so much, that is all there is here, it is dumb. (I kick butt with Yoshi, Tier that)
agentpichusruleketrs 5 months ago
@GreatScooty I hate falco, he = stupid
agentpichusruleketrs 5 months ago
I like how you used thee Mario Party 2 music at the beginning! XD
JDJeffery 10 months ago
just to let you know please don't group these idiots in with the people who can acually play as the starfox characters
shadowkidd120 11 months ago
This is a prime example on why i hate playing WITH and AS starfox characters.
Killajax 1 year ago
You so should make a sound file of the Brawl announcer saying "Giant Failure!"
MasterKnightDH 1 year ago
Lol, Mario Party 2 music at the beginning. (Look Away)
sailormoon262 1 year ago
i like how you use a variety of characters, as well as the talent you have with each
LeegroyTheLemur 1 year ago
These were.... online battles I hope?...
If it was lagless normal play then that's just plain sad.
HiiroSora 1 year ago
most of those were fails because of a habit of using the a button or bad aim.
and the worst one was character mix up
pikalink2 1 year ago
Some of those deaths are just plain buffer-induced bullshit.
MasterKnightDH 1 year ago
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MasterKnightDH 1 year ago
I bet if their B moves weren't as easy to kill yourself with, they'd probably be on par with characters like Kirby or Olimar
creed1524 1 year ago
@creed1524 Nope, Fox and Wolf are shit shit shit shit.
KlydeStorm 1 year ago
I ALWAYS end up betting on these types on Spectator.
baconlabs 1 year ago
Ouch, I thought Link was the one who didn't understand recovery, but these space animals understood it less. Hilarity ensued.
MoronicAlecky 1 year ago
Star Fox @ $ $ault
Wingcapman 1 year ago
It seems to me that these recovery failures are more the players' fault than the characters'. I wouldn't just say that the Star Fox fighters really suck that much all the time, considering not everybody tries to recover by using hurricane kicks. :/
OneWithTheNight 1 year ago
@OneWithTheNight Their recoveries are awful too. The players using awful recoveries just make it that much worse.
KlydeStorm 1 year ago
The people who were playing as the star fox characters were probably thinking to themselves: "Hurr, i kick ayuss at dis gayme cuz everywon don't kno hao to kill demslvs."
SuperMegaSegaFan 1 year ago
I like to play with Falco and Wolf, and I use the Classic Controller.
damicroquete2 1 year ago
I rock with starfox characters you just stink
patrickhurley530 1 year ago
@patrickhurley530 I hope you're not referring to ME sucking, because out of all the StarFox characters dying in this video, not a SINGLE ONE is me. You're just dumb.
KlydeStorm 1 year ago 2
I don't know man, I play a pretty mean Falco. These all look either staged or a result of lag, either way.
PhrozenFox 1 year ago
@PhrozenFox You haven't been alive very long, have you? Humans will never cease to surprise you at how stupid they are.
KlydeStorm 1 year ago
@KlydeStorm
You'll have fun with Battalion Wars 2 Co-Op n00bs. They will guarantee you get a God awful rank or just plain mission failure because they do not play smart about protecting your AA units and even meatshield with their AA units.
MasterKnightDH 1 year ago
Why does the Falco always do the same thing on sudden death? What a moron.
Tensin14 1 year ago
I have to watch in low quality cuz my laptop leads like balls
LCWmachinima 1 year ago
Just how often were you thinking to yourself "Can I have a different partner?" in those team matches anyways?
topazshot88 2 years ago
By that time, I realized how terrible 80%+ of the people who use the StarFox characters are, so instead of wishing I had someone else as a partner, I instead brace for failure and try not to die whilst laughing.
KlydeStorm 2 years ago
This is very true. I mean, I played an okay Falco for a while, but everyone uses Falco. If they don't use Falco, they use Wolf and constantly spam his down-smash. It's like your typical With Anyone Pikachu except instead of electrical air tag it's stupor sweeping.
I know ONE person who doesn't do that. ONE.
topazshot88 2 years ago
I never use the Wii remote and Wolf is one of my top characters.
keneblayon45344 2 years ago
This is hilarious. Though I must say, when you're playing as wolf, you tend to forget how useless his side-B move is, resulting in many SD's. (I play with a GCN controller., and no, wolf is not my main. I hardly ever play as him anymore.)
Also, one question: when I play online, there is a slight delay to the response time of the controls. Is this my connection, or is that just how Brawl plays? Has anyone else had this issue?
Xevnest24 2 years ago
That's just how it is. Brawl's online is pretty shitty.
KlydeStorm 2 years ago
argh. I figured as much.
Xevnest24 2 years ago
damn i hate that guys that spams pikachu's b moves all the time like at 1:48, he can be use so much better :(
dewgong12345 2 years ago
I don't think you can blame that second one on the player though. If the Mushroom hadn't run out, he would have made it... right as getting blasted by Ike.
Glutexo005 2 years ago
Lesson learned: Never agree to be Wolf's team partner again.
PokeFire50 2 years ago
sudden death= lol
petpetfood 2 years ago
Actually....I think these idiots were extremely stupid and were trying to use SSBB hacks online and got desynched -_-
GrandDoomFrog 2 years ago
The majority of these were saved before the hacks even existed.
Also, if they did use hacks and it desynced, it would disconnect.
KlydeStorm 2 years ago
Hmm....Then I have no idea why they were so bad maybe they were blind......or really...young >_>...or they just fail...
GrandDoomFrog 2 years ago
Playing with the wiimote sideways is awesome. I wish I could do it O_O
MystiSkye 2 years ago
...That Ike on the Falco Survival Time Trial...I'd so want to fight against him. He does look like he has some skill and it probably looks shameful to go up against such n00bs. Still, for the sake of the video and all, it looked good.
Mewlon 2 years ago
That Ike was me.
KlydeStorm 2 years ago
Kinda figured it was you. XD
Still good fighting. You compete in tournaments?
Mewlon 2 years ago
No, for I have no way to get to one.
And if I did, I'd get wrecked. I'm a terrible player.
KlydeStorm 2 years ago
I loved it when Falco and Link were trying to hide out on the ship's guns and Klyde went down there, killed them both, and still managed to get back safely to the ship. Was great. Though, Klyde is better now than he was at the time of this video, naturally.
Oh, and at the time of this writing, the description doesn't mention this (maybe Klyde will add it after seeing this post), but KlydeStorm is always the one with the "P1" above his head in this video.
FictionAlchemist 2 years ago
Gotcha! Thanks for telling me.
And yeah...that was kinda cool that he spiked both Link and Falco. Still...on that Link...either he was having a bad day...or he sucks too.
Mewlon 2 years ago
I fell bad for that pikachu, such a horrible team mate
GnarlyTheMad 2 years ago 2
Wow, just wow. A ton of furry fail, no offense.
Ironically, this makes me want to be able to play Brawl online(And just in general; My disc is horribly scratched.) just so I can put these people in their places.
sagacious03 2 years ago
That opening music really makes me want to get the old 3 Mario party games. They're the only ones I don't have!
Ganonmustdie2 2 years ago
You are the P1, right?
Anyways, good video. 5*
LexLight1 2 years ago
Always P1.
KlydeStorm 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
..how do you suck so much...
xxxguitarhero 2 years ago
Ask them, not me.
KlydeStorm 2 years ago
8:20
did he really kill his ally with his Final Smash?
hadoukenfighter 2 years ago
epic FAIL
The223Mario 2 years ago
this vid comes with a side order of fail XD
I liked this vid it made me laugh
crazyfeyeet 2 years ago
At least you can connect to a game :(
Megastaw 2 years ago
Your router is likely dropping packets, if it's already set up optimally.
KlydeStorm 2 years ago
I imported the American version of brawl to Australia, so would that have to do with it not connecting?
Megastaw 2 years ago
Possible, but again, it's probably your router. The Wii's online needs to have your router pretty much perfectly set up, or else it will run like shit, or not at all.
KlydeStorm 2 years ago
Mario Kart works perfect. :S
Megastaw 2 years ago
Mario Kart doesn't need 100% frame accurate like Brawl.
KlydeStorm 2 years ago
Is this fake??looks like it!noone is such an idiot to not being able to save himself here(not even me)
totalnounique 2 years ago
100% not fake. Humans ARE this stupid.
KlydeStorm 2 years ago
There should be a big ''sign'' in front of the game box that should say ''NOT FOR MENTALLY CHALLENGED PEOPLE''
totalnounique 2 years ago 3
I'm going to tell you ancient advice that you have taught me...
Internet.
Nintendavin 2 years ago
OH BOY! i can't belive this. It's like they are not even trying.
Zumomaki 2 years ago
"SUDDEN DEATH! GO!!!"
*Falco Side-B's off the stage*
That's probably the biggest fail I've ever seen in SSBB. And the worst part is, is happens many times in the video, lol.
wwfbrawler781 2 years ago
Huh?
I watched the whole thing.
sorastitchi 2 years ago
though sonic may not be the best character but his recovering is good. but anyone playing as ness and lucas using the wii mote sideways also suck. they don't move pk thunder good.
sonicschooler 2 years ago
U sure u're not doing it on purpose?
fullpolish 2 years ago
...what are you talking about?
KlydeStorm 2 years ago
Like, some of these suicides.
fullpolish 2 years ago
I'm not playing as the Star Fox characters in this video, NONE OF THEM.
KlydeStorm 2 years ago
I fail at starfox characters myself. I'll guarenteed get at least one SD from using B-Side in a bad place.
Cooltuber453 2 years ago
we're going to have fun with this thing.... NOOOOOO!!!! lol!
RageOfLeoEX 2 years ago 2
people always say those 3 starfox characters are the best.
they arent
especially in the hands of a moron
AndrewM92 2 years ago 3
playing with the wiimote sideways hurts more than just the gameplay, belive me.
getaris 2 years ago
To me, no, now I'm playing with Classic Controller. ;)
LexLight1 2 years ago
This is sad.
and Brawl is meant to be played with a gamecube controller, no arguements
Firebrand101 2 years ago 8
@Firebrand101
No, it's meant to be played with the Wiichucks. C-Sticking with no drawbacks to it is bullshit.
MasterKnightDH 1 year ago
@MasterKnightDH If you play it with a GC controller, you have to lag between button pressing and the game reacting to it. If you use a wireless controller, it lags a little compared to a wired GC controller.
Besides, bring a Wiimote to a Smash Bros tournament, and you WILL be laughed at.
Emelljee 1 year ago
More like do ANYTHING at a Smash Bros tournament and you WILL be laughed at.
MasterKnightDH 1 year ago
@MasterKnightDH Not really. Unless you are terrible at the game.
Emelljee 1 year ago
Guess what? I'm not.
MasterKnightDH 1 year ago
@Emelljee
And I suppose it's not true that C-Sticking is just the lazy way out? Sounds like tournaments are just like message boards that tell you to suck less if you mention beating the final boss of an RPG without level 99 characters.
MasterKnightDH 1 year ago
@Firebrand101 OBJECTION! You cannot wield a Gamecube controller like a flail. You cannot signal in semaphore using a Gamecube controller. And you certainly can't use a Gamecube controller as a garroting wire. Therefore, Wiimote + Nunchuk is superior.
MimigaJoe 6 months ago
Holy crap, guys. You do not recover with A attacks. You also can move after a recovery move. You ALSO don't want to drive tanks off of cliffs.
Bluhmann 2 years ago 10
Fox is my second most powerful character, because he's fast and easy to control. Wolf's really powerful, but he's very hard to control. Falco... sucks. -_-' All what I can say is that they must surely use the sideway wii remote. Or else they must be beginners. The Wii remote+Nunchuk is my best at all games. Good video anyway! ;)
Ughnaar 2 years ago
Well at least their face will smell nice.
mailanbr 2 years ago 2
Great video. It can get frustrating getting teamed up with people like that, but it's really funny sometimes. I enjoyed the video. I love the intro too; it's brilliant.
And it's always weird when someone dies off the top of the screen like at 10:22.
DragonNature 2 years ago
That's what happens when an Alloy dies off the top, or when Toon Link, Link, or Samus fires their tether before they fly off the top. I'm not sure if it works with ZSS.
KlydeStorm 2 years ago
Cool.
I liked the intro, too.
Mario Party 2 music?
Jayfeather113 2 years ago
Yes. Look Away.
KlydeStorm 2 years ago
So is it Star fail because Its all star fox characters or what?
HuntBelow 2 years ago
Yes.
KlydeStorm 2 years ago
I still play Basic Brawl and Team Battle for some reason.
I guess I like to do nothing and watch as they kill themselves, which tends to happen half the time.
paperSSBMmario 2 years ago
lol this is what makes basic brawl somewhat impossible to win. If you don't get a hit on those people who sd a lot you'll miss out on lots of points.
Fiercelinkmaster71 2 years ago
So are these your friends playing on one console or is this online?
Because they really suck beyond what a normal human is capable of sucking.
Nintendavin 2 years ago 3
This is With Anyone, which explains why they suck so much.
Plus, I'll bet you a million dollars that nearly every one of these players is using the Wiimote sideways...
KlydeStorm 2 years ago
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nice
chavoiia 2 years ago
You didn't watch the whole thing. It hasn't been public for 10 minutes.
KlydeStorm 2 years ago
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Neither have you.
bigbluebot 2 years ago
Except that I'm the one who made the video? I've watched it a dozen times to make sure it set right.
KlydeStorm 2 years ago
no.
just what I was seeing but I like.
and my computer is very slow.
as carried to publish the comment ...!!!
chavoiia 2 years ago