Glen Keane Ties Down A Drawing

[thevanishingflame]

2:26 bless you :)

[cartoonmarc]

I guess once he's drawn the characters a few thousand times, he can more or less wing the proportions and get them right.

[xopenheartx]

if you think this is intimidating to watch, imagine being his clean-up artist and having to take those masterpieces and translate them in the best way possible whilst retaining the same energy he had in the original!

[karisatan]

boy, if i didnt feel like an inadequate animator before, i sure do now!

[LividusLuna]

what I get from this video: GESTURE DRAWING to capture the movement, THEN make it perfect

[TheVeyZ]

My god, i hope i can draw that fast some day...

[Ebrithil]

May be a stupid question, but what is he using? Conte pencil? A black Prismacolor Col-erase?

[Philosofy3]

@Ebrithil hey I don't know if anyone has answered you yet but I will.After looking into it quite a bit myself, I found that Mr. Keane usually uses one of two different pencils.One (the one in the video) is a Grease Pencil (Also known as a China Marker), he used to use a Blaisdell Layout Pencil but they don't produce them anymore. But the Grease Pencil is a modern equivalent. The other he often uses is a Sanford Design Ebony Pencil, they both have large cores, which allows for his broad strokes

[TheCartoonTycoon]

AMAZING

[adix64]

lol that looks like disney's tarzan

[oopaulorafael]

LONG LIVE Glen Keane and Andreas Deja. They worked hard and they are talented. Respect.

[monsteraaron]

Keane always has interesting ideas in his scenes, like the rollerblading idea in Tarzan, but I think his work is kind of sloppy and too broad generally. He works so rough and loose that his assistants have to really pull the scenes together in a way that I don't think is terribly responsible. He has great passion and is an inspirational speaker but there are plenty of animators that I think are better.

James Baxter

Bruce Smith

Nik Ranieri

John Ripa

Khristoff Serrand

I could keep going.

[MarcusMcCabe]

I good animator draws loosely trust me, the looser the better, have you ever seen chuck jones drawings? and its not irresponsible its expected, the flow of the animation only comes when you draw loose, if you try to tighten it up at that stage youl lose alot

[monsteraaron]

It's not that you shouldn't be loose in your first pass it's that he doesn't tie down his loose pass enough and therefor looses control of his scene to a degree. Milt Kahl would do a very rough pass and then tie it down with laser precision which gave him more control over the final scene.

Keane's tightest work and technically most polished is his sequence with the giant golden eagle in Rescuers Down Under. He tied down his drawings much better on that film and it shows. The Beast was a mess.

[MarcusMcCabe]

ok you make a really good arguement haha! but come on no one is as good as Milt was

[monsteraaron]

@charlesboxer

I've been a a professional animator for 14 years so I know the process. The way it usually works is the animator will do a fast rough pass to get the feeling and timing and then does a tie down pass to tighten it up and fix drawing problems to pass off to clean up. Keane's early work, like his sequence in RDU were tied down more and worked better. His later work looks like he relied more on his assistants to finish the drawings and it feels rushed at times. Just my opinion.

[Anteater22]

@monsteraaron I actually agree with this. The forms and the acting is still great, but the lines swim all over the place.

[xopenheartx]

@monsteraaron I think this was really due to his health, as it deteriorated in later years. He actually had a heart attack shortly before working on Tangled & had to step back from directing. Unfortunately not all of us have the energy and exeubrence of some animators like Richard Williams (nearly 80) lol.

[KingleersSquire]

is he disregarding the inbetweens to get it all down in a couple of minutes?

[JAISONRCARVALHO]

I love This Guy....GOD BLESS YOU GLEN KEANE...FOREVER!!!

[savvyweasley]

His lines are gorgeous. I am super envious! Such a talented, TALENTED man! Auugh, love him!

[msneverquit]

Notice how he holds the pencil....That is the key to the lyrical linework. Full arm movement gives his lines rhythm and movement. DRAW YOUR BRAINS OUT IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO CAL ARTS.....The best art school in the U.S.

[ch3ls3a81]

He makes it look SO easy! :-P

[Coatl360]

@ch3ls3a81 draw with him at the same pace and don't worry if you don't finish. makes for great practice



[piklopedia]

his strokes are sooooooow eird, that is not i have seen other animators draw! O-o

it's soooo quick, i say video of mark davis drawing in the 60's, and he drw with his hand on the paper

[patrickborro2000]

he's good but sadly i think was taken of the disney rapunzel project due 2010

[impersonation44]

Realy? Its so sad that no matter how good you are at 2D you will always have problems with employment somewhere along.

[ajmrowland]

Though I do think they're for a 2D "look" with Rapunzel. Still nice to know that PatF hasn't been taken off the slate.

[impersonation44]

Thats good, I hope they keep him on for a long time, it would be nice to see more new 2D movies again. =)

[Chaosmelon]

oh wow

that guy's so fast!

is that tarzan he's drawing? O: omg amazing! :D

[Larukugurl]

I know! I would love to do that, I am thinking of hopefully enrolling in an art school someday. And I thought of Tarzan too when I saw the body structure and loin cloth =D

[anarkybob777]

i really enjoy watching the strokes and movements you apply thanks you for making this video gl to u

[Poohahaha]

what kind of paper is he using? what kind of papers do animators generally use?

[Akhizero]

I think he's using the good stuff here from Cartoon Colour, just standard ingram (sp?) 12 field.

[Akhizero]

Hey, yeah this was from a CalArts lecture last year - the rough he did is right, but for some reason they cut off the rest of the video! He shows the wrong way to tie down a drawing first - then he shows the right way - sadly not shown here cuz it's 100% better!

[chaos406]

Hey, can you tell me whats the proper way to tie down a drawing? Id really appreciate it. Thanks

[Akhizero]

Well as he starts to say here: He knows what the model looks like, and he can go over it and literally start rendering it out "on model" ... but it loses that vitality and life that the rough had. So that he'll do instead, is be a little bit looser about it - concentrate on the flow of the forms, the lines of action - and allows the "on model" drawing to be a bit "off model" but it feels alive! It's a hard thing to explain and I'm really bummed the video cut off. It looked 100% better.

[chaos406]

Thanks for the quick reply Akhizero! It makes complete sense to follow the flow of the gesture, but its kinda hard to know what to do without seeing it done. lol

[chaos406]

It makes complete sense to follow the flow of the gesture, but its kinda hard to know what exactly the difference is without seeing the rest of the video. lol Really cool stuff though!

Thanks for the quick reply Akhizero!

[chaos406]

It makes complete sense to follow the flow of the gesture, but its kinda hard to know what exactly the difference is without seeing the rest of the video. lol Really cool stuff though!

Thanks for the quick reply Akhizero!

[Akhizero]

I know ... i'm not sure who posted the video - I think it might be this guy at school - but you should ask him if he has the rest of it.

[metalgear321]

Looks very Vilppu. Did Keane study his works?

[Gpalmer16]

Where have you hurd this name?

[metalgear321]

Around. A lot of animators I've spoken to has recommended it.

Glenn Vilppu

[jamalanimation]

great, what pencil you use to animate ,??

i use the simple one but after i iport drawing to softwazre and vectorize them lines despeares

[skitfu]

Try using a softer lead, or prismacolors.

I'm new to animation, but I know a bit about transfers

[Gpalmer16]

col erase

[stevenscottbrown]

This was definately a demo from CalArts, maybe two years ago.

[eldano]

how can i get the full dvd or lecture??? is there any place who sells it complete? please let me know! :D

[Gpalmer16]

Its all about how lose you hold the pencil. Glens the man hope he gets out Rapunzel!!! GO GLEN!!!!!

[kristonia88]

this man's a genius!

seeing how naturally he draws is incredible

if only i could do that the i might stand a chance of getting somewhere!