APA Dr. Cue Instruction - Dr. Cue Pool Lesson 22: Suggested 9-Ball Breaking Position

[mikeywikeylikey]

to makemeup2010...apparently you want to get technical so, Dr. Cue is both right AND wrong according to your reasoning...youre saying IF you have two balls left the 9 on the break wins you also say if you have more the two balls the 9 on the break will not get you the win...im in APA and i can tell you he is both correct and incorrect

[Odhinn222]

He might be a legend, but he has his bridge too close for a break shot, not to mention he nearly scratched on the break--I was always taught to try to keep it in the center with the one ball. It didn't get kicked there either, it just came off the rack straight for the right head pocket.

[sixstringindo]

why on earth did he place the cue ball on the head rail... that's only making the opening shot more difficult

[JaMaIcAn897]

@sixstringindo you can only do an 8 ball break shot win on the sides..ive done it twice already and i just learned how to play this year..need i say more?

[MikeyLittle]

No where does he say 9 on the break it is to spread the balls out to help maximize your points after the break which is the point of apa 9 ball.

[madrack1]

Yes exactly, Increasing the maximum energy into the rack Greater increasing your chance to make a ball to stay at the table and possibly making the nine ball on the break that's the way you should break in 8 ball or 9 ball but 9 on the break 50/50 chance , Depends on the person racking the balls also... RACK EM!!!!!!!!

[CYMACGoSu]

APA/Point Rules are all fucking stupid. Just saying.

[madrack1]

TO SOELJAMS About the 9 on the break, A win of the game, Yes... 9 on the break patch also, In the APA As long as you don't scratch But you only got 2 points that game you didn't win your match until you reach your points of your skill level which is 14 for a 1 to 100 for a 9 so NEXT GAME....! RACK EM...!

[chavezglassworks]

it doesn't say any where that is was for a 9 ball on the break just the way to get the maximum energy into the rack.

[Kriterian]

Where did you get your information?

Skill level 9's only need 75 points.

[TheDarthMorphias]

Making the nine on the snap is good, and has a small advantge as well. You get the two points and the break (which in turn may drop more). It has about the same advantage as an early nine. Plus your opponet has to rack once more, which has some mental pressure. Main point to the break is to drop some and spread the rack well. Also a 1 (hdcp) goes to 14 and a 9 (hdcp) goes to 75.

[jburkhammer]

I started using this break vs off the rail position playing in apa, and I make 1-4 balls each time and get ok position usually, helped me point up alot, as well as spreading the balls more. perfect for my game, when you make 4 balls on your first break it seems to get your opponent off balance and pressures him to catch up, forcing errors. I am loving it!! thanx doc!!!

[ihcug90]

i have also started using this break and been pretty consistent with making a ball in and having ok position. great little advantage for my game

[misctube]

Wow Dr. Cue! I met and played a game with him once :D He lives in Cloverdale, ten mins away from my alma mater :D ~misctube

[Trakatero]

Acording to APA rules, if you make the 9 on the break you win the table, but only 2 points, remember in APA the game is about points, so why would you want to only get 2 points if you can get good position to run the table and get more points...

[mtszabo]

@Trakatero: True, but if you're doing all the breaking, your opponenet isn't getting any ponts...

But I agree, it's better to play for position in 9-ball... unless you're Dr. Cue.

[malefactoredpunk]

because your going to get the table and be able to break again.

[XHopeDecaysX]

Making the 9 on the break is a win, logically.

You can hit the 1 - 9, if the 9 goes in, it's win. Why would it be any different?

[BF2TJShorty]

yeah good theory there, but execution wasnt that good

[soeljams]

Dr. Cue was incorrect in saying that you cannot win 9-ball on the break in the APA. The APA rulebook clearly states that you Can win on the break so long as no foul is committed.

[bandit7498]

@soeljams I think he was getting at the bigger picture. It wins the rack but it doesn't win the match. You have to reach your designated points per your handicap to win the match.

[Kriterian]

You don't play for number of "wins" in 9 ball like the pro's do, where only the 9 ball counts as a win.

In the APA you play for points, with the 1 - 8 being worth one point each and the 9 being worth 2 pts. If you only made the 9 on the break, you'd get 2 points and the other 8 are dead, which isn't a win.

[maydaddy05]

@soeljams You do not however, "win", you only advance to the next rack. A "win" is getting to your handicap spot before the other player. Being an 8, I could technically make the 9 ball 75% of the time off the break and still lose to a 1.

[makemeup2010]

@soeljams

Wrong! In the APA you cannot win simply by making the 9 on the break unless you only need 2 points and you break in the 9 on the final rack to get those last 2 points. Simply breaking the 9-ball in doesn't give you a win, only 2 points. However, breaking the 9 ball in BCA will give you a win for that game. APA, however, counts balls and therefor you need to make balls to accumulate the necessary points for your particular skill level to actually win! So, Dr. Cue IS correct!

[antigay7]

you guys are telling a legend how to play!?!

u guys suck

[tofusauce]

@antigay7 lets hear it for the antigay.... .

[antigay7]

@tofusauce what do you wanna hear?

[poolshooter2007]

Cue ball position good, but your hit is dead wrong. Must keep cue ball in middle of table after break.

[videoaccess001]

Agreed. A little low on the cue ball and stop it in the middle of the table. Positioning after break.

[sharpie2178]

looks like he hit it a little to low. He drew it back there it didnt get hit back there