Act now to ensure you can still order pipe tobacco online in the US

[KripDrip]

you cant order cigarettes, ryo tobacco or smokeless tobacco online anymore. Its not fair for cigars and pipe tobacco to be exempt. Either they should repeal the pact act or make it across the board for all tobacco!

[attackthefloor]

cigs in the south mississippi are only 3-4 dollars a pack.

[Psugrad1998]

If that law ever passes, hit me up. I live in PA and can send you tobacco.

[BigBoreWarrior]

for some reason im wondering are you originally from Canada?

[PipeFriendCHS]

I am Dutch

[grsplane]

As I understand it the issue regards minors ordering cigarettes mail order. There is no practical way to verify age on web sales that any resourceful 15 y.o can not circumvent. An easy answer wold be to apply the ban to cigarettes but not cigars/pipes tobacco.

[mrwallaby]

there is also really no way for tobacco to be legal for adults and inacessable to minors. just like with alcohol all they can really do is make it kinda annoying

[lawls12]

ya hes right its outdated it was in 2003.

[NaTaSBlood]

fuck it. they're just hoping that we are all so addicted, or even enjoy it so much that they can get more money from us.

Heaven forbid there being something enjoyable that the common man can still afford!

Screw it.. I'm going to be in the south for a few months Getting some seeds and growing my own damn tobacco FU Government..

[pyoung2010]

A pack of newports here in NC are now 5.53 where I work. Governor also wants to raise the price of packs by another $1.50. This is ridiculous. Newports are gross anyways but prices are soaring.

[pilot1660]

That is not even bad. In Jersey its 7.99 a pack. I dont smoke ciggs but still thats a lot for one pack

[KripDrip]

I just drove through NC a year ago and saw a gas station selling Newports for $3.99. you must be at the wrong store.

[EnricoB1978]

I live in Italy and here ordering tobacco from other countries has been always forbidden as far as I can remember. Somehow this make sense..(depends on the point of view) but what makes me sick is that with all problems our governments has to solve why do they are concerned about tobacco ( ... not tobacco itself but the tax upon it...) and smoking in general? Stop this madness...

[dieterniermann]

Hi, when I hear about all this bullshit I am realy happy that here in Germany, beside all the restrictations we have (no smoking in restaurants and in big pubs), we still can find more than 650 different types of pipe tobacco in qiet moderate prices (10 to 15 Dollars for 1,75 ounce).

Of course the anti-tobacco-hysteria is on in Europe, too. But the resinstence of people made some worse things better in the last monthes, e.g. now it is allowed to smoke im small pubs again.

Cheers, Dieter

[KripDrip]

$10 to $15 for just 1.75 ounce?

thats $130 a pound!!!! 

[AmaneMisaMisa666]

That tax problem looks pretty bad. I hope that changes soon. I am very concerned about this because I really wanted to smoke Boswell :(

You look very handsome in this video, I will make a painting I believe.

[goytabr]

(continued) Pipes themselves are not forbidden, only tobacco is (and I still want to import a Boswell when I have the means - it would be outrageously expensive with shipping and duties), but Mercado Livre - our local equivalent of eBay - bans any form of smoking-RELATED product, which would include even things such as pipe cleaners, lighters, T-shirts or vintage objects featuring cigarette brands... So, no 2nd-hand pipes either!

[goytabr]

Here in Brazil we have never been able to order any form of tobacco. Domestically, the Brazilian Mail's regulations forbid sending any form of tobacco, which makes it impossible to mail-order it (on-line or otherwise). Customs regulations also forbid individuals from importing tobacco directly (only incorporated businesses can). It has always been so and predated the anti-smoking hysteria era. We are currently having a pipe tobacco shortage here and there's nothing we can do... :-(

[danovanw]

Its trying to get people to stop smoking sadly. =(

[nonfatalfonso]

they recently made cigarettes 7 dollars a pack, and 80 dollars a carton.

[YouAre256ColoursToo]

good.

[jambo310]

Cheapest cigs here are $9.63 so be lucky ur in the US

[KripDrip]

the cheapest cigs $9.63? where u live?

[genericsoul]

time to cancel the order on my palm trees and get some tobacco plants instead.

even if this is currently a non issue i'll bet anyone a dollar that our blind and idiotic governor will try and pass something similar,

he's the one that wants to tax cow gas and non diet soda that SNL made fun of.

[N7COF]

Tobacco bill I found that passed the house yesterday is H.R. 1256 & is currently in the senate.

Cheers

Brian

[thekid5254]

Just last week the US Postal Service was complaining about the lack of income - and now they are taking even more money from them!

[ajdonabed]

that's bull****. i dont see ANYTHING positive in that move

[kalli199]

yay, røyksopp :D

its nice for me, as a norwegian, to hear some norwegian music in ur video :)

[PipeFriendCHS]

Royksopp and Moby are my favorite artists, and Moloko!

[camillekh1]

I'm not living in the US, but I totaly support you against this unreasonable martial law against smokers. I wish I could contribute in the petition but it requires a US address and zip code.

I think there has to be something done on a global scale for the decent rational and reasonable smoking choice of free people. this is becoming a dectatorship rules against unharmful people who chose to enjoy an innocent smoke!!

[camillekh1]

where is the link? seems somebody at yt removed it?

[PipeFriendCHS]

It is in the video description, not in the video

[k1awdttt]

sons of bitches!

so much for paying their salaries for nuttin'

[ManiacalMikal]

look at the date, ya mooks...

[falcon02012]

HR 2824 it is hidden message

H= Hitler

R= revisited

[PipeFriendCHS]

lol

[ahmedsadik1983]

No my dear friend they have all the right to do tht,,did u know that mail boxes cause Global Warming?

thanks for the heads up mate i shall be logging into the link and try to do my part after all 4noggins for me is the only decent tobacco resource

hope it will all be stories to laugh upon in the end

cheers

ahmad

[Ismokeadapipe]

F***king Bastard Government. The tax hike...well I guess whatever...now this...pisses me off to no end. They better not....or they are going to see alcohol, tobacco and firearms from me.

[MahkMahkMark]

Just think, we used to be truly free here in the USA. Now we're a facist nanny-state.

[Justice4themeek]

Just another way for the government to control. Very bad idea to try and stop. I will still ship it. Great Video Bro

[mibgd]

I hope this is not for real...I have googled it and can not find anything more recent than 2004 on 2824 ...are we sure this is still going through and did not die in session kids?? email me with info if you can find any info more recent that several years ago

[PipeFriendCHS]

The video description has a link to the bill number HR 2824

[mibgd]

I saw the link ...but again...its not dated....and no material i have found is anywhere near recent....if you can find anything recent...please let me know....

[PipeFriendCHS]

How about Pipephreaks video link?

[mibgd]

I watched that as well...it was very informative....but from what i understand that has to do with tobacco add placement...and the FDA regulating that which is not the same as the addition to the jenkins act of 1949...in which they were trying to limit the tobacco internet sales....the last info on that specific issue i have found are 2004 docs and articles....i am hoping it died in session...i can live with the add placement restrictions...i can't live with the internet sales being banned

[SiCurious]

After a little research, I came up with the same results as mibgd. Nothing later than 2004 regarding HR 2824. According to the Library of Congress website, this revision prevents shipment of tobacco unless duty has been paid in advance. It does not ban shipment of tobacco. UPS does not ship tobacco under its T&Cs, unless it is to be shipped to licensed vendors/distributors. Not sure where Pipephreaks got their information from either.

[mibgd]

thanks for checking up...thats kind of what i thought ...i am the first one to defend freedoms...trust me i hate big government....but i think this is a non issue right now...so we can all relax for now...lets check sources a little better before we scare everyone next time!! cheers

[mibgd]

i should have said expanding the 1949 act...just to clarify which is what i found in the 2004 docs

[travisdear]

ITS OBAMA'S ATTACK ON SMOKERS! We are second-class citizens.

[wainscottbl]

Just like they outlawed the use of "miss" and "Mrs" in the EU, so they try to outlaw ridiculously here...this is the first signs of dictatorship, when they try to control the minor things.

[rogermoore27]

Wow. The U.S. is converting itself into an undemocratic country like what I imagined some third world country to be. I dont envy the country these days.

[KripDrip]

third world countries have a lot more freedom for smokers compared to America, Canada, Australia, and parts of Europe.. Tobacco in all forms is a lot cheaper and they dont have as many smoking bans.

[whiskersneighbour]

This bill doesn't directly address online sales, but it effectively ends it.

Banning shipment will mean you can't send tobacco as a birthday or Christmas gift to your dear old granddad. Friends can't buy and trade for each other and ship back and forth. So, this cuts much deeper than online sales.

[CatholicBiologist]

Here is why I think they may be doing this:

The new tobacco tax would be more harsh on the little "brick and morter shop's", since online stores don't have the exact same tax deals as if it were bought in the state at a brick and morter type shop.

This means that the small shops might get put out of business and the big online corporations would grow. So, by eliminating the online thing, the tax would effect all tobacco shops equally.

I think its a stupid idea.

[pipephreaks]

I just wrote both of our state senators, and the state senator in North Carolina who is threatening a filibuster.

[pipephreaks]

Here's the note:

Dear Senator Lautenberg,

I would like to urge you to vote against the proposed legislation that would make it illegal to purchase tobacco products and have them shipped across state lines. Not only would this harm an already damaged economy, this legislation, coupled with the tobacco tax is discriminatory and against the principles this great nation was founded upon. I appreciate you fighting for the rights of tobacco smokers to pursue their own happiness.

[MrBojangles447]

i just sent your message to both of the mass senators. i hope it works

[pipephreaks]

Excellent. We have to get everyone on board. This doesn't only affect smokers. If tobacco is villified, what is next? We have to protect the freedoms of the things we dislike as much if not more than the things we like or the whole ball of wax is at risk of going up in flames. Thanks Bojangles

[pipephreaks]

THE LEGISLATION IS HR 2824 Put that in your notes!

[KripDrip]

i hate when you people use the economy and jobs argument to defend the biggest killer (tobacco). Its the only legal product which if used as intended kills. It kills more people than car crashes, guns, food poisoning, aids, alcohohol, illegal drugs, prescription drugs and terrorism combined.

How can you defend something like that and say its creating jobs?

[PipeFriendCHS]

Thanks!!!

[MrBojangles447]

people want us to quit smoking because apparently smoking kills babies according to the anti smoking commercials. the only problem is that they only show anti cig tobacco, but because pipe tobacco is still tobacco any law affecting cigarette sales also affects pipe tobacco. the government wants to deprive us the freedom to be happy with our unhealthy decision of smoking by making it so expensive and difficult to obtain tobacco that people won't find it worth the effort anymore.

[1968eric]

They just want to exercise power. I believe all politicians, left, right, and center are addicted to power and they look for targets like us to exercise it on. 95% of the population couldn't care less whether we can order pipe tobacco online, and the bureaucrats will dress this up as a thing to promote public health and well being. So, we're a prime target. "Look at the great thing your government is doing - we're stopping these people from killing themselves with tobacco."

[cacrow]

What's the link for more info? Anyone know a bill number associated with this motion?

Thanks!

[ohzmigod]

it is probably a way that they are trying to get people to go out and buy from local stores rather than warehouses. the more money in circulation in your own community the better?

[N7COF]

Must be about tax revenue @ state & local level.

[saxmanmax]

Doesn't help the environment at all!

People will have to drive to their local tobacconist, which is less efficient per package than delivery by mail.