guys!!!! pacquiao landed way more punches than marquez did....also power punch too!!!! give me one good fact why marquez should had won... people that say pac won the fight have a statement by saying pacquiao landed more punches than marquez did.... but people that say marquez won the fight dont have anything to back it up
@kingdaleclarke pacquiao won the fight cause he is the one that won more round for the judges... how are u guys gonna complain if marquez points is not even close to pacquiao... if the point was different by 1 or 2 point then the argument will be serious... but the judges who graduate from college for that give a big different in points.. WIN BY PACQUIAO
pacquiao and marquez will fight again in november... pacquiao is fighting timothy bradley in june and marquez is fight devon alexander and i guess marquez gets a guranteed rematch with pacquiao if he beats alexander
@kingSpork1 dude just shut the fuck up. Roach has parkinsons and he's the best trainer in the world. You don't have parkinsons and you're probably some fat kid eating oatmeal and posting on the internet, everybody like if you agree.
@DanIrish409 Awww are you a "downy" too? dont worry son, you can polish my knob for a dollar a day if you cant find work, and after a month i will promote you to licking my backdoor for two dollars a day. that sounds like a good career move for you. I will get the application form ready, and dont forget to bring a crayon so you can sign up.
This is how it is in boxing, you MUST beat the champion to win, there is no way around it. This fight was decided on technicalities rather then punching count.
@Jose21443 yeah, that's the fight everybody wants to see. but They are already talking about Pacman Marquez 4 because of Floyd's jail time. But Floyd tweeted that his time behind bars could be rescheduled so there might be a chance.
Marquez wins because 1. He had the more dominant rounds 2. He landed the harder punches 3. He always made pacquiao back off in their exchanges 4. Never appeared hurt or bothered. 5. He made pacquiao bleed. Indications as to why pacquiao lost 1. He went back to his heels. 2. Looked fatigued and bothered (dropped his mouthpiece just from breathing) 3. His corner panicked (freddy practically admitted he was losing) 4. Crowd. HBO said the crowd was 50/50. however the pac fans were silenced
@IcyMonkey100 Marquez also cut Pacquiao's lower lip. Watch the fight and see it for yourself with Buboy using the cotton to stop the bleeding. Far out ignorant Pacqiao fans
Freddie speaks the truth unlike the mayweathers, real gentle man, but doesnt mean who the better triner is, i just feel the Mayweathers got superior fighting skills
@simon10177 pac and roach want mayweather too. but arum doesn't. simple. pac stood up and said he'll take on mayweather, take the tests and share the purse floyd wants. and mayweather is obviously no coward. he even made his own attempts at making the fight happen too. but no matter how close the two fighters get, the bottom line is that it's up to arum. mayweather is his own promoter but pac isn't. arum knows he can make more money off of pacquiao by avoiding mayweather.
To all you idiotic marquez fans and pacquiao fans.
Aside from the compubox and herald ledderman scores which favors manny,
marquez DIDN'T DO ENOUGH to win.
He was backpeddaling, he wasn't agressive, HE'S THE CHALLENGER, he gave up during round 11 and 12th. When you up against the BEST P4P, you gotta beat him convincingly or knock him out which marquez fails to do.
Simple as that.
So cry all you want on both sides. Manny Won. Simple as that.
@justcallmehowie u r right p4p title won him the fight, reality was manny lost a close fight if u scoreth cards with out seeing who each fighter was.. u contradict ur own point in a way.. he scored less so he loses man , if u r p4p and u given the victory in a platter...truth is the boxing federations dont want to mess up the manny FMjr fight.
"Pac diehards like *yourself*..." so if I hadn't said, it what tells you that I should then be included? "what most believe in the sport..." Ok you have little idea of what your even leading into now, do you. I'm not going to waste any more of my time. It's like reasoning with a child. To you personal opinion seems to subdue any need proof or evidence- anything just to keep yourself rambling. I took to this discussion thinking you had bogus facts to why JMM won, and you have openly confirmed it.
@sk5williams YEAH PEOPLE !! MARQUEZ WON COZ WE BELIEVE THAT TO BE A CHAMPION , YOU SHUD BE BEHIND ON ALL COMPUBOX STATS...THAT TO BE A CHAMPION, YOUR FACE SHUD BE MORE BRUISED THAN YOUR OPPONENT ..THAT TO BE A CHAMPION, YOU SHUD BE LESS AGRESSIVE THAN YOUR OPPONENT AND BACKPEDAL YOUR WAY TO WIN THE BELT... KUDOS TO ALL OF YOU JMM BELIEVERS, WE HAVE BEEN ROBBED !!!! HAHAHAHAHA
i guessed you'd watched HBO luckily i watched a channel that was'nt contracted to Pac and the larger pay per views. Other channels like boxnation, Khan, Berto etc commented on what fight on what fight were they watching rut trhen HBO had a financial iterest in PAc winning + not ruining a Pac Floyd bout also compubox is done by a computer expert who designed the same for tennis, they're not experts, they dont take lessons, + officials they had Lara beating Williams, Sturm over Macklin LOL.
that's the difference i like both equally, i'm not favouring either while your a declared Pac fan. You obviously dont know what compubox is Compubox is 2 guys pressing a button when they think a boxer's scored, its been wildly innacurate many times were they've scored missed shots + not scored scoring shots, in the 1st 2 fights it had JMM landing more, in this 1 it was clear JMM outlanded with the cleaner heavier shots + Nacho was right to say he was winning, you hope not to get robbed.
He friggin lost, you can tell by Freddie's demeaner he knows Pac lost + Arum is the biggest Leech in Boxing between him + King the 2 of them have sucked this sport dry. Lying scumbags. Roach is saying the opposite to what was going on in the ring - jeez it makes you wanna throw up.
@1969JohnnyM Would you care to explain how Manny lost?
And please don't say 'because he (Pacquiao) "looked" like he lost before the decision', or 'the crowd "knew" Marquez won...' these are factors judges do not take into account when they are scoring...
The fight was undeniably close, but if you ask me, people get way too caught up in the action.
@sk5williams That's a very easy answer, for a starter i'm impartial to both fighters, i hav'nt got Pac, JMM or Freddie Roach vids, (3) JMM ring generalship in the fight was far better, forget compubox no real fan or boxer pays heed to it, do you know what it is ? (4) JMM landed the cleaner, heavier punches, Pac threw a lot but mostly hit air, arms + gloves. Most fighters + fans who are neutral + not part of Top Rank, HBO or team Pac had it as a fairly clear JMM win.
@1969JohnnyM HBO had it as a clear JMM win...? Did you see Lederman's card? But I assume your going to tell all the obvious flaws in Lederman's case too, right... No, I didn't say compubox was a perfect system, but why should it be over looked? Just two "guys"? Do you think they get any old bum off the street to do the job? I think your overlooking the professionalism taken into account... In fact I think it's ignorant for the average viewer to put themselves higher than any official there.
@sk5williams The other channels who i might add are'nt financially tied into Pac + a potential Pac Floyd pay per views all disagreed with HBO etc. Khan, Berto etc even commented "what fight is HBO presenters watching, HBO even struggled to show any sequence that made PAC look good. Compubox is done by some nerds, no boxing knowledge needed its done by guys who originally did the same for tennis + officials you are joking, the same officials who has Williams beating Lara etc
@sk5williams Lederman's card has been off the judges scores many times + again any counting system with a human factor has a chance of error, missed shots etc, being influenced by the crowd, to outright corruption. The ref's are supposed professionals but they still badly fuck up sometimes ie ref Russell Mora who let Agbeko be lowblowed over 20 times with no pts taken away, scored 2 wrong KD's + was biased to Mares hence IBF rematch cos of outcry + yeah that's real professionalism.
@1969JohnnyM I didn't watch the HBO PPV, through research I found the Lederman card. Lederman rarely gets it wrong. Every fight I've seen the Lederman card has been 99% spot on. You do know he is a retired boxing judge himself? Other than that I find all your other arguements poorly supported or irrelevent. Something about nerds and fucking up... In summary, if your basing this on "human factor" or "fucking up", that's why we had a trilogy. And after 3 fights they STILL had Marquez the loser...
@sk5williams Your a fool if you think judges are so infallible, try watching Sven Ottke fights and you'll see how professional these judges are. Lederman has been off loads of times + so are judges. I take it you had Williams beating Lara or Sturm against Macklin. You keep worshipping Pac + i'' keep watching boxing. Cant believe the shit your coming out with, with the robberies that have occured in boxing, they had 3 fights because so many boxers, fans etc thought JMM won.
@1969JohnnyM Heres the thing dude Pac is the Champion Jmm is the challenger.. in order to win the fight Jmm must be the aggressor or win it convincingly. In my opinion Jmm outsmart Pac teach Pac a boxing lesson and Jmm landed more clear shot BUT he is not aggressive and he did not make hes win convincing.. even thou Jmm landed clearer shot Pac is the aggressor and Pac landed more shot even thou its not very clear but the fact is it landed! so the judges have to do its job.. for me thou Jmm win.
@iLoveNaughtyGirls01 So walking in straight lines, not cutting the ring off, hitting mostly air, arms + gloves, + getting your face used as a speedball is a winning formula - the sport is called boxing not brawling. Benitez, Martinez, Mayweather, Ray Leonard, Toney, Whitaker all the way back to Tunney, Willie Pep + Muhammed Ali were counterpunchers, also in the first 2 fights it was JMM who was the champ, Pac fans did'nt mind then that Pac had'nt ripped it away.
@iLoveNaughtyGirls01 I've heard everything from JMM stood on Pac's feet which they actually both did + anyway thats common between a southpaw + orthodox boxer to compubox which is proven unreliable it is'nt even a computer. I've also heard that the judges are professional's etc which really makes me laugh - these same judges had Williams beating Lara, Sturm over Macklin, Helenius over Chisora let alone half a dozen Sven Ottke bouts were the judges robbed his opponents.
@iLoveNaughtyGirls01 compubox is 2 guys pressing buttons when they think they've seen a scoring blow, like anything with a human input it can fail. It has been shown to be very innacurate, it must also be remembered HBO etc has a large financial incentive to have Pac win as he + Floyd bring in the big PPV's.It must also be noted that it was JMM who was the Champ in the 1st two bouts + Pac fans was the challenger but it seems the rules are different when your the cash cow.
@1969JohnnyM When did I say the judges are infallible? Or there's been no robberies? The great thing about Lederman is that he actually explains, from a judges view, why he thought the round went to that person. There are many things judges pick up that average viewers don't. This isn't amateur boxing. Give me a fight where Lederman was WAY off the official decision. Not by one judge- the "overall" decision. So you believe Marquez was robbed not 1, not 2, but 3 times? Your as bad as Marquez lol
@sk5williams Yeah like Lederman giving rd 12 in their 2nd bout to Pac despite it being the clearest JMM rd even all the judges, the whole rest of the HBO gave it to JMM and even mention that Lederman's card goes against EVERYONE else + that's just 1 clear rd. even your beloved compubox had JMM landing 19 to every 15 Pac blows in the 2nd fight + the 3rd was a clearer JMM bout, also zero KD's. Stop sucking Pac's dick + realise boxing has always been about $ + Pac after Floyd brings
@1969JohnnyM Hold on, so the only example of a Lederman card failing is Pac-JMM 3? I thought you said Lederman has had in wrong "many times"? Case closed, another point for me. Next, "boxing reviews" etc.- many reviews had it for JMM, however, people have replayed the fight and look beyond the "action itself". JMM has fought the same fight for the whole trilogy. In the 3rd he was the same old JMM. HBO? HBO is a television broadcasting/programming network you eccentric, it doesn't own boxing.
@sk5williams No but it is dependent on PPV's you fuckin idiot hence criticsm of channels that do PPV's + as for fighting the same are you on about Pac's great technique of going in straight lines, only forward + throwing lots of punches whether they land or not, remember i like both boxers whilst you hero worship just 1 in fact it sounds like you want to suck Pac's cock with your the ref's are pro's, the judges are pro's -no there not they're no more experienced than an avid fan or ex boxer.
@sk5williams i boxed a little amateur for the immaculata boxing club, i have cousins one who controversially missed out on the olympic team + is now a well known trainer, another who was a pro etc, most of my family have boxed and i've been to the castle street gym loads when i was younger, i'm not some armchair prick who falls for hype like yourself. Practically everyone forget fight 1 + 2 thought JMM won, i'm sorry you believe your hero lederman + have Pac on a pedestal i just like all boxers
@1969JohnnyM "dependent on PPV's"... again your arguments are either poorly supported or are just completely irrelevent. I don't know how you link subjects like this with your ideas of "boxing conspiracies". You sound like a very insecure person. "straight lines, only forward"... well it got the job done 2 times prior, what did you expect for the 3rd if JMM fought exactly the same? "i boxed a little"- and for that, your rep reigns beyond that of any boxing judge, ref, or official? Keep dreaming.
@sk5williams maybe your just an arsehole who has pac on a pedestal and would think he'd won if you were told so, most fans + people within boxing think JMM got jogged in the 3rd bout, it's not up to debate, only a few Pac fans, think so + the only ones within the sport who think different are people with a financial interest in Pac. Fuck knows what conspiracy theories your on about, sounds like your a dreamer who probabluy wets the bed after dreaming about your hero Pac, nearly
@sk5williams all fans, boxing commentaters, journalists + other boxers etc thought JMM won, the fact your saying a brawler is superior to a counter puncher is laughable when you consider most of the ATG's were counter punchers ie Ali, Pep, Leonard, Mayweather, Whitaker etc etc. Stick to watching women's netball as you know shit about boxing. The uproar is why they're doing a 4th bout you fuckin retard. I wont bother engaging anymore as its clear your in love with pac not the sport
@1969JohnnyM "all fans"... etc. lol what rock are you living under? None of your points are attestable... You have backed not one your arguments up. All you've accomplished was statements from either your own opinion, manifestations out of thin air, or through verbal attacks. You sir have proven my point to why so many people have been deluded in the outcome of Pacquiao-Marquez 3. And no, Pac isn't my only hero. I box southpaw myself, so I follow many southpaw boxers- Martinez, Wright, Hagler...
@sk5williams Whilst Hagler was a southpaw, he often fought orthodox also as he did a lot in the Leonard fight which i gave to Hagler as he landed the clean hurtful punches, Martinez although not orthodox like JMM is also a counterpuncher + is nothing like Pac as Pac is more a great fighter than boxer. Pac fans have also come out with rubbish about JMM standing on his feet, ANYONE who has boxed or knows anything about boxing knows this happens when you get a leftie + a rightie + both
@sk5williams were guilty of it. It seldom happens on purpose as you'd have to glance down as both men's feet are moving you would likely end up KTFO + if you hav'nt noticed there are more with my view on who won the fight with out of thin air Khan, Donaire, Jones jnr, Manny Steward + on + on + on. Only you self declarded Pac fans + the money men of boxing thought he won. Opinion is so against the result that there is gonna be a 4th fight even your own Canadian channels such as CBC
@sk5williams Sports had all the the reputable boxing journalists having it at best a draw but most had it a clear JMM win, ESPN, Yahoo, AP, Pac's biographer all 114-114 the rest maxboxing, LA Times 115-113, NY daily news 116-112, Boston Herald 117-111, Reuters 116-112, BBC, SKY, Boxnation TV 117-111, Donaire, Khan, Stewart, Jones jnr etc all had it a clear JMM win. Many mentioned including Canada(CBC Sports)etc Lederman's ridiculous card of Pac being 4rds up but then you love him 2
@1969JohnnyM Thank you, so it was a bit of an exaggeration to so that "all" boxing reviews had it for JMM. The more-ridiculous would have to be Yahoo, who scored it 11 rounds to 1 JMM's way. Khan, like others, has said that he needs to watch the replay, which I encourage everybody to do. Yes, I am aware of the ways of Hagler because I'm a right-handed southpaw myself. I also gave it to Hagler because, much like JMM, Leonard's flurries (flashy as they were) seemed partially to hit shoulders etc.
@sk5williams regardless most reputable boxing press/websites had it for JMM apart from idiots like you who've used excuses like JMM stood on Pac's feet etc regardless JMM at 38yrs old, moving up 2 wt divisions cos PAc refused to meet in the middle, Pac's choice of gloves + size of ring + most neutrals had a Marquez win.
@1969JohnnyM And "again"... when did I remotely bring up about about the foot stomping? When did I say boxing wasn't a business, or hadn't any corruption? "Finding me on Youtube", the referee... what did the ref do to throw the fight in Pacquiao's favor anyways? I mean if your claims were the least bit relevent, maybe I'd actually take you seriously.
@sk5williams When did i say you personally said he commited foot stomping i said Pac diehards like yourself hasve used it as an excuse + wow what do you have on your home page multiple vids on that very subject. To be honest i find it hard t6o take you seriously as your opinions go against what most believe in the sport. The decision was so bad that instead of team Pac doing they're usual + trying to let mother time diminish JMM's superior skills Arum's having to do a quick rematch.
@sk5williams also when did i say the ref threw this particular fight. Is English your first language ? You inferred that the judges are professionals, Lederman is basically infallible etc when that's complete tosh as scoring a fight is subjective to individual thinking, saying that certain rules apply ie ring general ship etc + as much as you go on about the judges + Lederman who had Pac 4rds up which is fuckin laughable. I said officials fuck up + the mighty dollar is often the
@sk5williams Lederman had the laughable score of Pac 4rds ahead which even his fellow presenters thought was way off. You keep ignoring everyone involved in boxing who thought JMM won. By the way i only boxed at schoolboy level but my family is involved in Irish boxing still, i used to go to Eastwoods gym a lot. Were can i
@sk5williams find you on U tube as you sound like you still hav'nt learnt the ability to think for yourself. I LOVE boxing but anyone with a brain knows its a business first, boxing as much as i love it, it is the most corrupt sport going, try reading the sweet science by A J Liebling all about corruption, its endemic when
@sk5williams there's so much $'s, boxing orgs taking kickbacks for ratings, boxerscheating(Margarito,Resto etc doping Toney, Jones jnr) referees(Laurence Cole which also involved your sainted HBO etc), trainers (panama Lewis etc) + judges as Lou di Bella etc said who trains + reviews them, only large outcry gets a review +
@1969JohnnyM Check out Ottke Reid + tell me if you think thats a honest job. Roger Tillerman for his corrupt bullshit work has been rewarded with being a judge. This guy is the worst ref ever + he's now doing the same as a judge, zero training to be a judge, my granny would do a better job. check the 1st few rds of Ottke Reid
@sk5williams you only have to watch Roger Tillerman refereeing Ottke vs Reid to see this shit does happen, fans know Tillerman is a corrupt. in Europe he's known for helping German or home boxer even though he's a Belgian. For his corrupt, biased work he's been rewarded with becoming a judge, he judges in N America too, check
@sk5williams in the most $'s, HBO went against every international boxing reviews apart from Asia + even some Philippino press said JMM won as did Nonito Donaire, Amir Khan, Roy Jones, Manny Steward, SR leonard etc. HBO has a financial interest in Pac winning, HBO is skint + Pac brings in the idiot casual fans + their PPV cash who know shit about boxing + confuse it with brawling/fighting etc such as yourself. Take Pac of his pedestal + realize he's great but JMM has his number.
@sk5williams JMM landed cleaner, heavier blows, he landed combo's, all Pac did was follow him around the ring, he did'nt cut it off + JMM picked him off repeatedly with clean shots + combo's, beautiful counter punching + great ring generalship. Pac looked what he is, a brawler with power + a high work rate which is great if someones standing there to be hit, Marquez was'nt. Pac's great but JMM just shows how 1 dimensional Pac is. Sorry Pac fans _ its just how most saw it.
@1969JohnnyM I'm a Pac fan, and like I said- it was a close fight no doubt. That's why I take my hat off to Marquez. All what you said was true, but the fact is it's not how you start a fight, it's how you finish. Firstly compubox shows Pacquiao landing the more of the heavier shots, but let me guess- that was "rigged" too, right? Secondly, Nacho did what all trainers SHOULDN'T do with there fighter: tell him he was winning the fight! Marquez slowed down in the last 2, 3 rounds...
@sk5williams That's the difference i like both while your a declared Pac fan. Compubox is 2 guys pressing a button when THEY THINK a punch has scored, they miss many that score + they score many that miss it's been proven innacurate many times. Anything with a human factor has an ability to get it wrong, in the previous 2 bouts it had JMM outlanding Pac + this 1 was JMM's clearest win with no KD's to make up for JMM's better boxing ability, also JMM landed the heavier cleaner shots.
Funny you mention Karate my soon to be 14yr old does Karate + some working out at a boxing club also, but personally i dont know much about it so dont know your really on about. I also find it funny as Japanese World Champs like the great boxer's Toshiaki Nishioka, Takashi Uchiyama + fellow great Philippino Nonito Donaire + Pac's friend + teammate + fellow World Champ Amir Khan had it as a clear JM Marquez win also, are they as you put it racist also because they're not deluding themselves.
How the hell is racist to say the judges let Pac win as he's a bigger moneymaker than JMM, i was only saying what boxing fans already know. I LOVEboxing, I'm a fan of boxing 1st over any hero worshiping, i also credit anyone who gets in the ring but it is fairly noticable that only hardcore Pac fans thought he won, but you guys would convince yourself he'd won if he KTFO. JMM won this bout + 99.9% of all neutral fans think that way. I feel sorry for those that wont admit the truth to themselves.
Now Freddie think mayweather will give pacquiao problems . hang on .. lets make this sound sense ... didnt Freddie say mayweather is the easiest fight ? lol HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHNAHA MARQUEZ WHOOPED YOU GUYS 3 TIMES NOW LOL HISTORY !!!!
i havent heard much from the pactards here lately, but i guess they found out PACQUIAO CANT FIGHT WITH OUT HIS DRUGS,The haters that think pacquiao can beat Floyd dont know shit or havent seen Mayweather fight for long. they just started watching boxing n pac man is their idol, Floyd retired cause no one could beat him and now whats to fight the best. bob arum know the truth that why he dont want risk it. pactards need to go back and watch floyds old fights.makes his opponents think they can win
GAH!!!!!!!!!!!! I JUST WANT TO TELL FREDDIE TO USE NEGATIVE REINFORCEMENT AND TELL MANNY HE'S THE P4P WHAT HE DOING GETTING OUTBOXED A 38 YEAR OLD CMON. I know manny can fight btr than tht u gotta bring the best in his wtf bring his will out if you to his focus. good god sumtimes even a champion needs a good swift kick in the ass and work for real.
pacman is a victim of expectation, his failure to knock marquez out gives d perception of his defeat,but d truth is he landed more shots than marquez & d judges got d better angle to see that,. i agree w/ wt emanuel steward says that marquez did not do enough to steal d crown..& wow somebody hit JMM hard that made his face looks like a crippled butt & gave him a gift to look like chinese in that day..lol
@bukibum is dt ur basis of mayweather beating pacman? ok lets use ur logic!, how bwt mayweather beat delahoya in controversial decission & manny tko delahoya in 8 rnd, mayweather tko hatton in round 10 while pacman murdered hatton in rnd 2..wt can u say abwt that?
@corgi926 I guess for me its about styles and what Marquez has managed to do 3 times now shows how Manny struggles with counter punchers, something that we all know Mayweather is extremely good at, probably the greatest ever counter puncher there is. Then there is Mayweathers defensive skills that I think a second to none.
And I shouldnt have saidMayweather would end Manny, he isnt the pound for pound champ for nothing....it will be a good battle nonetheless....
haha you are a gak. Manny scored more shots than JMM so catch yourself on. I do love the sport you twat and when manny retires am not sure i would pay for pay-per-view, manny is boxing. You have the sexual issue aswell you take this so seroius i am starting to think u actually have JMM's Cock in your mouth.
Freddie is a legend supr job with the pacman. Floyd ya pair of knickers get it on or retire stop fighting no bodies . Bet ye this comment annoys all yous hahah love it. Pacman going to destroy mayweather if it happens
@Sweetpea451 Pac lost, learn to love boxing rather than one individual. I respect both, ones a great fighter the other is a great boxer. On this occasion even moving up 2 whole weight divisions + aged 38 + Pac having choice of ring size, weight of gloves JMM put up a masterful performance. If you have a sport called Pac lover fair enough but for most of us the sport is boxing + we're supposed to be impartial, its the judges etc who are effected by who's the moneymaker not the true BOXING fan.
@Sweetpea451 Another person who has Pac's cock in his mouth, love the sport and not 1 individual, I like Pac and JMM, but even after JMM to make the bout happen is forced to move up 2 divisions to welter when team Pac says Pac is a natural jnr welter, being 38yrs old, Pac choosing small gloves + a small ring JMM boxed Pac's head off, just grow a pair + accept it, Pac lost this 1 apart from diehard Pac fans, most of the neutrals thought JMM won it. The judges just knew who the cash cow was.
@1969JohnnyM DID MARQUEZ DOMINATE PAC?WHO WAS THE CHAMP.WHO WAS COMMING FORWARD AND TAKE THE RISK OF HIT AND GET HIT WHOS COMING FORWARD,PAC LANDED THE MOST PUCHES,JJM HAD THE CLEARER SHOT AND DID BETTER THAN MOST EXPECT FROM JMM,PAC CLEARLY WON THE FIGHT NOT ITS JUST NOT THE BRUTAL K0 WE ALL EXPECT,MARQUEZ DIDNT FIGHT LIKE A CHAMP OR A WARRIOR HE WAS TOO CAUTIOS,HOMEBOY THERES NO WAY MARQUEZ WON THE FIGHT,ONLY MEXICANS OR FLOMOS FANS THINK HE WON,I AINT A RACIST!!!RIP JACK HERRER!
@corgi926 Well i'm neither a Mexican or a Philipino, i like both boxers, i also like Floyd whilst you obviously have a Philippino slant seeing as you've put your from Cebu City. I am guilty of being Irish, neutral in my opinion on this fight, i did do a little amateur boxing around 30yrs ago + i am a massive boxing fan. Unfortunately we get fans of Pac, Floyd not fans of boxing, the Mexicans on the whole are pretty fair which i put down to them having lots more Champs than say the Philippines
@corgi926 so whilst your ilk hero worship Pac + come out with crap to back up their delusions such as the useless compubox, not understanding the dynamics of southpaw vs orthodox. His own corner had him losing, his mate Khan had him losing big as did Donaire + nearly every boxer, website, fan etc, only diehard Pac fans thought he won, even some Philippino sports press thought Pac lost + that he was gifted a win.Pac brings in lots of thick, deluded fans who spend lots + are easily duped, with
@corgi926 the kind of mentality that some Pac fans have where they worship Pac the man + not the sport of boxing they could convince themselves that Pac won even if he was KTFO. If crooked judges said Pac had won even as he lay there unconcious we would have people like you happy as a pig in shit not the least put out that the joke is on you as they empty your pockets, they know only fools like you would suck it up whilst most of the world would see thru it + feel angry.
its noticable that pretty much every boxer, trainer, critic + most of planet earth etc thought Marquez won, the only people who gave it to Pac are diehard Pac fans or patriotically induced Philippino's. For God's sake his own corner thought he was losing, his team mate + friend + fellow world champion Amir Khan thought Marquez won. The excuses like JMM stood on his feet etc + not understanding what a counterpuncher is, is laughable. Pac is great but this was a defeat in most folks eyes.
@hirokazuquzawa Yes he's a great fighter, but you worship the guy whilst i just love boxing. I like both boxers but in this bout JMM won, most of the world thought he won, his own team + Manny himself thought he'd lost, look what his corner were saying, look at the body language. His friend, teammate + fellow champ Amir Khan thought he'd lost + i know not all Asian's are deluding themselves as fellow Philippino world champ Nonito Donaire thought he'd lost as did Japan's Ao, Shimoda,Nishioka etc
@hirokazuquzawa Pac is a great boxer but this is a sport not hero worshipping, Pac is'nt a pop group with teenage fans, i dont know your age but i'd guess your pretty young when your scoring a bout on personality + not on the actual performance. You do realize after the 1st draw Pac refused to fight JMM for 4yrs thinking age would catch JMM up, then a 2nd debatable bout + again JMM is ducked for another 3yrs, why do you think he does that, the 1st two fights were close the 3rd was a JMM win.
@1969JohnnyM if you know boxing you don't have to comment like that to me you are so racist, We asians doesn't deserve it Go to see our Karate fight Us if you can
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This decision clearly tells the traditional way of judging where judges mark the fight from one dimentional view must end. They must have at least 10 JUDGES with tv screens from all views.
@MrJimdwheeler There´s a complete video where you can see that manny started the old step on foot trick a couple of times in the first round, then Marquez responded him with the same...
Its funny how pac never has any kind of problems when he wins, but as soon as he gets his ass kicked(morales, 3 times vs marquez) all of a sudden he gets cramps, his shoes are tight, he has pms, and other ridiculous stuff. Face the fact that marquez has your number and will always REALLY beat pac.
99% of the world saw this as a Marquez win so if your the 1%, your a Pac lover fan, a patriotically deluded Philippino,you work for HBO or your part of team Pac. Pac + his whole team thought he'd lost til the crooked money maker decision came in, even his team mate, friend + fellow world champion Amir Khan thought he'd lost badly + like Pac then lied that he'd won it after the crazy decision. Marquez would have needed to KO pac to draw this fight. I love boxing but hate the corruption.
@1969JohnnyM 100 % people in all walks believe pacquiao won only mexiicans can't accept the facts..poor marquez always crying of not making it. he's coward backpedalling and using dirty tricks..poor marquez better plant cassava in mexico.
But he DID'NT get hit by a big punch did he, only die hard deluded Pac fans and mostly Philippino fans and HBO who are riding the Pac money train. This is killing boxing, Arum and King have killed boxing and are bleeding it to death, i struggle to justify boxing to my son these days with money orientated tv, promoters and judges and the corrupt spaggetti organisations. Marquez clearly won and the ridiculous arguements his fans try to justify this joke of a decision are as bad as the above.
I think marquez is lucky bcoz he was not hit by a big punch, but still Manny is the strong puncher bcoz he busted the face of Marquez.. I watched the fight 3 times and no doubt Manny won this fight the Judges are right!!
If there will be a 4th fight for sure JMM is at risk he will fall!!!
I think marquez is lucky bcoz he was not hit by a big punch, but still Manny is the strong puncher bcoz he busted the face of Marquez.. I watched the fight 3 times and no doubt Manny won this fight the Judges are right!!
Pacman win this fight if you watch HBO copy. There is scorecard. it the right angle Pacquiao landed clear punch. You can see face of marquez his eyes is swelling. compare to pacquaio. for me Round 1,3,4,6,8,9,10,12 pacman win. Watch the HBO video.
Marquez is a very good liar. How come he said pacquiao never counter punch him. Look at the replay he eat pacman punch. His face is swelling. Got by right hook and straight punch.
Jmm is a bum who doesnt throw enough punches to win a decision...Manny clearly won all 3 fights to me...idk wat ppl are watching wen jmm nd manny fight. Sure their both evenly matched but pac takes the cake against juan...but neither of the two can fuk wit Floyd...one of the two could tell yu that lol. JUAN said Floyd is a better boxer than Manny...but we all know that
marquez had a close fight with pacquiao. does this one fight of marquez to pacman makes him the new hero of the world? wow. i think a close fight with pacquiao is the best thing ever happened in your life losers. lolololol.
lol bob said the best trainer in the world when his fighter just got schooled by JMM, Nacho is a better trainer he has more world champs then roach has and has made champs from the ground up, roach has only trained guys that are already established ,,,nacho is better, and robert garcia'a fighters have a better record against roches fighters his only lost to roachs fighter was margarito vs pac,, roach is known for training de la hoya,james tony and pac , and they were already fighters
They gave the decision to manny because if marquez got the win this would postpone a possible manny vs mayweather super fight for at least 2 years. theres a lot of money on that fight and the corrupt sport of boxing couldent let a super fight of manny and mayweather slip away to much money is on the line
@k9bandit4life thats what i said, i think they wanted to see how he would do with out it to get ready for mayweather and thats why they dont want to talk about mayweather right now they know he will loose without the juice, but Marquez is just a better boxer than Pac and is a smarter fighter
Crybaby Marquez always cries when he loses. He lost to Chris John of Indonesia and he claimed he was robbed. When he won the decision against Barrera, a lot of people thought Barrera was robbed. Did Marquez complain? Of course not. Manny clearly won the fight. The judges saw it and the Compubox numbers provided statistical proof. You got the decision against Barrera but you're not gonna win a decison against PAC if you land fewer punches. NUFF SAID.
You know what would've surprised me? If JMM learned nothing from the past two fights with Manny and the fight ended as some uninteresting waste of money. I'm glad that JMM made things tough for Manny and hell, I'm glad that Manny and Freddie Roach had this close cut reality check so that they know what it is their strengths are and what their weaknesses are. Respect to JMM and respect to Manny.
Cmon man, i don't wanna see another Marquez vs Pacquiao fight. Im so fed up of seeing this Mexican getting slaughtered in the ring. I wanna see Floyd gets slaughtered so, pls lets move on. I know Marquez is so grateful, cos Pacman fights him even though his career is already a trash, but i think its too much. Every time they fight each other, its always a win-win situation for Marquez. What would Pacman get if he wins again against Marquez?! "NOTHING" ofc.
@01blackwater: YOU SOUND LIKE A CORNY MOTHERFUCKA! Your Issue: Try to Finish High School and while you are back there, dont skip the Bi-Lingual Classes!! My only identity crisis is will Dumb Asses like you who try to appear ironic but end up running on Retard!
@zanpaktuh: Embarrassed Huh, that you dumb ass has been exposed! Worry about GETTING YOUR COUNTRY BACK!!!!!
The Mexican legacy in boxing speaks for itself, BITCH! Tired of Retarded Ass Pactards that know nothing about boxing trying to say shit. Though I have to admit there has been a considerably drop in STOCK for you and yours truly! Eat crow and bow DOWN to the Mexican GODS!!!!! And Moron learn how to spell Mexican, you dumb FUCK!!!!!!!!
@SirLarkin1 How about getting your identity back? A mexican with an american name? someone is having an identity crisis here. did someone touch you as a child? before you even talk of countries, fix your issues first dude.
@zanpaktuh: "I thought slavery is over, why there so mexicunts mowning our backyard every friday?"
DUDE, WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TO TRY TO RAG ON MEXICANS WHEN YOU DONT EVEN OWN YOUR FUCKING COUNTRY. THE CHINESE DO, you stupid fuck!! INSTEAD OF TRYING TO ATTACK ANOTHER PEOPLE, ORGANIZE AND TRY TO GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK. YOU MOTHERFUCKERS WORK LIKE DOGS FOR THE CHINESE BECAUSE YOU DONT OWN SHIT IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY!!! You have one boxer; Mexicans have a legacy of boxers!
se all the bawbags who keep saying marquez cheated with that foot shit, SOUTPAW VS ORTHODOX you are guaranteed to have foot contact, it came from both sides so stop being biggots, this is not football
it is true, but when how many times Manny's stepped on Marquez foot? You can't answer right, because none! How many times did Marquez the cheat stepped on Manny's foot? Only 21 times, just only 21 times, NOT A BIG DEAL! MORON!
@zanpaktuh Look mate, pacqauiao is my idol, and he is the fucking champ !
But i admire Marquez because he is one tough motherfucker, and i am a non biggot boxing fan unlike people like you! who go, oh fuck mayweather, fuck him and him and him just because hes fighting against your fav boxer, i like all boxers for what they do in the sport, apart from mayweather because he is a bitch, but watch this... /watch?v=gB6gEExQrqA .. southpaw vs orthodox, it always happens, im s/paw and it happens to me
so why when pacman dont dont do so good everybody get off his nuts and switch and say mayweather can be him..... dont be fake dumbass for whoever switched
@undertown122 I agree
ssek82 6 days ago
Pacquiao won.
undertown122 1 week ago
someone needs to turn off comments for this video
emilshere 2 weeks ago
guys!!!! pacquiao landed way more punches than marquez did....also power punch too!!!! give me one good fact why marquez should had won... people that say pac won the fight have a statement by saying pacquiao landed more punches than marquez did.... but people that say marquez won the fight dont have anything to back it up
haterz811 2 weeks ago
@haterz811 marquez really won the fight because he won more rounds
kingdaleclarke 9 hours ago
@kingdaleclarke pacquiao won the fight cause he is the one that won more round for the judges... how are u guys gonna complain if marquez points is not even close to pacquiao... if the point was different by 1 or 2 point then the argument will be serious... but the judges who graduate from college for that give a big different in points.. WIN BY PACQUIAO
haterz811 7 hours ago
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if pacquiao had knocked out marquez, mexicans will do the same as what argentinians did in Casimero vs Lazarte.
latinos are un-circumcised losers
buonzz2 2 weeks ago
pacquiao and marquez will fight again in november... pacquiao is fighting timothy bradley in june and marquez is fight devon alexander and i guess marquez gets a guranteed rematch with pacquiao if he beats alexander
codeman95291 4 weeks ago
"I think [Marquez] has Manny's number," said Freddie Roach.
OneHitWonderTarver 4 weeks ago
@kingSpork1 dude just shut the fuck up. Roach has parkinsons and he's the best trainer in the world. You don't have parkinsons and you're probably some fat kid eating oatmeal and posting on the internet, everybody like if you agree.
DanIrish409 4 weeks ago
@kingSpork1 you are a fuckhole
DanIrish409 1 month ago
@DanIrish409 Awww are you a "downy" too? dont worry son, you can polish my knob for a dollar a day if you cant find work, and after a month i will promote you to licking my backdoor for two dollars a day. that sounds like a good career move for you. I will get the application form ready, and dont forget to bring a crayon so you can sign up.
kingSpork1 4 weeks ago
@BotasNegras10 he has parkinson's you dick
DanIrish409 1 month ago
@DanIrish409 he's a "downy", are you blind or something?
kingSpork1 1 month ago
Manny aint gonna beat Money.....nuff said
kingSpork1 1 month ago
@kingSpork1 fuck u, yes he is.
k54u2 1 month ago
@k54u2 fuck u, no he's not.
kingSpork1 1 month ago
@kingSpork1 fuck u. u jus watch.
k54u2 1 month ago
@k54u2 fuck u. i will watch.
kingSpork1 1 month ago
@kingSpork1 alrite bet
k54u2 4 weeks ago
@k54u2 Ok. If Floyd wins you have to give me a blowjob, if Manny wins i will fuck you in the ass...... sound fair to you?
kingSpork1 4 weeks ago
@kingSpork1 if it's a draw, you can blow me while fucking him in the ass......sound fair to you?
kissed61 3 weeks ago
@kissed61 Sounds fair to me... maybe we all win in the end? ;D
kingSpork1 2 weeks ago
sae thing they said on the second fight with JMM he had cramps,,,lol manny got beat easy
LIKWITCREW1 1 month ago
Marquez was robbed! Simples
toffrashid 1 month ago
Why is he mumbling??? ...
BotasNegras10 1 month ago
@BotasNegras10 he has parkinson disease
Jose21443 1 month ago
This is how it is in boxing, you MUST beat the champion to win, there is no way around it. This fight was decided on technicalities rather then punching count.
OTTEN2007 1 month ago
The expression in freddie's face shows shame and also pacquio's they know they lost
They would have gain a lot of respect if they would have had the decency of saying
the truth marquez won period these guys have lost all the respect I had for them
I wanted pac to win but I wont be cheering any more for them this is a shame for boxing actually
bob arum told marquez get over it this is business that tells it all PERIOS PERIOD NO BOLONY HE LOST AND THE FIGHT WAS ROBBED PERIOD
casillas989 2 months ago
mayweather is on another level to pacquiao.
MrMrzmax 2 months ago
@MrMrzmax Maywather has his "Marquez" too... His name is Jose Luis Castillo.
jakerussel 1 month ago
@jakerussel Not even u most not of seen the second fight mayweather dominated castillon in the rematch
Jose21443 1 month ago
@Jose21443 I have seen that fight. clearly he did. but there will be a 4th fight for pacquiao vs. marquez we shall see what happens.
jakerussel 1 month ago
@jakerussel fucc man i dnt wanna see pacquiao marquez 4 i wanna see mayweather handle pacquiao for good fucc it
Jose21443 1 month ago
@Jose21443 yeah, that's the fight everybody wants to see. but They are already talking about Pacman Marquez 4 because of Floyd's jail time. But Floyd tweeted that his time behind bars could be rescheduled so there might be a chance.
jakerussel 1 month ago
The key to this whole interview is @1:21, (how would Manny handle Mayweather)? Bottom line is Manny Cant handle Mayweather.
zk92000 2 months ago
Thust323 2 months ago
@Thust323 Thats not what the score cards say . Marquez made Pacquiao bleed because of a headbutt
IcyMonkey100 2 months ago
@IcyMonkey100 Marquez also cut Pacquiao's lower lip. Watch the fight and see it for yourself with Buboy using the cotton to stop the bleeding. Far out ignorant Pacqiao fans
musood6630 2 months ago
try to compare pacquiao vs marquez : mayweather vs dela hoya.. .its bout to close fight !!
VanKrixsz101 2 months ago
freddie roach reminds me of johnny knoxville
Floatingshitsandwich 2 months ago
Freddie speaks the truth unlike the mayweathers, real gentle man, but doesnt mean who the better triner is, i just feel the Mayweathers got superior fighting skills
JABJABRIGHTCROSS 2 months ago
KEEP RUNNING FROM FLOYD. YOU PUNK MUTHERFUCKERS.
simon10177 2 months ago
@simon10177 pac and roach want mayweather too. but arum doesn't. simple. pac stood up and said he'll take on mayweather, take the tests and share the purse floyd wants. and mayweather is obviously no coward. he even made his own attempts at making the fight happen too. but no matter how close the two fighters get, the bottom line is that it's up to arum. mayweather is his own promoter but pac isn't. arum knows he can make more money off of pacquiao by avoiding mayweather.
brandeezy108 2 months ago
To all you idiotic marquez fans and pacquiao fans.
Aside from the compubox and herald ledderman scores which favors manny,
marquez DIDN'T DO ENOUGH to win.
He was backpeddaling, he wasn't agressive, HE'S THE CHALLENGER, he gave up during round 11 and 12th. When you up against the BEST P4P, you gotta beat him convincingly or knock him out which marquez fails to do.
Simple as that.
So cry all you want on both sides. Manny Won. Simple as that.
justcallmehowie 2 months ago
@justcallmehowie Well said
C0LDWiR3 2 months ago
@justcallmehowie u r right p4p title won him the fight, reality was manny lost a close fight if u scoreth cards with out seeing who each fighter was.. u contradict ur own point in a way.. he scored less so he loses man , if u r p4p and u given the victory in a platter...truth is the boxing federations dont want to mess up the manny FMjr fight.
JABJABRIGHTCROSS 2 months ago
"Pac diehards like *yourself*..." so if I hadn't said, it what tells you that I should then be included? "what most believe in the sport..." Ok you have little idea of what your even leading into now, do you. I'm not going to waste any more of my time. It's like reasoning with a child. To you personal opinion seems to subdue any need proof or evidence- anything just to keep yourself rambling. I took to this discussion thinking you had bogus facts to why JMM won, and you have openly confirmed it.
sk5williams 2 months ago
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@sk5williams YEAH PEOPLE !! MARQUEZ WON COZ WE BELIEVE THAT TO BE A CHAMPION , YOU SHUD BE BEHIND ON ALL COMPUBOX STATS...THAT TO BE A CHAMPION, YOUR FACE SHUD BE MORE BRUISED THAN YOUR OPPONENT ..THAT TO BE A CHAMPION, YOU SHUD BE LESS AGRESSIVE THAN YOUR OPPONENT AND BACKPEDAL YOUR WAY TO WIN THE BELT... KUDOS TO ALL OF YOU JMM BELIEVERS, WE HAVE BEEN ROBBED !!!! HAHAHAHAHA
gulonyatalaga 2 months ago
Let's have the card : REDEMPTION : Pacquiao vs Marquez IV, Linares vs Demarco , Amir Khan vs Lamont Peterson. Etc.
itbeonlikedonkeykong 2 months ago
i guessed you'd watched HBO luckily i watched a channel that was'nt contracted to Pac and the larger pay per views. Other channels like boxnation, Khan, Berto etc commented on what fight on what fight were they watching rut trhen HBO had a financial iterest in PAc winning + not ruining a Pac Floyd bout also compubox is done by a computer expert who designed the same for tennis, they're not experts, they dont take lessons, + officials they had Lara beating Williams, Sturm over Macklin LOL.
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
that's the difference i like both equally, i'm not favouring either while your a declared Pac fan. You obviously dont know what compubox is Compubox is 2 guys pressing a button when they think a boxer's scored, its been wildly innacurate many times were they've scored missed shots + not scored scoring shots, in the 1st 2 fights it had JMM landing more, in this 1 it was clear JMM outlanded with the cleaner heavier shots + Nacho was right to say he was winning, you hope not to get robbed.
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
He friggin lost, you can tell by Freddie's demeaner he knows Pac lost + Arum is the biggest Leech in Boxing between him + King the 2 of them have sucked this sport dry. Lying scumbags. Roach is saying the opposite to what was going on in the ring - jeez it makes you wanna throw up.
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@1969JohnnyM Would you care to explain how Manny lost?
And please don't say 'because he (Pacquiao) "looked" like he lost before the decision', or 'the crowd "knew" Marquez won...' these are factors judges do not take into account when they are scoring...
The fight was undeniably close, but if you ask me, people get way too caught up in the action.
Respect to both Marquez and Pacquiao.
sk5williams 2 months ago
@sk5williams That's a very easy answer, for a starter i'm impartial to both fighters, i hav'nt got Pac, JMM or Freddie Roach vids, (3) JMM ring generalship in the fight was far better, forget compubox no real fan or boxer pays heed to it, do you know what it is ? (4) JMM landed the cleaner, heavier punches, Pac threw a lot but mostly hit air, arms + gloves. Most fighters + fans who are neutral + not part of Top Rank, HBO or team Pac had it as a fairly clear JMM win.
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@1969JohnnyM HBO had it as a clear JMM win...? Did you see Lederman's card? But I assume your going to tell all the obvious flaws in Lederman's case too, right... No, I didn't say compubox was a perfect system, but why should it be over looked? Just two "guys"? Do you think they get any old bum off the street to do the job? I think your overlooking the professionalism taken into account... In fact I think it's ignorant for the average viewer to put themselves higher than any official there.
sk5williams 2 months ago
@sk5williams The other channels who i might add are'nt financially tied into Pac + a potential Pac Floyd pay per views all disagreed with HBO etc. Khan, Berto etc even commented "what fight is HBO presenters watching, HBO even struggled to show any sequence that made PAC look good. Compubox is done by some nerds, no boxing knowledge needed its done by guys who originally did the same for tennis + officials you are joking, the same officials who has Williams beating Lara etc
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@sk5williams Lederman's card has been off the judges scores many times + again any counting system with a human factor has a chance of error, missed shots etc, being influenced by the crowd, to outright corruption. The ref's are supposed professionals but they still badly fuck up sometimes ie ref Russell Mora who let Agbeko be lowblowed over 20 times with no pts taken away, scored 2 wrong KD's + was biased to Mares hence IBF rematch cos of outcry + yeah that's real professionalism.
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@1969JohnnyM I didn't watch the HBO PPV, through research I found the Lederman card. Lederman rarely gets it wrong. Every fight I've seen the Lederman card has been 99% spot on. You do know he is a retired boxing judge himself? Other than that I find all your other arguements poorly supported or irrelevent. Something about nerds and fucking up... In summary, if your basing this on "human factor" or "fucking up", that's why we had a trilogy. And after 3 fights they STILL had Marquez the loser...
sk5williams 2 months ago
@sk5williams Your a fool if you think judges are so infallible, try watching Sven Ottke fights and you'll see how professional these judges are. Lederman has been off loads of times + so are judges. I take it you had Williams beating Lara or Sturm against Macklin. You keep worshipping Pac + i'' keep watching boxing. Cant believe the shit your coming out with, with the robberies that have occured in boxing, they had 3 fights because so many boxers, fans etc thought JMM won.
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@1969JohnnyM Heres the thing dude Pac is the Champion Jmm is the challenger.. in order to win the fight Jmm must be the aggressor or win it convincingly. In my opinion Jmm outsmart Pac teach Pac a boxing lesson and Jmm landed more clear shot BUT he is not aggressive and he did not make hes win convincing.. even thou Jmm landed clearer shot Pac is the aggressor and Pac landed more shot even thou its not very clear but the fact is it landed! so the judges have to do its job.. for me thou Jmm win.
iLoveNaughtyGirls01 2 months ago
@iLoveNaughtyGirls01 So walking in straight lines, not cutting the ring off, hitting mostly air, arms + gloves, + getting your face used as a speedball is a winning formula - the sport is called boxing not brawling. Benitez, Martinez, Mayweather, Ray Leonard, Toney, Whitaker all the way back to Tunney, Willie Pep + Muhammed Ali were counterpunchers, also in the first 2 fights it was JMM who was the champ, Pac fans did'nt mind then that Pac had'nt ripped it away.
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@iLoveNaughtyGirls01 I've heard everything from JMM stood on Pac's feet which they actually both did + anyway thats common between a southpaw + orthodox boxer to compubox which is proven unreliable it is'nt even a computer. I've also heard that the judges are professional's etc which really makes me laugh - these same judges had Williams beating Lara, Sturm over Macklin, Helenius over Chisora let alone half a dozen Sven Ottke bouts were the judges robbed his opponents.
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@iLoveNaughtyGirls01 compubox is 2 guys pressing buttons when they think they've seen a scoring blow, like anything with a human input it can fail. It has been shown to be very innacurate, it must also be remembered HBO etc has a large financial incentive to have Pac win as he + Floyd bring in the big PPV's.It must also be noted that it was JMM who was the Champ in the 1st two bouts + Pac fans was the challenger but it seems the rules are different when your the cash cow.
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@1969JohnnyM When did I say the judges are infallible? Or there's been no robberies? The great thing about Lederman is that he actually explains, from a judges view, why he thought the round went to that person. There are many things judges pick up that average viewers don't. This isn't amateur boxing. Give me a fight where Lederman was WAY off the official decision. Not by one judge- the "overall" decision. So you believe Marquez was robbed not 1, not 2, but 3 times? Your as bad as Marquez lol
sk5williams 2 months ago
@sk5williams Yeah like Lederman giving rd 12 in their 2nd bout to Pac despite it being the clearest JMM rd even all the judges, the whole rest of the HBO gave it to JMM and even mention that Lederman's card goes against EVERYONE else + that's just 1 clear rd. even your beloved compubox had JMM landing 19 to every 15 Pac blows in the 2nd fight + the 3rd was a clearer JMM bout, also zero KD's. Stop sucking Pac's dick + realise boxing has always been about $ + Pac after Floyd brings
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@1969JohnnyM Hold on, so the only example of a Lederman card failing is Pac-JMM 3? I thought you said Lederman has had in wrong "many times"? Case closed, another point for me. Next, "boxing reviews" etc.- many reviews had it for JMM, however, people have replayed the fight and look beyond the "action itself". JMM has fought the same fight for the whole trilogy. In the 3rd he was the same old JMM. HBO? HBO is a television broadcasting/programming network you eccentric, it doesn't own boxing.
sk5williams 2 months ago
@sk5williams No but it is dependent on PPV's you fuckin idiot hence criticsm of channels that do PPV's + as for fighting the same are you on about Pac's great technique of going in straight lines, only forward + throwing lots of punches whether they land or not, remember i like both boxers whilst you hero worship just 1 in fact it sounds like you want to suck Pac's cock with your the ref's are pro's, the judges are pro's -no there not they're no more experienced than an avid fan or ex boxer.
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@sk5williams i boxed a little amateur for the immaculata boxing club, i have cousins one who controversially missed out on the olympic team + is now a well known trainer, another who was a pro etc, most of my family have boxed and i've been to the castle street gym loads when i was younger, i'm not some armchair prick who falls for hype like yourself. Practically everyone forget fight 1 + 2 thought JMM won, i'm sorry you believe your hero lederman + have Pac on a pedestal i just like all boxers
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@1969JohnnyM "dependent on PPV's"... again your arguments are either poorly supported or are just completely irrelevent. I don't know how you link subjects like this with your ideas of "boxing conspiracies". You sound like a very insecure person. "straight lines, only forward"... well it got the job done 2 times prior, what did you expect for the 3rd if JMM fought exactly the same? "i boxed a little"- and for that, your rep reigns beyond that of any boxing judge, ref, or official? Keep dreaming.
sk5williams 2 months ago
@sk5williams maybe your just an arsehole who has pac on a pedestal and would think he'd won if you were told so, most fans + people within boxing think JMM got jogged in the 3rd bout, it's not up to debate, only a few Pac fans, think so + the only ones within the sport who think different are people with a financial interest in Pac. Fuck knows what conspiracy theories your on about, sounds like your a dreamer who probabluy wets the bed after dreaming about your hero Pac, nearly
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@sk5williams all fans, boxing commentaters, journalists + other boxers etc thought JMM won, the fact your saying a brawler is superior to a counter puncher is laughable when you consider most of the ATG's were counter punchers ie Ali, Pep, Leonard, Mayweather, Whitaker etc etc. Stick to watching women's netball as you know shit about boxing. The uproar is why they're doing a 4th bout you fuckin retard. I wont bother engaging anymore as its clear your in love with pac not the sport
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@1969JohnnyM "all fans"... etc. lol what rock are you living under? None of your points are attestable... You have backed not one your arguments up. All you've accomplished was statements from either your own opinion, manifestations out of thin air, or through verbal attacks. You sir have proven my point to why so many people have been deluded in the outcome of Pacquiao-Marquez 3. And no, Pac isn't my only hero. I box southpaw myself, so I follow many southpaw boxers- Martinez, Wright, Hagler...
sk5williams 2 months ago
@sk5williams Whilst Hagler was a southpaw, he often fought orthodox also as he did a lot in the Leonard fight which i gave to Hagler as he landed the clean hurtful punches, Martinez although not orthodox like JMM is also a counterpuncher + is nothing like Pac as Pac is more a great fighter than boxer. Pac fans have also come out with rubbish about JMM standing on his feet, ANYONE who has boxed or knows anything about boxing knows this happens when you get a leftie + a rightie + both
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@sk5williams were guilty of it. It seldom happens on purpose as you'd have to glance down as both men's feet are moving you would likely end up KTFO + if you hav'nt noticed there are more with my view on who won the fight with out of thin air Khan, Donaire, Jones jnr, Manny Steward + on + on + on. Only you self declarded Pac fans + the money men of boxing thought he won. Opinion is so against the result that there is gonna be a 4th fight even your own Canadian channels such as CBC
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@sk5williams Sports had all the the reputable boxing journalists having it at best a draw but most had it a clear JMM win, ESPN, Yahoo, AP, Pac's biographer all 114-114 the rest maxboxing, LA Times 115-113, NY daily news 116-112, Boston Herald 117-111, Reuters 116-112, BBC, SKY, Boxnation TV 117-111, Donaire, Khan, Stewart, Jones jnr etc all had it a clear JMM win. Many mentioned including Canada(CBC Sports)etc Lederman's ridiculous card of Pac being 4rds up but then you love him 2
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@1969JohnnyM Thank you, so it was a bit of an exaggeration to so that "all" boxing reviews had it for JMM. The more-ridiculous would have to be Yahoo, who scored it 11 rounds to 1 JMM's way. Khan, like others, has said that he needs to watch the replay, which I encourage everybody to do. Yes, I am aware of the ways of Hagler because I'm a right-handed southpaw myself. I also gave it to Hagler because, much like JMM, Leonard's flurries (flashy as they were) seemed partially to hit shoulders etc.
sk5williams 2 months ago
@sk5williams regardless most reputable boxing press/websites had it for JMM apart from idiots like you who've used excuses like JMM stood on Pac's feet etc regardless JMM at 38yrs old, moving up 2 wt divisions cos PAc refused to meet in the middle, Pac's choice of gloves + size of ring + most neutrals had a Marquez win.
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@1969JohnnyM And "again"... when did I remotely bring up about about the foot stomping? When did I say boxing wasn't a business, or hadn't any corruption? "Finding me on Youtube", the referee... what did the ref do to throw the fight in Pacquiao's favor anyways? I mean if your claims were the least bit relevent, maybe I'd actually take you seriously.
sk5williams 2 months ago
@sk5williams When did i say you personally said he commited foot stomping i said Pac diehards like yourself hasve used it as an excuse + wow what do you have on your home page multiple vids on that very subject. To be honest i find it hard t6o take you seriously as your opinions go against what most believe in the sport. The decision was so bad that instead of team Pac doing they're usual + trying to let mother time diminish JMM's superior skills Arum's having to do a quick rematch.
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@sk5williams also when did i say the ref threw this particular fight. Is English your first language ? You inferred that the judges are professionals, Lederman is basically infallible etc when that's complete tosh as scoring a fight is subjective to individual thinking, saying that certain rules apply ie ring general ship etc + as much as you go on about the judges + Lederman who had Pac 4rds up which is fuckin laughable. I said officials fuck up + the mighty dollar is often the
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@sk5williams Lederman had the laughable score of Pac 4rds ahead which even his fellow presenters thought was way off. You keep ignoring everyone involved in boxing who thought JMM won. By the way i only boxed at schoolboy level but my family is involved in Irish boxing still, i used to go to Eastwoods gym a lot. Were can i
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@sk5williams find you on U tube as you sound like you still hav'nt learnt the ability to think for yourself. I LOVE boxing but anyone with a brain knows its a business first, boxing as much as i love it, it is the most corrupt sport going, try reading the sweet science by A J Liebling all about corruption, its endemic when
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@sk5williams there's so much $'s, boxing orgs taking kickbacks for ratings, boxerscheating(Margarito,Resto etc doping Toney, Jones jnr) referees(Laurence Cole which also involved your sainted HBO etc), trainers (panama Lewis etc) + judges as Lou di Bella etc said who trains + reviews them, only large outcry gets a review +
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@1969JohnnyM Check out Ottke Reid + tell me if you think thats a honest job. Roger Tillerman for his corrupt bullshit work has been rewarded with being a judge. This guy is the worst ref ever + he's now doing the same as a judge, zero training to be a judge, my granny would do a better job. check the 1st few rds of Ottke Reid
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@sk5williams you only have to watch Roger Tillerman refereeing Ottke vs Reid to see this shit does happen, fans know Tillerman is a corrupt. in Europe he's known for helping German or home boxer even though he's a Belgian. For his corrupt, biased work he's been rewarded with becoming a judge, he judges in N America too, check
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@sk5williams in the most $'s, HBO went against every international boxing reviews apart from Asia + even some Philippino press said JMM won as did Nonito Donaire, Amir Khan, Roy Jones, Manny Steward, SR leonard etc. HBO has a financial interest in Pac winning, HBO is skint + Pac brings in the idiot casual fans + their PPV cash who know shit about boxing + confuse it with brawling/fighting etc such as yourself. Take Pac of his pedestal + realize he's great but JMM has his number.
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@sk5williams JMM landed cleaner, heavier blows, he landed combo's, all Pac did was follow him around the ring, he did'nt cut it off + JMM picked him off repeatedly with clean shots + combo's, beautiful counter punching + great ring generalship. Pac looked what he is, a brawler with power + a high work rate which is great if someones standing there to be hit, Marquez was'nt. Pac's great but JMM just shows how 1 dimensional Pac is. Sorry Pac fans _ its just how most saw it.
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
@1969JohnnyM I'm a Pac fan, and like I said- it was a close fight no doubt. That's why I take my hat off to Marquez. All what you said was true, but the fact is it's not how you start a fight, it's how you finish. Firstly compubox shows Pacquiao landing the more of the heavier shots, but let me guess- that was "rigged" too, right? Secondly, Nacho did what all trainers SHOULDN'T do with there fighter: tell him he was winning the fight! Marquez slowed down in the last 2, 3 rounds...
sk5williams 2 months ago
@sk5williams That's the difference i like both while your a declared Pac fan. Compubox is 2 guys pressing a button when THEY THINK a punch has scored, they miss many that score + they score many that miss it's been proven innacurate many times. Anything with a human factor has an ability to get it wrong, in the previous 2 bouts it had JMM outlanding Pac + this 1 was JMM's clearest win with no KD's to make up for JMM's better boxing ability, also JMM landed the heavier cleaner shots.
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
Funny you mention Karate my soon to be 14yr old does Karate + some working out at a boxing club also, but personally i dont know much about it so dont know your really on about. I also find it funny as Japanese World Champs like the great boxer's Toshiaki Nishioka, Takashi Uchiyama + fellow great Philippino Nonito Donaire + Pac's friend + teammate + fellow World Champ Amir Khan had it as a clear JM Marquez win also, are they as you put it racist also because they're not deluding themselves.
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
How the hell is racist to say the judges let Pac win as he's a bigger moneymaker than JMM, i was only saying what boxing fans already know. I LOVEboxing, I'm a fan of boxing 1st over any hero worshiping, i also credit anyone who gets in the ring but it is fairly noticable that only hardcore Pac fans thought he won, but you guys would convince yourself he'd won if he KTFO. JMM won this bout + 99.9% of all neutral fans think that way. I feel sorry for those that wont admit the truth to themselves.
1969JohnnyM 2 months ago
i think pacman need to start drinking his own urine like marquez, lols
whocaresif13 2 months ago
Now Freddie think mayweather will give pacquiao problems . hang on .. lets make this sound sense ... didnt Freddie say mayweather is the easiest fight ? lol HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHNAHA MARQUEZ WHOOPED YOU GUYS 3 TIMES NOW LOL HISTORY !!!!
TheRey4you 3 months ago
1.32 - 2.10 very significant!
awacs52 3 months ago
i havent heard much from the pactards here lately, but i guess they found out PACQUIAO CANT FIGHT WITH OUT HIS DRUGS,The haters that think pacquiao can beat Floyd dont know shit or havent seen Mayweather fight for long. they just started watching boxing n pac man is their idol, Floyd retired cause no one could beat him and now whats to fight the best. bob arum know the truth that why he dont want risk it. pactards need to go back and watch floyds old fights.makes his opponents think they can win
MexicanMayweatherFan 3 months ago
GAH!!!!!!!!!!!! I JUST WANT TO TELL FREDDIE TO USE NEGATIVE REINFORCEMENT AND TELL MANNY HE'S THE P4P WHAT HE DOING GETTING OUTBOXED A 38 YEAR OLD CMON. I know manny can fight btr than tht u gotta bring the best in his wtf bring his will out if you to his focus. good god sumtimes even a champion needs a good swift kick in the ass and work for real.
crazyben108 3 months ago
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pacman is a victim of expectation, his failure to knock marquez out gives d perception of his defeat,but d truth is he landed more shots than marquez & d judges got d better angle to see that,. i agree w/ wt emanuel steward says that marquez did not do enough to steal d crown..& wow somebody hit JMM hard that made his face looks like a crippled butt & gave him a gift to look like chinese in that day..lol
kayitangan 3 months ago
Haha and he said Marquez wouldn't last 6 rounds
Marquez won the fight and everyone knows
emeliog94 3 months ago
After this performance I have to admit Mayweather will put an end Manny.
bukibum 3 months ago
@bukibum is dt ur basis of mayweather beating pacman? ok lets use ur logic!, how bwt mayweather beat delahoya in controversial decission & manny tko delahoya in 8 rnd, mayweather tko hatton in round 10 while pacman murdered hatton in rnd 2..wt can u say abwt that?
kayitangan 3 months ago
@bukibum AND HOW IS THAT HAPPENIN HOMEBOY??
corgi926 3 months ago
@corgi926 I guess for me its about styles and what Marquez has managed to do 3 times now shows how Manny struggles with counter punchers, something that we all know Mayweather is extremely good at, probably the greatest ever counter puncher there is. Then there is Mayweathers defensive skills that I think a second to none.
And I shouldnt have saidMayweather would end Manny, he isnt the pound for pound champ for nothing....it will be a good battle nonetheless....
bukibum 3 months ago
JMM needs to learn how to come forward!
TerrisJ3 3 months ago 2
haha you are a gak. Manny scored more shots than JMM so catch yourself on. I do love the sport you twat and when manny retires am not sure i would pay for pay-per-view, manny is boxing. You have the sexual issue aswell you take this so seroius i am starting to think u actually have JMM's Cock in your mouth.
Sweetpea451 3 months ago
aoverall manny is a more complete boxer....and i am mexican
TzzX78 3 months ago
Freddie is a legend supr job with the pacman. Floyd ya pair of knickers get it on or retire stop fighting no bodies . Bet ye this comment annoys all yous hahah love it. Pacman going to destroy mayweather if it happens
Sweetpea451 3 months ago
@Sweetpea451 Pac lost, learn to love boxing rather than one individual. I respect both, ones a great fighter the other is a great boxer. On this occasion even moving up 2 whole weight divisions + aged 38 + Pac having choice of ring size, weight of gloves JMM put up a masterful performance. If you have a sport called Pac lover fair enough but for most of us the sport is boxing + we're supposed to be impartial, its the judges etc who are effected by who's the moneymaker not the true BOXING fan.
1969JohnnyM 3 months ago
@Sweetpea451 Another person who has Pac's cock in his mouth, love the sport and not 1 individual, I like Pac and JMM, but even after JMM to make the bout happen is forced to move up 2 divisions to welter when team Pac says Pac is a natural jnr welter, being 38yrs old, Pac choosing small gloves + a small ring JMM boxed Pac's head off, just grow a pair + accept it, Pac lost this 1 apart from diehard Pac fans, most of the neutrals thought JMM won it. The judges just knew who the cash cow was.
1969JohnnyM 3 months ago
@1969JohnnyM DID MARQUEZ DOMINATE PAC?WHO WAS THE CHAMP.WHO WAS COMMING FORWARD AND TAKE THE RISK OF HIT AND GET HIT WHOS COMING FORWARD,PAC LANDED THE MOST PUCHES,JJM HAD THE CLEARER SHOT AND DID BETTER THAN MOST EXPECT FROM JMM,PAC CLEARLY WON THE FIGHT NOT ITS JUST NOT THE BRUTAL K0 WE ALL EXPECT,MARQUEZ DIDNT FIGHT LIKE A CHAMP OR A WARRIOR HE WAS TOO CAUTIOS,HOMEBOY THERES NO WAY MARQUEZ WON THE FIGHT,ONLY MEXICANS OR FLOMOS FANS THINK HE WON,I AINT A RACIST!!!RIP JACK HERRER!
corgi926 3 months ago
@corgi926 Well i'm neither a Mexican or a Philipino, i like both boxers, i also like Floyd whilst you obviously have a Philippino slant seeing as you've put your from Cebu City. I am guilty of being Irish, neutral in my opinion on this fight, i did do a little amateur boxing around 30yrs ago + i am a massive boxing fan. Unfortunately we get fans of Pac, Floyd not fans of boxing, the Mexicans on the whole are pretty fair which i put down to them having lots more Champs than say the Philippines
1969JohnnyM 3 months ago
@corgi926 so whilst your ilk hero worship Pac + come out with crap to back up their delusions such as the useless compubox, not understanding the dynamics of southpaw vs orthodox. His own corner had him losing, his mate Khan had him losing big as did Donaire + nearly every boxer, website, fan etc, only diehard Pac fans thought he won, even some Philippino sports press thought Pac lost + that he was gifted a win.Pac brings in lots of thick, deluded fans who spend lots + are easily duped, with
1969JohnnyM 3 months ago
@corgi926 the kind of mentality that some Pac fans have where they worship Pac the man + not the sport of boxing they could convince themselves that Pac won even if he was KTFO. If crooked judges said Pac had won even as he lay there unconcious we would have people like you happy as a pig in shit not the least put out that the joke is on you as they empty your pockets, they know only fools like you would suck it up whilst most of the world would see thru it + feel angry.
1969JohnnyM 3 months ago
its noticable that pretty much every boxer, trainer, critic + most of planet earth etc thought Marquez won, the only people who gave it to Pac are diehard Pac fans or patriotically induced Philippino's. For God's sake his own corner thought he was losing, his team mate + friend + fellow world champion Amir Khan thought Marquez won. The excuses like JMM stood on his feet etc + not understanding what a counterpuncher is, is laughable. Pac is great but this was a defeat in most folks eyes.
1969JohnnyM 3 months ago
@1969JohnnyM we Japanese trusted Manny Pacquiao
あなたの迷惑を知っている you have no trust to manny
he is great boxer too
hirokazuquzawa 3 months ago
@hirokazuquzawa Yes he's a great fighter, but you worship the guy whilst i just love boxing. I like both boxers but in this bout JMM won, most of the world thought he won, his own team + Manny himself thought he'd lost, look what his corner were saying, look at the body language. His friend, teammate + fellow champ Amir Khan thought he'd lost + i know not all Asian's are deluding themselves as fellow Philippino world champ Nonito Donaire thought he'd lost as did Japan's Ao, Shimoda,Nishioka etc
1969JohnnyM 3 months ago
@hirokazuquzawa Pac is a great boxer but this is a sport not hero worshipping, Pac is'nt a pop group with teenage fans, i dont know your age but i'd guess your pretty young when your scoring a bout on personality + not on the actual performance. You do realize after the 1st draw Pac refused to fight JMM for 4yrs thinking age would catch JMM up, then a 2nd debatable bout + again JMM is ducked for another 3yrs, why do you think he does that, the 1st two fights were close the 3rd was a JMM win.
1969JohnnyM 3 months ago
@1969JohnnyM if you know boxing you don't have to comment like that to me you are so racist, We asians doesn't deserve it Go to see our Karate fight Us if you can
hirokazuquzawa 3 months ago
Manny would get his ass whipped by Mayweather. Stop with all of the foolish talk now please.
LeeroyGinkenz 3 months ago
TO ALL MEXICANS....PLS IF U THINK THAT JMM WAS ROBBED WTF U GUYS WAITING FOR ? GO TO ALL MEXICAN POLICE STATIONS ASAP BITCHES. JUST MAKE A LOT OF TACOS OR ELSE WE WILL SEND U GUYS BACK TO MEXIPUTO.
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RAyMNV 3 months ago
This decision clearly tells the traditional way of judging where judges mark the fight from one dimentional view must end. They must have at least 10 JUDGES with tv screens from all views.
hkbk2011 3 months ago
pacquiao landed more punches than marquez 178 to 135. very wise decision by the judges to give the fight to the aggressor/punches landed.
f4icbr600 3 months ago
pacquiao got hit only when he was off balance by the old step on foot trick, im glad manny won, lost lots of respect for Marquez
MrJimdwheeler 3 months ago
@MrJimdwheeler There´s a complete video where you can see that manny started the old step on foot trick a couple of times in the first round, then Marquez responded him with the same...
warnestduo217 3 months ago
cramps are call body punches that why he spit his protector so he can some fresh air and a time out !!!
joker7from206 3 months ago
marquez is the best and you know this meeeeen
pincepepe 3 months ago
Its funny how pac never has any kind of problems when he wins, but as soon as he gets his ass kicked(morales, 3 times vs marquez) all of a sudden he gets cramps, his shoes are tight, he has pms, and other ridiculous stuff. Face the fact that marquez has your number and will always REALLY beat pac.
almaperro 3 months ago
99% of the world saw this as a Marquez win so if your the 1%, your a Pac lover fan, a patriotically deluded Philippino,you work for HBO or your part of team Pac. Pac + his whole team thought he'd lost til the crooked money maker decision came in, even his team mate, friend + fellow world champion Amir Khan thought he'd lost badly + like Pac then lied that he'd won it after the crazy decision. Marquez would have needed to KO pac to draw this fight. I love boxing but hate the corruption.
1969JohnnyM 3 months ago
@1969JohnnyM 100 % people in all walks believe pacquiao won only mexiicans can't accept the facts..poor marquez always crying of not making it. he's coward backpedalling and using dirty tricks..poor marquez better plant cassava in mexico.
Rubberman04 3 months ago
But he DID'NT get hit by a big punch did he, only die hard deluded Pac fans and mostly Philippino fans and HBO who are riding the Pac money train. This is killing boxing, Arum and King have killed boxing and are bleeding it to death, i struggle to justify boxing to my son these days with money orientated tv, promoters and judges and the corrupt spaggetti organisations. Marquez clearly won and the ridiculous arguements his fans try to justify this joke of a decision are as bad as the above.
1969JohnnyM 3 months ago
I think marquez is lucky bcoz he was not hit by a big punch, but still Manny is the strong puncher bcoz he busted the face of Marquez.. I watched the fight 3 times and no doubt Manny won this fight the Judges are right!!
If there will be a 4th fight for sure JMM is at risk he will fall!!!
microcloud 3 months ago
I think marquez is lucky bcoz he was not hit by a big punch, but still Manny is the strong puncher bcoz he busted the face of Marquez.. I watched the fight 3 times and no doubt Manny won this fight the Judges are right!!
microcloud 3 months ago
i had the fight 3 rounds manny 3 rounds tied and 6 marquez
enri74cv 3 months ago
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Pacman win this fight if you watch HBO copy. There is scorecard. it the right angle Pacquiao landed clear punch. You can see face of marquez his eyes is swelling. compare to pacquaio. for me Round 1,3,4,6,8,9,10,12 pacman win. Watch the HBO video.
janimea 3 months ago
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Marquez is a very good liar. How come he said pacquiao never counter punch him. Look at the replay he eat pacman punch. His face is swelling. Got by right hook and straight punch.
janimea 3 months ago
JUAN WON FILIPINOS ARE DIRT! END OF DISCUSSION!
wuspopNmane 3 months ago
@wuspopNmane retard.
dolflow 3 months ago
Jmm is a bum who doesnt throw enough punches to win a decision...Manny clearly won all 3 fights to me...idk wat ppl are watching wen jmm nd manny fight. Sure their both evenly matched but pac takes the cake against juan...but neither of the two can fuk wit Floyd...one of the two could tell yu that lol. JUAN said Floyd is a better boxer than Manny...but we all know that
deemakk86 3 months ago
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marquez had a close fight with pacquiao. does this one fight of marquez to pacman makes him the new hero of the world? wow. i think a close fight with pacquiao is the best thing ever happened in your life losers. lolololol.
jowellnoodellbox 3 months ago
Phillipinos pendejos no saven nada de box they need to get there head out of pacquiaos ass
3lf1ako 3 months ago
i scored the last round for marquez. pacquiao still won 115-113 imo
thepacquiaovsmosley 3 months ago
lol bob said the best trainer in the world when his fighter just got schooled by JMM, Nacho is a better trainer he has more world champs then roach has and has made champs from the ground up, roach has only trained guys that are already established ,,,nacho is better, and robert garcia'a fighters have a better record against roches fighters his only lost to roachs fighter was margarito vs pac,, roach is known for training de la hoya,james tony and pac , and they were already fighters
LIKWITCREW1 3 months ago
They gave the decision to manny because if marquez got the win this would postpone a possible manny vs mayweather super fight for at least 2 years. theres a lot of money on that fight and the corrupt sport of boxing couldent let a super fight of manny and mayweather slip away to much money is on the line
GueroLoko111 3 months ago
I think Freddie actually took Manny off the juice for this fight!
k9bandit4life 3 months ago
@k9bandit4life thats what i said, i think they wanted to see how he would do with out it to get ready for mayweather and thats why they dont want to talk about mayweather right now they know he will loose without the juice, but Marquez is just a better boxer than Pac and is a smarter fighter
LIKWITCREW1 3 months ago
This just goes 2 show that all Manny's opponents need a KO 2 win, it's impossible 2 win a decision against Manny!
k9bandit4life 3 months ago
Crybaby Marquez always cries when he loses. He lost to Chris John of Indonesia and he claimed he was robbed. When he won the decision against Barrera, a lot of people thought Barrera was robbed. Did Marquez complain? Of course not. Manny clearly won the fight. The judges saw it and the Compubox numbers provided statistical proof. You got the decision against Barrera but you're not gonna win a decison against PAC if you land fewer punches. NUFF SAID.
mavmach3 3 months ago 4
You know what would've surprised me? If JMM learned nothing from the past two fights with Manny and the fight ended as some uninteresting waste of money. I'm glad that JMM made things tough for Manny and hell, I'm glad that Manny and Freddie Roach had this close cut reality check so that they know what it is their strengths are and what their weaknesses are. Respect to JMM and respect to Manny.
SaintYuurei 3 months ago 7
Cmon man, i don't wanna see another Marquez vs Pacquiao fight. Im so fed up of seeing this Mexican getting slaughtered in the ring. I wanna see Floyd gets slaughtered so, pls lets move on. I know Marquez is so grateful, cos Pacman fights him even though his career is already a trash, but i think its too much. Every time they fight each other, its always a win-win situation for Marquez. What would Pacman get if he wins again against Marquez?! "NOTHING" ofc.
cuwer15 3 months ago
@01blackwater: YOU SOUND LIKE A CORNY MOTHERFUCKA! Your Issue: Try to Finish High School and while you are back there, dont skip the Bi-Lingual Classes!! My only identity crisis is will Dumb Asses like you who try to appear ironic but end up running on Retard!
SirLarkin1 3 months ago
@SirLarkin1 I see, someone really did touch you, you need help, its not too late.
01blackwater 3 months ago
@SirLarkin1 BTW, russel larkin what kind of name is that, then pretending to be someone else, you have serious issues dude....
01blackwater 3 months ago
@zanpaktuh: Embarrassed Huh, that you dumb ass has been exposed! Worry about GETTING YOUR COUNTRY BACK!!!!!
The Mexican legacy in boxing speaks for itself, BITCH! Tired of Retarded Ass Pactards that know nothing about boxing trying to say shit. Though I have to admit there has been a considerably drop in STOCK for you and yours truly! Eat crow and bow DOWN to the Mexican GODS!!!!! And Moron learn how to spell Mexican, you dumb FUCK!!!!!!!!
SirLarkin1 3 months ago
@SirLarkin1 How about getting your identity back? A mexican with an american name? someone is having an identity crisis here. did someone touch you as a child? before you even talk of countries, fix your issues first dude.
01blackwater 3 months ago
@zanpaktuh: "I thought slavery is over, why there so mexicunts mowning our backyard every friday?"
DUDE, WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TO TRY TO RAG ON MEXICANS WHEN YOU DONT EVEN OWN YOUR FUCKING COUNTRY. THE CHINESE DO, you stupid fuck!! INSTEAD OF TRYING TO ATTACK ANOTHER PEOPLE, ORGANIZE AND TRY TO GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK. YOU MOTHERFUCKERS WORK LIKE DOGS FOR THE CHINESE BECAUSE YOU DONT OWN SHIT IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY!!! You have one boxer; Mexicans have a legacy of boxers!
Bow down bitch!
SirLarkin1 3 months ago
@SirLarkin1
Talk to me once you fix your caps lock. MORON!
zanpaktuh 3 months ago
se all the bawbags who keep saying marquez cheated with that foot shit, SOUTPAW VS ORTHODOX you are guaranteed to have foot contact, it came from both sides so stop being biggots, this is not football
JaguarPawww 3 months ago
@JaguarPawww
it is true, but when how many times Manny's stepped on Marquez foot? You can't answer right, because none! How many times did Marquez the cheat stepped on Manny's foot? Only 21 times, just only 21 times, NOT A BIG DEAL! MORON!
zanpaktuh 3 months ago
@zanpaktuh Look mate, pacqauiao is my idol, and he is the fucking champ !
But i admire Marquez because he is one tough motherfucker, and i am a non biggot boxing fan unlike people like you! who go, oh fuck mayweather, fuck him and him and him just because hes fighting against your fav boxer, i like all boxers for what they do in the sport, apart from mayweather because he is a bitch, but watch this... /watch?v=gB6gEExQrqA .. southpaw vs orthodox, it always happens, im s/paw and it happens to me
JaguarPawww 3 months ago
talo si pacquiao mga kapatid.
andrew1470 3 months ago
just for the record im a mayweather fan
501ARKLR 3 months ago
so why when pacman dont dont do so good everybody get off his nuts and switch and say mayweather can be him..... dont be fake dumbass for whoever switched
501ARKLR 3 months ago