I choose the tank with the better trained crew with the better combat, logistic, and communication support ya damn otaku. Join the military and you won't be needing to know if the equipment is good or not.
Perhaps XK2 is less refined in some points than Type 10 in engine noise and shock absorption but real question is whether it's effective where it counts. I give credit to the Japanese in attention to details, but I've noticed them spending their efforts on areas that's not all that practical. Perhaps it's like comparing M16 and AK47. We all know M16 is more refined gun, but AK is much more powerful, effective and practical. Hence it's the most popular gun in the world.
1) The gun of K2 is the L55, Type 10 uses the L44. The difference in power is about 15% in favor of K2. L44 was announced as outdated by Rheinmetall over 20 years ago.
2) K2 features additional protection, ERA/NERA and 2 APS.
3) K2 is larger in the direct sense. Type 10 is closer to the Russian tank designs (small, compact and light).
4) Type 10 was designed to be as light as possible, thus featuring lightweight composite armor. How it does against munitions is yet yo be seen.
And btw, how much the tank sways after the shot is completely and utterly irrelevant. Even how much it moves during the shot should be irrelevant too if the stabilization system does what its supposed to do. A better suspension gives you a smoother ride, its merely a matter of comfort not accuracy. However a more complicated suspension means its harder, or impossible, to fix in battle conditions. Its all a matter of preference and intention.
and most importantly has an active suspension system as well which this self centred jap forgot to bring out lol
the weight difference contributes the k2's swing to the back which also means there's more reaction force from the firing of the gun, which could be translated as the fired round has more power.
the thing to focus on is the movement of the barrel, not the body.
Most of today's 3 to 3.5 generation MBTs are 53 to 60 plus tons equipped with heavy main armors, with optional modular armors ready for an added protection.
However, Type 10 is a ridiculous byproduct of JSDF's own domestic dilemma as it must fit into the weight limitation on Japan's roads, bridges and railroads. That's why Type 10 came out as a ridiculously light tank by sacrificing many of today's MBT features, especially the main armors.
S. Korea's new generation K-2 MBT has a more power (1500 HP) than Type 10, the same max speed as Type 10 (70Km/h), deep underwater cross capabilities, a soft-kill and hard-kill anti-missile defense system, and is also designed for ruggedness to operate in treacherous mountains. Besides, Japan's Type 10 MBT is ridiculously too expensive despite its true military values, mainly due to Japanese defense industry's age-old traditional swindle. Who would buy such a weak MBT of an overinflated price?
44ton IFV + with trembling AA キャノン VS 56ton MBT + FIXED GUN. What's your choice on the battlefield? Am I the only one who reminds about chiha the moemoe VS m4 shermen the HEAVY tank?
Why does it matter that the Type 10 can lock its suspension? You wouldn't do that in a fluid battle anyway, and didn't you notice the XK2's gun stabilization in action?
OHOHOHOHOHOH the type 10 can stabilize 1 second faster than the xk2!!!!!! That's definitely better then!! That kind of suspension difference doesn't matter. Both tanks' fire rates are near 15/minute, so it doesn't matter. At all. Also, the xk2 has a stronger composite frontal armor, along with a faster autoloader.
Its amazing how butthirt people get when comparing weapons. It seems that all the immature people just have to prove that the weapon they support is better than others to enlarge their internet penis.
So, here is the truth, there is no use in comparing weapons...there are so many factors to be considered to make a clear determination impossible.
Grow up and ignore this kind of videos
P.S. All those people who think Japan is so much advanced in technology is biased and ignorant beyond belief.
BLUF (bottom line up front) this video is to entice some short of show down between two countries; which is superior. You want confrontation, right? Ride a fucking tank in the mud, with shitty food, with little to no sleep, body aching and cold, no shower in weeks, not to mention someone trying to kill you, then you might have an impact on your way of thinking "who's the best?"
I would choose the tank with the more experience crew and has the most support (tactical and logistical) in the battlefield. Bottom-line-upfront; steel on target is the name of the game people.
For those who never served in the military, you all (quite bluntly) have a limited perspective on this. It's not the better "suspension" that wins people; it's who can kill who first; how fast you can kill em with as little effort as possible and usually the dead guy dies without ever seeing it coming.
The Black Panther fields an advanced suspension system, called the In-arm Suspension Unit (ISU). The ISU, which is installed on every bogie on the tracks, allows them to be individually controlled. Thus, the K2 will be able not only to "sit", "stand" and "kneel", but to "lean" towards a side or a corner as well.
the k2 has a better gun, suspension system, and armor
the suspension system is the best in the world (for now)
the L55 Rheinmetall 120mm smoothbore is the best right now, capable of taking down anything (including type 10), as of now, the only tanks that have it are the german leopard 2A6 and the s korean k2 black panther. the only tanks capable of withstanding it combined with a semi-depleted uranium round is the k2, m1a2, leopard 2, challenger 2.
@sonofmonkeyjaps Shut the fuck up dude.....you insult koreans with retarded comments like. Oh and fun fact: koreans and japaense share essentially 98% of DNA, so how the fuck does that make them "biologically inferior"? If they're inferior, then by your logic, so are koreans. Just do yourself a favor and stop fucking talking you fucking racist ignorant prick.
@sonofmonkeyjaps they are not biologically inferior, i m south korean, i mean every country in the world except the latin americas, and africa hates japan,
they commited atrocities and never apologized, payed for war damage and denyed everything, but its not the people, it the government..
일본은 완전한 독자적인 고체 로켓 기술로 1970년에 인공 위성을 쏘아 올렸다. 최초의 액체 로켓은 미국에서 기술 도입 밑이, 그것을 혁신해서 Expander Bleed cycle를 세계에서 시작해서 실용화하거나 LOX / LH2을 독자개발해서 고성능의 독자 로켓을 만들었다. 한국이 2021년에 KSLV2을 쏘아 올릴 때, 어떻게 부끄러운 민족주의의 거짓말투성이의 자위를 하는 것일지 지금부터 즐거움이다 w
한국의 전차는 엔진과 트랜스미션이 독일제로 자동장전 장치는 프랑스제이기 때문에 일본과는 비교가 안 된다. 국산화도 잘 되어 있지 않다. 한국은 무엇이든지 기술 이전 하게 해서 국산과 거짓말을 한다. 거기에서의 발전이나 혁신이 없기 때문에 언제나 열등한 카피로 미치지 않게 일본의 문화까지 훔쳐서 국산문화와 거짓말을 하고 있다. 검도나 유도나 합기도를 피해서 kumdo나 yudo나 hapkido라고 말해서 전통문화와 거짓말을 하고 있다. 로켓이라도, 한국의 신문은 「국산 로켓으로 한국도 우주강국침입」이라고 이상한 민족우월 주의를 부채질 하고 있었다.
k2 is stronger.... anyway korea invests more money in military than japan..... ever since japan in wwII.............. *cough* nanking rape, *cough* denying all atrocites..... The strongest countries in asia (excluding russia) is 1st china 2nd india 3rd south korea
Some of the Type 90's shortcomings come from Japan's narrow gauge rail system which has lower freight carrying capabilities than Korea's standard gauge thus requiring lighter tanks. Korea had a 762mm narrow gauge line but it was closed on Dec.31,1995.
I would choose Korean XK2 tank. The L55 gun of it is more powerful than Japan type 10 tank"s one. The armour of the K2 is stronger. This video just compare the best part of the Japanese tank to the bad part of Korean tank.
Its a bit shorter and narrower than regular main battle tanks. Its very light, what did they do to make it lighter? Composite armor? cramped crew compartment? trying to make a tank lighter is counter intuitive, a tank without good armor is a dead tank. Our Leopard 2, the American's M1, the British Challenger are designed with the weight they have for a good reason. Infact there are rumors that the MBTs are actually higher than indicated by specifications.
@tenga3wa10 not really. type 10 has L44 120mm gun. K2 has L55 120mm gun. So L55 is better than L44. Also the K2 can be fitted with a 140mm gun with bare minimal adjustments
Sorry everyone Japanese weapons are not for sales outside Japan!! Japanese goverment regret the WWII so much that they banned exporting Japanese made weapons about a few decades ago. They believe that banning Japnese made weapon will prevent Chinise etc attaching Japan and will contribute the peace in the world. This made Japanese weapons very expensive too. You should go to South Korea or other countries if you need to buy some.
@paraboda K2 is more expensive than Type 10...this was due to cost overrun during the development, which made K2 the most expensive tank in the world. Lucky that Turkey decided to liscence it.
@looxgood Thanks for the note. K2 must be very good tank. Or maybe S Korean government added some financial/technical aid as a package for Turkish government ? I tend to think S Korean technology may not be still top noch though I am sure they are catching up very quickly. Japenes government may allow exporting their weapons soon. Japanese is overcoming the trauma by the bad deaf during WW2 gradually. I guess Its about time that the Japan will be able to protect itself rationally.
@paraboda I agree - K2 is NOT the best in the world, but K2 is more or less designed to counter T-90 or other top-soviet block tanks. K2, Type 10, Leo 2 are all good tanks in its own right. I am Korean but I agree with you that Japan should now develop its own military instead of Self-Defense force, and not linger on the past of WWII. I think Japan and Korea should work together, not only in business, but also as military and international political partner.
@looxgood I agree. Japan needs to work closely with S Korea and US to maintain the security of the region. We share freedom of speech, democracy, free market and the asian virtues. I hope two Koreas unite someday as free country. United Korea will certainly be another economic power and create a constructive rival relationship with Japan. If this happens it forces the two to be very competitive for centries and will give ability to match up together with future power of China and India!!
you take note of the good things done during the period, such as the economic development of 3.5%. But that's not significant compared to the 10~11% of the 1970s. extensive railroad projects were undertaken simply because you needed means of transporting war material to Manchuria. A university was built, but then, mostly Japanese living in Korea were allowed to attend it.
Everything was done to integrate Korean economy into that of Japan.
how can you proudly say "we worked for Korea's benefit"?
@TheFreshmeat31 Zip it, gook. Koreans are pathetic cowards. What happened after WWII? Why don't you fuckbags ever talk about the events written in "So Far From The Bamboo Grove"? Pathetic cowards raping innocent Japanese women and children after the war. You guys are worthless.
@gyaradosgengar shut the hell up you fucking Jokkbbari.. you guys are just a thieves who stealing korean and chinese tradition. you fucking japs are shit culture which cut off people's head.. Japs are just midget WAENOM always making Pornographic..
@TheFreshmeat31 I'm telling you to shut your jaw crack. You guys are the despicable hypocrites that try to deny your own war atrocities. Vietnam war? Post WWII? You're the cruel faggots that slaughtered and murdered innocent women and children. Japanese don't have shit culture, Japanese culture is the richest in the world, and Koreans are the ones who stole from Japanese and Chinese culture. Just look at the hanbok, like a rip-off of the yukata. Be thankful Japan saved you ingrates from poverty!
@TheFreshmeat31 Nah, you're the bitch. North Korea hates you guys too. Funny how you suck up to the communist pricks, while they murder your innocent civilians. Korean pride my ass.
@gyaradosgengar And furthermore, I'm sick of the pathetic argument, "Korea also killed people in the Vietnam War" - if I follow your reasoning, countries that were urged or forced by US to fight against communism in the Korean War to save democracy - namely Turkey, Columbia, Canada, Australia should be condemned in the same manner. HOW IS THAT even COMPARABLE to Japanese Imperialism, which crushed colonial movement by committing massacres in order to destroy another country's identity?
@gyaradosgengar Surely, you don't think Don Katsu (Pork Cutlet), Koroke (Croquette), Yakiniku (Bulgogi) originated in Japan?
Recently, North Korean military officials declared that if war does break out, NK will be seeking revenge on Japan at the same time - Japanese government announced that they'd be sending special forces to rescue Japanese living in Korea, NK viewed this as an "attempt to continue on with their Imperialist ambition".
@gyaradosgengar Again, you Japanese "copy and claim" things as your own. Ever heard of Kimuchi? Wonder where it originated in the first place? You'll be surprised by how much cultural influence Yamato received from Baekjae.
But XK2 is 9t heavier. A recoil does not matter because the computer can compensate that. Rather choose XK2. They both have 120mm cannon but lets see side arms. XK2 with 12.7mm K6 machine gun and 7.62mm. Type 10 12.5mm M2. XK2 1500hp, Type 10 1200hp. Its light weight means a bit fail in defence. And look how expensive that thing is compare to XK2.. End of story.
@iwaimasue Maybe true, but it tastes all so good. Mmm, garlic...the herb of life. Besides dude, it always stink in turret even if you don't eat garlic.
The thing is these two tanks will never face in battle. So whats the point of comparing these two tanks??? The difference in suspension can not be judged just by the video. The role of the suspension is for maneuvering, not stationary firing. The recoil is not a problem for the computer in the tanks to compensate (notice the gun keeps pointing at the target). And you have to remember the fact that the KX2 is 9 tones heavier then Type10. a difference is inevitable.
While I think both tanks are equally awesome in their own respects, I'm going to side with the Japanese on the technology front. Why? Well, which of the two countries have launched TWO lunar probes successfully? (Hint: It starts with 'J')
But, I digress as this is almost irrelevant to the actual debate between the tanks.
i know japanese navy is much stronger than korea's. airforce is pretty much no difference. However japanese army sucks. korea's army is rank 3 in the world.
@WingedCity01 Japan, the most technologically advanced nation in the world, hampered only by it's military restrictions, can and would be the most powerful nation. Even till this day, some of the best scientists and soldiers are Japanese so if war ever broke out, Japan would win.
@gyaradosgengar I wish I liked Japan, but the way you Japanese act on youtube isn't impressive - I know Japanese prime ministers have apologized several times in the past, but you honour your ancestors who brought about the disaster, at the same time.
My own grandmother was forced to speak Japanese at school, and still knows quite a bit of it. now you Japanese are telling us you promoted the use of Hangul? put yourselves in our shoes and think about these things.
I'll take the Japanese any time. As you can see it doesn't swing after the shot, the active suspension dampens the oscillation immediately. Add the hydraulic continuously variable transmission, 10 tons less and all the electronic gadgets of Type 90 (including the ability of several tanks to shoot simultaneously on the same target) and you'll have a winner. (Un)fortunately Japan doesn't export weapons!
Suspension of the K2 allows it to kneel stand up, etc allowing it to increase or decrease angle of fire. That is a much more superior suspension than active suspension. Not like in the stupid biased video.
And BTW for the retard saying koreans do not have the technology to make this, Koreans already surpassed japanese in electronics many years ago. So don't get wrapped up in ur stupid ego. We now EXPORT technology to japan.
So in conclusion tanks with smaller gun so has lower recoil is better. ROFL you japs are so funny. compare what you can compare with. k2 and t10 is classified in a different category. ps u do not compare 44t tanks with 56ton tanks. It is just absurd. k2 has all those 'high tech' stuff u mentioned above+ modular armor, active hydropeunomic suspension, KSTAM with ranges up to 8km, l55 made by WIA, commander and gunner's separate sights, active defence system etc etc
@arstriker the k2 for sure a first class tank. reasons best western gun in the German l55 120mm cannon, She can flatten her treads out when waiting too ambush as too be a harder target. The reason she never rates high is her armor never been rated as of yet designed after the leopard 2a6 in that respect and that the leo week spot as well. Yet the type 10 also has no armor rating yet so the Arjun looks better so far.
@starknight97 K2 cannot be a first class tank because it cannot even run. And you dont know anything about type 10. Type 10's armor is one of the most advanced armor in the world and it's gun is a new l44 120mm gun which is not a german l44.
@arstriker All tanks go though this look at Arjun or the leopard 2 and m1 prototype. Which is the same by the way. K the type 10 a new prototype armor which i been working with and it has a ton a problems with the Nano-crystal steel. As it super strong it also poor against heat. so as it with crush, bounce penetrators well. a at-11 with a tandem and focus blast should cut though easier.The armor has too prove it self first. l44 120mm looks weak in the gun area this is the m1a2 main problem now.
@starknight97 When Japan had developed type90, the US commissioned to offer armor tech, but it was declined. Now, Japan have the tech which achieves the equal defense potential in the weight of the 30% of type90's armor, and it's said that type10's armor is strong for CE such as heat, too.
And type10's l44 120mm is a gun of new development which is different from german l44 gun such as m1a2's. You should think about why type10 did not adopt german l55, but adopt new l44.
@arstriker what armor tech do we have too offer lol. we use a brit tech on our own tank then add the most expensive metals in the world DU added to it. The Brits use a type 2 version that is just as good as ours with the DU mesh though in the seps this is a alloy now. if they turned down Chobham Level 2/Dorchester. they are dumb then. as the Nano-crystal steel also has a composite mean they could have had the best both. still a l44 is gonna be a slower round not enough too penetrate new armors.
@arstriker now as far as Nano-crystal steel and heat it just a fact of life they weaker too heat in general as you lose your crystal aliment when heated. Most modern western armors are stronger too heat rounds the sabots. Case in point the frontal turret on a m1a2sep is almost 1600 mm RH vs heat but only 1000mm vs Tu Sabots.
@arstriker Just fact you trade 1 for the other. Now Nano-crystal armor with a advanced era like the Russia Kontakt-5. would take total effect on HE. and the Nano-crystal armor on the apfsds. Though if layering the composite too protect the Nano-crystal in sort your ceramic first. This help a lot but you'll lose that layer ever time on apfsds round hit. Though you still lose a layer each time if the right round hits at the right time..
@arstriker i will say this though your tank looks very hopeful. As the u.s. 40ton FCS was canceled this tank look best too fill that role very low profile. Lighter easier to transport and deploy. Perfect for delay and guard maneuvers for the XM1203. Though I'd love too have seen more fire power though you can off set this. Talk too Israel Aerospace Industries and get the LAHAT. This will off set the fire power loss of a l55 and give you more range. After all the m1a3 not looking much better.
I choose the tank with the better trained crew with the better combat, logistic, and communication support ya damn otaku. Join the military and you won't be needing to know if the equipment is good or not.
resolute54321 5 days ago
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JSDF must take the ass of the crappy training and equipment PLA and KPA!
Shinamustbedown 3 weeks ago
Perhaps XK2 is less refined in some points than Type 10 in engine noise and shock absorption but real question is whether it's effective where it counts. I give credit to the Japanese in attention to details, but I've noticed them spending their efforts on areas that's not all that practical. Perhaps it's like comparing M16 and AK47. We all know M16 is more refined gun, but AK is much more powerful, effective and practical. Hence it's the most popular gun in the world.
Xentradi97 1 month ago
OK, to sum it up:
1) The gun of K2 is the L55, Type 10 uses the L44. The difference in power is about 15% in favor of K2. L44 was announced as outdated by Rheinmetall over 20 years ago.
2) K2 features additional protection, ERA/NERA and 2 APS.
3) K2 is larger in the direct sense. Type 10 is closer to the Russian tank designs (small, compact and light).
4) Type 10 was designed to be as light as possible, thus featuring lightweight composite armor. How it does against munitions is yet yo be seen.
Buuub08 1 month ago
And btw, how much the tank sways after the shot is completely and utterly irrelevant. Even how much it moves during the shot should be irrelevant too if the stabilization system does what its supposed to do. A better suspension gives you a smoother ride, its merely a matter of comfort not accuracy. However a more complicated suspension means its harder, or impossible, to fix in battle conditions. Its all a matter of preference and intention.
Buuub08 1 month ago
XK2 has Autoloader as well
and most importantly has an active suspension system as well which this self centred jap forgot to bring out lol
the weight difference contributes the k2's swing to the back which also means there's more reaction force from the firing of the gun, which could be translated as the fired round has more power.
the thing to focus on is the movement of the barrel, not the body.
Hedonist931 1 month ago
10 Type = 44 tons, $8,847,203.51
XK-2 (or K-2) = 56 tons, $7,520,122.98
anyway.. ma pt is.. K-2 is good for Korean peninsula
Type 10 is good for Japanese islands Period!
No ifs or buts
myungfile92 1 month ago
japtube...
mireille4423 1 month ago
K2 is a defective unit.
It cannot be mass-produced.
CrimeAvenger2 2 months ago 2
XK2 is heavier and has a longer barrel
alvincenthanoi 2 months ago
I choose the k2! XD
SirHungryHippo 2 months ago
The gun barrel of the Type 10 is rocking quite hard.
Doesn't look good from here.
DeftCrowMk3 2 months ago
日本製と韓国製比べるまでもない
jgsdf1991 3 months ago
Nothing my boys...
TheGalaxy625 3 months ago
10式は2002年開発開始で2010年配備開始。
k2は1995年開発開始で2011年配備開始予定が不具合の為ならず。
比べるまでもないな、こんなもん。
nokokoneko 3 months ago 12
japtube great ~! monkey banana?
dltk56 3 months ago
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Most of today's 3 to 3.5 generation MBTs are 53 to 60 plus tons equipped with heavy main armors, with optional modular armors ready for an added protection.
However, Type 10 is a ridiculous byproduct of JSDF's own domestic dilemma as it must fit into the weight limitation on Japan's roads, bridges and railroads. That's why Type 10 came out as a ridiculously light tank by sacrificing many of today's MBT features, especially the main armors.
Then, the choice is obvious.
youngk9lover 4 months ago
S. Korea's new generation K-2 MBT has a more power (1500 HP) than Type 10, the same max speed as Type 10 (70Km/h), deep underwater cross capabilities, a soft-kill and hard-kill anti-missile defense system, and is also designed for ruggedness to operate in treacherous mountains. Besides, Japan's Type 10 MBT is ridiculously too expensive despite its true military values, mainly due to Japanese defense industry's age-old traditional swindle. Who would buy such a weak MBT of an overinflated price?
youngk9lover 4 months ago
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youngk9lover 4 months ago
44ton IFV + with trembling AA キャノン VS 56ton MBT + FIXED GUN. What's your choice on the battlefield? Am I the only one who reminds about chiha the moemoe VS m4 shermen the HEAVY tank?
Halongas 4 months ago
どちらが強いかどうかは、知る由もないが、これだけは断言しよう！10式戦車はK2なぞよりも機動性・機能性においてスマートであると！！
crapengine1990 4 months ago
Extol T-72 ! Objekt !! Объект !!!
SummyYusa 4 months ago
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SummyYusa 4 months ago
None of them! They are still prototypes and many things might change in ready for mass production model.
BitnikGr 5 months ago
guys.... hey guise.... ive got... i've got an idea, lets get.... get a... lets get an abrams and... we'lll.... we'll make it small okay... guise?
tyuru2 5 months ago
diffe567さん、私はK2にそれほどの防御力が有ったら反応装甲やAPS（ｱｸﾃｨﾌﾞ防御ｼｽﾃﾑ）は必要ないと思います。
そもそも、これらの装備は「HEAT弾に対して脆弱な二世代戦車」のHEAT弾対策のために開発された、付け焼刃みたいな装備です。
つまり、新設計の戦車にこれらの装備を搭載するのは装甲技術が無い事を露呈しています。
あと、未だ完成すらしていない戦車の方が量産化した戦車より優れていると思った根拠は何ですか？
是非とも教えてください。
tomyyuu1 5 months ago
HamZang1124さん
失礼ですが、貴方は何人ですか？
とても日本人が書くような文章で無いですね。
なぜ日本語で書くのですか？
Sunakujira110 5 months ago
영어실력 젬병이라 존나 애미없게 적었네;
diffe567 5 months ago
NO.10 MERKAVA MK4
diffe567 5 months ago
diffe567 5 months ago
diffe567 5 months ago
독일에서 기술 이전 된 한국제의 엔진과 트랜스미션은 결함제품입니다. 처음부터 독일의를 채용하고 있으면 좋았는데도
unkeihokusai 5 months ago
@unkeihokusai 어차피 파워팩만 국산 제품으로 교체하면 된다. 한국어 실력도 엉망인 일본인은 신경쓰지 않아도 된다.
Gasiobida 5 months ago
XK-2
120 mm (4.72 in)
55 caliber
Type-10
120 mm (4.72 in)
44 caliber
to save weight, Type 10 sacrificed the fire power.
the difference between the 44, 55 caliber guns are thought to be around 30%
I don't think XK-2 is shaking by 30% more.
HeDoNisT860 6 months ago
ill say there both nice tanks
lilaznthug510 6 months ago
HamZang1124さん、このコメント欄は両国の戦車と開発技術について記入する所では無いのでしょうか？
議論に熱くなってしまうのは良く分かりますが議題をすり替えるという、つまらない真似はしないで下さい。
正直、「アメリカが」とか「陸軍全体で」とかは如何でもいいです。
とは言え、私自身が逸れた話をしてしまいますが、HamZang1124さん、貴方は10式戦車の調達について勘違いなさっている。
10式は74式の後継機であり74式の席には10式が逐次座り、最終的に58両を優に超え、K2 の調達数200両を超えます。
つまり、調達時期の遅いK2は10式の調達数を超える事は無い訳です。
また、調達コストに関して、国内生産の90式や10式は特別高コストな選択ではなく、どちらかと言えば財政に優しい選択です。
あと、74式と言う40年前の技術とK2の独力で完成した貴重な部分が同レベルということに遅れを感じませんか？
更に20年前に造られた90式でも移動しながら3km先の動く目標をAPFSDSで正確にぶち抜く事が出来ますよ。
tomyyuu1 6 months ago
10の主任務は反日ゲリラを殲滅する事、侵略国家中国や韓国の装備や数と比較するなんてナンセンス。
nullop8 6 months ago
@nullop8
私も分かっている, しかしそのような方式で逃げたら, 韓国海軍と海自はどうして比べるか? ww
日本と韓国がお互いに戦争する事は絶対にない, 日本は韓国の海上戦力を補助して韓国は日本の地上戦力を補助する. アメリカがそうにさせた. ww
HamZang1124 6 months ago
K2と10式が戦うなんていうのは南朝鮮が対馬にでも侵攻し、奪回すべく陸自が再上陸するとかの場合だけだな。
まぁK2はエンジンの量産が軌道に乗ってからだろ。
車体ができてもエンジンなしで放置じゃ、比較する以前の問題だ。
umiiguanahagarapagos 6 months ago
@umiiguanahagarapagos
既存の1900馬力をあきらめて1500馬力エンジンで梁山を始めたと分かっている. K2の主砲直線射程距離だけでも 2kmの品物, 最初に中国を狙って作る品物だ. 満洲原野で中国戦車 スナイピングしようと作った 戦車 ww
HamZang1124 6 months ago
海自に比べて優先順位が低い陸上自衛隊に予算を与える事はなさそうで, 東北地震のためあった予算もまた減少するようだが, 海自を見て韓国海軍を見たら涙が出た. 韓国陸軍を見て陸上自衛隊を見たらまた笑うことができた. こんな話だ
HamZang1124 6 months ago
譲歩して10式が世界最強だと認定をしても, 58門で何をしようと? ww
HamZang1124 6 months ago
-韓国陸軍戦力 ・戦車:M-48A3K(2.5世代) 380門,M-48A5K(3世代) 500門,T-80U(3世代) 35門,K1(3世代) 1027門,K1A1(3世代) 484門,K2(3.5世代) 393門生産予定 ・装甲車:K200 2400門,BMP-3 70門,K21 1000門生産予定 ・自走砲:K-55(M109A6) 1040門,K-9(pzh2000の次に世界ランク2位) 300門以上 ・MLRS:K-136 156門,M270 96門 ・兵力規模:現役 約52万2千人,予備軍 約304万人
-陸上自衛隊戦力 ・戦車:74式(2世代) 561門,90式(3世代) 315門,10式(3.5世代) 58門生産予定 ・装甲車:89式 70門,73式 340門,96式 160門生産予定 ・自走砲:75式 140門,M110 90門,99式 78門 ・MLRS:M270 90門,75式 66門 ・兵力規模:約14万7千人
HamZang1124 6 months ago
戦車開発の歩みが先に進んでいると? 74式戦車は 同世代の 戦車に比べてほとんど 一世代遅れてコストは高い希代の拙作だ. 絶対良いと思うことができない性能にほとんど世界 1位の生産コスト, 10式で日本の 戦車開発ノーハウが上昇したということは認める. まず高い国産化率を果たしたし, 小さな大きさに平均以上の性能を出す, しかし国産化固執と日本の 戦車生産政策によった最大の問題であるコスト, 確かに言うが 44t戦車は 55t戦車から重さから滞るから, そして韓国の問題は非理のためであって開発能力不足のためではない, しかも K2が 要求するパワーパックは 1900馬力でこんな品物はまだドイツも作り出すことができなかったこと, 試行錯誤はいつも存在する, 東部戦線でドイツのパント 戦車も野地でエンジンが急に止める問題が多かった.
HamZang1124 6 months ago
戦車開発の歩みは少なくとも日本の方が進んでいると思うぞ。 なにせ、K2は二世代戦車７４式並みの油圧サスペンションに*他国の部品や技術を組み込んだのに対して、10式は90式と違い主砲まで全て自国の代物だ。 あと55口径120mm砲は長すぎるため市街地での戦闘などに不向きで、しかも44口径と比べ射撃時に砲身が振動易いため命中精度の低下と振動によってAPFSDSの飛翔体が砕けてしまい威力低下の可能性がデカくなってしまう。 このため55口径が44口径よりも優れている事にはならない。 またｱｸﾃｨﾌﾞ防御は装甲技術に自信があれば付ける代物じゃない、付けるとすればそれは技術に自信のない証しだ。 （*主砲：ドイツのﾗｲﾝﾒﾀﾙ社製 自動装填装置：フランスのﾈｸｽﾀｰ社からの技術提供で完成 ｱｸﾃｨﾌﾞ防御ｼｽﾃﾑ用ﾐﾘ波ﾚｰﾀﾞｰ：ロシアのKBM社から技術援助で完成 エンジン：自国のエンジンは欠陥が有った為にドイツのMTU社製に変更 複合装甲：フランスとロシアの技術で完成）
tomyyuu1 6 months ago
日本は本土が敵によって上陸されることができる唯一の国家がロシアだから 90式を北海道に配置した. その所に見詰めて残る余裕能力を海自に投入して莫強した海上戦力を保有して東北アジアの米軍陣営の海上圧迫力を極大化する, 韓国は大陸国家だから何より北朝鮮と向い合っているし, その向こうには中国, ロシア, したがって半島国家なのに地上戦力にほとんどすべてをかけた. 3世代 戦車を 2千門 以上保有しているし, M109A6級自走砲 K-55を千余門, K-9 自走砲を 300余門を含めて砲兵戦力は東北アジア最強. 韓国陸軍は単独で中国の 瀋陽軍区,北京軍区を受け止めることができる
HamZang1124 6 months ago
韓国海軍が海自に無理であるもののように, 陸上自衛隊は韓国陸軍に絶対無理だ. 陸上自衛隊の 戦力は韓国陸軍の 20% 水準, 戦車開発も他の国の 同世代 戦車らより 一世代遅れるとか, ようで狭軌問題で小型戦車のみを生産しなければならない制約, そしてそれによる火力不足, 高い開発コスト, 少ない生産数によった高い生産単価, 日本 戦車は性能は水準以下なのに価格はレオパド,M1より高い(大幅所)
日本は地上戦力は韓国に任せて軍艦だけ作れば良い
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HamZang1124 6 months ago
without a doubt south koreas xk2 black panther is the better tank
skywiz3 6 months ago
@skywiz3 true
MsTheTerminator 6 months ago
Nice absorb, certainly.
By the way, where did 200 longbows go away(--#)
flutteringleaf 6 months ago
10식이 k2처럼 능동방어시스템이 있는 것도 아니고 장갑이 강한 것도 아니고 하다 못해 그 흔하디 흔한 연막탄도 없는데 10식이 전차냐? 포탑에 대전차포를 장착한 IFV보병전투장갑차지 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
zpdldj 6 months ago
korean will dominate the universe, so we have best army in the world.
bloodelfshit 7 months ago
Why does it matter that the Type 10 can lock its suspension? You wouldn't do that in a fluid battle anyway, and didn't you notice the XK2's gun stabilization in action?
luvr381 7 months ago
xk2 is more great!!!
wow0103 7 months ago
陸自さんがヒトマル式は異次元の戦車だってこの前言ってた。
lopezmasa0904 7 months ago
Wire locked Type10 Tank...
Do not scam....
warcaptive 7 months ago
K-2 win of course no questions asked.
lilaznthug510 7 months ago
OHOHOHOHOHOH the type 10 can stabilize 1 second faster than the xk2!!!!!! That's definitely better then!! That kind of suspension difference doesn't matter. Both tanks' fire rates are near 15/minute, so it doesn't matter. At all. Also, the xk2 has a stronger composite frontal armor, along with a faster autoloader.
epicfail86 7 months ago
戦車は海じゃおもちゃ。どうせ海に沈むんだから、10式と比べるだけ無駄。
0211naka 7 months ago
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Its amazing how butthirt people get when comparing weapons. It seems that all the immature people just have to prove that the weapon they support is better than others to enlarge their internet penis.
So, here is the truth, there is no use in comparing weapons...there are so many factors to be considered to make a clear determination impossible.
Grow up and ignore this kind of videos
P.S. All those people who think Japan is so much advanced in technology is biased and ignorant beyond belief.
dlxowns322 7 months ago
Active suspensionの効果ですが、連射した場合まったく同じ場所にピンポイントで命中するようになったようです。ちなみに連射性能ですが、９０式で分１２発。
止まって射撃してると装甲の同じ場所に１２発当てられるのは怖すぎますね
namiyosi 8 months ago
South Korea XK-2!!!
dh940612 8 months ago
Type10？90式だろ
鮮猿工作ごくろうさんｗ
akatuki123ify 8 months ago
@akatuki123ify
１０式戦車で間違いないですが？？
試作車で、モジュール装甲を外した姿は９０式に酷似しています。
16DDHhyuga 8 months ago
@akatuki123ify
火力で90式が10式をしのぐのに
日本人up主が10式戦車主砲がとても弱く見えて変えたことだろう
K2は10式ではなく90式と比べるのがむしろ正常
10式ロリコムペックト戦車はIFV車体上に戦車砲塔乗せたこと(爆笑)wwwww
HamZang1124 6 months ago
BLUF (bottom line up front) this video is to entice some short of show down between two countries; which is superior. You want confrontation, right? Ride a fucking tank in the mud, with shitty food, with little to no sleep, body aching and cold, no shower in weeks, not to mention someone trying to kill you, then you might have an impact on your way of thinking "who's the best?"
resolute123 8 months ago
I would choose the tank with the more experience crew and has the most support (tactical and logistical) in the battlefield. Bottom-line-upfront; steel on target is the name of the game people.
For those who never served in the military, you all (quite bluntly) have a limited perspective on this. It's not the better "suspension" that wins people; it's who can kill who first; how fast you can kill em with as little effort as possible and usually the dead guy dies without ever seeing it coming.
resolute123 8 months ago
@tenga3wa10 actually they do unlike in japan
where they censored some historical events in most japanese schools.
but they shouldn't censor it, instead grieve, mourn, confront it, and then move on
actually everyone do it, play god of war 3 see what happens to kratos.
MsTheTerminator 9 months ago
The Black Panther fields an advanced suspension system, called the In-arm Suspension Unit (ISU). The ISU, which is installed on every bogie on the tracks, allows them to be individually controlled. Thus, the K2 will be able not only to "sit", "stand" and "kneel", but to "lean" towards a side or a corner as well.
MsTheTerminator 9 months ago
but you gotta give some japanese some applause, their type 10 nano crystal armor is pretty powerful and cheap,
MsTheTerminator 9 months ago
the k2 has a better gun, suspension system, and armor
the suspension system is the best in the world (for now)
the L55 Rheinmetall 120mm smoothbore is the best right now, capable of taking down anything (including type 10), as of now, the only tanks that have it are the german leopard 2A6 and the s korean k2 black panther. the only tanks capable of withstanding it combined with a semi-depleted uranium round is the k2, m1a2, leopard 2, challenger 2.
MsTheTerminator 9 months ago
I'll choose the Japanese tank because the suspension is the ONLY thing that matters in a MBT.
AakeTraak 9 months ago
@sonofmonkeyjaps Shut the fuck up dude.....you insult koreans with retarded comments like. Oh and fun fact: koreans and japaense share essentially 98% of DNA, so how the fuck does that make them "biologically inferior"? If they're inferior, then by your logic, so are koreans. Just do yourself a favor and stop fucking talking you fucking racist ignorant prick.
Huhmasta 9 months ago
@sonofmonkeyjaps they are not biologically inferior, i m south korean, i mean every country in the world except the latin americas, and africa hates japan,
they commited atrocities and never apologized, payed for war damage and denyed everything, but its not the people, it the government..
MsTheTerminator 9 months ago
japanis tank = monkey magic tank
TTzealousTT 9 months ago
일본은 완전한 독자적인 고체 로켓 기술로 1970년에 인공 위성을 쏘아 올렸다. 최초의 액체 로켓은 미국에서 기술 도입 밑이, 그것을 혁신해서 Expander Bleed cycle를 세계에서 시작해서 실용화하거나 LOX / LH2을 독자개발해서 고성능의 독자 로켓을 만들었다. 한국이 2021년에 KSLV2을 쏘아 올릴 때, 어떻게 부끄러운 민족주의의 거짓말투성이의 자위를 하는 것일지 지금부터 즐거움이다 w
unkeihokusai 9 months ago
한국의 전차는 엔진과 트랜스미션이 독일제로 자동장전 장치는 프랑스제이기 때문에 일본과는 비교가 안 된다. 국산화도 잘 되어 있지 않다. 한국은 무엇이든지 기술 이전 하게 해서 국산과 거짓말을 한다. 거기에서의 발전이나 혁신이 없기 때문에 언제나 열등한 카피로 미치지 않게 일본의 문화까지 훔쳐서 국산문화와 거짓말을 하고 있다. 검도나 유도나 합기도를 피해서 kumdo나 yudo나 hapkido라고 말해서 전통문화와 거짓말을 하고 있다. 로켓이라도, 한국의 신문은 「국산 로켓으로 한국도 우주강국침입」이라고 이상한 민족우월 주의를 부채질 하고 있었다.
unkeihokusai 9 months ago
@tenga3wa10
中国ソ連が対立している時期に一時的に西側に傾いて
技術支援してもらったりしたこともありましたよね。
戦闘機も戦車もエンジンがキモなんですね。
seirodate 9 months ago
悔しくて堪らない朝鮮人が多いね。
분해서 참을 수없는 조선인이 많구나.
maguna75 9 months ago
k2 is stronger.... anyway korea invests more money in military than japan..... ever since japan in wwII.............. *cough* nanking rape, *cough* denying all atrocites..... The strongest countries in asia (excluding russia) is 1st china 2nd india 3rd south korea
MsTheTerminator 9 months ago
Some of the Type 90's shortcomings come from Japan's narrow gauge rail system which has lower freight carrying capabilities than Korea's standard gauge thus requiring lighter tanks. Korea had a 762mm narrow gauge line but it was closed on Dec.31,1995.
xxwzaebd 10 months ago
I would choose Korean XK2 tank. The L55 gun of it is more powerful than Japan type 10 tank"s one. The armour of the K2 is stronger. This video just compare the best part of the Japanese tank to the bad part of Korean tank.
FeelFree3 10 months ago
@FeelFree3 what bad part?
MsTheTerminator 9 months ago
@MsTheTerminator Like the video says for suspension ability Japanese tanks is slightly better.
FeelFree3 6 months ago
K2戦車のパワーパック開発が
頓挫しているようですね。
もしかして、韓国より中国のほうが
開発能力が上ということ？
seirodate 10 months ago
I choose Leopard 2A6 or russian N-80 UM-1
MrProstokepka 10 months ago
朝鮮人、必死だな
takagikenkou 10 months ago 3
Its a bit shorter and narrower than regular main battle tanks. Its very light, what did they do to make it lighter? Composite armor? cramped crew compartment? trying to make a tank lighter is counter intuitive, a tank without good armor is a dead tank. Our Leopard 2, the American's M1, the British Challenger are designed with the weight they have for a good reason. Infact there are rumors that the MBTs are actually higher than indicated by specifications.
Crisis7 10 months ago
@Crisis7 I think the spec says Japanese tank has autoloader, which tend the make the tank lighter.
pekau 1 month ago
@tenga3wa10 not really. type 10 has L44 120mm gun. K2 has L55 120mm gun. So L55 is better than L44. Also the K2 can be fitted with a 140mm gun with bare minimal adjustments
kahuna028 10 months ago
The concept of TYPE10 is Israels Merkav near.
same anti gerrira.
no anti Tank battle.
Type10 and K2 arenot brothes.
ult7 11 months ago
okok
japan win
^^
lim0275 11 months ago
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일본은 군대를 보유할 수 없습니다.
lim0275 11 months ago
I'm assuming that whoever put this video up never been inside a tank before.
looxgood 11 months ago
I would choose the black panther because it's cheaper and still effective in combat.
ukraguy 11 months ago
最初からK2戦車と10式戦車を比べるほうが，K2戦車に気の毒な気がする．
日本の戦車は74式戦車からこの辺やってるからね．
marq2871 11 months ago
Sorry everyone Japanese weapons are not for sales outside Japan!! Japanese goverment regret the WWII so much that they banned exporting Japanese made weapons about a few decades ago. They believe that banning Japnese made weapon will prevent Chinise etc attaching Japan and will contribute the peace in the world. This made Japanese weapons very expensive too. You should go to South Korea or other countries if you need to buy some.
paraboda 11 months ago
@paraboda K2 is more expensive than Type 10...this was due to cost overrun during the development, which made K2 the most expensive tank in the world. Lucky that Turkey decided to liscence it.
looxgood 11 months ago
@looxgood Thanks for the note. K2 must be very good tank. Or maybe S Korean government added some financial/technical aid as a package for Turkish government ? I tend to think S Korean technology may not be still top noch though I am sure they are catching up very quickly. Japenes government may allow exporting their weapons soon. Japanese is overcoming the trauma by the bad deaf during WW2 gradually. I guess Its about time that the Japan will be able to protect itself rationally.
paraboda 11 months ago
@paraboda I agree - K2 is NOT the best in the world, but K2 is more or less designed to counter T-90 or other top-soviet block tanks. K2, Type 10, Leo 2 are all good tanks in its own right. I am Korean but I agree with you that Japan should now develop its own military instead of Self-Defense force, and not linger on the past of WWII. I think Japan and Korea should work together, not only in business, but also as military and international political partner.
looxgood 11 months ago
@looxgood I agree. Japan needs to work closely with S Korea and US to maintain the security of the region. We share freedom of speech, democracy, free market and the asian virtues. I hope two Koreas unite someday as free country. United Korea will certainly be another economic power and create a constructive rival relationship with Japan. If this happens it forces the two to be very competitive for centries and will give ability to match up together with future power of China and India!!
paraboda 10 months ago
@paraboda
Thanks , Agree with you!!
We can not make proper weapon couse of the law.
We can not sell the weapons to other countries that's why developing the weapons are very expensive.
We have to have working together Korea and Japan.
But Pls give us back 竹島！！！ Hehehehehehe!!!
ajlaviva 11 months ago
흑표 전차, 엔진 국산화 2013년 이후로 미뤄 IOI
Why? wwwwwww
mywarawara 11 months ago
all american technology..... 어차피 이런것들 핵 한방이면 다 녹는데 왜 이렇게 싸워데는지..? ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
TheFreshmeat31 11 months ago
These are waste of the tax of the people. .... expensive toys for military nerd.....
1doller1500won 11 months ago
for me it's same power?
hungerybear5 11 months ago
無人にすれば居住スペースがいらないからより多くの砲弾と燃料が積める。
あえて作るなら歩兵の避難場所としてだよな。
cyberterro 11 months ago
I'D RATHER CHOOSE THE CHALLENGER2 WHICH IS THE MOST FLAMBOYANT AND FASTEST TANK IN THE WORLD. MOREOVER IT CAN DISGUISE ITSELF IN ANY PLACE
EdinburghTiger 11 months ago
@EdinburghTiger can it disguise itself in my living room?
DESheffield2nd 11 months ago
@DESheffield2nd Top Gear producer would make it
EdinburghTiger 11 months ago
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LOLLL JAPS CANT DO SHIT U KNOW WHY?
KOREANS NEVER EVER HAVE FORGOTTEN ABOUT THE HISTORY.
LOOK AT JAPS THEY ARE NEVER EVER OR NEVER HAVE U FUCKING TROLLS NEED TO FUCK YOUR OWN MOM CUZ THATS WHAT JAPS DO U FUCKING SMALL DICKERS
MrHaroldrocks 1 year ago
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Japs go regret about what ur fucking ancestors did to USA
USA FUCKNIG SAVED UR LIVES BETCHES and please bro...
Japan got richer because of the war between Korea.
I FUCKING TRUELY HATE JAP MONKEYS THEY ARE FUCKING BASTARDS
MrHaroldrocks 1 year ago
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every country in asia + russia hates japan
only thing good japan ever did was make the metal gear solid franchise and the ps3
AS a south korean, i hate the japs,
plus s. korea is stronger today than japan.
MsTheTerminator 1 year ago
made in koera
atmark666 1 year ago
ONE and ONLY america's mistake: they didn't nuke Tokyo. lol
u fuking monkeys need to STFU.
Metzeni 1 year ago
stop the hate -_- japan and korea are allies now. They have moved on from ww2
kazzemg 1 year ago
@kazzemg fuck that
Kleeeenex1 11 months ago
@kazzemg /for get the holocaust and put behide the nazis
kwonneon 11 months ago
you take note of the good things done during the period, such as the economic development of 3.5%. But that's not significant compared to the 10~11% of the 1970s. extensive railroad projects were undertaken simply because you needed means of transporting war material to Manchuria. A university was built, but then, mostly Japanese living in Korea were allowed to attend it.
Everything was done to integrate Korean economy into that of Japan.
how can you proudly say "we worked for Korea's benefit"?
2009xellos 1 year ago
I have one comment for the Japanese and Korean gentlemen argueing on this Matter!
CHINA!
Greetings from the USA.
calrenman 1 year ago
You are military savyys
mrteemumilto 1 year ago
stupid japs stfu!!
kpopishh67 1 year ago
japs like to comparing stuff with korean ALWAYS.... shame on you japs..
TheFreshmeat31 1 year ago
@TheFreshmeat31 Zip it, gook. Koreans are pathetic cowards. What happened after WWII? Why don't you fuckbags ever talk about the events written in "So Far From The Bamboo Grove"? Pathetic cowards raping innocent Japanese women and children after the war. You guys are worthless.
gyaradosgengar 1 year ago
@gyaradosgengar shut the hell up you fucking Jokkbbari.. you guys are just a thieves who stealing korean and chinese tradition. you fucking japs are shit culture which cut off people's head.. Japs are just midget WAENOM always making Pornographic..
TheFreshmeat31 1 year ago
@TheFreshmeat31 I'm telling you to shut your jaw crack. You guys are the despicable hypocrites that try to deny your own war atrocities. Vietnam war? Post WWII? You're the cruel faggots that slaughtered and murdered innocent women and children. Japanese don't have shit culture, Japanese culture is the richest in the world, and Koreans are the ones who stole from Japanese and Chinese culture. Just look at the hanbok, like a rip-off of the yukata. Be thankful Japan saved you ingrates from poverty!
gyaradosgengar 1 year ago
@gyaradosgengar whatever bitch... be thankful North Korean not using Nuke on Tokyo or Hiroshima LOL..
TheFreshmeat31 1 year ago
@TheFreshmeat31 Nah, you're the bitch. North Korea hates you guys too. Funny how you suck up to the communist pricks, while they murder your innocent civilians. Korean pride my ass.
gyaradosgengar 1 year ago
@TheFreshmeat31 LOOOOL hiroshima+ Nagasaki only time a atomic weapon has ever been used HAHAHAHAA
JAPPSSS
mehrong69 1 year ago
@gyaradosgengar And furthermore, I'm sick of the pathetic argument, "Korea also killed people in the Vietnam War" - if I follow your reasoning, countries that were urged or forced by US to fight against communism in the Korean War to save democracy - namely Turkey, Columbia, Canada, Australia should be condemned in the same manner. HOW IS THAT even COMPARABLE to Japanese Imperialism, which crushed colonial movement by committing massacres in order to destroy another country's identity?
2009xellos 1 year ago
@gyaradosgengar Surely, you don't think Don Katsu (Pork Cutlet), Koroke (Croquette), Yakiniku (Bulgogi) originated in Japan?
Recently, North Korean military officials declared that if war does break out, NK will be seeking revenge on Japan at the same time - Japanese government announced that they'd be sending special forces to rescue Japanese living in Korea, NK viewed this as an "attempt to continue on with their Imperialist ambition".
2009xellos 1 year ago
@gyaradosgengar Again, you Japanese "copy and claim" things as your own. Ever heard of Kimuchi? Wonder where it originated in the first place? You'll be surprised by how much cultural influence Yamato received from Baekjae.
2009xellos 1 year ago
K1A1 tanks are the current South Korean main battle tanks, not any of these
2009xellos 1 year ago
But XK2 is 9t heavier. A recoil does not matter because the computer can compensate that. Rather choose XK2. They both have 120mm cannon but lets see side arms. XK2 with 12.7mm K6 machine gun and 7.62mm. Type 10 12.5mm M2. XK2 1500hp, Type 10 1200hp. Its light weight means a bit fail in defence. And look how expensive that thing is compare to XK2.. End of story.
yuriyuri92 1 year ago
일본탱크 앞바퀴, 땅바닥에 철사로 고정시켜 놓았다...속임수?
Japanese tanks front wheel, was fixed to the ground wire ... cheating?
日本のタンク前輪、地面に針金で固定して置いた...詐欺？
rnqjsdkdlel 1 year ago
@rnqjsdkdlel 日本はわざわざそんなことはしない。中国や韓国と一緒にするな！！！
Go5103To 1 year ago 2
japan is in the perfect quality of all product period.
MOSKEY13TH 1 year ago
LOL they're both shit. We can fuck them up any time.
ITrollGooks 1 year ago
You must like garlic when you drive Korean tanks.
iwaimasue 1 year ago
@iwaimasue Maybe true, but it tastes all so good. Mmm, garlic...the herb of life. Besides dude, it always stink in turret even if you don't eat garlic.
resolute123 8 months ago
The thing is these two tanks will never face in battle. So whats the point of comparing these two tanks??? The difference in suspension can not be judged just by the video. The role of the suspension is for maneuvering, not stationary firing. The recoil is not a problem for the computer in the tanks to compensate (notice the gun keeps pointing at the target). And you have to remember the fact that the KX2 is 9 tones heavier then Type10. a difference is inevitable.
Tasitor 1 year ago
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일본탱크 앞바퀴, 땅바닥에 철사로 고정시켜 놓았다...속임수?
Japanese tanks front wheel, was fixed to the ground wire ... cheating?
日本のタンク前輪、地面に針金で固定して置いた...詐欺？
rnqjsdkdlel 1 year ago
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rnqjsdkdlel 1 year ago
While I think both tanks are equally awesome in their own respects, I'm going to side with the Japanese on the technology front. Why? Well, which of the two countries have launched TWO lunar probes successfully? (Hint: It starts with 'J')
But, I digress as this is almost irrelevant to the actual debate between the tanks.
AceWombatZero 1 year ago
I hope not to break out a war between Japan and Korea...
ono108 1 year ago
XK-2 is better than type-10
XK-2's suspension system is best in the world.
can12gundogan 1 year ago
i know japanese navy is much stronger than korea's. airforce is pretty much no difference. However japanese army sucks. korea's army is rank 3 in the world.
WingedCity01 1 year ago
@WingedCity01 Japan, the most technologically advanced nation in the world, hampered only by it's military restrictions, can and would be the most powerful nation. Even till this day, some of the best scientists and soldiers are Japanese so if war ever broke out, Japan would win.
gyaradosgengar 1 year ago
@gyaradosgengar I wish I liked Japan, but the way you Japanese act on youtube isn't impressive - I know Japanese prime ministers have apologized several times in the past, but you honour your ancestors who brought about the disaster, at the same time.
My own grandmother was forced to speak Japanese at school, and still knows quite a bit of it. now you Japanese are telling us you promoted the use of Hangul? put yourselves in our shoes and think about these things.
2009xellos 1 year ago
Suck my ass Jjok Bbal Ree
son3612 1 year ago
I'll take the Japanese any time. As you can see it doesn't swing after the shot, the active suspension dampens the oscillation immediately. Add the hydraulic continuously variable transmission, 10 tons less and all the electronic gadgets of Type 90 (including the ability of several tanks to shoot simultaneously on the same target) and you'll have a winner. (Un)fortunately Japan doesn't export weapons!
r8wing 1 year ago
XK-2 (Black Panther) Rules.
realsixx 1 year ago
No need to compare this two country because US owned them :D
BMAMBM 1 year ago
KOrean piece of shit XD japan is n2 GDp for a reason while korea is 14. Were pwning u korean dumbfucks lol
kazzemg 1 year ago
@kazzemg oh yeah? i don't think japanese can say that looking at their own economy. korea is leading japan in economic efficiency
WingedCity01 1 year ago
You know, Why is nobody looking at the barrel of the cannon?
apparently, even wirelocked, it is so unstable at the fire.
So let's say you have better(wirelocked!) suspension.
what's the use if you can't hit the other tank?
pjh3228 1 year ago
Suspension of the K2 allows it to kneel stand up, etc allowing it to increase or decrease angle of fire. That is a much more superior suspension than active suspension. Not like in the stupid biased video.
Xmk2123 1 year ago
And BTW for the retard saying koreans do not have the technology to make this, Koreans already surpassed japanese in electronics many years ago. So don't get wrapped up in ur stupid ego. We now EXPORT technology to japan.
Xmk2123 1 year ago
So in conclusion tanks with smaller gun so has lower recoil is better. ROFL you japs are so funny. compare what you can compare with. k2 and t10 is classified in a different category. ps u do not compare 44t tanks with 56ton tanks. It is just absurd. k2 has all those 'high tech' stuff u mentioned above+ modular armor, active hydropeunomic suspension, KSTAM with ranges up to 8km, l55 made by WIA, commander and gunner's separate sights, active defence system etc etc
Xmk2123 1 year ago
both not leopard 2A6/7 best
tarmacbulldog 1 year ago
both not leopard 2A6/7 best
tarmacbulldog 1 year ago
Will too pick i need other basic facts, cannon, armor in HR armor, range, top speeds.
starknight97 1 year ago
In ANY aspect, type10 is superior to K2.
Korea does not have tech to produce the first class tank.
K2 cannot even run due to the engine trouble, it cannot be called tank.
arstriker 1 year ago
@arstriker the k2 for sure a first class tank. reasons best western gun in the German l55 120mm cannon, She can flatten her treads out when waiting too ambush as too be a harder target. The reason she never rates high is her armor never been rated as of yet designed after the leopard 2a6 in that respect and that the leo week spot as well. Yet the type 10 also has no armor rating yet so the Arjun looks better so far.
starknight97 1 year ago
@starknight97 K2 cannot be a first class tank because it cannot even run. And you dont know anything about type 10. Type 10's armor is one of the most advanced armor in the world and it's gun is a new l44 120mm gun which is not a german l44.
arstriker 1 year ago
@arstriker All tanks go though this look at Arjun or the leopard 2 and m1 prototype. Which is the same by the way. K the type 10 a new prototype armor which i been working with and it has a ton a problems with the Nano-crystal steel. As it super strong it also poor against heat. so as it with crush, bounce penetrators well. a at-11 with a tandem and focus blast should cut though easier.The armor has too prove it self first. l44 120mm looks weak in the gun area this is the m1a2 main problem now.
starknight97 1 year ago
@starknight97 When Japan had developed type90, the US commissioned to offer armor tech, but it was declined. Now, Japan have the tech which achieves the equal defense potential in the weight of the 30% of type90's armor, and it's said that type10's armor is strong for CE such as heat, too.
And type10's l44 120mm is a gun of new development which is different from german l44 gun such as m1a2's. You should think about why type10 did not adopt german l55, but adopt new l44.
arstriker 1 year ago
@arstriker what armor tech do we have too offer lol. we use a brit tech on our own tank then add the most expensive metals in the world DU added to it. The Brits use a type 2 version that is just as good as ours with the DU mesh though in the seps this is a alloy now. if they turned down Chobham Level 2/Dorchester. they are dumb then. as the Nano-crystal steel also has a composite mean they could have had the best both. still a l44 is gonna be a slower round not enough too penetrate new armors.
starknight97 1 year ago
@arstriker now as far as Nano-crystal steel and heat it just a fact of life they weaker too heat in general as you lose your crystal aliment when heated. Most modern western armors are stronger too heat rounds the sabots. Case in point the frontal turret on a m1a2sep is almost 1600 mm RH vs heat but only 1000mm vs Tu Sabots.
starknight97 1 year ago
@starknight97 In general, a weak armor to heat is improper as the armor of the tank.
In the bullet-proof exam of type90, it endured for several apfsds and heat from close-in.
arstriker 1 year ago
@arstriker Just fact you trade 1 for the other. Now Nano-crystal armor with a advanced era like the Russia Kontakt-5. would take total effect on HE. and the Nano-crystal armor on the apfsds. Though if layering the composite too protect the Nano-crystal in sort your ceramic first. This help a lot but you'll lose that layer ever time on apfsds round hit. Though you still lose a layer each time if the right round hits at the right time..
starknight97 1 year ago
@arstriker i will say this though your tank looks very hopeful. As the u.s. 40ton FCS was canceled this tank look best too fill that role very low profile. Lighter easier to transport and deploy. Perfect for delay and guard maneuvers for the XM1203. Though I'd love too have seen more fire power though you can off set this. Talk too Israel Aerospace Industries and get the LAHAT. This will off set the fire power loss of a l55 and give you more range. After all the m1a3 not looking much better.