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  • Too bad it's fucking broken in game.

  • "We're going to show you a neat thing?" Don't you mean "We're going to show you a Nito thing?"

    ba-dum-tssh

  • @darkdude000 lmao

  • Bout damned time DS RULES !!!!

  • Play Offline sloves this pain up the Rear''

  • @mars188 or stay hollow,they can't invade you if your hollow.

  • @theonlydudeyouneed Good Point''

  • Why dont you make it so darn Hard to beat that you Cant. that way noo one can enjoy if that is your Goal seems to be with the soul Games'''

  • @mars188 I don't know, I've completed the game playing online.

    Wasn't as hard as some games.

  • @jjrudki 10 people beat the game out of 200000

  • @mars188 Actually, from what I can tell on the gameFAQ's boards, tons of people have completed it. It isn't that hard, it's just punishing if you play badly.

  • @jjrudki well show me the proof like trophies'' proof of beating the game

  • @mars188 My PSN is Psychodrake. I have the "To Link the Fires" ending and the trophy to show for it. I have almost completed it again on NG+.

  • @jjrudki Plus alot of people just give up due to the fact its not worth all the headachs check the boards on that'' sure you have Die-Hard Fans that will Run Naked through a snow storm to buy the game''

  • @mars188 The people who give up are the people being punished for bad play.

  • @jjrudki Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Sure''

  • @mars188 Sen's fortress was incredibly easy. Did you try and sprint through the whole thing?

  • @jjrudki Yeah i took off my clothes naked in the game and tryed to streak through sens fort.

  • @jjrudki You miss all of the loot if you do that... not to mention souls. Place is a soulmine for how early you access it.

  • @jjrudki Like Sen''s Fortress Game-Play right out of 1992 Castlevania Thats not Fun just Nuts

  • @jjrudki Like Castlevania 3 If i want Gameplay like this might as well Hook up my NES Back up and go back in Time'' Haaaaaa

  • @jjrudki I've completed in 3 times on my main SL180, and i have made a pvp 2 days ago which is rank 50 in book of guilty, it's not as hard as people make out, some japanese dude completed the entire game in 1 hour 30 mins

  • @TheCsukar Tell that to mars188. He seems fairly convinced the game is impossible.

  • @jjrudki Well go buy yourself Lunch''

  • where do i find that item?

  • is knight better then warrior can some one tell me

  • @Amaterasu100able Warrior is better as you get better stats for melee and movement. Knight is basically a stand and take it type of guy and you cant do backstabs as easily.

  • @slayingdaimon thanks

  • @slayingdaimon actially Knight has more endurance...more endurance=better movement. in the end it does not matter. get enough STR and DEX to use the weapon you want, put the rest into Vitality and endurance unless you want to be a caster or priest class. Weapon scaling based on stats is terrible in this game and the best weapons in the end (confirmed by cheaters at max level) are lightning weapons, even better than S scaling items

  • @Kougeru I just meant that the warrior has more flexibility, lighter armor, and better starting weapons. I know that leveling up beyond certain points is pointless but the best weapons in the game for me are the ring of fog and homing crystal mass but its more of a play-style thing.

  • lol... i got fked with this once... lost my bondfires =.=

  • this is why i play offline if i wanna make progress

  • It really doesn't make any sense how the Pyromancer gets affected by the dragons fire

  • how to unlock those characters, witch and black knight

  • @MikkiZHskDK You dont start out as them, you get their stuff from covenants.

    You become a black knight by joining the darkwraith covenant and getting to rank 2.

    You become a witch in Chaos Covenant?

  • @ZaketoX2 okay thanks a very stupid questions, but , what is covenant and where to find it ;)?

  • @MikkiZHskDK Covenants are factions that you join.

    :[ sorry but I dont know where those two are Im not very far yet

  • dark soul's Company is just thinking of another way to be even a bigger dick than the last game LOL!

  • It affects 3 peoples worlds now. So if you use this, expect 3 people invading.

  • gravelord sounds so much fun invoke that shit in my world and ill send your ass pacing like everyone else who invades. BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!

  • That doesn't look like a death eye, where do I get that glowing orange object he uses to summon the ability?

  • @kester13 you have to become a gravelord to do it, its a coven you join

  • not pyromancer specific.

    covenant specific.

    also if you happen to die while affected by a Gravelord, you loose 1/2 the souls you are carrying

    reward: Lich Form.

  • @TheJerryOB Do you know how to actually activate the ability cuz hell if i know and im part of the covenant.

  • @TheJerryOB Yeah, sorry  I forgot to mention that, seemed kinda obvious given the video..

  • not trying to hate on this game its just my personal opinion

  • seems to much like a hack slash and crawl this ability just makes it more annoying than a hack slash and crawl generally seems to be

  • Turns off PSN or Live plays offline. All better :D

  • @Sharigin i agree idk why ppl complain so much about the BP invading there world when they could just play offline if they dont like it but i like a challenge :3 so i play Online

  • who likes boobs thumbs up IF NOT you are gay OR just a woman

  • @cheathunter100 what if you're a gay woman? didn't think about that did ya?

  • ok heres how it goes...

    the ability of the gravelord comes from gravelord nito, "Lawful Evil". You place the sign on the ground, and that sign appears in 3 random players games. If the victim player is killed while ttheir world is infected their bloodstains souls that are dropped are halved. in order to stop the curse the victims must find the sign and invade the gravelord users world and slay him. the souls the gravelord gather go to nito and he rewards you, eventually turning you into a Lich.

  • lol at all the people that think this is a bad idea u guys obviously have never played the old classic games for super nintendo thats when gaming was at its best it actually took skill to beat unlike most of the games today were it just takes 4-6 hours to beat

  • @justinlane22492 ok heres how it goes...

    the ability of the gravelord comes from gravelord nito, "Lawful Evil". You place the sign on the ground, and that sign appears in 3 random players games. If the victim player is killed while ttheir world is infected their bloodstains souls that dropped are halved. to stop the curse the victims must find the sign and invade the gravelord users world and slay him. the souls the gravelord gather go to nito and he rewards you, eventually with Lich Form.

  • So not only is this game very difficult but players can make it harder for others with a push of a button?

    Sorry, but that's a terrible idea.

  • @JackEveringham No it isn't, you can always run away if you wish or simply go offline...

  • @zzzIdividedbyzerozzz ok heres how it goes...

    the ability of the gravelord comes from gravelord nito, "Lawful Evil". You place the sign on the ground, and that sign appears in 3 random players games. If the victim player is killed while ttheir world is infected their bloodstains souls that dropped are halved. to stop the curse the victims must find the sign and invade the gravelord users world and slay him. the souls the gravelord gather go to nito and he rewards you, eventually with Lich Form.

  • form what I read this is actually an ability not for Pyromancer but any class who make oath with Gravelord! And for players whoever got your curse can invade "YOU WORLD" and kill you to end the effect... So is really more of a provoke ability for people likes pvp.

  • @hoosiers8282 * blows you a kiss* I love you.

  • @hoosiers8282 HELLO KITTY ADVENTURES!

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  • At first I thought this was just a ridiculous annoyance we're gunna have to deal with but then I realized that's just the soft pussy in me speaking. Games have gotten easier and easier as if the rule is to make everyone happy and casual. Fuck that bullshit, go play hello kitty adventures with butters. Real games should make you want to kill yourself.

  • the name of this spell should be: Magic Trolling =], i like it

  • I am having so much trouble picking Sorcerer or Pyromancer ^ ^ anyone got any details on their differences or what they are like in detail? Gravelord looks like a fun ability to use as well lol.

  • @peanuts846

    I did some research too; I'll start with Sorcerer.

    1 - Every class can learn every Sorcerer spells, but require INT to learn them (Final spell require 50 INT)

    2 - All Sorcerer spell dmg based on INT, (some magical melee weapon dmg scale with INT as well if not all of them)

    3 - Except direct attacking spell, Sorcerer also have spells such as weapon/shield enhancement, self/weapon invisible, gears repair etc...

    Conclusion: variety of spells, require INT and Attunement.

  • @peanuts846

    Pyromancer:

    1 – Every class can learn every Pyromancer's spells, and require only slot to equipment them.

    2 – So far still no idea what helps increase Pyromancer's spells dmg.

    3 – Two self enhancement spell (Defence/resistance UP, Movement down with Str/Endurance UP, HP lose within time), one Fire resistance spell, the rest is all fire+fire+ fire and poison.

    Conclusion: Nuking focuses, more available attribute (only require Attunement)

  • @Zenaku222 excuse me, are you sure that other classes can learn Sorcerer and Pyromancer 's magic ? Thank you

  • @ScienceBalance

    That's the info i found, this isn't like diablo once you pick a class and your skill are limited. The differences between each class are their starting attribute and fighting style, you can turn a mage into a warrior or other way around if you like (that would waste some attribute but yes is possible)

  • @ScienceBalance It sounds like starting class are pointless, but that is not 100% true. For example you just want to make caster with magic spells. Yes all class can do that, but since you will need a lot Attunement and INT, none of the class can compete with Sorcerer due to their low starting Attunement or INT or both. But if you want to make a magical warrior then the except Cleric all other class can be your pick. PS: I notice high Dex class with decent INT, high Str with decent Faith.

  • @Zenaku222 i was trying to finish rogue or wander in Demon's Souls, but due to my noob, i failed.

    Therefore i was trying to play Pyromancer or Warrior in Dark Souls, while seeing my cousin finish the game though Knight, it looks pretty strong. So i considered to play Warrior in Dark Souls, but Pyromancer looks cool. Any ideas on it ? Thanks

  • @ScienceBalance If i were you I first create a warrior then boost a few Attunement and buy the whatever spell of Pyromancer that looks cool. hey it "might" sux overall, but at least I'm satisfied. I personal don't like everyone going for the same build just because its strong not because we enjoy it. Beside even if it sucked it gives you a better idea when you create your next character, no one gets the perfect build at first time.

  • @Zenaku222 okay, I'll see. Anyway, thanks for your suggestion.

    If you don't mind, can i have your ps 3 id ? Once dark souls released, i will add you although i can only play in weekends.

  • @ScienceBalance ok heres how it goes...

    the ability of the gravelord comes from gravelord nito, "Lawful Evil". You place the sign on the ground, and that sign appears in 3 random players games. If the victim player is killed while ttheir world is infected their bloodstains souls that dropped are halved. to stop the curse the victims must find the sign and invade the gravelord users world and slay him. the souls the gravelord gather go to nito and he rewards you, eventually with Lich Form.

  • Also -- there's different covenants that directly combat Nito's: members of one covenent will actively hunt down members of Nito's covenant to gain humanity, while members of another covenant can "report" invaders by putting their names into a "book", allowing previously stated covenant the grounds by which to invade followers of Nito.

  • Gravelord is an ability given to you by Nito's covenant; not just anyone can use it. There's also risks involved -- while you're infecting three other people's worlds, they can at any time find where you placed the Gravelord item, and if they're all quick enough, can all invade "you" at once, pitting three of the griefed against the griefer. I think it's incentivized by giving you humanity when you use Gravelord, but I'm not entirely certain.

  • @F0rr0r Now that sounds like a good time!

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  • Disperse, loyal battle monkeys! Do my bidding and bust a cap!

  • I'll probably end up picking the pyromancer since his stats are average compared to every other class and he only starts at lvl 1 so more customizing like the royal class in demons and also like the fact that I can make pvp happen more often

  •  ok thats fuck up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • omg if i find a graveloard in my game ima go apeshit on the person add me peoples psn is C_H-UCKY

  • He says Brondon like it was a question lol

  • It's kinda like trolling/challenging someone to come and kill you

  • Ugh... I can just see it now "Troller78 Invoked the Gravelord in the area" and in the bottom right corner "Haha your fucked now"

  • 43 people are just call of duty fanboys :p

  • This offers more depth and RPG element bitches. You can RPG good by laying down green signs and great heals across worlds, this allow you to RPG evil Crying & saying that it free grieving is wrong, be damn sure that once a good player finds that Gravelord sign they're coming to kill the Pyromancer player. A fun give and take for the players on both ends. Video says "you don't get anything for doing this THAT THEY'ER TALKING ABOUT AT THE MOMENT" means there is something to gain yet to be revealed

  • Ahhh. So the gravelord gets placed in your world at random. So just kill him and no more added enemies. People are overreacting. If you can't handle challenge, don't buy the game. Exellent idea, From software and producers

  • Lol at all of the dislikes and negativity towards the gravelord ability. Think of it like this, once you've beaten the whole game and know all of the enemies and how to defeat them, wouldn't it be exciting to have new enemies added to your world?

    You now have to option to kill the new enemies, kill the gravelord enemy, or invade the player that sent it and kill him. Keeps things fresh.

  • @phoenixparadox88 This sounded pretty stupid to me at first. An ability put into the game just to 'grief' people? They said it themselves. However, if you can invade other players, such as the one that set the gravelord, that makes it awesome. I really hope this game isn't all so much hack and slash that is compromises the ability to be skillful.

  • @IntricateDolphin to tell the the truth its not really griefing players because they do have events like the Halloween event were BP (not players.. NPC) are more active an comes up more. also this game is meant to be CHALLENGING... not an easy breeze it test ur skills of survivability against, enemys and players when they invade ur world. but they said this ability has a draw back all 3 players that were invoked by the gravelord can invade ur world an kill u

  • @IntricateDolphin Not kill u the gravelord i mean not really sure. im going to be in the covenant of the blades of the darkmoon. plus if u dont like being attacked by players then dont play online simple as that.

  • @IntricateDolphin theres an item in the game that makes the "griefing" happen more towards the players who have invaded other worlds, so if you're just minding your own business, your chances of getting bum rushed are pretty slim. I didn't want to spoil too much so i left out some details

  • @phoenixparadox88 He didn't say it would wait until after you beat the game to take affect, and there should be a big complaint against it as only one class can do it. other wise I agree with you it would be great to have those options. It looks like they have different classes, the dark knight for example do those open on the second play through or is this the asian version?

  • @phoenixparadox88 Ignore the last question I see the answear below.

  • so basically just troll other people for absolutly nothing! these guys have some trolling issues

  • More enemies=More loot/souls, right? BRING IT ON....I kick azz in PvE in Demon's Souls......Do ur worst...

  • Continuing from where i left off, the Gravelord himself will be summoned to your world or you will have to find the sign left by the Gravelord user and invade his world. if the Gravelord is summoned to your world all you would have to do is find him and kill him and added enemies would be eliminated. Now, if you have to hunt down the sign and invade, you will have 2 other players doing the same thing and the Gravelord user will face against 3 Black Phantoms

  • @Crazycakebaker Interesting...

  • @Crazycakebaker lol that will be so epic, as long as everyone isnt a douche about it, its prety unique and exciting

  • To everyone saying the Gravelord feature is going to be annoying, frustrating, and will even ruin the multiplayer experience, look at it on a entirely different perspectictive. The Pyromancer will use the Gravelord to summon enemies to 3 other player's worlds making it difficult, not impossible, and that is what Demons Souls was: difficult, not impossible. Now, I've read on multiple different websites that the Gravelord himself will be summoned to your world or you will have the find the sign

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  • how the fudge are you suppose to find a random sign in your world? unless they are going to close it off like in demon souls.

  • This feature is simply evil. So, I'm going to spawn a foe to torment another player's campaign just because... This will only be worthwhile if they always the victim to send a gravelord back to the specific player.

  • Man... I want to see some co-op gamplay! :(

  • @OneHundredProblems co-op in demons souls / dark souls = singleplayer , what will you see?!?!?!??!?!

  • when ever i soul farmed in demon souls and someone invaded me i went offline

  • @Thenitrohawk64 I always get angry messages from the invader whenever I do that.

  • Bring it on! Lvl 712 Royal.

  • So that item spawns a gravelord in someone elses world, and then if they don't kill the gravelord it will be harder for them to finish the world? ... sound weird.

  • This sounds like a real dick move.

  • Time to trololololol.

  • I going to defeat all the bosses without help. I did it in Demon's Souls and it was more challenging, rewarding and fun. Also, when I killed false king, I was fucking happy.

  • YES i love that idea i hope you all try to infect my world i will MURDER ALL OF YOU!

  • wtf? take this bullshit out

  • @nightmare1st wtf? stop being a candy-ass

  • Idk why there are so many pussies saying they'll just play offline. The community, trolling, invading, co-op is such a massive part of the game.

  • I am very excited for this game.

  • Wow, this ability is idiotic. Cheapens the game. GODDAMNIT, STICK TO THE DEMON'S SOULS FORMULA, DON'T TRY TO BE SMART.

    I swear, I'm starting to believe what many said was true, that SCEJ was the real brain behind Demon's Souls.

  • @TheJaosobno

    i agree.

    you dont recieve anything from useing the Gravelord.

    its retarted

  • GASP!!! How dare they add challenge to a game.

  • @Bossmanlogan

    That's not challenge; it's griefing / trolling...

    Speaking of which, demon soul fanboys are some of the most antagonising asshats I have ever met (not all of them, but still...), they can potentially ruined the entire game for u: by invading ur world and killing off vital NPCs. There are ways to overcome this problem but that doesn't lessen the sillines of the feature...

    no doubt , griefers will luv this piece of news....

  • @melvinthedeathless

    ....

    So you're saying you don't like challenge.

  • @Bossmanlogan

    So players disrupting ur campaign experience in an extremely destructive (potentially game-ruining) manner is considered "challenge" and not griefing ?

  • @melvinthedeathless

    Play offline. Means less bitches online.

  • @Bossmanlogan Or play on eu servers.

  • @DeathToRaiden1. Awww, someone doesn't know how too deal with a scraping spear?? Poor baby.

    Go slit your wrists, play offline, or blow your uncle. Active npcs equals epicness. Trolololz ftw.

  • @Str8Murder

    Yet another fool that mistakes "poor balance" as a form of "challenge".

  • All the people are complaining about with this feature they will only play offline or not purchase the game at all. I agree it could be annoying if it happens, but you just deal with it. Its part of the game.

  • it seems like they classes really legit. as in you can't have a barbarian that can do magician spells.

  • TO the people saying Gravelord is useless becuase it offers no benefit: Its is far from useless. The biggest problem I had with Demon's Souls was the lack of reward for invading as a black phantom.

    Now with Gravelord (and hopefully other abilities like it) you essentially force other players to invade you so they can progress in their game. This promotes PvP and adds to the frequency you will interact with other players online.

  • dont yall think that there should be a way to counter the gravelord? shouldnt we have like a paladin or something? another character that has similar ablilites, but used for good. i think that the first couple of weeks are gonna suck because everyone is gonna be pyromancer and theres gonna be gravestones everywhere. what do yall think?

  • @TATELANDDOG u can kill the person that sent the gravelord

  • You can't put stuff there just for the sake of griefing, you have to make it worth something. Otherwise it will end up as something that only douches and trolls do, it will be hated by the community.

  • @DeathtoRaiden1 the gravelord is basically a pvp invitation. YOU CAN KILL THE PERSON THAT SENT IT!!!!! if ur really too much a bitch to deal with it just turn off your wi-fi problem solved

  • @zenosuke14

    You're an idiot, watch and see as the gravelord turns in to this game's Scraping Spear.

  • Yay!

  • there better be more than 50 more weapon and armor there.....

  • This... sounds like a mistake. Demon's souls gave no disadvantages nor advantages other than original stats. Giving individual abilities may add some detail to characterization, but gravelording sounds relatively worthless.

  • Oh, the beauty of the offline adventure.

  • @AndJusticeForMe bitch move :/

    

  • @SamiTsomidis The real bitch move was your mother squirting you out of her sloppy and well-used vagina.

  • @AndJusticeForMe awwww did i piss you off little bitch? :( you need to calm the fuck down and stop being so defensive, and when you fail at doing that you should try growing a decent pair of balls.

  • @SamiTsomidis Hey, you talk smack, I talk smack. That's kinda how it works. Perhaps I did come down a little hard on your mother though. After all, she does offer the cheapest blowjobs in town.

  • @AndJusticeForMe awww the little bitch has more mom jokes, how cute xD your mother raised you so well :) and you're so mature

  • @SamiTsomidis I love you. Can I play with your balloon knot?

  • @AndJusticeForMe How cheap?

  • @AndJusticeForMe

    Ah the beauty of missing out on half of the game's content.

  • @DeathtoRaiden1 Half the game's content? Don't exaggerate. The reason the majority of people play online anyway is just so they can have other people help their noob asses out. The real test is playing offline; you can only rely on yourself.

  • @AndJusticeForMe i agree with you on that, i prefer the game offline but the problem i have with it is the world tendency. there is so much in that game that i havent experienced because of world tendencys, the only way i know to get to white is to help blue phantoms. hopefully is dark souls the world tendency is better laid out for noobs such as myself. UP THE IRONS FROM LOUISIANA

  • @AndJusticeForMe GOOD LUCK W/O CO-OP

  • I hope the devolopers listen to the community

  • Sounds... "intristing", but I don't know, ain't really sure about it though.

  • i can't wait for people who think they're griefing ME when they use this on me. oh they will be surprised... :3

  • this sounds AWESOME!!

  • so its kinda like giving a random person around the world a virtual kick to the balls... not sounding fun

  • gravelord sounds like a really annoying feature

  • lol bolaire of astora - ostrava of bolateria

  • Although I like the overall concept of this game, I'm a bit concerned about this new feature, it just seems to add difficulty without any reason, why would I want to make someone's playthrough frustrating without even being rewarded for that? It just seems pointless. I agree with the whole idea of making dark souls more difficult than Demon's souls, but please don't make it stupid hard.

  • @Tasoslive2 What would be cool though, would be to actually be transferred into the victim's world (universe) and try to hide the Gravelord into a specific place in the level (different each time) without being killed by the "host", and get some kind of reward for doing that :P

  • Trolololololo...

  • I bet over 50% of players are now gonna pick this class jus to infect other gamers, an please believe I welcome it more souls for me cuz ima beast I jus hope thy have a wanderer thts who I was on demon souls~ scarboni88

  • @350plus

    keep in mind, they may not get this spell at the beginning.

  • so you press a button and it makes some random guys world harder...what the mother fuck is cool about that?