Thank-you obamaunderground for showing all these videos on you tube. Thank-you pastor steve foss for your info also. Obama is hiding to much. To many questions are not being answered. American people wakeup and hear what your heart is saying to you. Obama has only been U.S. Senator for 4 years. We need to get to know him better before he becomes president.
"Whomever Allah wants to deceive you cannot help.Allah does not want them to know the truth because he intends to disgrace them and then torture them".Qur'an 5:41
funny how the LA Times, a surrogate for Obama, while thinking that they are helping the campaign by not allowing access to the tape, are actually hurting it.
I heard a group of children danced the Muslim beheading dance at that dinner hubhub27 Hussein applauded at the end and thats why they won't release it.
I have called and emailed LA Times. I will never again buy that newspaper. Everyone should cancell their subscription and demand their money back. These people need to be put out of business!
You now guys this is what I have been talking about for some time ow. This man is dangerous for us and the entire globe. We have to stop him now and this will end his run for the white house forever. I see a pattern here, he meets with these extrem people and no one is saying a word about this man. He sat is pastor Wright church for 20 years and with this guy that the LA Times is hold back from us is more scary than Wright! Let us get this message out guys, we have a few days left.
He is a well-respected Palestinian american. You might want to explain the nearly 500,000 dollors Mcliar gave to this man if you think he so bad. Hypocrites!!!
release the tape! This is very un american. The liberal and prejudice views you express is a mockery of our freedom of the press. May your liberal RAG you print go down with obama.
Are you crazy? He is a hate monger! Ayers is a domestic terrorist! They live in America and enjoy our freedoms though. Obama would not even be able to pass a background check for a security clearance and he is going to be our commander in chief? What a joke! Just so you know I am not a racist. I have friends of different races, nationalities and religions. I judge a person by their character not for what is on the outside. If Obama is elected I will truly be disappointed in my fellow Americans
It isn't that Khalidi is a Palestinian. Its the fact that he supported the PLO when they were a terrorists & that he tries to spread hatred of Israel. In fact, he was fired from a job 4 spreading hatred of Israel/Jews. We would hate an Israeli who tried doing the same thing to Palestinians. We do not like ppl who try 2 spread hatred. Anyway, this isn't the point. All news stations should report all sides of the news. This is vital to a free country & our news media has gotten way 2 one-sided
If Obama were not guilty in some fashion he would ask the LA Times to release that tape. He has something to hide and if he gets in I feel sorry for Isreal. Who else will come out of Obama's closet? Already we have him being a member of a racist, black liberation theology church, friends with two known terrorists... Nobama!!!
Obama never gave him 'personal money' either. The group was still one of Khalidi's, he didn't share different views for different groups, and Obama never funded ANY of his groups.
Release the tape, because this is whats troubling from the LA TIMES ARTICLE
A special tribute came from Khalidi's friend and frequent dinner companion, the young state Sen. Barack Obama. Speaking to the crowd, Obama reminisced about meals prepared by Khalidi's wife, Mona, and conversations that had challenged his thinking.
anyone who votes for obama is looking for a handout or they are dumb college kids who are "wet behind the ears" . pathetic. the guy was a us senator for like 150 days before he started running for pres. hes got no experience!
A 'natural-born' citizen is not a 'born-in-the-U.S.' citizen. Natural born means born in the U.S., OR born to a parent that is a U.S. citizen. His mother is a U.S. citizen, he could have been born anywhere and still be a natural-born U.S. citizen. You need to be a natural-born citizen to run for president, not a U.S.-born citizen. I'm surprised you didn't know something as simple as that.
During the 1990s, while he served as chairman of the International Republican Institute (IRI), McCain distributed several grants to the Palestinian research center co-founded by Khalidi, including one worth half a million dollars.A 1998 tax filing for the McCain-led group shows a $448,873 grant to Khalidi's Center for Palestine Research and Studies for work in the West Bank. The relationship extends back as far as 1993, when John McCain joined IRI as chairman in January
After the speech @ Berlin Obama got out of the shower & was drying off when he looked in the mirror & saw he was white from the neck up to the top of his head.
In panic & fearing he was turning white & might have to give up his hopes to be pres, he called his dr
The dr advised him to see him . After an exam the dr mixed a concoction of brown liquid for Obama, & told him to drink it all
Obama drank the concoction & replied, That tasted like bullshit
WHO IS BARRACK HUSSIEN OBAMA???? 1. Occidental College records -Not released 2. Columbia College records -Not released 3. Columbia Thesis Paper -Not available 4. Harvard College records -Not released 5. Selective Service Registration -Not released 6. Medical records -Not released 7. Illinois State Senate schedule "not available"
WHO IS BARRACK HUSSIEN OBAMA???? 1. Occidental College records -Not released 2. Columbia College records -Not released 3. Columbia Thesis Paper -Not available 4. Harvard College records -Not released 5. Selective Service Registration -Not released 6. Medical records -Not released 7. Illinois State Senate schedule "not available"
8. Law practice client list -Not released 9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -Not released 10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -Not released 11. Harvard Law Review articles published -None 12. University of Chicago scholarly articles -None 13. Record of baptism -Not released or "not available" 14. Illinois State Senate records "not available." WOULD YOU HIRE AN EMPLOYEE WHO W0ULDN'T DISCLOSE ANY OF THIS INFORMATION?? WHO IS BARRACK HUSSIEN OBAMA????
He is born in Kenya if he becomes President it will be UNCONSTITIONAL or do you even care about the law of the land anymore? If you don't the leave USA now!
A 'natural-born' citizen is not a 'born-in-the-U.S.' citizen. Natural born means born in the U.S., OR born to a parent that is a U.S. citizen. His mother is a U.S. citizen, he could have been born anywhere and still be a natural-born U.S. citizen. You need to be a natural-born U.S. citizen, not a U.S.-born citizen. I'm not surprised that you didn't even know something as simple as that.
8. Law practice client list -Not released 9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -Not released 10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -Not released 11. Harvard Law Review articles published -None 12. University of Chicago scholarly articles -None 13. Record of baptism -Not released or "not available" 14. Illinois State Senate records "not available." WOULD YOU HIRE AN EMPLOYEE WHO W0ULDN'T DISCLOSE ANY OF THIS INFORMATION?? WHO IS BARRACK HUSSIEN OBAMA????
if it weren't for the hatred and racism that this type of propaganda breeds this would be laughable. they won't release the tape because of a signed legal document. does that equate to secrecy? no! for the same reason sarah palin refused to release her medical records. nobody is talking about her husbands political affiliation to a party that is anti-american??? which leads me to believe that deep down, it's all about race. fear of the unknown. whitey afraid blackey gonna come get my money. lol!
McCain never attended racist church Obama did, 20 yrs at Trinity United McCains pastor never spewed hate against blacks Obamas pastor spewed hate against rich white Americans McCain never studied KKK philosophy Obama? Studied Dr.J.H.Cone, Black Power & Malcolm-X for 20 yrs McCain tortured 5.5 yrs Obama had splinter once McCain 26 yrs EXP in politics Obama? 143 DAYS EXP. McCain yrs of Foreign Affairs EXP. Obama? Prayed at Mosque w/stepdad in Indonesia. Obama socialist muslim Speaks Arabic
you republicants keep arguing about the relase of some tape. I cant RELEASE the tape but if youd like I can release my huge COCK from my pants. then you can RELEASE the receits from palins 150,000 shopping spree.
BOYNTON BEACH — Carol Anne Burger killed her former lover by stabbing her 222 times with a Phillips-head screwdriver and then took pains to hide her crime, police said Wednesday.
Jessica Kalish, who shared a house with Burger despite breaking up with her more than a year ago, was found last Thursday stuffed in the backseat of her gun-metal BMW sedan, abandoned behind a medical office at 2300 S. Congress Avenue.
Obummer. Socialists destroy economies by punishing job creators who they call "the rich" and rewarding welfare collectors who they call "the downtrodden". Watch for taxes to go up and services to go down. Then watch for them to pit people against each other (as has already happened) as they implement the Socialist "Divide and Conquer" tactics. In 4 years, you won't recognize your once-great nation.
LA times has confirmed the they hold the tape,but they refuse to release it to the public.Thats just hurting Obama more,cause fear of the unknown is many times greater than reality,people imagination runs wild,like OH my god it's so bad they won't release and stuff like that.
It's hurting Obama more not releasing it,it's gotten too big all over newspapers and blogs,and your letting people form own ideas whats on it,and those are proboly worse than reality of whats on it.
they are holding it because their article on this tape in the spring wasnt accurate, proving another rag ending with the word "times" is just that a rag. Great for wrapping fish
ThisAmerican1, you never question mccain over his pal gordon liddy who plotted to murder federal agents never showed remorse and contributed to mccain campaign,his chaired international republican institute put khalidi as one of its trustees[guilt by association is so important to mccain camp], another pal pastor hagee called catholicism a whore religion, pal sen.gramm deregulated trading on oil banking got oil to $150 per gallon, carly fiorina fired 25700 workers her pay jump 231%.
Ibrahim Abu Jayab has made his choice for 08, and has come out to campaign for the Messiah of the American Jews, Barack Hussein Obama.
I am Ibrahim Abu Jayab from the Gaza. I support Senator Obama from the Gaza Strip. I think that Senator Obama, he achieve peace in the world, and in my area.
Barack Obama is the most radical candidate ever to stand at the precipice of acquiring his partys presidential nomination is a member of an international socialist movement which hopes to use the United Nations(the African World Reparations and Repatriation Truth Commission) as a vehicle to shake down U.S. taxpayers for $777 trillions dollars in slavery reparations
If ObamACORN steals this election, the Cornholer-in-Chief will throw Israel under the bus.
The LA Times is covering for Obama.
No surprise there.
Just like the NYTimes is refusing to release the tape of Obama reciting the Muslim Shahada in perfect Arabic accent, after proclaiming that the Muslim call to prayer was "one of the prettiest sounds" on earth.
I wonder if Hollywood will enjoy Life under Sharia Law?
You also have the right to know that McCain knew Rashid Khalidi since 1993 and have funded his organization with OVER 1 million American Dollars.
watch?v=VbMfqhD-4Zw
It's said how hypocritical and desparate the McCain campaign has become. Whats worst? Giving a so called "terrorist" Money to purchase weapons (McCain) or being at the same function as this so called "terrorist" at a dinner function for a Chicago College?
This story is HUGE and I believe that there is going to be such national pressure on the LA Times, that they are going to have to release the tape or at least a transcript of it. I urge everyone who believes in truth in media and journalistic integrity to call the Times and cancel your subscription. If you have ads in that paper, then have those canceled as well. Hit 'em where it hurts!
Dont you instinctively know that there's something very damaging on this tape if the LA Times won't release it? Why is it that you people are more concerned with winning than in investigating the candidate whom you will vote for?
Can ANYONE honestly say that they think Obama LOVES America? Shouldn't our president LOVE his country? We're becoming stupid clones -- so blinded by attempts to get our own way and to "win" that we are dishonest about the truth and the pursuit of it!
This is the dumbest question in the world. What do you think Obama is running for? huh? This will probably be our first president in a bubble. Riding around in a Glass box like the Pope does when he comes to visit. He will need twice as much security as any other president because he is 10 times more like to have assassination attempts. He obviously cares! Who else would work so hard for a cause that puts his and his family's lives in danger?
Well, obviously you and I aren't seeing (or hearing) the same Barak Obama. My question of his love for our country is not a dumb one -- it's a crucial one that should be asked of ANY CANDIDATE! In fact, it's a question that you should be asking yourself everyday between now and Tuesday. It's a question that I can ask about John McCain and KNOW the answer is a resounding YES! I don't see, in Obama, a man who loves my country. No way. He's too into "talking" with the enemy and toasting them.
This guilt by association game is STUPID. They all have associations with people who may or may not have questionable pasts. McCain has served in the Senate with former KKK members, racists, etc.
This grasping at straws by the McCain camp is pathetic. He's as guilty of these associations as anyone else.
And I'll say it again...
McCain's International Republican Inst FUNDED Rashid Khalidi...I would say that is an association!!!
Talk about Guilt by Association, what about Todd Palin and the Alaska Independent Party wanting cession from the Union. Wanting no longer to be a part of the US. By today's definition they would be terrorists.
Palin's husband belonged to the group. She on several occasions attended the gatherings and spoke at their events. You can't get no guiltier than that!
Just another desperate and pathetic attempt from the McCain campaign to paint Obama as a terrorist.
McCain's International Republican Inst FUNDED Rashid Khalidi in the past!!! OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE!!!! GET PAST YOUR RACISM!!!
Obama is the only candidate who "gets" that middle America is HURTING. McCain is the elitist who has no idea what middle class people are going through. McCain's economic plan only helps the rich get richer.
Information has become cheap! Critical thinking has become.. likewise! So sad to see the company I work for (LA TIMES) become a bias media source. What a secular commie rag! No longer will be we respected as a news paper. with our nod for Obama, we just lost many readers ($). I cant believe Zell gave in and let money slip through his greedy hands.
McCain didn't pal around with him did he?? Obama's pal list is growing like weeds and the drive by's keep sweeping it under the damn rug, as always. Their God Obama can do no wrong can he??
He just dumped over 1 Million dollars in his lap. Thats more than paling around if you ask me. Obama attended a college function where the guy just so happened to be.
DO ANY OF YOU OBAMA-HATERS ACTUALLY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT KHALIDI? The man is a professor of Palestinian studies at COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY...does that mean Columbia "pals around with terrorists?" Truth is that JOHN MCCAIN gave 500,000 dollars to Khalidi's organization to study the socio-political patterns of Palestinians back in the 90's when he was chairman of a foreign relations board...Fox news just spews these "radical" names and associations and sees if they stick...then the neo-cons regurgitate
In the video with Obama at Rashid Khalidi's house, toasting the former PLO press director while anti-Israel comments fly about the room. Doug Ross, who talked to the LA writer, writes that Obama said at the party "Israel has no God-given right to occupy Palestine" "plus there's been genocide against the Palestinian people by Israelis" and everyone cheered...
I'll make the call in the morning and I just sent the video out to all contacts. I wish I believed it would help. Unfortunately, I think US media has completely sold out to the fascists and have pretty much facilitated a coup d`etat. Now we get to watch our nation taken to its knees.
Leave a message at the LA Times demanding that they release the Khalidi video, call 1-877-554-4000.
ENOUGH with the pro-Obama bias already!! This is undemocratic, unethical, unprofessional and violates every tenant of integrity and neutrality demanded by the media in mature democracies such as the United States... despite Obama, we are NOT the USSR yet (except for the liberals)!
In the video with Obama at Rashid Khalidi's house, toasting the former PLO press director while anti-Israel comments fly about the room. Doug Ross, who talked to the LA writer, writes that Obama said at the party "Israel has no God-given right to occupy Palestine" "plus there's been genocide against the Palestinian people by Israelis" and everyone cheered...
Oops! Now it turns out that when McCain was chairman of the IRI (International Republican Institute) they donated over $800,000 to an organization Khalidi helped found 15 years ago. The Center for Palestine Research and Studies. Maybe the LA Times was doing McCain a favor?
Are you people really this dumb? McCain has closer ties to Khalidi than Obama, actually funding him in fighting for Palestinian rights. Obama has no real ties to this guy. Another desperate, bullshit attack from the McCain campaign.
As a member of the media, I can tell you that newsrooms all over the country are working hard to get Obama elected. News organizations are extremely liberal and most CEO's and GM's feel that Obama's far left stance favors their agenda and benefits their organizations. The media is to report, act as a watchdog, and disseminate the news... NOT SUPPRESS IT!!!!! LA Times let us decide if the tape is newsworthy or not!!! Are you afraid the material on that tape shows America that Obama has lied?
The mainstream media died in 2008. The American people have a right to see the video tape. Amazing that an institution that is supposed to report the news is unwilling to allow the people to see it.
If people are still voting for Obama after this crap, they are totally anti-American and out of their minds. I - for one - only voted McCain/Palin '08! I gave Obama a chance, but he got a failing grade from me. I served in the U.S. Navy, and I am not about to vote a towel head, Black Liberation theologian into the Whitehouse. I'm disgusted that sheeple calling themselves "Americans" are even considering Obama as an option for Commander In Chief of the Armed Forces. Hero before Zero in my book!
John McCain gave several grants to Rashid Khalidi's Center for Palestine Research and Studies (CPRS), including a grant of $448,873 in 1998, while he chaired the International Republican Institute (McCain is still the chairmen of IRI). Here is IRI's 1998 tax returns:
abcnews dot c om/images/Politics/IRI% 20Form%20990%20-%201998 dot pdf
See grant number 5180, "West Bank: CPRS" on page 14. Yes, the "West Bank", in the Palestinian Territories.
Why does the LA times need to release the video? They were the ones that DISCLOSED the fact that they had it because they did a report on it 6 months ago!!! They told their source that they would not release it, and they're keeping to their word. The question you should really be asking is why is fox news drudging this up a few days before the election, instead of bring it up SIX MONTHS AGO when LA times reported that they had the video.. The answer isn't a hard one to figure out.
How many people are the right going to try to smear to win this election? It's becoming not only a joke, but a sadly run campaign. At least Obama has some tact and doesn't return the favor! He could bring up a lot of people and situations (Keating 5, G. Gordon Liddy, among others)- but is choosing to keep HIS word to run a more respectful campaign. McCain and Palin are desperate, as well as the rest of the right, and it shows. I almost feel bad for them...
Doesn't return the favor???!!!! What are you thinking...or not thinking....Obama is the man who said they were going to say..."oh by the way did you know he was black".....Great "tact" as you put it.
The rest of the REPS put together could NOT line up a bigger group of lying, immoral, corrupt, socialists than Barry has as his closest friends and advisors. Yeah, Barry is SO tactful. Where's his freaking Birth Certificate? Oh, I forgot, he "tactfully" went to HI to "visit his sick grandmother" and FORCED the Gov to seal it. He tacfully went on government expense to aid Odinga in destroying Kenya, he tactfully tried to destroy Middle America in the form of Joe the Plumber, the list goes on..
This does not surprise me at all! Obama is a wolf in sheep's clothing and any truth about him is going to hidden from the public at all cost's by the left wing media. We'll be left wondering how a terrorist got elected when it's all over. His followers are like zombies refusing to see the writing on the wall, I am disgusted in Americans that will put their country at risk just to spite republicans because they don't like what bush has done. God help our country if he is elected....
I emailed the LA Times. And shellius, you know if they had a tape of McCain with a PLO radical it would be all over the evening news. Doug Ross has written in his blog that he has talked with the LA Times writer and has seen a clip from the tape and here are the statements Obama said to rile the audience up during a toast. He congratulates Khalidi for his work saying "Israel has no God-given right to occupy Palestine" plus there's been "genocide against the Palestinian people by Israelis"
The LA Times will never release that tape, just like the FBI will never release the tape of the Pentagon crash on 911. They're afraid of THE TRUTH...
esgmydas 3 years ago
Too bad Nobamas grandma died. At least she will not have to face his loss of the white house
Never NObama!!!
blackcatsoda 3 years ago
Thank-you obamaunderground for showing all these videos on you tube. Thank-you pastor steve foss for your info also. Obama is hiding to much. To many questions are not being answered. American people wakeup and hear what your heart is saying to you. Obama has only been U.S. Senator for 4 years. We need to get to know him better before he becomes president.
usecanwetheforce 3 years ago
I left a message on their machine but fat lot of good that will do.They are criminal in withholding news that could effect the fate of this nation.
sopmodm4 3 years ago
"Whomever Allah wants to deceive you cannot help.Allah does not want them to know the truth because he intends to disgrace them and then torture them".Qur'an 5:41
jimmmmybrady 3 years ago
funny how the LA Times, a surrogate for Obama, while thinking that they are helping the campaign by not allowing access to the tape, are actually hurting it.
bxofrain 3 years ago
I heard a group of children danced the Muslim beheading dance at that dinner hubhub27 Hussein applauded at the end and thats why they won't release it.
Staffotex 3 years ago
Obama likes his cocaine white, like his interns
Obama Black Power USA 08
obama08acorn 3 years ago
I have called and emailed LA Times. I will never again buy that newspaper. Everyone should cancell their subscription and demand their money back. These people need to be put out of business!
GreasePixy 3 years ago
You now guys this is what I have been talking about for some time ow. This man is dangerous for us and the entire globe. We have to stop him now and this will end his run for the white house forever. I see a pattern here, he meets with these extrem people and no one is saying a word about this man. He sat is pastor Wright church for 20 years and with this guy that the LA Times is hold back from us is more scary than Wright! Let us get this message out guys, we have a few days left.
Gayront79 3 years ago
He is a well-respected Palestinian american. You might want to explain the nearly 500,000 dollors Mcliar gave to this man if you think he so bad. Hypocrites!!!
luvsumtay 3 years ago
release the tape! This is very un american. The liberal and prejudice views you express is a mockery of our freedom of the press. May your liberal RAG you print go down with obama.
pdahere 3 years ago
so, khalidi is Palestinian.
does that make him and his family evil?
what kind of blanket haters are you?
are palestinians somehow inferior to isrealis?
i dont get it. khalidi is a respected professor.. maybe colleges are evil also?
and of course you know about
the several hundred thousand that went from
mccains group to khalidi's?
you are just racist and full of hate..
peace be unto you.
downwindspiral 3 years ago
Are you crazy? He is a hate monger! Ayers is a domestic terrorist! They live in America and enjoy our freedoms though. Obama would not even be able to pass a background check for a security clearance and he is going to be our commander in chief? What a joke! Just so you know I am not a racist. I have friends of different races, nationalities and religions. I judge a person by their character not for what is on the outside. If Obama is elected I will truly be disappointed in my fellow Americans
Brantley2111 3 years ago
It isn't that Khalidi is a Palestinian. Its the fact that he supported the PLO when they were a terrorists & that he tries to spread hatred of Israel. In fact, he was fired from a job 4 spreading hatred of Israel/Jews. We would hate an Israeli who tried doing the same thing to Palestinians. We do not like ppl who try 2 spread hatred. Anyway, this isn't the point. All news stations should report all sides of the news. This is vital to a free country & our news media has gotten way 2 one-sided
FreedomLover4Ever 3 years ago
If Obama were not guilty in some fashion he would ask the LA Times to release that tape. He has something to hide and if he gets in I feel sorry for Isreal. Who else will come out of Obama's closet? Already we have him being a member of a racist, black liberation theology church, friends with two known terrorists... Nobama!!!
Springsteps 3 years ago
Call Peter Wallsten of the LA times directly. Here is his cell phone #. 202.441.1940
ksurick 3 years ago 2
The comments below, read them in order from top to bottom are from Pastor Steve Foss.
Fellow Christians, PLEASE pray and ask God to let McCain win this election. We don't want the most UNgodly president in history to win this election.
obamaunderground 3 years ago
A Prophetic Warning from Pastor Steve Foss.
I am writing to you today an urgent message concerning the coming
American election. God has released me to share with you a powerful
prophecy He gave me eight years ago. I have shared this prophecy in a
number of public meetings, but I have never published it for all our
friends and partners. In January of 2000 God gave me an incredible
insight into what was about to happen in the coming elections in
America over the next decade.
obamaunderground 3 years ago
Never in my 22 years of ministry
have I seen such a spirit of delusion released upon our country. In
January of 2000, while the Republican nomination for president was
far from being decided, God spoke to me that George W. Bush would be
the president of the United States . He told me it would be the
hardest fought election in American history. I'm sure we can all
remember the incredible battle that took place in Florida.
obamaunderground 3 years ago
He told
me that President Bush would be elected to two terms. He told me that
during Bush's term there would be a season of unprecedented economic
prosperity.
Now despite what the media has said, the economic wealth created
during the last eight years was unprecedented. I know the media and
one of the political parties has been trying to paint the last eight
years as the worst economic time in American history, but it is
absolutely untrue.
obamaunderground 3 years ago
If you look at the wealth created, there were more
millionaires created in the last eight years than any time in history.
Multitudes of people were able to sell real estate before the housing
market collapse, and received incredible transfers of wealth.
obamaunderground 3 years ago
I could
spend hours showing documentation of the wealth created, but suffice
it to say, the evidence is there. God then said to me, At the end of
President Bush's second term there would be an economic collapse. As
everyone in the world knows, we have just faced the greatest economic
threat since 1929 and the Great Depression. I will speak a little more
about the present economic situation a little later in this message.
obamaunderground 3 years ago
God spoke
to me that after George W. Bush, America would elect its most ungodly
president ever. I'm going to say that again. God spoke to me that
after George W. Bush, America would elect its most ungodly president
ever. As of the writing of this e-mail we are now less than two weeks
away from voting for our next president. At this time the polls are
strongly showing that the Democratic nominee for president will
easily win the White House.
obamaunderground 3 years ago
Now in 2006 I began to ask the Lord, Is that guaranteed to happen
in 2008? He spoke to me very clearly and gave me the key words to
what I believe holds this election in the balance right now. He gave
me these key words that can forever change what is about to happen in
America . He said, It depends on the Christians. I am not going to
endorse a candidate, nor am I telling anyone who to vote for. I am
simply sharing what God has shown me. I had a vision earlier this
year.
obamaunderground 3 years ago
I saw Barack Obama in this vision. He was speaking to a large
crowd and being broadcast on television. He was speaking incredible
words of unity, peace, and bringing all sides together; the words
were elegant, the words were comforting, and the words were
inspiring. But while he was speaking I saw all a powerful spirit of
violence coming out of his spirit feeding into the spirits of those
that were hearing him. That spirit of violence was directed at
anybody who opposed what he said.
obamaunderground 3 years ago
Those who heard his words and
received it had the spirit of violence being implanted inside of them.
It was a rage like I have not seen before.
It was the rage that would be unleashed against those who oppose and
stand in the way of Barack Obama's agenda. We are already seeing the
beginnings of this spirit manifested here in America . The vicious
attacks against Sarah Palin have been unlike anything we have ever
seen before.
obamaunderground 3 years ago
The sheer hate for this woman from people who knew
nothing about her, and who claim to stand up and protect the little
people, and women, has been shocking. We now see it with Joe the
plumber. These people who are under the influence of this demon
spirit of rage desire to completely destroy this man because he dared
to question Barack Obama. In fact it wasn't just the question; it was
because Barack Obama revealed his true agenda that Joe the plumber
became a threat.
obamaunderground 3 years ago
it was the IRI that funded a group Khalidi started. Its a far cry from funding him.
McCain never met Khalidi nor gave him personal money.
The group CPSR was approved by the Israeli gov. That doesnt mean Khalidi didnt have public antisemtiic views and was a PLO spokesman.
That Obama talking point is lame and a intelligent persona can see right through it
tommyz1052 3 years ago
Obama never gave him 'personal money' either. The group was still one of Khalidi's, he didn't share different views for different groups, and Obama never funded ANY of his groups.
tiggxtreme 3 years ago
Release the tape, because this is whats troubling from the LA TIMES ARTICLE
A special tribute came from Khalidi's friend and frequent dinner companion, the young state Sen. Barack Obama. Speaking to the crowd, Obama reminisced about meals prepared by Khalidi's wife, Mona, and conversations that had challenged his thinking.
tommyz1052 3 years ago
Do you know what the NEW PARTY is? Obama does.
Obama is baiting his zombie supporters who are drooling over the prospect of getting money they never earned. How old school. How Chicago. How sad.
plum26754 3 years ago
anyone who votes for obama is looking for a handout or they are dumb college kids who are "wet behind the ears" . pathetic. the guy was a us senator for like 150 days before he started running for pres. hes got no experience!
punanibuzzed 3 years ago
No they dont care where he's from or born.
Barry Santoro'being his real name said in his
Harvard memwuas he has never went by anyother
name,but said'his mother gave him back his
Muslim born name when he came to the states
at age Seven.
miller0862 3 years ago
A 'natural-born' citizen is not a 'born-in-the-U.S.' citizen. Natural born means born in the U.S., OR born to a parent that is a U.S. citizen. His mother is a U.S. citizen, he could have been born anywhere and still be a natural-born U.S. citizen. You need to be a natural-born citizen to run for president, not a U.S.-born citizen. I'm surprised you didn't know something as simple as that.
tiggxtreme 3 years ago
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During the 1990s, while he served as chairman of the International Republican Institute (IRI), McCain distributed several grants to the Palestinian research center co-founded by Khalidi, including one worth half a million dollars.A 1998 tax filing for the McCain-led group shows a $448,873 grant to Khalidi's Center for Palestine Research and Studies for work in the West Bank. The relationship extends back as far as 1993, when John McCain joined IRI as chairman in January
md20twomp 3 years ago
After the speech @ Berlin Obama got out of the shower & was drying off when he looked in the mirror & saw he was white from the neck up to the top of his head.
In panic & fearing he was turning white & might have to give up his hopes to be pres, he called his dr
The dr advised him to see him . After an exam the dr mixed a concoction of brown liquid for Obama, & told him to drink it all
Obama drank the concoction & replied, That tasted like bullshit
The dr replied It was you were a quart low
notes08 3 years ago 2
WHO IS BARRACK HUSSIEN OBAMA???? 1. Occidental College records -Not released 2. Columbia College records -Not released 3. Columbia Thesis Paper -Not available 4. Harvard College records -Not released 5. Selective Service Registration -Not released 6. Medical records -Not released 7. Illinois State Senate schedule "not available"
MarteLHammersHussein 3 years ago 2
WHO IS BARRACK HUSSIEN OBAMA???? 1. Occidental College records -Not released 2. Columbia College records -Not released 3. Columbia Thesis Paper -Not available 4. Harvard College records -Not released 5. Selective Service Registration -Not released 6. Medical records -Not released 7. Illinois State Senate schedule "not available"
MarteLHammersHussein 3 years ago 3
8. Law practice client list -Not released 9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -Not released 10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -Not released 11. Harvard Law Review articles published -None 12. University of Chicago scholarly articles -None 13. Record of baptism -Not released or "not available" 14. Illinois State Senate records "not available." WOULD YOU HIRE AN EMPLOYEE WHO W0ULDN'T DISCLOSE ANY OF THIS INFORMATION?? WHO IS BARRACK HUSSIEN OBAMA????
MarteLHammersHussein 3 years ago 2
He is your next president. You are Obsessed with him.lol
atripa645 3 years ago
He is born in Kenya if he becomes President it will be UNCONSTITIONAL or do you even care about the law of the land anymore? If you don't the leave USA now!
MysteryMoe 3 years ago
A 'natural-born' citizen is not a 'born-in-the-U.S.' citizen. Natural born means born in the U.S., OR born to a parent that is a U.S. citizen. His mother is a U.S. citizen, he could have been born anywhere and still be a natural-born U.S. citizen. You need to be a natural-born U.S. citizen, not a U.S.-born citizen. I'm not surprised that you didn't even know something as simple as that.
tiggxtreme 3 years ago
The election is on Nov 4th. People will vote. Lets wait for the results or have the results been fixed? The polls are tightening-McCain will prevail!
MarteLHammersHussein 3 years ago
8. Law practice client list -Not released 9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -Not released 10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -Not released 11. Harvard Law Review articles published -None 12. University of Chicago scholarly articles -None 13. Record of baptism -Not released or "not available" 14. Illinois State Senate records "not available." WOULD YOU HIRE AN EMPLOYEE WHO W0ULDN'T DISCLOSE ANY OF THIS INFORMATION?? WHO IS BARRACK HUSSIEN OBAMA????
MarteLHammersHussein 3 years ago 4
Tell LA Times to release video *NOW*!!
I sent emails last night to following ppl at LA Times (EmailAddressInParentheses)
EDDY W. HARTENSTEIN-Publisher & CEO
(Eddy DOT HartensteinATlatimesDOTcom)
KARLENE GOLLER-VP Legal & Dep. Gen. Counsel
(Karlene DOT GollerATlatimesDOTcom)
RUSS STANTON-Editor LA Times
(Russ DOT StantonAT latimesDOTcom)
Peter Wallsten (wrote orig story)
(peter DOT wallsten AT latimesDOTcom)
MarteLHammersHussein 3 years ago 2
if it weren't for the hatred and racism that this type of propaganda breeds this would be laughable. they won't release the tape because of a signed legal document. does that equate to secrecy? no! for the same reason sarah palin refused to release her medical records. nobody is talking about her husbands political affiliation to a party that is anti-american??? which leads me to believe that deep down, it's all about race. fear of the unknown. whitey afraid blackey gonna come get my money. lol!
caligirlindahouse 3 years ago
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
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you republicants keep arguing about the relase of some tape. I cant RELEASE the tape but if youd like I can release my huge COCK from my pants. then you can RELEASE the receits from palins 150,000 shopping spree.
jaktigmidblinx 3 years ago
this is retarted. no one fucking cares.
jaktigmidblinx 3 years ago
the point is that by not coming clean, if elected he could be blackmailed by
1. the LA Times
2. the kenyan government
3. the British government
4. the Indonesian government
He would not be able to make decisions favorable to America's security.
vedicastrol 3 years ago 2
vedicastrol, EXACTLY! Obama owes many that will come to get their payment! People and nations that hate America are owed much by Obama.
God save us!!
obamaunderground 3 years ago
That explains why only 2 countries in the entire world support McCain, and all the others support Obama.
tiggxtreme 3 years ago
The Huffington Post writer Kills Ex Lover
BOYNTON BEACH — Carol Anne Burger killed her former lover by stabbing her 222 times with a Phillips-head screwdriver and then took pains to hide her crime, police said Wednesday.
Jessica Kalish, who shared a house with Burger despite breaking up with her more than a year ago, was found last Thursday stuffed in the backseat of her gun-metal BMW sedan, abandoned behind a medical office at 2300 S. Congress Avenue.
see more @ Palm Beach Post
notes08 3 years ago
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Obummer. Socialists destroy economies by punishing job creators who they call "the rich" and rewarding welfare collectors who they call "the downtrodden". Watch for taxes to go up and services to go down. Then watch for them to pit people against each other (as has already happened) as they implement the Socialist "Divide and Conquer" tactics. In 4 years, you won't recognize your once-great nation.
Brdstfff 3 years ago
LA times has confirmed the they hold the tape,but they refuse to release it to the public.Thats just hurting Obama more,cause fear of the unknown is many times greater than reality,people imagination runs wild,like OH my god it's so bad they won't release and stuff like that.
It's hurting Obama more not releasing it,it's gotten too big all over newspapers and blogs,and your letting people form own ideas whats on it,and those are proboly worse than reality of whats on it.
scotters201 3 years ago 2
they are holding it because their article on this tape in the spring wasnt accurate, proving another rag ending with the word "times" is just that a rag. Great for wrapping fish
NHMntnHIGH 3 years ago
ThisAmerican1, you never question mccain over his pal gordon liddy who plotted to murder federal agents never showed remorse and contributed to mccain campaign,his chaired international republican institute put khalidi as one of its trustees[guilt by association is so important to mccain camp], another pal pastor hagee called catholicism a whore religion, pal sen.gramm deregulated trading on oil banking got oil to $150 per gallon, carly fiorina fired 25700 workers her pay jump 231%.
bade34 3 years ago
Good point
1dell 3 years ago
Ibrahim Abu Jayab 4 Obama!
McCain loses yet another key politico!
Ibrahim Abu Jayab has made his choice for 08, and has come out to campaign for the Messiah of the American Jews, Barack Hussein Obama.
I am Ibrahim Abu Jayab from the Gaza. I support Senator Obama from the Gaza Strip. I think that Senator Obama, he achieve peace in the world, and in my area.
notes08 3 years ago
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Barack Obama is the most radical candidate ever to stand at the precipice of acquiring his partys presidential nomination is a member of an international socialist movement which hopes to use the United Nations(the African World Reparations and Repatriation Truth Commission) as a vehicle to shake down U.S. taxpayers for $777 trillions dollars in slavery reparations
ht tp: / / w ww. aim. org/ aim -report/ obama -and -the -drive -for -slavery -reparations/
Wright & Conyers support this as well
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
Hell, we can't EVEN get Barry to release his Birth Certificate or his transcripts, fat chance LAT will expose the Mulatto Messiah.
ThisAmerican1 3 years ago
Bend over Israel.
If ObamACORN steals this election, the Cornholer-in-Chief will throw Israel under the bus.
The LA Times is covering for Obama.
No surprise there.
Just like the NYTimes is refusing to release the tape of Obama reciting the Muslim Shahada in perfect Arabic accent, after proclaiming that the Muslim call to prayer was "one of the prettiest sounds" on earth.
I wonder if Hollywood will enjoy Life under Sharia Law?
[A paid Obot will likely attack this comment.]
SeekerNLife 3 years ago 2
You also have the right to know that McCain knew Rashid Khalidi since 1993 and have funded his organization with OVER 1 million American Dollars.
watch?v=VbMfqhD-4Zw
It's said how hypocritical and desparate the McCain campaign has become. Whats worst? Giving a so called "terrorist" Money to purchase weapons (McCain) or being at the same function as this so called "terrorist" at a dinner function for a Chicago College?
1dell 3 years ago
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This story is HUGE and I believe that there is going to be such national pressure on the LA Times, that they are going to have to release the tape or at least a transcript of it. I urge everyone who believes in truth in media and journalistic integrity to call the Times and cancel your subscription. If you have ads in that paper, then have those canceled as well. Hit 'em where it hurts!
Synthetrix 3 years ago
Dont you instinctively know that there's something very damaging on this tape if the LA Times won't release it? Why is it that you people are more concerned with winning than in investigating the candidate whom you will vote for?
Can ANYONE honestly say that they think Obama LOVES America? Shouldn't our president LOVE his country? We're becoming stupid clones -- so blinded by attempts to get our own way and to "win" that we are dishonest about the truth and the pursuit of it!
dadonthetube 3 years ago 3
This is the dumbest question in the world. What do you think Obama is running for? huh? This will probably be our first president in a bubble. Riding around in a Glass box like the Pope does when he comes to visit. He will need twice as much security as any other president because he is 10 times more like to have assassination attempts. He obviously cares! Who else would work so hard for a cause that puts his and his family's lives in danger?
1dell 3 years ago
An illegal alien, anti American, socialist,narcissitic POS, that's who.
ThisAmerican1 3 years ago 3
Well, obviously you and I aren't seeing (or hearing) the same Barak Obama. My question of his love for our country is not a dumb one -- it's a crucial one that should be asked of ANY CANDIDATE! In fact, it's a question that you should be asking yourself everyday between now and Tuesday. It's a question that I can ask about John McCain and KNOW the answer is a resounding YES! I don't see, in Obama, a man who loves my country. No way. He's too into "talking" with the enemy and toasting them.
dadonthetube 3 years ago
Are you serious? ARe you REALLY REALLY serious? You KNOW that John McCAin loves this country? What is your proof?
Too late. I don't have to make any decisions between now and wednesday. I voted for Obama yesterday!
1dell 3 years ago
No~ McCain pals around with Gordon Liddy.
This guilt by association game is STUPID. They all have associations with people who may or may not have questionable pasts. McCain has served in the Senate with former KKK members, racists, etc.
This grasping at straws by the McCain camp is pathetic. He's as guilty of these associations as anyone else.
And I'll say it again...
McCain's International Republican Inst FUNDED Rashid Khalidi...I would say that is an association!!!
darcydo523 3 years ago
Talk about Guilt by Association, what about Todd Palin and the Alaska Independent Party wanting cession from the Union. Wanting no longer to be a part of the US. By today's definition they would be terrorists.
Palin's husband belonged to the group. She on several occasions attended the gatherings and spoke at their events. You can't get no guiltier than that!
1dell 3 years ago
obama = arafat on steroids
RIP israel, it was nice knowing you
SonOfByfordBroOfAL 3 years ago
Just another desperate and pathetic attempt from the McCain campaign to paint Obama as a terrorist.
McCain's International Republican Inst FUNDED Rashid Khalidi in the past!!! OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE!!!! GET PAST YOUR RACISM!!!
Obama is the only candidate who "gets" that middle America is HURTING. McCain is the elitist who has no idea what middle class people are going through. McCain's economic plan only helps the rich get richer.
We can't survive 4 more years of BUSH policies.
darcydo523 3 years ago
Skinny!!!!! Skinny!!!! Hows that for racism????!!! Or how about Community Organizer........you are a FOOOOOOLLLLLLL
wkualum1 3 years ago
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Information has become cheap! Critical thinking has become.. likewise! So sad to see the company I work for (LA TIMES) become a bias media source. What a secular commie rag! No longer will be we respected as a news paper. with our nod for Obama, we just lost many readers ($). I cant believe Zell gave in and let money slip through his greedy hands.
Snotra 3 years ago
McCain's chaired the International Republican Institute that funded Rashid Khalidi, US$450k filed in 1998.
McCain is a liar and a hypocrite.
wvdc 3 years ago
McCain didn't pal around with him did he?? Obama's pal list is growing like weeds and the drive by's keep sweeping it under the damn rug, as always. Their God Obama can do no wrong can he??
bullcraponit 3 years ago 3
He just dumped over 1 Million dollars in his lap. Thats more than paling around if you ask me. Obama attended a college function where the guy just so happened to be.
1dell 3 years ago
obama is a two faced liar...no one should respect him in this great country of ours.
crashoveride8732 3 years ago
DO ANY OF YOU OBAMA-HATERS ACTUALLY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT KHALIDI? The man is a professor of Palestinian studies at COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY...does that mean Columbia "pals around with terrorists?" Truth is that JOHN MCCAIN gave 500,000 dollars to Khalidi's organization to study the socio-political patterns of Palestinians back in the 90's when he was chairman of a foreign relations board...Fox news just spews these "radical" names and associations and sees if they stick...then the neo-cons regurgitate
RockawayRiotSquad 3 years ago
YES!!! Look how they fawned all over Achmed from Iran. Columbia has becomes a pandering POS school, just like the rest of the anti American crowd.
ThisAmerican1 3 years ago 2
In the video with Obama at Rashid Khalidi's house, toasting the former PLO press director while anti-Israel comments fly about the room. Doug Ross, who talked to the LA writer, writes that Obama said at the party "Israel has no God-given right to occupy Palestine" "plus there's been genocide against the Palestinian people by Israelis" and everyone cheered...
obama08acorn 3 years ago
I'll make the call in the morning and I just sent the video out to all contacts. I wish I believed it would help. Unfortunately, I think US media has completely sold out to the fascists and have pretty much facilitated a coup d`etat. Now we get to watch our nation taken to its knees.
carolineislands 3 years ago 3
I just called them.
USAJuly4th1776 3 years ago
Leave a message at the LA Times demanding that they release the Khalidi video, call 1-877-554-4000.
ENOUGH with the pro-Obama bias already!! This is undemocratic, unethical, unprofessional and violates every tenant of integrity and neutrality demanded by the media in mature democracies such as the United States... despite Obama, we are NOT the USSR yet (except for the liberals)!
Boycott the liberal media!
USAJuly4th1776 3 years ago
was up july4th you got any more numbers, I just called the L.A. times one.
Los Angele Hispanic for McCain,08!!!
Arty outY
arthur420albert 3 years ago
In the video with Obama at Rashid Khalidi's house, toasting the former PLO press director while anti-Israel comments fly about the room. Doug Ross, who talked to the LA writer, writes that Obama said at the party "Israel has no God-given right to occupy Palestine" "plus there's been genocide against the Palestinian people by Israelis" and everyone cheered...
obama08acorn 3 years ago
Oops! Now it turns out that when McCain was chairman of the IRI (International Republican Institute) they donated over $800,000 to an organization Khalidi helped found 15 years ago. The Center for Palestine Research and Studies. Maybe the LA Times was doing McCain a favor?
sadieluck 3 years ago
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Are you people really this dumb? McCain has closer ties to Khalidi than Obama, actually funding him in fighting for Palestinian rights. Obama has no real ties to this guy. Another desperate, bullshit attack from the McCain campaign.
tiggxtreme 3 years ago
apparently alot of americans are really really dumb...
and racist
ooohhh.... college professor that is palestinian,....ooooohhhh
i would rather have a pres. that can communicate with all peoples
peace
downwindspiral 3 years ago
F*ck Obama that anti-semite terrorist lover.
Eddie3dfx 3 years ago 2
I am hoping that they do release the video - it would be good for the AMERICAN people to see.
I'm ashamed of the news media throughout the last 6 months. I want to know the truth, show the video!
Maybe it is time to go back to getting the news from the radio again.
scentedflames01 3 years ago 4
As a member of the media, I can tell you that newsrooms all over the country are working hard to get Obama elected. News organizations are extremely liberal and most CEO's and GM's feel that Obama's far left stance favors their agenda and benefits their organizations. The media is to report, act as a watchdog, and disseminate the news... NOT SUPPRESS IT!!!!! LA Times let us decide if the tape is newsworthy or not!!! Are you afraid the material on that tape shows America that Obama has lied?
powertie12 3 years ago 5
The mainstream media died in 2008. The American people have a right to see the video tape. Amazing that an institution that is supposed to report the news is unwilling to allow the people to see it.
erictube2007 3 years ago 5
Picket and demonstration at LA times scheduled for tommorow.
freedommarch(dot)org for info
69khz 3 years ago 2
If people are still voting for Obama after this crap, they are totally anti-American and out of their minds. I - for one - only voted McCain/Palin '08! I gave Obama a chance, but he got a failing grade from me. I served in the U.S. Navy, and I am not about to vote a towel head, Black Liberation theologian into the Whitehouse. I'm disgusted that sheeple calling themselves "Americans" are even considering Obama as an option for Commander In Chief of the Armed Forces. Hero before Zero in my book!
blicksflicks 3 years ago 4
I'm cancelling my subscription to the L.A. Rag, and I call for all subscribers to do the same! (800)252-9141 or (213)237-5000
DimondR 3 years ago 2
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John McCain gave several grants to Rashid Khalidi's Center for Palestine Research and Studies (CPRS), including a grant of $448,873 in 1998, while he chaired the International Republican Institute (McCain is still the chairmen of IRI). Here is IRI's 1998 tax returns:
abcnews dot c om/images/Politics/IRI% 20Form%20990%20-%201998 dot pdf
See grant number 5180, "West Bank: CPRS" on page 14. Yes, the "West Bank", in the Palestinian Territories.
Diamonddavej 3 years ago
I emailed the LA times and told them not to release it, just to give you cry babies something to whaaa about.
Gangularis 3 years ago
Why does the LA times need to release the video? They were the ones that DISCLOSED the fact that they had it because they did a report on it 6 months ago!!! They told their source that they would not release it, and they're keeping to their word. The question you should really be asking is why is fox news drudging this up a few days before the election, instead of bring it up SIX MONTHS AGO when LA times reported that they had the video.. The answer isn't a hard one to figure out.
Gangularis 3 years ago
How many people are the right going to try to smear to win this election? It's becoming not only a joke, but a sadly run campaign. At least Obama has some tact and doesn't return the favor! He could bring up a lot of people and situations (Keating 5, G. Gordon Liddy, among others)- but is choosing to keep HIS word to run a more respectful campaign. McCain and Palin are desperate, as well as the rest of the right, and it shows. I almost feel bad for them...
mbuttterfly77 3 years ago
Doesn't return the favor???!!!! What are you thinking...or not thinking....Obama is the man who said they were going to say..."oh by the way did you know he was black".....Great "tact" as you put it.
wkualum1 3 years ago
The rest of the REPS put together could NOT line up a bigger group of lying, immoral, corrupt, socialists than Barry has as his closest friends and advisors. Yeah, Barry is SO tactful. Where's his freaking Birth Certificate? Oh, I forgot, he "tactfully" went to HI to "visit his sick grandmother" and FORCED the Gov to seal it. He tacfully went on government expense to aid Odinga in destroying Kenya, he tactfully tried to destroy Middle America in the form of Joe the Plumber, the list goes on..
ThisAmerican1 3 years ago
Obama is a Trojan Horse with a hidden agenda. Vote McCain
haumana33 3 years ago 3
You left wingers say you want change? suppressing information?
failing to release records?
lying about affiliations?
Doesn't sound like the change we need. If this is all we know now, imagine what the future will reveal when it's too late!!!
fluttervalve 3 years ago
This does not surprise me at all! Obama is a wolf in sheep's clothing and any truth about him is going to hidden from the public at all cost's by the left wing media. We'll be left wondering how a terrorist got elected when it's all over. His followers are like zombies refusing to see the writing on the wall, I am disgusted in Americans that will put their country at risk just to spite republicans because they don't like what bush has done. God help our country if he is elected....
fluttervalve 3 years ago
I emailed the LA Times. And shellius, you know if they had a tape of McCain with a PLO radical it would be all over the evening news. Doug Ross has written in his blog that he has talked with the LA Times writer and has seen a clip from the tape and here are the statements Obama said to rile the audience up during a toast. He congratulates Khalidi for his work saying "Israel has no God-given right to occupy Palestine" plus there's been "genocide against the Palestinian people by Israelis"
CRICHFAN 3 years ago
Ridiculous. Don't you right-wing people have anything useful to do with your lives other than be hysterical?
shellius 3 years ago
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freedommarch(dot)org for info
69khz 3 years ago
what the hell Obama and Bill Ayer and Khalidi doing there together anyway?
peakarach 3 years ago 4