who is this idiot behind the mic? "he landed, then took off again...but he has his landing gear down" ------ idiot, it's a low altitude pass over!
j-10 is flying "more conservatively", and he said "i presume the plane is bigger and heavier, so harder for the pilot to control..." WTF??? these are airplanes, dictated by aerodynamic characteristics!!! not tanks...
Some of you people have some funny ideas about fighters! The Eurofighter doesn't have thrust vectoring or stealth! And saying that any 4th gen fighter has a chance in hell agianst a 5th gen fighter is just silly! To much "pro China", talk and no "reality talk"! The Chinese military isn't that dumb. That's why they're working on their own 5th gen fighter. They want to compete. Can't do that with this plane. Flying coffins anyone!...
The reason china is working hard on the 5th generation fighter is simplely because that is the future generation of fighter, and China has the ability to develop it. The 5th gen fighter as the USAF says " are much harder to be detected" which means it can be detected and it is becoming easier and easier since the new solution China has found. We agree the 5th has an advantage over the 4th but not as much as you dream.
Of course stealth aircraft can be detected. But if you can't track it, you cant hit it. This is stealth basics 101! You must be new to this hole thing young padawan. And what exactly is this "new solution" you claim China has found?
Your story was an old stroy. All your assumption was basied on 5th gen vs traditional 4th gen, China found the solution and US navy proved it. I am not going to waste too much time here. Go check how did f22 get killded in the exercise, the military doesnt want to talk too much, but as you think you knows a lot, it should be very obvious. Go get some update.
I see. You're talking about the EA-18G incident! We dont know all the facts about that scenario because they are secret. The Airforce may have been doing its own test against the Navy's dedicated jammer the EA-18G without telling them. We really dont know but I dought China has jamming technology, on its fighters, that can match the EA-18G Growler! We just dont know what went down and it is to soon to claim an anti-stealth "solution" as of yet Padawan!
You seems know something about Amercian but have no idea about what its opponent are doing.Two faces, First, Lockheed doubled the mount of RAM on F22 during the stealth test and RAM has dropped off several times during f22's oversea deployment. Second, F22 production has been cut short in order to build more EA-18G. I very much doupt your braveness to work out the relationship in these facts, and don't live in your star war movie.
Production of the F-22 was halted in order to buy more drones, littoral combat ships and other equipment that would be better suited to fighting the current set of bad guys! (See Robert Gates) As for the RAM issue! Rain has always been a problem. That doesn't mean they should just give-up on it! RAM is far to valueable to wait for it to be perfected! You're doing better but your facts are a bit off Anakin.
The F22's problem is not useful and not stable, Your porblem is knows too little. Boy, you must spent all your time on the Star War. There is something similar between you and raptor, both are doing well in the fiction, but none can face the real thing.
Poor poor Ahsoka! I clearly know more than you think I do. You seem like one of those people who think anything can take-out an F-22 easily! You can believe what ever you want young Jedi...
hi starwar boy, you didnt understand what i said. What i mean is , even it is a raptor, it still have its killer.You seem like one of those american who think anything from usa is unbeatable. Let's wait and see. The same way the US said about its NightHawk. The Pentagon never talk about the weakness of their fighters until the rest of the world knows, but they already knows.
Bro, who has claimed "the J-10B has been compared to the F-35 and is considered "superior to anything but the F-22""?
It's more like an F-16E/F, or a Eurofighter with AESA... not the F-35... It's stealth shaping compared to the F-35, using your eyes is easily far far less..
And the J-10A at the moment still uses the Al-31 engine... Dude don't make overly ambitious claims, it reduces your credibility... -_-
the f-35 is 5th gen bro, it has stealth and an amazing radar from the raptor it will detect and kill any J-10 before the J-10 even has a clue about what's going on and in a dogfight the F-35 will use its maneuverability and Helmet Mounted Display to destroy any target...
Not exactly 5th-gen. It is partially-stealth. The J-10B has RCS of 0.3 m, which is almost stealthier than the F-35. The J-10B also has greater speed, range, manueverability and probably in avionics as well. J-10B will be fitted with anti-stealth radar.
J-10B is an amazing plane but I can't believe that when they have to buy almost all high-tech components from foreign countries that they supress other 5th gen planes from major countries like russia or the US.
Come on, the F 35 can't climb can't turn and can't run, that is what Senior US fighter engineer said. You want to throw your Helmet at J10? I hope you helmet can travel at the speed of sound.
actually the f-35 can climb especially with that big ass F135 engine in the back and trust me it can turn too maybe not like the raptor but the enough to keep up with your ass and it will shoot you down with the HELMET DISPLAY SO IT WON'T HAVE TO GET BEHIND YOU ANYWAY...also fighters rarely achieve speeds over mach 1.5 its simply too expensive with the gas guzzling afterburner and when they do go very fast or at max speed they can only do that for about 5 min, 10 tops!
The way you talk about HMD is the same way BMW talk about their iDrive system, But after a year of its introduction, all their competitors bring up their own improved ones, go and check how does the Beemer owner feel about their idrive, all you can ask an F35 pilot about their HMD, if they want to talk to you.
BMW doesn't get better than a Ferrari just because it get a very confusing system. A sheer fighter is there to fight not there to hide. If you want to call your f35 is a much better hider, i will be 100% agree.
Sure you can think whatever, but the USAF said the f-35 was not designed for a dogfight -- it has no advantage in a dogfight thenerao, it was designed for hiding, that is the end of it.
Actually, there was a british analysis ( which are pretty accurate since they got access to F-35) and they said that the F-35 is overweight despite its large engine. They say the maneuverability is similar to the F-105!!!! And, even the designer said they were not intended for combat but more for strike mission.
the j10 can do very tight small circle fast turns.
edwardtang1977 10 months ago
j-1o is a 4th genration jet not 3rd cct should know that.
fadi420420 1 year ago
so know u selling these to pakistan so that they beat the shit out indian slumdogs.just like alexander the great fucked indians 2300 years ago.
bionicgreek 1 year ago
who is this idiot behind the mic? "he landed, then took off again...but he has his landing gear down" ------ idiot, it's a low altitude pass over!
j-10 is flying "more conservatively", and he said "i presume the plane is bigger and heavier, so harder for the pilot to control..." WTF??? these are airplanes, dictated by aerodynamic characteristics!!! not tanks...
CCTV -- truly pathetic...
mtx1212 2 years ago
Nice! I gave you 5 stars, bro!
csengeri 2 years ago
Failure is the mother of success
F22 is advancing
SkyKidTommy 2 years ago
How do you film all of these?
Koolcow23 2 years ago
hey Segretor bro, just for info, J-10B=Super 10?
PWFI 2 years ago 2
Yes
segregator236 2 years ago
@segregator236 , thank you dear, i was in confusion! any way thanks a lot!
PWFI 2 years ago
When the "Super 10" goes operational, we can take this tiny(X-31 lite) fighter seriously! Yeah - I do my homework! Unlike so many people here!
bujoun76 2 years ago
Some of you people have some funny ideas about fighters! The Eurofighter doesn't have thrust vectoring or stealth! And saying that any 4th gen fighter has a chance in hell agianst a 5th gen fighter is just silly! To much "pro China", talk and no "reality talk"! The Chinese military isn't that dumb. That's why they're working on their own 5th gen fighter. They want to compete. Can't do that with this plane. Flying coffins anyone!...
bujoun76 2 years ago
The reason china is working hard on the 5th generation fighter is simplely because that is the future generation of fighter, and China has the ability to develop it. The 5th gen fighter as the USAF says " are much harder to be detected" which means it can be detected and it is becoming easier and easier since the new solution China has found. We agree the 5th has an advantage over the 4th but not as much as you dream.
ajx245 2 years ago
Of course stealth aircraft can be detected. But if you can't track it, you cant hit it. This is stealth basics 101! You must be new to this hole thing young padawan. And what exactly is this "new solution" you claim China has found?
bujoun76 2 years ago
Your story was an old stroy. All your assumption was basied on 5th gen vs traditional 4th gen, China found the solution and US navy proved it. I am not going to waste too much time here. Go check how did f22 get killded in the exercise, the military doesnt want to talk too much, but as you think you knows a lot, it should be very obvious. Go get some update.
ajx245 2 years ago
I see. You're talking about the EA-18G incident! We dont know all the facts about that scenario because they are secret. The Airforce may have been doing its own test against the Navy's dedicated jammer the EA-18G without telling them. We really dont know but I dought China has jamming technology, on its fighters, that can match the EA-18G Growler! We just dont know what went down and it is to soon to claim an anti-stealth "solution" as of yet Padawan!
bujoun76 2 years ago
You seems know something about Amercian but have no idea about what its opponent are doing.Two faces, First, Lockheed doubled the mount of RAM on F22 during the stealth test and RAM has dropped off several times during f22's oversea deployment. Second, F22 production has been cut short in order to build more EA-18G. I very much doupt your braveness to work out the relationship in these facts, and don't live in your star war movie.
ajx245 2 years ago
Production of the F-22 was halted in order to buy more drones, littoral combat ships and other equipment that would be better suited to fighting the current set of bad guys! (See Robert Gates) As for the RAM issue! Rain has always been a problem. That doesn't mean they should just give-up on it! RAM is far to valueable to wait for it to be perfected! You're doing better but your facts are a bit off Anakin.
bujoun76 2 years ago
The F22's problem is not useful and not stable, Your porblem is knows too little. Boy, you must spent all your time on the Star War. There is something similar between you and raptor, both are doing well in the fiction, but none can face the real thing.
ajx245 2 years ago
Poor poor Ahsoka! I clearly know more than you think I do. You seem like one of those people who think anything can take-out an F-22 easily! You can believe what ever you want young Jedi...
bujoun76 2 years ago
hi starwar boy, you didnt understand what i said. What i mean is , even it is a raptor, it still have its killer.You seem like one of those american who think anything from usa is unbeatable. Let's wait and see. The same way the US said about its NightHawk. The Pentagon never talk about the weakness of their fighters until the rest of the world knows, but they already knows.
ajx245 2 years ago
you can follow the heat signatures.
douboymk2 2 years ago
Bro, who has claimed "the J-10B has been compared to the F-35 and is considered "superior to anything but the F-22""?
It's more like an F-16E/F, or a Eurofighter with AESA... not the F-35... It's stealth shaping compared to the F-35, using your eyes is easily far far less..
And the J-10A at the moment still uses the Al-31 engine... Dude don't make overly ambitious claims, it reduces your credibility... -_-
Good video though!
Blitzoace 2 years ago
Various PAF articles I've read claims it.
I don't know how the F-22 came into the equation, but there seems to be discussion about the J-10B and its striking similarity to the F-35.
The Eurofighter, if equipped with TVC and AESA and stealthy modifications, has a chance of defeating the J-10B in a dogfight.
And who told you about the F-16E? The JF-17 is the one that's been compared to the F-16E, not the J-10B. I advise you to check again.
segregator236 2 years ago
its all because of battlefield 2 lmao
the j-10 absolutely owned the f-35 in every aspect lol :D
dbell91 2 years ago 2
No it's not. Its from some articles.
But I can see where you got that from. :-)
segregator236 2 years ago
The J-10 is more maneuverable and faster than the F-35 in real life, though.
segregator236 2 years ago
the f-35 can defeat the j-10b with ease...
BulgarianInCanada 2 years ago
And your sources?
segregator236 2 years ago
the f-35 is 5th gen bro, it has stealth and an amazing radar from the raptor it will detect and kill any J-10 before the J-10 even has a clue about what's going on and in a dogfight the F-35 will use its maneuverability and Helmet Mounted Display to destroy any target...
BulgarianInCanada 2 years ago
Not exactly 5th-gen. It is partially-stealth. The J-10B has RCS of 0.3 m, which is almost stealthier than the F-35. The J-10B also has greater speed, range, manueverability and probably in avionics as well. J-10B will be fitted with anti-stealth radar.
BTW, J-10B has HMS, too
segregator236 2 years ago
J-10B is an amazing plane but I can't believe that when they have to buy almost all high-tech components from foreign countries that they supress other 5th gen planes from major countries like russia or the US.
Cothendus 1 year ago
Come on, the F 35 can't climb can't turn and can't run, that is what Senior US fighter engineer said. You want to throw your Helmet at J10? I hope you helmet can travel at the speed of sound.
ajx245 2 years ago
actually the f-35 can climb especially with that big ass F135 engine in the back and trust me it can turn too maybe not like the raptor but the enough to keep up with your ass and it will shoot you down with the HELMET DISPLAY SO IT WON'T HAVE TO GET BEHIND YOU ANYWAY...also fighters rarely achieve speeds over mach 1.5 its simply too expensive with the gas guzzling afterburner and when they do go very fast or at max speed they can only do that for about 5 min, 10 tops!
BulgarianInCanada 2 years ago
The way you talk about HMD is the same way BMW talk about their iDrive system, But after a year of its introduction, all their competitors bring up their own improved ones, go and check how does the Beemer owner feel about their idrive, all you can ask an F35 pilot about their HMD, if they want to talk to you.
ajx245 2 years ago
that's because an HMD helps a lot and the chinese J-10 is no much for the F-35 it doesn't have stealth either..
BulgarianInCanada 2 years ago
BMW doesn't get better than a Ferrari just because it get a very confusing system. A sheer fighter is there to fight not there to hide. If you want to call your f35 is a much better hider, i will be 100% agree.
ajx245 2 years ago
ok you can say whatever but in a dogfight as you say it the f-35 will win...
I CALL IT A WINNER
BulgarianInCanada 2 years ago
Sure you can think whatever, but the USAF said the f-35 was not designed for a dogfight -- it has no advantage in a dogfight thenerao, it was designed for hiding, that is the end of it.
ajx245 2 years ago
Actually, there was a british analysis ( which are pretty accurate since they got access to F-35) and they said that the F-35 is overweight despite its large engine. They say the maneuverability is similar to the F-105!!!! And, even the designer said they were not intended for combat but more for strike mission.
F-35= not very agile.
fredgt28 2 years ago
you know driving a plane and being unconcious is not a a good idea unless you want to well not live anymore
nesdrawer 2 years ago 2
Screw that! bring on the beer!
segregator236 2 years ago
@nesdrawer I don't like driving, I like flying! XD
donofdeaths 2 years ago 4
True
segregator236 2 years ago