DROID Does Times Square

[dozey0]

a phone for geeks used by geeks..

that's hilarious because u r a cave man. technology is moving forward so if ur not current u might as well use a stencil typewriter under a candle lit room .

ignorance was when we all bought 3gs just cause it plays video.. big whoop.. i hate my dropped calls so yea droid does

at&t have terrible customer service, ridiculous pricing, (insert more flaws) i got 6 months till my contract runs out. Verizon gets superb service at my school n that's all i care about atm

[ElectronicsCritics]

i love apple, in fact pretty much everything i use is apple my computer my mp3 player but recently i switched my 3gs to the droid, the 3gs didnt really introduce that many NEW and AMAZING features, and besides soon android will probably be the most used mobile phone os in the us

[eaturcrap]

@ElectronicsCritics You made that prediction a year ago, you were damn right! Android's taking over! And I love my original Droid :)

[lmtyamd]

I can't wait to see these Iphone Loyalists stay with AT&T when in a few months the exclusive contract blows up.  See you Idont get service at verizon.

[award360]

jus switched from iphone 3gs, to the HTC hero.... droid phones have so much more potential-

[Shawn2838]

Dude your an idiot, it means the Motorola Droid wasn't sold anywhere else other than in the states therefore you can't compare it's sells to the iPhone 3GS which was sold WORLDWIDE. Just enjoy your dropped calls and your 100,000 useless ifart apps.

[artixplayer]

couldn't have said it better myself.

[Shawn2838]

"Apple sells 583,333 iPhones each week, and sold 1,600,000 during the 3GS introduction week , so that's why the Droid won't have a long life."

The Droid wasn't sold worldwide like the iPhone 3GS when it was launched so those numbers doesn't matter. 250k sales for US alone is quite impressive.

[Tnoy34rt]

what is that supposed to mean? verizon is a weak company, that can't compete on the world stage?

250,000 is anemic, it simply shows the Droid has no pulse.

[Keruaran]

@Tnoy34rt You do realize that Motorola's Droid is only one of the rapidly increasing number of Linux based Android smartphones on the market don't you? Are you even remotely aware that the current explosion in the growth of Android apps is unprecedented? Are you simply ignorant or deliberately trolling?

[tnoyy34rt]

@Keruaran - yes, but the Droid hasn't sold well because of the poor user satisfaction ratings. No, actually, the iPhone has far more App development, plus a wider distribution system, more profit for developers and a strong platform for Apps. Android will end up like Linux, where it's popular with 1% of geeks, but it will never be successful with consumers.

[Keruaran]

@tnoyy34rt You should actually check your facts before replying. Despite the huge number of apps for the iPhone, it is Android that is by far the fastest growing platform. Your comment "Android will end up like Linux" relies once again on your own fallacious presupposition that Linux is not successful. Furthermore, Android IS yet another Linux based platform, so your attempt at a differentiation is also false. Whether you like it or not, Android is already successful with consumers.

[tnoyy34rt]

@Keruaran - no, the iPhone grew by 121% last quarter, the Android was only 68%. Plus the iPhone has 6 times more marketshare, so there is no way the Android can catch up at this point. The A4 iPhone comes out in 3 weeks, so that ends anyone wanting an Android because the speed will be 3 times faster than any Android device. Throw in the 210,000 Apps, the far better interface, much better graphics and the much more active developer community and the Android will meet the same fate as Linux.

[Keruaran]

@tnoyy34rt Again you are being misleading since I wasn't talking about sales growth but application growth on the Android platform (which is being spurred by enormous developer support). Android market share does not have to be greater than the iPhone for Android to be a success. Your view on Apple's next iPhone is merely your opinion and assumes the rest of the market is standing still. It isn't. And again, no platform is seeing faster application growth than Android.

[tnoyy34rt]

@Keruaran - sales growth is the only main data point developers need to look at... and while iphone app development is growing 5-6 times faster than android development, i do think the android will find a niche with geeks and nerds.

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no, i didn't offer any opinion on the 4th Gen iPhone, the specs are now mostly known and there will never be a faster phone than the iPhone from here on out since it will be running Apple's new A4 processor... which no other handset maker will have access to.

[Keruaran]

@tnoyy34rt

"sales growth is the only main data point developers need to look at"

No, it isn't. You're obviously not a developer.

"iphone app development is growing 5-6 times faster than android development"

False statement. The current rate of Android application growth is unprecedented. Anyone can Google this. Stop making false statements.

"i do think the android will find a niche with geeks and nerds"

This is nonsense since Android is already a commercial success.

[Keruaran]

Dumb things people have said:

"Everything that can be invented has been invented" - US Patent Commissioner, 1899.

"The automobile has practically reached the limit of its development" - Scientific American, 1909.

"A rocket will never leave the Earth's atmosphere" - New York Times, 1936.

"there will never be a faster phone than the iPhone" - tnoyy34rt, YouTube 2010.

[Keruaran]

@tnoyy34rt Also I find it perplexing that no matter how many times you are corrected you keep recycling and repeating the same lines in Goebbels like fashion as if repeating yourself makes it true. Your "same fate as Linux" comment once again ignores the fact that Android IS a Linux based platform. Do you suffer from a selective inability to read?

[Tnoy34rt]

That just illustrates how poor the support for the Droid actually is... we heard that exact same thing with the iPod in 2004 or so, but today, the iPod has around 72% share. The iPhone will do the same thing, so the Droid is the next Zune when you think about it.

[aantill]

And yet you can predict the market? Holy shit you are something special! They sold 250,000 in the first week is what I meant. And also, how long has the iphone been out? Just you wait and see. Google has some smart things up their sleeves so I give it about a year before the iphone is forgotten.

[Tnoy34rt]

nobody can predict a market, but we can look at past performance and see where products will end up. linux failed, and android is following the same disorganized path. the ipod took over, the iphone is doing the same, so it's easy to deduct the droid will fail especially with its poor sell through despite their massive advertising.

google will release everything for the iphone that they do for the droid, so google is no help.

the droid just doesn't have deep support, or ease of use, it's over.

[riverobenjamin]

You are very wrong... and the reason because Android phones will be better against iphone is this...

because Google/Android are not Microsoft...

Just an example... the OS.. windows against OSX microsoft sells more OS against Apple... more computers use the windows...

(and windows 7 and vista stinks) Android is the best... if Apple cant beat microsoft, do you think will beat Google... i dont think so....

[Tnoy34rt]

No, you don't understand history. The only reason MS has a large market share on PCs is because of the tricky contract with IBM back in 1981. In the cell space WinMobile has a tiny share, the Android, even a smaller fraction.

Android will end up like Linux, around 1% because the OS is inconsistent, and doesn't have the deep graphical substructure that OSX has.

Apple has far more resources than Google, plus it actually sells a physical product, Google has no expertise in that area.

[TZCT1FX]

HAHAHHAA

APPLE MORE RESOURCES THEN GOOGLE? xD!!!

[Tnoy34rt]

Yes, Google is still mainly a startup, they don't have the deep patents, the programming expertise, nor retail or product experience, and obviously not the wealth of Apple.

They are mainly a website with a few hooks into some specialized apps, but they have very little depth when comparing them to a much broader company like Apple.

Yeah, Google has about 1/20th the resources of Apple.

[antiaverage1]

Where are you getting your numbers? Last I looked, Google was outstripping Google in just about everything. Apple is at 195.50 a share, Google is at 596.27 a share. That's just trouncing them, and we're only talking stock value.

[tnoyy34rt]

Ah, Apple has far more shares, so multiply it out and that's why Apple is "worth more" than Google... look at "Market Cap"... not individual share price.

[antiaverage1]

Since when did Linux fail? It's market share is growing every month, not falling.

Also, it's "deduce" not "deduct." The Droid sales have been phenomenal, were talked about at length in the Wall Street journal.

I get the feeling you've been under a rock for the past month.

[tnoyy34rt]

Ah, early on, (2000 or so) Linux proponents were all excited that Linux was somehow going to take a large chunk out of Windows, but OS X came in 2001 and shattered their dreams. Now linux has 1%, OS X 8%

Where did I say "deduce"? that's not a word I typically use.

Droid sales are still quite low, I've seen plenty of ads, but it's been a failure so far.

[Keruaran]

@tnoyy34rt According to Microsoft's own internal numbers (leaked ages ago), GNU/Linux is used by almost 10% of the desktop market, meaning it has more market share than Apple. You don't hear about it because it cannot be measured in sales. The 1% figure is always trotted out by Microsoft boosters no matter how long ago it was surpassed. Linux is not like Windows. It is not an OS that is tied to the PC and is broadly used in all kinds of devices. It is a huge success. Also, the future is mobile.

[tnoyy34rt]

@Keruaran - but microsoft numbers aren't factual. as of last month, Linux had 1.05%, OS X, about 5.8%... look at the OS breakdowns...

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You are talking about "downloads", not actual "share"...

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Linux hasn't grown ever since OSX was released, sorry, but those are the facts.

[Keruaran]

@tnoyy34rt lol, you are using Net Application's stats! Net Applications have been whoring themselves to Microsoft for years. They are US only stats and when quizzed by the very few journalists who can actually be bothered questioning their numbers they clammed right up and refused to disclose anything. In short, Net Applications statistics belong firmly in the "we pulled the numbers out of our asses" department. Try again.

[tnoyy34rt]

@Keruaran - what are you talking about? net applications has no connection with microsoft, it's just a scanner that reports back the actual usage patters of various OSes, etc... no, it covers the entire planet, you're just bitter that linux has died in the marketplace. why are you so hate filled towards facts?

[Keruaran]

@tnoyy34rt You obviously know very little about Net Applications. I suggest you research Net Applications history with Microsoft, along with other "analyst" firms like Gartner. The statistics you cite were indeed based on US numbers only without disclosure as to how they arrived at such numbers. Furthermore, I have nothing to be "bitter" about as GNU/Linux based operating systems are highly successful. I really don't know where you're getting the "linux has died in the market place" idea from.

[tnoyy34rt]

@Keruaran - Cite your source on the connection of MS to Net Apps, there is none, you're just bitter because of the facts they present.

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No, Linux was destined to get around 5% of the market back in 2000, but after OSX was released, all the development went to Apple... Linux never recovered. Yes, Linux does have a place in embedded devices and servers, but from a consumer perspective, it died out several years ago...

[Keruaran]

@tnoyy34rt Why should I do your research for you? But you could start with Groklaw and the Combs v Microsoft case. You keep repeating that I'm bitter which is nothing more than pointless ad hominem and simply wrong since, again, I have nothing to be bitter about. OS X never killed Linux and you are the first person I have ever heard of that has suggested this. You're just trolling.

[tnoyy34rt]

@Keruaran - you made the claim, but can't back it up, so i'm not sure of why you are trying to weasel out of what you said.

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no, it's clear OSX stunted the dream of Linux ever becoming popular back in 2001, now nobody uses Linux except a few teenage boys.

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it's common knowledge that OSX wiped out Linux, do you live off the grid or something?

[Keruaran]

@tnoyy34rt Can't back up my claim? Your "nobody uses Linux except a few teenage boys" shows your trollish true colours. Such a comment is just plain silly. You must be living in an alternative universe where Hollywood studios are not dominated by Linux, Supercomputers are not dominated by Linux, webservers are not dominated by Linux, where embedded Linux is not widespread, mobile platforms like Android don't exist, and where each of the top 10 distributions don't have millions of users.

[Keruaran]

@tnoyy34rt Furthermore, In 2004, around six years ago, ZDNet and CNet were reporting that Linux had already captured 4% of the desktop market and predicted that by 2008 it would hold 8% of the desktop market. If Linux desktop market share had dropped that much in the last six years instead of increasing, or (in your own words), "died out several years ago", it would have made no sense for Dell and other OEM's to offer Linux as an OS choice.

[tnoyy34rt]

@Keruaran - those may have been "projections", but at the time Linux was just shy of 1%, today it holds 1% since OSX took over the Unix based desktop market.

[shaithis50]

@tnoyy34rt Keruaran speaks the truth about you. You have a long history of going around the internet pretending to be the resident expert on everything. You were also way off base by claiming that Apple/Macs were superior and only dumb peope used PC based equipment and windows. Almost every company I ever worked for up to working at state level jobs were all PC/Windows based. So where is the rush to switch to your superior products. You are 100% fraud and full of shit.

[Keruaran]

@tnoyy34rt During the recession at the enterprise end of the market Red Hat is one of the very few companies that grew and remained very healthy. At the consumer end, System76 who's primary business is Ubuntu Linux systems also grew strongly. If Linux is dead, how do you explain these anomalies in the mist of a recession in which Microsoft lost billions of dollars?

[tnoyy34rt]

@Keruaran - Microsoft has never lost "billions" of dollars...

[shaithis50]

@tnoyy34rt all we have to do is run a Google search on you and see where you have been and we the "poorly educated" that you call us can figure you out pretty quickly. You will lose in every argument because you are not genuine and are known to operate under multiple aliases. Problem is you sound the same everywhere you go that it has gotten old.

[Keruaran]

@tnoyy34rt There are plenty of articles you can read that call into question the validity of Net Applications statistics. You could start with an article by Sam Varghese like, "GNU/Linux: rubbery figures don't help the cause". Net Applications are deliberately evasive about their partners. But Microsoft is a large partner and client of theirs. When you talk about the likes of Net Applications, Burton Group, or Gartner, these are Analyst firms where there is a lot of Microsoft money on the table.

[SoopaAZN]

i have a droid and a zune and im doing just great...

[Tnoy34rt]

sure, they'll still "work", but they are several levels below having the best... take care.

[josuearisty]

I agree, Droid its great, 250k in a week is what any phone would desire

[Shawn2838]

250,000 sales in it's first week = fail? Hahahaha I think not my ignorant friend.

[Tnoy34rt]

Apple sells 583,333 iPhones each week, and sold 1,600,000 during the 3GS introduction week , so that's why the Droid won't have a long life.

Sorry, I'm trying to be hopeful, but the Android devices have ended up like Linux, a geek tool made for geeks, used by geeks.

Apple will own the communications markets in 6-8 years, this was all planned out decades ago.

[aantill]

I like how Tnoy34rt pulls random ass numbers straight out of his shit. Thats clearly worldwide while the are different models of the driod in America and Europe. While all Iphones are the same and their for use the same price everywhere. While the droid is North American only. and 250,000 is pretty impressive for a brand new phone.

[Tnoy34rt]

Ah, but 250,000 is tiny compared to sales of the iPhone during their initial days, months. Apple sold 1,000,000 3GS's in the first 3 days alone, now they sell around 2,400,000 a month, so the Droid has been a market failure.

Yes, Sorry that you don't like cold hard facts.

But the Android is going to end up like Linux, just a bunch of teenage kids masturbating to it, but very few real world sales.

[antiaverage1]

The 3GS was not the first iPhone. You're comparing apples and oranges.

The website you're on right now, YouTube, runs on a Linux backbone. The majority of the web runs on Linux. So, I don't know where you're getting at with the Linux falsehoods.

Also, you do realize that Mac OS X is based in the same core as Linux, right? Both Linux and Mac OS X are Unix operating systems.

[tnoyy34rt]

Sure, Linux is used for servers, but it will never be widely used by the pubic on desktops, laptops or phones.

And no, Linux is Linux... while OSX is based on BSD using the Mach Kernel.

So they don't have the same "core", Linux is "unix like", while OSX is a true, certified UNIX.

[Animalabusesucks1990]

yeah linux is different.

[MikeDMinor]

@tnoyy34rt Care to revise this statement????

[tnoyy34rt]

@MikeDMinor - revise what statement? if i posted it, it was an established fact.

[macindrew]

The Droid has sold poorly, another failed attempt against the much better product, the iPhone.

[Darthwannabe]

You can keep being breastfed by Apple and the Apple store, but the rest of us will pass, and buy a Droid or other Android phones....

[peber13]

apparently a shadow is cast by some sign that says "Droid Does" at Times Square. that's what i got out of this video

[hackbase2009]

i like the droid,wbut what is this?

[marquesbrownlee]

DROID pwns!

[metscards13]

Droid rocks

[AndrewInCali]

1st wooo... Cool vid - Great phone.

Drooooiid