Hippies Are Retarded - Hydrogen, Electric, & Nuclear Energy

[ShpinxiLotus23]

fukushima. 

[okokwegetit22]

I came into university with a left minded mentality and am now graduating with a more central minded mentality. Thank you for posting this I couldn't agree more.

[MmoComando]

totally agree. btw greenhouse effect doesnt exist. it was forcasted by gore that qoute

un-quote" if we dont stop global warming it will by armegadon by 2014". Its 2012 weres the "armegadon".

did you know your'e radioactive. Carbon-14. and there is a LOT of it in people. Wene hiroshima Nagasaki was nuked people had there carbon 14 thrown against walls. it LEFT a shadow. ITs natural. Nothing to fear. Everyone has it in them. radiation IS matter. Beta particles are nutreons.

[REYNwashere]

Dont listen to all these haters, youre just a dude speaking your mind and hey i totally agree with allot of the stuff youre saying. :)

[skolic85]

First, learn to speak without acting like PARANOID and saying 'f*cking' all the time. Annoying man! Using Nuclear energy may be more efficient for the world, but not safe at all. Just consider the fact that if it goes wrong, it goes REALLY WRONG! Humans make mistakes and it seems that we don't learn much from them. Why not considering using Geothermal power? The world is just too greedy to consider green energy, cuz the big guys will not earn much from it. It's all about the money! :)

[HollylovesTrent]

well...hydrogen is one of the most abudant elements on planet earth...because it comes from water and water is everywhere >_> and i don't under stand how something that turns into water vapor causes global warming...and also if you have hydrogen fuel cars you get better gas milage and not everybody is breathing in CO2 while breathing in water vapor isn't at all as dangerous humans. >_> damn republicans. ☮&♥

[Fuunken]

Not bad, but with radiation you still only get what? 33% energy conversion? Mining the moon is where it's at....Barring sudden discovery of a practical means to create anti-matter

[crazygeek777]

"find a replacement for lumber and paper"

hemp

done. 

[cowboysfan782008]

Good video! It is refreshing to see that there are still young people that "get it".

[PeaceeLoveeCookiees]

Is there a connection between a sub-culture and mental retardation? No. Grow up, read a book. What is wrong with a liberal group who dress colourfully, take care of the environment and spread peace and non-violence? They don't hurt anybody.

Peace. 

[tappakeggaday1]

called arbor day,tell them let them cut down the tree,, your there to plant another one in its place

[kapa1611]

there are different kinds of radiation.. and yes the sun does produce radiation that s harmful to us, but most of it is blocked out by the atmosphere! the radiation that s produced by nuclear power plants is the dangerous kind!!! and it fucking stays here for a loooooong time

[kapa1611]

why not just plant more trees somewhere else... then it doesnt really matter how many we cut down! ..unless the rainforest.. these trees take some time to grow

[crazyskater4]

how is hydrogen fuel bad? it gives off water vaper

[wadereed27]

god hippies are stupid they think its bad to kill trees they will protest and then go snork some cocaine does that make any god damn sense at all

[rastyah]

@wadereed27 if u dont know have many,many hippies dont use any drugs!peace*

[unclepoepoe]

ha ha ha yes, water vapor is responsible for 75% of the greenhouse effect. Carbon Dioxide is responsible for a mere 3%

[civilizationsss]

nuclear waste half-lie is the millions.

[adsc19876]

perfect eco cycle.

nuclear power plant

and hydrogen factory

hydrogen factory makes car fuel and power for homes

nuclear power + hydrogen is the way forward.

[BMUHTDER]

The problem isn't hippies in general. The problem is the few dumb shits that mess it up for the rest of us.

Nuclear energy is definitely the way forward. But the dead-rods need to be re-used some how in order to make it sustainable.

I'm sorry that you had a bad experience with your student body. But please don't attack 'hippies' in general. That's like saying all Americans are dumb, fat, and annoying...just sayin' :-)

[HellFireKane]

Global warming is the equivalent of selling big foot t -shits and snake oil.

People make a lot of money from morons that buy into that crap.

[Deadleader555]

Nice video man..

Btw, i'm pretty left, and even tho i dont like to label my self anything, i guess for most i would fall into the "liberal" cathegory... but yea, i'm not a bullshit brainwashed dogmatic hippie... so i pretty much agree with most of what you said..

[mikedcaffey]

hahahaah i started to listen to this, just for a cheap laugh. Try writing before you talk next time man, you sound like you just got out of middle school.

[cromansky]

I understand! You'll love Michael Savage and Mark Lavin. You can get their show on podcast or streaming. Savage calls hippies dogs who want to play all day and eat for free but are missing the loyalty. Keep learning and when you debate them, smile and laugh when they say something stupid. I almost had a hippie throw a punch at me because he was pushing "no fur" and was wearing leather boots. Priceless. Of course, he saved his face by holding back. I would've taken him apart.

[lukestuffy]

Just so you know, I think global warming is just a way to scare the public. I come from a small logging town in Montana and I grew up on timber dollars. I hate nothing more than the PETA freaks standing there ridiculing everyone while they're standing there in their Birkenstocks having to take pills just to keep their shit solid. They will bitch about logging, but I'll just bet they still use toilet paper.

[whmacleod]

Pretty good vlog. looks like you were in class educating yourself while the tree hugging shit throwing hippies were sitting in a dead tree acting like primates.

[b0mbcityrocker]

maybe if you werent retarded you would know that free energy is much more efficient, and its FREE. using magnetics you can power everything alot better than nuclear energy which is part of the bullshit thats burning a fucking hole in our ozone, ignorant fucks like you make me sick, attacking hippies, sure some of them are permafried tree huggers, but just because they want to live life freely and not under control you think you have the right to attack them! nazi...

[dergin38467]

how does that make him a nazi

[b0mbcityrocker]

lol, it doesnt, i just felt like calling someone a nazi... and someone with narrow minded views such as himself makes him a good candidate, lol... but everything before the word nazi is true... the government doesnt use free energy because they cant make money off of it

[KevlarTheBand]

oh no another one pulis the old narrow minded thing! shut your punk ass up ill kick your ass. most republicans i know took the time to study both parties and choose for them selves so shut the fuck up most democtrats are taught there bullshit from the media

and hippies are fucking animals that should be extirminated they are hypocritical commusist pigs

[b0mbcityrocker]

lol, kevlar.. you fucking tool, do you know why so much people in politics choose republican? BECAUSE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS MORE CONTROLING. whos the fucking pig now? republicans are fucking idiots and theyre the kind of people who are against gay marriage and the harmless plant known as marijuana... but you know, alcohol is legal... it must be so much better... (notice how marijuana makes people go to sleep and hungry and booze gets people into fights and car wrecks?) ... lol... idiot

[KevlarTheBand]

whos the pig now?

you are shithead

thats the only thing i have to say to you because your a hypocrit and your fucking close minded

i actually hope president obamas (yeah i say PRESIDENT before his name. notice how i show respect unlike you dicksneezes call a president "Bush". no matter how much you hate the president show some respect cock sucker) financial ideas work and i hope that he is succesful. did i want him to win,no. do i want him to lose causing the fall of my beautifal country? no.

[TruthThroughSarcasm]

I am just wondering, have you watched the news lately? I know this was 3 months ago but come one. Are you really this inept? Obama is forming a citizens military for more government power, more government jobs for more central power, more bills being passed with insane liberal agendas for more power. Think with your brain not your ass. Republicans fundamentally is for less gov, Democrats want to have more government.

Obama is against gay marriage and legal marijuana. You are smart. =)

[b0mbcityrocker]

apparently i support obama now? i hate right wing. i support no form of government... but i will support a good leader, why dont you check out my channel and you will see i have the video " the obama deception" favorited, and its obviously been there for a while, however i think the guy who made this video is a dink, plus, mccain was against gay marriage and marijuana too

[xXxDragunov14xXx]

Are you fucking retarded? It's the left wingers who push for more power in governments hands - they're the ones that want everyone controlled by the man. Conservatives want LIMITED control, because unlike all you stupid fucking liberals we have a brain that can think on its own.

[b0mbcityrocker]

umm, study up on your politics you idiot.

consrvative/rightwing generally = authoritarian government, so go fuck yourself idiot, try searching up "political compass" that might help your confused feeble mind understand a few thing

[xXxDragunov14xXx]

You're fucking retarded, and your grammar resembles a 6 year old's.

Conservatives generally want less government, more private industry. Liberals want more government involvement with socialism, and less private industry.

Why else would all the conservatives be bitching about socialism if we wanted more government while the liberals rejoice?

OMG! You're so fucking stupid just like every other liberal - you don't even know what your own agenda is! XD

Could you be any more brain-washed? XD

[TheMenyun]

@KevlarTheBand LMAO I know this is way old but seriously? I'd like to see you try and kick someones ass and not some small nerd either someone your exact size.. you really sound like you have a small man complex. Republican Democrat both stupid.. and are actually unconstitutional bet you didn't know George Washington told the leaders he left in charge that he didn't want political parties cause it would divide the nation... and the hippy thing /sigh, read up on that you couldnt be more off base

[cromansky]

Hey retard, many planets with atmospheres have holes in those atmospheres over the poles. It's the magic of magnets. I throw shit at you.

[UTubekookdetector]

Good vid. Fossil fuels are the reason our country's way of life has dramatically improved over the last 70+ years. We need more nuclear energy, it has no greenhouse gas emissions and will provide a LOT more energy than a useless wind farm or a swath of solar panels out in the desert. Liberal environmentalism is a joke.

freewebs..com/professor_enigma­/bigoil..htm

[Papscal]

Well said Cell.

[lukestuffy]

I agree with most of what you say, but from a non hippie point of view... I think we need to find a way to not DEPEND on fossil fuels. there needs to be more than one way to skin the proverbial cat. I care more about my wallet than about the opinions of environmentalists on global warming. I just think there needs to be a smarter way to get the same results, such as the power you used to record your video. I want to keep my dollars. I don't want the oil companies making record profits on mine.

[cromansky]

It's smarter for your wallet to go with fossil fuels. Unless, of course, the fuels are over regulated by the environmentalist nutcase government. Oh, and if it weren't for global warming, we'd still be in the ice age. The sun is hot and it warms the earth. When we're farther from the sun, a phenomenon that occurs every so often, we have an ice age. It's just warm now. It'll cool off again. Just like the Northern Hemisphere will warm up shortly for summer, just on a much larger playing field.

[fireye2012]

You need to spend some more time exploring the alternative energies before you go advocating such a toxic, deadly form of power as nuclear.

There are so many much simpler and basic ways to make power. There are thousands of free energy patents in the u.s. patent office. Besides....do you really think in college they are going to tell you about things they don't want you to know about? Trace the route and learn about WHO printed up the books you studied. You learned censored information.

[Doversreturn]

I thought the sun was main reason for global temperature(pointing out the obvious)!I subscribe to the belief Based on previous evidence IE past known global temps that this global warming fear mongering is bullshit!30 years ago we were supposed to be on the verge of an ice age!I'ts a bit arrogant to think we make that much difference!

[Hedning1390]

There are so much wrong with what you are saying:

1 The hydrogen car is using fuel cells instead of batteries. If rechargeable batteries are developed faster than fuel cells are there will be no need for hydrogen cars. and btw electrolysis is very easy.

2 Water vapor is a very potent greenhouse gas, but there is a huge difference between that and co2. It is called condensation, yes, water vapor condensates. It doesn't even have to leave the car as vapor.

[Hedning1390]

3 The electric engine, even with losses within the powerplant, in the powerlines, in the battery and in the engine, is way more efficient than the current combustion engine.

You yourself is promoting nuclear power, why not use that power to power your cars? My countrys powerplants are about 50% nuclear power, 40% hydroelectricity and only 3.5% fossil fuel. You could compensate your lack of hydroelectricity with more nuclear power.

It is quite easy to have a close to carbon free society.

[kahunakronik]

but i do agree with your stance of nuclear and radiation there isnt a reason for those plants not being built.

but i dont think all hippies are against that

[kahunakronik]

first you gotta realize that we are in the process of going to green sustainable electricity to provide the energy to make the hydrogen. your hydrogen thing is bullshit water vapor contributing to global warming? no. it falls down as rain dumb ass... just like when you boil water.

first we get on solar/wind/tidal/geothermal then we gotta use excess energy to make hydrogen. to run a society you pretty much need a fuel and a source of energy

[joerules22]

I have to finish watching videos before I comment hahah.

[joerules22]

you do realize most of the universe is hydrogen right?

[CrackerXZ]

Electricity is produced mostly by fossil fuels, but not only. So electricity is more ecological than oil.

[orclv]

agreed with the Nuclear Energy 100%

and the electric car is 4 the future

clean electric = clean car

we are not ready yet :D

[Celladore0]

I am using my education. I currently attend graduate school for a physics PhD and one promising field which I may enter is better, cleaner, energy production. I apologize if my pragmatism about our current status in this field offends you.

[wow9825]

its nice that you have a education. here is something to think about, quite complaining about byproducts from other people ideas and come up with a solution that works, your educated use the knowledge and come up with a solution that works or helps. first everything we do on this planet comes from this planet. we just change what is already there. here is a solutoin that works solar cells. what are the down sides to using those?

[Celladore0]

I did suggest a solution that works... nuclear power. The downside to solar cells (currently) is that they are extremely difficult to produce (in terms of resources) and notoriously inefficient. Solar power is promising no doubt, but not substantial enough to supply power to the entire world. Solar cells are also an immense land polluter, in addition to windmills.

[wow9825]

what do we do with the nuclear waste that these power plants produce?

[allismind]

haha i go to UCSC... yeah i remember those tree sitters, they stayed there for a while...

[Nichen]

lol you´re the retarded one

[SuperiorMind]

I agree with you about hydrogen and strongly about using nuclear -- thorium is looking promising. I think most ppl understand that electric cars indirectly produce some emmisions. The gridz won't be oil-based forever and the effeciency is still far far greater. Nuclear - grid upgrades - electric carz. That's what I say. ;p Overall - excellent vid - 5/5

[ourben]

Actually, 100% of the universe is radioactive... but still, radiation isn't okay. I appreciate there are people who don't know what it is, but it's a barefaced lie to say it's completely safe.

Your points on water vapour and fossil fuel fired power stations are completely narrow minded and undermine your audience. Like CO2, water vapour is a problem when it's in the wrong place, however you know full well that H2O gas can be managed far better than CO2.

I'll spare you the rest...

[Celladore0]

I never, ever, said radiation is completely safe! Where are people getting this notion? What do you mean H20 vapor can be managed far better than C02? In fact, H20 leaves the atmosphere slower than CO2 and is a relatively non reactive substance. Please clarify. Also, what do you mean 100% of the universe is radioactive, much of the inert matter in the vacuum of space is H and H2, He, and other non radioactive gases.

[ourben]

People get that notion because you rant and rave about how clean, good and safe nuclear power is.

I'm not talking about which leaves the atmosphere first, I'm talking about how easily it can be reused. H2O can be made to condense pretty damn easily.

And I'll have to come back to you about the radioactivity of inert gases; you won't believe me unless I name other people who say it. (hah)

[ellisaaron528]

thank you bro

you should check out penn and teller bullshit really great show and like the name says it cuts right through the bullshit

thankss again

[martialdrake]

If you had developed your arguments a bit more this could have been a decent video;

but you spout of to many half truths;

just like the hippies you are arguing against.

[Celladore0]

As you can see by the length of the video, I had to edit it down considerably in order to abide by the 10 minute rule youtube enforces. If you have a questions feel free to comment, and I would be happy to reply.

[T850CSM101a1676]

I think if I saw a hippy, I would have it's genitals smashed, and have it forced to inhale carbone dioxide.

[brksailor]

I'm sorry for posting again, but I just noticed down the comments that you have already responded to some of the questions that I posted.

You might consider how dangerous it is to blast technologies like electric cars without talking about the benefits. Some may misunderstand you. I got that you were talking about the 'electric cars cause no polution' people, but some may not.

[brksailor]

As far as the electric car goes. Although I agree that to say that electric cars have no environmental impact is silly, what evidence do you have that they pollute more than gas powered cars? Have any reliable studies been done on this? Why don't you think they are a better alternative?

The big question I have about electric cars, is the impact of batteries that have to be replaced in them. 10 years or so down the road are there disposal/recycling issues?

[brksailor]

Hello there. I have really enjoyed your videos. Especially your rebuttals to DonExodus2. I thought I was the only one who saw how irrational he is.

I am convinced that pushing hydrogen fuel is a way for powers that be to keep us on gasoline while this magical technology is always 15-20 years away.

But, on to the actual point. I am confused about nuclear energy. I would disagree that you can compare radiation from the sun to nuclear waste. Or am I uninformed? They are different.

[Celladore0]

Hi brksailor,

Glad you enjoyed the videos. There are a few typical types of harmful radiation from radioactive material. Alpha, Beta, and Gamma radiation- an ejected helium nucleus, electron, and photon respectively. While all three forms of radiation are present in the sun and radioactive waste, most of the exposure we get here on earth from the sun is gamma. In addition, cosmic rays from elsewhere in the universe can also expose humans to small amounts of all three types of radiation.

[brksailor]

Is your point that the average person will get more 'harmful' radiation in their life from natural sources and everyday appliances than from nuclear waste? I could dig that point man! :)

[Celladore0]

It depends how close you get to nuclear waste. If you don't work directly with it, then yes you will receive far more radiation from everyday things than from treated and buried nuclear waste. However the point I was trying to get across is that the public stigmatizes radiation and nuclear power without fully understanding it. Most don't realize that there is radiation around them at all times, and that nuclear waste disposal is actually a pretty safe thing.

[Gringoman911]

It was the Chernobyl incident that terrified people away from nuclear power,Its fear of a melt down and terrorism that causes people to oppose the construction of new power plants in municipalities.

[Gringoman911]

Penn and Teller made a episode on the bullshit hippie movement and the baloney that has wrapped itself into universities,They did a skit were they tricked Hippies into signing a petition to ban water.

[Celladore0]

They also did one on nuclear power :).

[wemustdissent]

Ok although its true that electricity for electric cars are produced by fossil-fuel burning power plants would you at least acknowledge that those powerplants are much more efficient than a cars combustion engine thereby reducing the amount of fossil fuel needed to power a vehicle?

As for people needing to learn about radiation i actually work in a lab and I handle radioactive materials. To say that radioactive waste is somehow not dangerous is patently absurd.

[wemustdissent]

Just so my comment isnt all critical of your video I happen to agree about the tree thing ;-)

[Celladore0]

I also work in a silicone strip detector lab with radioactive materials. One of our main beta sources is Strontium 90, a common byproduct in nuclear reactors. I in no way shape or form suggested that radioactive waste is not dangerous, but rather that the methodology by which we dispose of said waste is more safe and less harmful than the average person seems to think.

[Celladore0]

Wemustdissent-

Yes I do admit that electric cars are claimed to be technically more efficient in terms of miles per kilowatt than gasoline engines. While battery production remains extremely expensive in terms of resources, I believe this will improve in the future. Let me note again that I am not opposed to electric cars, but would like to change the method of electricity generation to more renewable sources and nuclear power.

[wemustdissent]

I dont think we are in disagrement then. However the way you approached the topic was to blast something completely unrelated then. Its one thing to say people are focused on the wrong thing its another to take the thing they are focused on and try to undermine it in what i considered a disengenous manner. Electric vehicles and hydrogen-fuel cells ARE viable ways to increase our energy efficiency.

[wemustdissent]

Now i get your point that where our energy supply comes from is more important than how we use it downstream. I also can see a point in arguing that we should focus first on the supply rather than the demand. However what this video is is you just telling us how stupid people are without actually spending more than 30 seconds on what you think the issue is or how we should address it. Makes for good drama I suppose but I didnt get much content.

[wemustdissent]

In otherwords the "fact" that hippies are retarded does not in anyway present an argument for why electric cars are not a viable way of curbing demand for a limited resource. The arguments for why that isnt a viable way that you presented were frankly falacious, poor, or misrepresented as have been pointed out in numerous other comments.

Fact is that power plants are more efficient than combustion engines and therefore using electricity is "cleaner" no matter what the source (even coal).

[wemustdissent]

Also when disposing of nuclear waste its the half-life that determines the amount of cost associated with disposal. Strontium-90 has a relatively short half-life if i recall correctly (in the range of decades) versus much of the material produced in a fission reaction.

I assume much of the aversion to using Nuclear Power comes not from the hippies but from the power companies themselves that dont want to deal with the disposal costs. I might be wrong but that would make sense wouldnt it?

[tooltime9901]

I am not a hippie by the way

an alternative for paper is hemp (not marijuana)

[Celladore0]

Yeah I have heard this also, but the US is too scared to allow serious hemp farms to produce paper because the two plants are closely related. *Bangs head into the table*

[Gringoman911]

The marijuana prohibition is bullshit, Were a little more moderate on that subject in Canada as hemp farming is not illegal up here.

Thats a nice subject for you to cover in your next video.

[brksailor]

Hemp farming in Canada is highly regulated though. The government regulates the size of hemp farms to being very small. It is not like you can just grow hemp. Canada is not much more enlightened on hemp than the US is.

[VonSchnutze]

I don't have a problem with hippies sitting in ancient trees. Throwing feces at loggers sounds like a good time...throwing feces at anyone sounds good to me. I was with you on the hydrogen cars until you started with the vapors. I like electric cars. I think you would if we built more power plant. Instead of nuclear, what about wind farms, hydroelectricity, solar, and geothermal. The tools exist, but someone locked the toolbox.

[Odziz]

'So if you've got any poo throw it now' and to all other sentient beings out there 'The idea is to bang the rocks together guys'

[Boldhome]

"The tools exist, but someone locked the toolbox." YES! Joe Public thinks the tech isn't there but most solutions to our energy problems have had the tech worked out years ago. It's implementation that's the problem. The energy sector is not an even playing field.

The answer is not more power plants, it's using our energy resources far more efficiently. Some estimates say that a ten-fold increase in useful work we get out of every watt of power is possible. A four-fold increase is do-able now.

[klangsteiner]

You have obviously done less than 2 minutes of research on hydrogen fuel cell cars and the research being done on hydrogen production.

[Boldhome]

(cont)

Nuclear is absolutely the worst choice. No reactors are being built not because of hippies (though the NIMBY factor is there) but because no venture capitalists are dumb enough to touch it. There is more micropower (small hydro, bio waste, wind and solar) generating capacity in the world today than nuclear and it is growing about seven times faster. Nuclear is ridiculously expense. The US Fed gov has offered a 100+% subsidy and still no one will touch it. Money tells the truth.

[Odziz]

I totally agree BoldHome, Nuclear is a NO NO!

Micro generation is the answer, its localised and not prone to grid failure and it is gridable.

[Celladore0]

Boldhome

Your right in the sense that micropower is a great way to go, but I have doubts that it will be able to fully provide enough power for the world's energy consumption right now - not to mention what society will need in the future with developing countries.

Nuclear plants are more expensive to build, but very cheap to operate. Whether the overall cost per kilowatt is higher or lower than fossil fuels depends on how long the plant runs for.

[Boldhome]

The figures I've seem say prohibitively expensive to build (with an alarming "lemon" rate) and expensive to operate, especially when the cost of waste management is included (and it must be for a true economic comparison, no free-riders!) I just can't find the report with the figures in question on my computer!

The main point is that with true mass efficiency the whole debate becomes irrelevant. The answer to the false dichotomy of energy or environment is, of course, none of the above.

[Boldhome]

Fee fi fo fippy, boy I hate a hippy. Yet I am a liberal and an environmentalist. They are not the same thing and I'm tired of the two things being conflated. You want to see a hard core, hard nosed environmentalist check out Amory Lovins at the Rocky Mountain Institute.

Hydrogen is not an energy source, it's an energy storage system, nothing else. It bugs me how hippies miss that point.

The electric car is just a way of making energy use in the transport sector fungible. (cont)

[LaughingOtoko]

Hydrogen fuel cell does not 'burn' hydrogen. Hydrogen fuel cell is basically a Rechargeable battery.

Water + electricity = hydrogen + air

Hydrogen + air = water + electricity

And your are contradicting your self.

Electricity requires polluting power plants.

Nuclear power plants don't pollute.

???????????

[Odziz]

Lets correct a little bit of chemistry here:

Water = H2O

Water + Electricity + Electrolysis = 2 x H + O

Hydrogen + Oxygen + Fuel Cell = Electricity + H2O

So what do you call the radioactive waste and what do you call all the radioactive materials when the plant is decommissioned ? If it doesn't pollute can we build one in your back yard and bury the waste there when we have finished ?

Didn't think so.

[Celladore0]

The chemical equations you just gave show that using water and electrolysis for hydrogen can never yield back the amount of electricity it takes to create - else we would have free energy.

[Odziz]

That's exactly the point, you need 6 times the amount of energy in to produce 1 unit of energy out. That's why I don't support hydrogen. I was just correcting his mistake. Air from water, didn't this guy go to school. If he did he must have met thm coming out.

[Celladore0]

I am not suggesting we bury nuclear waste in your backyard. My point was, there is radioactive material beneath EVERYONES backyard in the mantle of the earth. If we bury the waste in a deep isolated place - no one would ever be the wiser.

[Celladore0]

Hi Laughing

Your absolutely right, my burning hydrogen analogy was way oversimplified, but the net result - namely the production of water vapor from oxygen and hydrogen - is still the same. So my point still stands. Regarding polluting power plants, I was pointing out that modern plants burn fossil fuels for electricity which emits greenhouse gas. Nuclear power does not "burn" anything of the sort, and so in that sense, is clean.

[crescendo2020]

Hmmm...hippies are retarded...I agree. Liberalism is gay, and conservativism as well. Many things are gay and retarded.

[oneiros666]

Interesting point, dude. But I would like to see your source regarding water vapour being more conducive to global warming than C02.

[Celladore0]

Oneiros666

A simple wiki search will answer your question.

"The most important greenhouse gases are: * water vapor, which causes about 36--70% of the greenhouse effect on Earth. (Note clouds typically affect climate differently from other forms of atmospheric water.) * carbon dioxide, which causes 9--26% * methane, which causes 4--9% * ozone, which causes 3--7%"

You can also just look at the electromagnetic absorption spectrum of water and compare it with CO2