Weisel.....the Weasel mentioned in 7:50. That fucker has already been discredited. These two crossfire fucks were cock blocking Zundel from giving a full answer. Freedom of Speech my ass.
I watched this movie called 180movie it was very good, it compares the holocaust with abortion watch this award winning documentary and see where you stand at the end. At least watch the trailer and see if you are interested.
Look up 180 movie on youtube or 180movie.com
If you are thinking of having an abortion this is a must see.
What I wonder when I'm watching a video like this is how can those interviewers/TV-hosts live with themselves? Did they ever get any regrets for treating Zundel (and I'm sure tons of others) this way? They don't even let him answer properly because they know they are totally out classed!
80 something KIDS murdered in cold blood and it barely made the news. These were kids who were rallying for the palestinian childrens fund. Then they get slaughtered. This zionist media is evil. pure evil.
ERNST ZUNDEL...IS SPEAKING THE TRUTH....!!! THE WHOLE WORLD IS AWAKENING TO THE TRUTH THAT JEWS ARE BEHIND 911...JEWISH MOSSAD HAS JUST KILLED 80 WHITE CHRISTIAN KIDS IN THE OSLO,NORWEY !!! REAL TERRORISTS ARE JEWS AND ISRAHELL !!!! THAT IS A FACT !!! THE TRUTH !!!
NEVER TRUST A JEW !!!! YOU CAN ONLY TRUST A DEAD JEW !!! ONLY DEAD JEWS SAY THE TRUTH !!!
I agree with all of what you say, but I don't advocate the murder of Jews. Ernst Zundel is speaking the truth. Sadly, it's a truth that will have a hard time getting diffused because the Zionist controlled mass media would never let it get that far. As long as people continue to watch "American Idol" and care about fucking Kim Kardashian they will never get their heads out of the sand far enough to become inquisitive about these issues.
Looks like he's facing The Grand Inquisitor in form of those two colorless lifeless assholes. Is that in interview? Looks like a bloody trial to me. So much for the freedom of speech.
I'm not sure if he's right about the so called holocaust but I am convinced that Ernst Zundel is superior in intelligence compared to his interviewers.
I love his response to the childish question made @9:11
"Mr. Zundel, are you under psychiatric care?"
Mr. Zundel: " ...I have no history of mental illness, and don't propose to develop one here tonight on this program."
What an eloquent way to deal with such a degenerate question!
@NoFaithInFolklore, Like I just told tokacola ernst Zundel is a neo nazi who supports neo nazi groups worldwide. He uses programs like this to spread his hateful agenda! In other words moron, Zundel is the degenerate!!!
Any country that claims to have freedom of speech is being deceptive. How was Germany any different?
Ernst Zundel doesn't spread hate, he only encourages people to look for the truth.
You're so worried about defending holocaust (mass destruction by fire), why don't you defend the innocent people who were burned to death by atomic fire in Nagasaki and Hiroshima during WWII?
@NoFaithInFolklore, Ernst Zundel doesn't spread hate!!!! What planet do you live on, venus? The man is a neo nazi. He denies the holocaust and promotes nazism, thats spreading hatred. By the way, I agree that the people of Japan were victims of a horrible act of war, but they were not victims of a genocide. Plus idiot I don't need to defend the victims of the atom bomb since nobody denies that event happened!!
@holocaustdefender33 "Plus idiot I don't need to defend the victims of the atom bomb since nobody denies that event happened!!"
But, nobody calls the atomic fire deaths of the Japanese a holocaust, even though it fits the definition much more accurately than the people who died in Nazi death camps. Do you ever stop and wonder why that is?
The answer as to why nobody calls the atomic fire deaths of the Japanese a holocaust while calling the death of Jews in Europe one is because Jews have even been able to unconsciously make Gentiles believe that the life of a Jew is more valuable than that of a Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or any other ethnic or religious group. Jews are the biggest racists in the world. The hardliner Jews hate anyone who isn't Jewish so fiercely it probably turns their stomach just to be in the same room as them.
You think that a man who actually believes there was free speech in germany during WW2 has superior intelligence!! If Zundel had superior intelligence he wouldn't be a neo nazi or a holocaust denier because he would be educated!!!
@ 5:35 'Mr. Zundel, don't you know that when you say there was free speech in Germany, when there's records of journalists, of authors going into concentration camps don't you know that you discredit your whole argument?'
Then by that argument you should know that there's no freedom of speech in Canada either since they locked up Mr. Zundel for stating his opinion!
Fucking idiot news interviewers wont even let him finish... they just keep trying to bringing forth emotional backed fake bullshit. Who's that slimely jew that thought he was being clever by asking him if he had a psyche test? What an absolute piece of shit that guy was.
0% Journalism there, only suppression of the truth. Ernst Zundel is my hero!
these jewish assholes say that they found "blue prints" of gas chambers....and then laugh when zundel stated they were doctored....now, almost 30 yrs later, its come out in the light that john Demjanjuk's nazi documents were fabricated....
I don't know who is right or who is wrong.But I can see that these "journalist" have their mind made up.They are trying to get the other one to screw up and they seem desperate.What I don't like about this is that o-k they had camps.But they seem to forget that it was not only Jews who were in them.There where soldiers,prisoners who where sent there.Seems to me no one existed except the Jews.They like being martyrs well there going to get it. the middle east is not going to become democratic.
It's BRILLIANT the way Mr. Zundel just smiles and doesn't let them bully him and doesn't get angry after they just throw empty insults at him. His behaviour and his the behaviour of the questioners are proof enough, and all the audience will attest to this, that Mr. Zundel is right and the two men are puppets.
@TokaCola, Ernst zundel is a neo-nazi who publishes a pamphlet full of nazi propaganda and supports neo nazis groups around the world. He uses his so-called Freedom of speech to spread his hateful agenda!
Haha, that swarthy guy in this video that questions Zundel's mental-health is a jewboy ("Robert Novak's parents had a Jewish background"), I just looked it up because he was so fierce, doing personal attack than argue, and he got that ugly look, so I really suspected that he was one of those crooked... Really "objective" journalists, LOL!
While no one in America really gives a shit about Jews in general, you would think a paid-for and threatened media loves them. The only people that speak well of Jews are themselves, those paid-off and those threatened. It's taken just a little over a generation for American media to loose their balls.
@whatthehell81 What are you. Some born after the Berlin Wall nazis? You people are a stupid joke. Calling people a paid jew, zionist, whatever. For your information. Have Scandinavian blood whose family is Lutheran. You guys call everyone a jewboy. Am not jewish. You probably have more jewish blood than I do. But, am not a fool. Which you people show everytime you speak!
Just take a look at jrwel14 ´s channel. Than you will realize that he is an desinformant agent.
Thats the funny or dangerous thing: We do this for free, in an quest for truth. These people got payed for lying, but are much less.
On the other hand. When you take another step in the rabbit hole, than you see that they even want to motivate people in agitating them to fight against jrwel14 and others, so the focus in on their actions. Therefore getting energy in or for whatever they do.
Haven't ever seen Zundel loose his cool. In a hundred years from now, when the world tires from Jewish and Zionist domination, people will look to him and wonder why he was not believed.
@Surbrus there was censorship in allied countries too doesn't invalidate the fact that germany was also censored, it just means that censorship was more popular in the world back then. This trick used by Zundel is not answering the question, it's avoiding it. I agree that there was censorship and still is censorship in allied countries, especially in canada where it is illegal to say anything that isn't liberal (hate speech)... but that doesn't change the fact that germany was censored.
Its incediblly telling when you knwo that the new tork times on the 20th of may '45 said "6 million jews found in hidden fatories". Not a word a bout six million dead. Then 5th and 6th of august of that year america drops two nuclear bombs on nagusaki and hiroshima. Then the headlines read "6million jews perish at the hand of the nazi regime". No american newpaper headlines about the recent american atrocity, if thats not deflecting blame and criticim i dont know what is.
Yea I didn't see any cross fire here. I saw the typical stuff. Instead of debating with facts, don't let him speak and hurl insults. The typical one call him a lunatic. I've heard that over and over again by the Jewish controlled media.
@mattersofsize When he does speak. He shows himself to be a fool. Notice how when they ask about freedom of speach in nazis germany. Zundel changes it to West germany?
Do we any more proof the media is under zionist control? They will do anything to preventing people from knowing the truth. Just look how they tried to attack him and questioned whether he is smart enough to write a book. There were gas chambers this is a proven lie.
This is by no means a decent interview! they aska question and then they shout over him! how can anyone make a point when they only ask to jump down their throat. Zundel may be a bit biast towards Hitler which i dont agree with however the man knows his stuff inside out and is extensively well read on both sides of the issue. These two guys are biast too. Except they are not extensively well informed on bith sides of the arguemnt hence they shouting and cheap shtots. discgracfrul.
"Or, as that 1 guy on the CODOH website said. Even if it did happen. Let's get people to question it anyway!"
Sounds good to me. What's wrong with questioning anything? If it's true, the facts will stand up to scrutiny and the story validated. What are Holocaust people like yourself so afraid of?
"Or, as that 1 guy on the CODOH website said. Even if it did happen. Let's get people to question it anyway!"
Sounds good to me. What's wrong with questioning anything? If it's true, the facts will stand up to scrutiny and the story will be validated. What are Holocaust people like yourself so afraid of?
@Debaser11 Never said the gunman killed 6. said 4. But, you people deny ALL those who were killed . Not just jews. But, non-jews. And, being a non-jew. Find that very offensive. Guess the killing of the non-jews was okay. My final comment. is that I have learned alot more about what happened during the war. So, to you and others like you. Thanks for giving me and others I have talked to more reasons to be glad Hitler was stopped! vielen Dank!
There was no freedom of Speech in Nazis Germany. Zundel, speaking,"THere was lots of freedom of opinion in WEST germany. He's so typical! My German teacher in high school was a youth in Nazis germany She told us some things about living then.
And once again, it's "anecdote," not "ancedote." Nice try on the cheap scores. I can understand why someone with your lack of footing would search for any opening the can regardless of how small and petty. :)
He is a man that changes his statements. On the Ernst Zundel caught lying video. When he heard that recording of Himmler speaking about the executions of the Jews. He wanted documents, etc. When asked if he saw those documents, would it change his mind. Zundel said it would. Then, when showed the recording and the document written by Himmler. Zundel changed his yes it would change his mind he said before to, "Fake, Forgery!" That's what I have found about Deniers. They are like See no evil, etc
@jrwel14 Will add for those who say that that recording of Himmler speaking about the extermination of the jews is an allied fake. They don't want to admit that Zundel IS GERMAN and can speak German. So, try some other excuse for that one. If any Deniers wants to hear it. It's on YouBoob.
@jrwel14 Get me a video of Jews dying in a Nazi Gas Chamber with sound so I can hear a choir of screams, otherwise don't promote the Holocaust Religion please.
@BouncePounce So to you no gassings , no holocaust. But, you people never speak about the Ninth Fort Massacres of Nov, 41, The mass shootings by the Einsatzgruppen. To you the Holocaust revolves around the question of the chambers. Guess, if someone is shot or hung. They will live another day. That's why you people are such a joke!
@jrwel14 The jews doesn´t change their Holocaust lie statements if they are identified as such, like uncountable times jews lied about beeing in this concentration camps, experienced this and that.
They just tell everyone they would to it again and if somebody is offended by their behavior, they play the holocaust card.
@Chrijz Funny how you people call everyone a jew! Know about the USS liberty. Grew up doing the Vietnam area. See my favorites on the USS Pueblo and The Brown water navy in Nam?
That Novak huy is just a pussy, not worthy to mention any further, the white haired guy at 9:31 was disappointed, that they couldn´t put Zündel in the light they wanted to.
Made a comment to TradeRoutes. should have looked up his account first. For have noticed that they close and change their accounts on a regular basis. Have seen several dozen who joined as recently as July 2010. Several in late October. Several also had their accounts terrminated for community guideline violations.
Judging by your comments about TradeRoutes, you like to play grand inquisitor toward everyone that disagrees with you. It would behoove you to learn what an ad hominem is and to understand why such statements are a complete tangent when entering a historical debate.
One more thing about this because I didn't really address this properly. Does me owning a gun prove I used it to murder a man found one block from my house with a bullet in his head? The existence of said vans does not prove that Nazis gassed ONE Jew let alone millions of Jews. Again, you need to show some type of forensic evidence or even documentation that shows the Nazis planned to gas millions of Jews. Something!
Am I to believe that the Nazis orchestrated such an undertaking with innuendo, winks, and nudges in order to explain the lack of such evidence let alone the lack of actual bodies? I need anything outside of Allied testimony and Nazi prisoner testimony where there is clear self-interest to promote a certain point of view.
And why are the Soviets' or the Americans' words any better than a person that denies such atrocities? It's their word versus someone elses', you know. Eyewitness testimony is always dubious next to material evidence even in a court of law especially when making such a large charge where the burden of proof is extremely high.
We do know from records that Zyklon B gas was shipped to the Eastern Front where soldiers used it to fumigate their clothes just as workers in camps had their clothes fumigated for sanitary purposes. Holocaust propagators turn something benign like gas vans into something deadly. You see what you want to see even with the lack of evidence.
The irony is that had the Nazis had MORE Zyklon B gas, more Jews may have survived the increasingly unsanitary camps which grew worse and worse as indiscriminate Allied bombings continued.
@Debaser11 Boy, you people will try anything to deny something! I could deny that hitler ever existed using your logic! No bones, no hitler. The recordings , videos and photos of him. ALL FAKE! See what I mean about a closed, simple mind! You people constanly prove that fact. So, thanks! More Zyclon B more jews would have survived. You see what you want to see even with the evidence. And, tradeRoutes? Click on many accounts who believe as you do. Notice how many were closed, terminated, etc.
"Boy, you people will try anything to deny something!"
How much inconsistency are you willing to sidestep to retain your beliefs? All I'm asking for is evidence for your claim. You can't supply evidence for your claim and then you wonder why I am so skeptical. Is it not any wonder?
"I could deny that hitler ever existed using your logic!'
Except we have signatures, birth records, and actual video of Hitler. You know...material evidence that actually matches the claim that he did in fact exist.
If someone wanted to claim that Hitler existed, there would be plenty of material evidence to substantiate that claim unlike your Holocaust beliefs. The burden of proof is easily satisfied.
"No bones, no hitler. The recordings , videos and photos of him. ALL FAKE!"
Uh, bones were never the standard to prove people existed and events took place. Otherwise, we'd have to discard over 99% of history. Evidence is the standard.
And I don't think any videos are fake. I believe the picture of those dilapidated rooms at Dachau is really a room that existed there for the most part. Just like if you took a picture of my kitchen, I would believe the picture is depicting something. But if you labeled my kitchen a living room that would not be accurate. And likewise, labeling that dilapidated room a "gas chamber" is also inaccurate. So is labeling a fumigation room (which could hold no more than a couple of people...
) a gas chamber. By the way, it's not disputed that the Holocaust museum is largely reconstructed at Auschwitz. Just do a cursory google search. The shower "gas chambers" there are fake. And those black and white videos of dead concentration camp victims does not prove a Holocaust happened, either. Your mind has been conditioned to fill in some cause of death you didn't witness with images of Germans systematically killing them indiscriminately.
You've ruled out causes like disease and famine, which were naturally rampant considering the damage the German Reich absorbed. That famous video of that British bulldozer shoving those bodies into a pit (I think it was at either Dachau or Bergen Belsen) had no more than around 50,000 bodies (which is still terrible). But the Holocaust claim is that there are 6 million of them that were killed. There's no evidence that matches that claim. And there's no evidence that the Germans even...
killed all 50,000 of THOSE people. If Japs massively bombed mainland U.S., what do you think would happen to our cities and living conditions, let alone our prisons and concentration camps of Japanese, German, and Italian political prisoners look like (which we actually kept)? Would those camps look like some Hilton?
"See what I mean about a closed, simple mind!"
Sure do! Oh wait, you were actually addressing people on the side of open and honest inquiry and debate. Too bad.
"You people constanly prove that fact. So, thanks!"
Uh, you're welcome? lol
"More Zyclon B more jews would have survived. You see what you want to see even with the evidence."
Well, what's wrong with that speculation. As opposed to the claim that Jews were gassed, we actually have evidence that the gas was used to fumigate. What were those vans doing with German uniforms on the front? Gassing tiny Jews hiding in the soldiers coats?
You know, I have a propane tank in my backyard. Does that mean I'm planning to gas someone? (The British had nerve gas too. Were they?) That and a dead body in my backyard would all be evidence necessary to convict me by your standard even though there are many causes which should be explored as to the cause of the man's death in my backyard. He could have fallen on his neck. He could have had a heart attack. I could have been framed. Who knows? But your standard is not too rigorous. Gassing!
Likewise, does me owning a kitchen knife prove I'm planning to stab my neighbor? Or how about If a serial killer is convicted of murdering ten people in a city, does that mean he's automatically guilty of thirty other murders that took place? By your standard, it would appear so.
"And, tradeRoutes? Click on many accounts who believe as you do. Notice how many were closed, terminated, etc."
"And, to finish my statement about tradeRoutes. Notice how many joined YouBoob late summer and in the fall of this year. I noticed it when I saw many comments with the same words, same mispellings, from many "people" Discovered that many have a dozen or more accounts. When, one gets terminated for community violations. or receives too many complaints. They change it!"
You really should learn what an ad hominem is. I have no interest in them.
"But, you people never speak about the Ninth Fort Massacres of Nov, 41,"
Again, back to the serial killer. If a serial killer is convicted of murdering ten people in a city, does that mean we can blame all the death that in city on him? It does by your logic. Massacres do not equal six million Jews systemically killed to bring about ethnic genocide.
The Russians certainly have also been found to have committed massacres (and arguably more of them). Does that mean the Russians killed 6 million Jews? No. Likewise, Einsatzgruppen killings do not necessitate a Holocaust. Tons of Serbs, Urkranians, Croatians, Romanians, Lithuanians, and Poles, (not just Jews) were killed by both sides in this horrible conflict. Yet, it's only the Germans who get stuck with ridiculous inappropriate charges.
"To you the Holocaust revolves around the question of the chambers."
Not necessarily. But it's one of the stories concocted to explain the lack of material evidence. Now that the gas chamber stories are being discredited we're back to mass shootings and hangings. The only problem is that there are no where near 6 million dead bodies at these camps let alone 6 million Jew bodies. Are you familiar with the registrar that Soviets had in their possession? It's less than a million names.
@Debaser11 You said that there are birth documents ,etc of Hitler. To use your people's logic. Fake! All Fakes! Got that from Zundel and his "Doctored Documents.So, I will be a good Denier? Learned from those like you.The chambers concocted to explain the lack of evidence. Never heard of Paul Blobel and the Sonderaktion 1005 have you? Their objective was to destroy the evidence. The gas chamber stories ARE NOT being discredited. Most of the world knows otherwise.
"You said that there are birth documents ,etc of Hitler. To use your people's logic. Fake!"
My logic is not to label something "fake" simply because it goes against what I believe to be true the way you label someone's to be a "joke" simply because you dislike them. But I do actually EVALUATE evidence used to support a claim to test its VALIDITY. If you can show me why any reasonable person should question Hitler's existence the same way honest historians have tested Holocaust claims,
that you have such a sacrificial lamb to throw your flimsy narrative on. If I charged that Jews stole a million dollars from me but a Jewish inside banker named Goldstein destroyed the evidence (erased my accounts, records) of this alleged theft, would you not be credulous? First of all, how did this man destroy millions or corpses? He must have been a machine even if Hitler gave him half of the German SS, SD and Wehrmacht to work with!
You also don't consider the time involved with disposing of so much evidence not to mention the forensic evidence that would still exist from pyres required to dispose of the numbers of bodies Holocaust people claim he must have disposed of. And do you have any idea how long it takes to burn one body let alone millions? To quote Richard Widmann:
"“Hidden Holocaust” also spends time discussing SS Standar-tenführer Paul Blobel, who was sentenced to hang following the Nuremberg Einsatzgruppen trial. Here it was said, much as the official narrative has claimed for the past sixty years, that Blobel was a “sissy” who could not stand watching mass shootings. As a punishment for his weakness, Blobel was given the incredible task of taking Kommando unit 1005 all over Eastern Europe to exhume the bodies of the Einsatzgruppen’s victims and...
and burn them—thereby hiding the evidence of German crimes. This is a nifty explanation FOR THE FAILURE TO FIND MILLIONS of corpses buried throughout the area in which the various Einsatzgruppen units operated.""
You can't even provide evidence that isn't dubious to common sense, let alone any "proof."
"The gas chamber stories ARE NOT being discredited."
"From 1945 to 1985, the presumed judicial witnesses of the Auschwitz gas chambers have benefited..."
from an extraordinary privilege: they have always been spared the ordeal of cross-examination regarding the material nature of the purported facts they related. In 1985, at the first of two Zündel trials in Toronto, attorney Douglas Christie was fully agreeable, based on my suggestion and offer of assistance, to conduct the cross-examination according to standard procedure for these type of witnesses. The result was the unmasking of witnesses Arnold Friedman and Dr. Rudolf Vrba. ...
This reversal was so serious that today, one can no longer find witnesses willing to take the risk of swearing before the dock of a court of law that they saw a homicidal gassing, whether at Auschwitz or any other concentration camp within the Third Reich."
Seems like a pretty severe form of being discredited to me? That's like me saying you murdered someone but then not being willing to swear to it. And you wonder why thinking people are so skeptical? Is it not any wonder?
"Today, at the close of 1993, the testimonies regarding the Auschwitz gas chambers are discredited, even among the Exterminationists. History as founded upon these testimonies is beginning to give way to history founded either on facts or arguments of a scientific nature."-- Robert Faurisson
@Debaser11 You people love to quote those who believe what you want to hear. Robert Faurisson said it. So, it's fact. Some others say otherwise. All FAKES! Also, you still bring up the no gassings no Holocaust. Never mind how others were killed. Such little people with smaller minds! Die kleinsten Menschen haben die kleinsten Geister!
@Debaser11 Your logic is to follow that Denier answer book. You only evaluate evidence when it suits you. You seem so gung ho about agreeing with what the allies did. But, the Germans? NO WAY. You want to continue collecting Nazis bubblegum cards.If, Zundel said a doc was fake. You would believe it. But, if a dozen said something against the Nazis. NEVER! Historians. You ean Zundel, David Cole? Those nuts?
"Your logic is to follow that Denier answer book. You only evaluate evidence when it suits you."
No, I'm not. As a young boy I was forced to sit through hours of propaganda about the Nazis which I fully believed. They got a head start on influencing me yet I don't find myself convinced by their claims. Again, can you not stick to the argument?
You always debase this discussion to defaming the messenger in some way. Almost all you do is attack with ad hominems. I'm getting tired of being told I'm a "joke" or that I'm following some insidious "Denier" book. Or that I "collect Nazi bubblegum cards." All you do is lower the bar for people who want to have a serious discussion on the subject.
The fact of the matter is that I've raised several serious points of consideration on just these short boilerplates that you haven't even bothered to address. Meanwhile, I address well over half of every sentence you write line by line because I'm trying to prove my sincerity. And yet you have the nerve to claim that I "only evaluate evidence when it suits" me?
"You seem so gung ho about agreeing with what the allies did. But, the Germans? NO WAY."
Please be a bit more specific. Is there anything that I have charged the Allies with (such as the bombing of civilian targets like Dresden, Berlin, and Hamburg) that you disagree with? I have stated twice already that I felt both sides behaved roughly the same during this war. This is a total red herring concerning the question at hand, anyways. There's another logical fallacy for you to look up.
"If, Zundel said a doc was fake. You would believe it."
No. I would ask for his evidence and then see if the evidence matched the claim after it was heavily scrutinized. You know, I don't agree with everything Irving and Zundel say, either. But that's just it. The Holocaust doesn't stand up to scrutiny and you have to vilify the people that scrutinize it. I don't feel the need to vilify people who are trying to honestly debate a historical matter.
"But, if a dozen said something against the Nazis. NEVER!"
Well, it would again depend on their claims and whether or not the evidence they provided stood up to scrutiny and questioning. Do you not understand something as basic as the law of burden of proof?
@Debaser11 Seems you will believe someone like Zundel, Cole. Irving.If, they say anything. But, the photos of the gas vans, etc. Hollywood movie. Steven Spielberg movie!
@Debaser11 So you were told propaganda. As, Goebbels said,"We Made the Reich on Propaganda." That kind? Or, anything against the nasiz is propaganda. But, say something against the allies. ALL FACTS! As, I said earlier, my German teacher was a youth in Nazis Germany. From what she said, the lack of Free speach was very common. Or, as another told me, "The Gestapo had big ears."
"So you were told propaganda. As, Goebbels said,"We Made the Reich on Propaganda." That kind?"
Do you even know what propaganda is? It's not something the Nazis invented nor is it always a bad by default. In fact, I have no problem with a lot of American propaganda. I like Nike commercials and other advertisement propaganda. I like the idea of "the American Dream" and "the greatest country in the world" among other types of propaganda.
You're treating that word like it's bad by default. It can be good or bad depending on the context. Like I said, I think the "American Dream" and other propaganda can be good. You have to look at the facts behind the propaganda. I think there is a lot of truth to American propaganda. There's not a lot of truth in some feminist propaganda and noble savage propaganda. You look at the facts.
I don't think there is a lot of truth to Holocaust propaganda. So Goebbels saying that they use "propaganda" is not incriminating. In fact, it's honest. Every culture (from hippies to black power movements to Han Chinese dynasties) uses it when they glorify their groups over others. The way you go on, propaganda=Holocaust or something. If that's the case, every culture in the world has killed 6 million Jews.
"As, I said earlier, my German teacher was a youth in Nazis Germany. From what she said, the lack of Free speach was very common."
Back to this canard again. Today, big brother has big ears. In places like England, you can get arrested for watching a video of people burning a Koran. (This actually happened in a London pub.) You can go to jail for denying the Holocaust (Irving). You can go to jail for "offending" Muslims (see Geert Wilders).
The type of freedom of speech that exists in places like the U.S. is obscenely rare by historical and contemporary standards. Go speak your mind in Tibet or even in China proper today. Go speak your mind in the Muslim world. See what happens! Say you think Jesus is better than Allah. They'll sentence you to death! Does that mean they're also guilty of a Holocaust? The freedom of speech issue is a red herring, buddy. Most cultures haven't believed in it. Do you not know what a red herring is?
@Debaser11 See, you say if someone said something bad about so and so. Does that mean are they guilty of a Holocaust. Those are 2 different things. Reminds me of someone who said that since not all of the people died in the camps. Then, there weren't any death camps. Guess if a gunman shot 6 people and only 2 survived. Then, there wasn't a homicide!
@Debaser11 Every country in the world has killed 6 million jes? You have lost it! Is it the others have done it. So, what the nazis did wasn't that bad mentality? Thought so. Goebbels propaganda? He was refering to getting the Geranpeople to believe what Hitler wanted them to believe.
"Every country in the world has killed 6 million jes? You have lost it!"
Um no. My argument is that NO country has. :)
"He was refering to getting the Geranpeople to believe what Hitler wanted them to believe."
That's what propaganda is. Do leaders not want their citizens to believe what they say? Don't they use imagery and appeals emotion to help sway beliefs on issues ranging from animal rights to environmentalism to war/peace in the Middle East? If not, that's news to me.
"Guess if a gunman shot 6 people and only 2 survived. Then, there wasn't a homicide!"
No, but you can't say the gunman killed 6 people if he only killed two! Last I checked, I never claimed the Germans didn't kill anyone just like I would never claim the Americans or the Russians never killed anyone. But the claim is "6 million" according to your story and the actual evidence falls WAY short of that. Not to mention there is no plan on record of any effort to commit genocide against the Jews.
@Debaser11 Will add this. Since I meant to say one more thing in my last comment. But, first, the killed 6 million. Have received many comments from those that said that since not all people died in the camps. Then, there wasn't any death camps. So, in regards to the death camps. Deniers use anything to try to deny it. Now, I also meant to say that I mention my German teacher. Have also met the radio operator on the Prinz Eugene. So, have had some contact with those who lived in Nazis germany
"Have received many comments from those that said that since not all people died in the camps. Then, there wasn't any death camps."
Now you're just begging the question. Well, how many do you think died? State your claim and then back it up with evidence. And if you think there was an organized plan of genocide, show me your evidence for that as well. This is not hard.
"So, in regards to the death camps. Deniers use anything to try to deny it."
I'm only "denying" something because you can't provide any proof. That's how ANY claim should be approached from the toothfairy to Martians. You ask for the evidence.
"So, have had some contact with those who lived in Nazis germany"
That's great. But what does that prove? Just because a person is German does not mean they know more about a widely studied historical topic. Do the contemporary Greeks all understand the Peloponnesian War better than say an Australian with a Masters on the subject?
@Debaser11 But, when it comes to what the Nazis did in refering to the jews. You sure are so pro Nazis and anti-American! All of your comments against someone wer directed torwards the allies.
@Debaser11 Will finish. The Gestapo having big ears. Goes against what Zundel saying there was a lot of free opinion . No, he said WEST germany. Him making his answers to fit his side is very confusing!
"The Gestapo having big ears. Goes against what Zundel saying there was a lot of free opinion ."
We've been over this. You don't read half my posts. And this is a red herring.
"Seems you will believe someone like Zundel, Cole. Irving.If, they say anything."
Well tell me why their skepticism about the Holocaust is wrong instead of saying I "collect Nazi bubblegum cards" or whatever the nonsensical insult of the moment is for you.
"But, the photos of the gas vans, etc. Hollywood movie. Steven Spielberg movie!"
No, I believe those gas vans existed. Show me the primary sources that show they were used to gas Jews, though. You're inferring that they were used that way because they existed. Another logical fallacy.
"You sure are so pro Nazis and anti-American! All of your comments against someone wer directed torwards the allies."
My patriotism is not on trial here. Again, please stop with the ad hominem remarks.
No. This drags on forever because you don't know what an ad hominem is among other logical fallacies. The burden of proof is on those making the positive claim. That means it's on YOU. And you did terribly.
@Debaser11 The burden of Proof is on you mentality. Then, Hitler existed is on you. Bet, I can deny it just as long as you and others deny the Holocaust!
"The burden of Proof is on you mentality. Then, Hitler existed is on you. Bet, I can deny it just as long as you and others deny the Holocaust!"
Um, no. Because in logic the people making the positive claim are shoulder with the burden of proof. Just like if I were to call you a pederast I would have to provide proof of it. You wouldn't have to provide proof that you weren't. Your job would to question the validity of my claims by scrutinizing my evidence of you actually being one.
Right. Did you not see where I corrected myself? It doesn't matter. My point still stands. If he killed four, he killed four. Not six. So find me evidence for millions of Jews.
"But, non-jews. And, being a non-jew. Find that very offensive. Guess the killing of the non-jews was okay."
LOL. I offended you as a "non-Jew"? I'm a non-Jewish American of Polish descent. Get over yourself. I know more non-Jews died than Jews.
@Debaser11 The propane tank. You must read that Denier answer book very well. I say one thing and you answer with something else. Said that there are photos of gas vans. And, you come up with answer book #215b. You prove the cloesd little mind concept very well. Little people have them. You have received many comments on your Channel that shows I'm not the only one who thinks you're a joke!
@Debaser11 The japs bombing concept . Perfect example. Let's blame the allies for the conditions of the camps. That's on page 86, answer 725c of the Denier answer book. For the last time. Sie sind Deutsch? Deutsch sprechen? Denn du bist nicht amerikanisch!
@Debaser11 And, to finish my statement about tradeRoutes. Notice how many joined YouBoob late summer and in the fall of this year. I noticed it when I saw many comments with the same words, same mispellings, from many "people" Discovered that many have a dozen or more accounts. When, one gets terminated for community violations. or receives too many complaints. They change it!
while Zundel is right about Katyn. There was also a Khatyn massacre done by the Nazis. the 2 towns are not the same. At Khatyn, the Dirlewanger brigade.Made up of criminals was a part of the massacre. They loved killing civilians and getting away with it!
Notice how when asked about freedom of speech in NAZIS germany. Zundel answers that there is alot of freedom of opinion in WEST Germany? He's so typical. Had a person who lived in Nazis Germany tell me that his uncles had to be careful what they said in their home. For, the Gestapo had big ears.
@Debaser11 Never said that that the Russians were any better or worse. But, unlike you people I do not deny what the nazis did. About the little mind. Have had many debates with Deniers and neo-nazis. Every since I said on 1 video about the P-51 was a great plane. And, got several comments from born after the Berlin wall nazis saying how nazis Germany will rise again and win WW3! The evidence? You people deny ALL videos photos recordings, statements and documents that prove you wrong!
They talk like little girls the 2 host
AHMEDBULAXUBEY 2 weeks ago
Look at what the so-called jews are doing today. No good bastads.
superluminalthought 1 month ago
i love how everytime the reporters get outsmarted they went to a commercial break.
ultradumbass 1 month ago
Fuck i hate that guy with the eyebrows...
villeohannes 1 month ago
Weisel.....the Weasel mentioned in 7:50. That fucker has already been discredited. These two crossfire fucks were cock blocking Zundel from giving a full answer. Freedom of Speech my ass.
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standingontruth1 3 months ago in playlist J039 - Holocaust II -- Zundel, Cole, Irving and Faurisson
What I wonder when I'm watching a video like this is how can those interviewers/TV-hosts live with themselves? Did they ever get any regrets for treating Zundel (and I'm sure tons of others) this way? They don't even let him answer properly because they know they are totally out classed!
megalodonNL 3 months ago in playlist More videos from irregularissue
I couldn't have said it better myself.
dzanier 3 months ago
80 something KIDS murdered in cold blood and it barely made the news. These were kids who were rallying for the palestinian childrens fund. Then they get slaughtered. This zionist media is evil. pure evil.
sssssjjjj1 4 months ago
they are horrible people the media. they are owned by the owners of the cfr, the rothschilds and queens parasitic kabal.
sssssjjjj1 4 months ago
ERNST ZUNDEL...IS SPEAKING THE TRUTH....!!! THE WHOLE WORLD IS AWAKENING TO THE TRUTH THAT JEWS ARE BEHIND 911...JEWISH MOSSAD HAS JUST KILLED 80 WHITE CHRISTIAN KIDS IN THE OSLO,NORWEY !!! REAL TERRORISTS ARE JEWS AND ISRAHELL !!!! THAT IS A FACT !!! THE TRUTH !!!
NEVER TRUST A JEW !!!! YOU CAN ONLY TRUST A DEAD JEW !!! ONLY DEAD JEWS SAY THE TRUTH !!!
WORLDWARIIIVERYSOON 5 months ago 3
I agree with all of what you say, but I don't advocate the murder of Jews. Ernst Zundel is speaking the truth. Sadly, it's a truth that will have a hard time getting diffused because the Zionist controlled mass media would never let it get that far. As long as people continue to watch "American Idol" and care about fucking Kim Kardashian they will never get their heads out of the sand far enough to become inquisitive about these issues.
dzanier 3 months ago
idiot reporters squirm as they know NOTHING about WW2
Seigu007 7 months ago
Looks like he's facing The Grand Inquisitor in form of those two colorless lifeless assholes. Is that in interview? Looks like a bloody trial to me. So much for the freedom of speech.
Piss on you americans.
mouseinacoffeecup 7 months ago
I'm not sure if he's right about the so called holocaust but I am convinced that Ernst Zundel is superior in intelligence compared to his interviewers.
I love his response to the childish question made @9:11
"Mr. Zundel, are you under psychiatric care?"
Mr. Zundel: " ...I have no history of mental illness, and don't propose to develop one here tonight on this program."
What an eloquent way to deal with such a degenerate question!
NoFaithInFolklore 8 months ago
@NoFaithInFolklore, Like I just told tokacola ernst Zundel is a neo nazi who supports neo nazi groups worldwide. He uses programs like this to spread his hateful agenda! In other words moron, Zundel is the degenerate!!!
holocaustdefender33 7 months ago
@holocaustdefender33
Any country that claims to have freedom of speech is being deceptive. How was Germany any different?
Ernst Zundel doesn't spread hate, he only encourages people to look for the truth.
You're so worried about defending holocaust (mass destruction by fire), why don't you defend the innocent people who were burned to death by atomic fire in Nagasaki and Hiroshima during WWII?
NoFaithInFolklore 7 months ago
@NoFaithInFolklore, Ernst Zundel doesn't spread hate!!!! What planet do you live on, venus? The man is a neo nazi. He denies the holocaust and promotes nazism, thats spreading hatred. By the way, I agree that the people of Japan were victims of a horrible act of war, but they were not victims of a genocide. Plus idiot I don't need to defend the victims of the atom bomb since nobody denies that event happened!!
holocaustdefender33 7 months ago
@holocaustdefender33 "Plus idiot I don't need to defend the victims of the atom bomb since nobody denies that event happened!!"
But, nobody calls the atomic fire deaths of the Japanese a holocaust, even though it fits the definition much more accurately than the people who died in Nazi death camps. Do you ever stop and wonder why that is?
NoFaithInFolklore 7 months ago
@NoFaithInFolklore, The victims of the nazi holocaust were cremated in industrial incinerators by fire that whats why its called the holocaust!
holocaustdefender33 7 months ago
The answer as to why nobody calls the atomic fire deaths of the Japanese a holocaust while calling the death of Jews in Europe one is because Jews have even been able to unconsciously make Gentiles believe that the life of a Jew is more valuable than that of a Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or any other ethnic or religious group. Jews are the biggest racists in the world. The hardliner Jews hate anyone who isn't Jewish so fiercely it probably turns their stomach just to be in the same room as them.
dzanier 3 months ago
You think that a man who actually believes there was free speech in germany during WW2 has superior intelligence!! If Zundel had superior intelligence he wouldn't be a neo nazi or a holocaust denier because he would be educated!!!
holocaustdefender33 7 months ago
@ 6:30
Nice, lets resort to infantile name calling to prove our point, instead of facts.
NoFaithInFolklore 8 months ago
@ 5:35 'Mr. Zundel, don't you know that when you say there was free speech in Germany, when there's records of journalists, of authors going into concentration camps don't you know that you discredit your whole argument?'
Then by that argument you should know that there's no freedom of speech in Canada either since they locked up Mr. Zundel for stating his opinion!
NoFaithInFolklore 8 months ago
Fucking idiot news interviewers wont even let him finish... they just keep trying to bringing forth emotional backed fake bullshit. Who's that slimely jew that thought he was being clever by asking him if he had a psyche test? What an absolute piece of shit that guy was.
0% Journalism there, only suppression of the truth. Ernst Zundel is my hero!
nomorenigsplease 8 months ago
World jewry is in a fight or flight mode.
joaquinhernandez1000 8 months ago 2
too bad he evemtually had to spend 7 years in prison for speaking his mind
Princetonbeats 8 months ago
zundel is da f*in man
Princetonbeats 8 months ago
love the loony remarks .lol typical media goons. well done ernst ...
bones228 8 months ago
I like the way Zundel beats back Novaks thing on mental illness
oioioi3000 9 months ago 2
Please someone take out the Washington and Novak idiot they are SCUM
oioioi3000 9 months ago
He did not get a fair trial because the judge was a fucking jew dueshbag like th two cocksuckers interviewing him
jewpalegay 9 months ago
@jewpalegay How many yrs did he get?
oioioi3000 9 months ago
@oioioi3000 7 years and 3 weeks for speaking truth
jewpalegay 8 months ago
The two guys doing the interview are gay jews
jewpalegay 9 months ago
novak was a bike too
ElectricEquines 10 months ago
these jewish assholes say that they found "blue prints" of gas chambers....and then laugh when zundel stated they were doctored....now, almost 30 yrs later, its come out in the light that john Demjanjuk's nazi documents were fabricated....
issamharrisjewish 10 months ago 5
Two standard snotty-nosed CNN interviewers!
dawes777 11 months ago
2 uneducated, arrogant moronic kikes. period.
vonRass 11 months ago
4:16 The report is loving it so much he starts to laugh after he realizes Zundel has finally opened up the door for a "gotcha" journalism approach.
southpark3003 1 year ago
I don't know who is right or who is wrong.But I can see that these "journalist" have their mind made up.They are trying to get the other one to screw up and they seem desperate.What I don't like about this is that o-k they had camps.But they seem to forget that it was not only Jews who were in them.There where soldiers,prisoners who where sent there.Seems to me no one existed except the Jews.They like being martyrs well there going to get it. the middle east is not going to become democratic.
repmanlegion 1 year ago
2 Jewish front men could not shake the expert. Those were not journalists, they were two jackels.
holocaustexpert 1 year ago 2
HA HA HA HA HA HA
It's BRILLIANT the way Mr. Zundel just smiles and doesn't let them bully him and doesn't get angry after they just throw empty insults at him. His behaviour and his the behaviour of the questioners are proof enough, and all the audience will attest to this, that Mr. Zundel is right and the two men are puppets.
MrPonko 1 year ago 3
@MrPonko - he did great. Nowak is a disgrace.
holocaustexpert 1 year ago
wow.... ernst answered every question honestly and quickly.
southpark3003 1 year ago
This is scary.... why are the reporters so "robotic" ... they are just proving the very fact that they are slaves to the corporate system
southpark3003 1 year ago 24
@southpark3003
Exactly. Fortunately, people are starting to see this!
megalodonNL 1 month ago
these assholes never let him finish a sentence..is that freedom of speech ??
TokaCola 1 year ago 31
@TokaCola, Ernst zundel is a neo-nazi who publishes a pamphlet full of nazi propaganda and supports neo nazis groups around the world. He uses his so-called Freedom of speech to spread his hateful agenda!
holocaustdefender33 7 months ago
Look at Robert Novak's gestures, he clearly shows his jewness
syalcin123 1 year ago
What a prime example for our "unbiased" and "fair" media. It truly boggles the find that they still expect people to believe anything they say.
MegaFlatEarth 1 year ago
this a absurd! the jews media in america is completely biased. why did ernst attend this roast?
88strongchainsketch 1 year ago
Haha, that swarthy guy in this video that questions Zundel's mental-health is a jewboy ("Robert Novak's parents had a Jewish background"), I just looked it up because he was so fierce, doing personal attack than argue, and he got that ugly look, so I really suspected that he was one of those crooked... Really "objective" journalists, LOL!
Chrijz 1 year ago
great music!
passionparade 1 year ago
these guys are out of the minds and should not have went on without looking into things when zundel did his homework
donaldmccaughey83 1 year ago 4
While no one in America really gives a shit about Jews in general, you would think a paid-for and threatened media loves them. The only people that speak well of Jews are themselves, those paid-off and those threatened. It's taken just a little over a generation for American media to loose their balls.
JohnnyRock2000 1 year ago
You have to talk about what you want, because that is more likely ot happen.
If you concentrate on 9/11, Jesuits, jews, 7/7 and so on, than they only gain power.
Reconnaissance is necessary, but only beeing gathered to take action. Otherwise you are to be laughted at, like when going to a protest.
It´s about consequences, nothing less, but the only thing, that changes something.
whatthehell81 1 year ago
@whatthehell81 What are you. Some born after the Berlin Wall nazis? You people are a stupid joke. Calling people a paid jew, zionist, whatever. For your information. Have Scandinavian blood whose family is Lutheran. You guys call everyone a jewboy. Am not jewish. You probably have more jewish blood than I do. But, am not a fool. Which you people show everytime you speak!
jrwel14 1 year ago
Just take a look at jrwel14 ´s channel. Than you will realize that he is an desinformant agent.
Thats the funny or dangerous thing: We do this for free, in an quest for truth. These people got payed for lying, but are much less.
On the other hand. When you take another step in the rabbit hole, than you see that they even want to motivate people in agitating them to fight against jrwel14 and others, so the focus in on their actions. Therefore getting energy in or for whatever they do.
whatthehell81 1 year ago
Haven't ever seen Zundel loose his cool. In a hundred years from now, when the world tires from Jewish and Zionist domination, people will look to him and wonder why he was not believed.
JohnnyRock2000 1 year ago
@JohnnyRock2000 People now, wonder why anyone believes him!
jrwel14 1 year ago
Good old Ernst. A true German eccentric.
ofcoursehesthefarmer 1 year ago
@ofcoursehesthefarmer Ernst, a true nazis. He admits to it!
jrwel14 1 year ago
"There was censorship/propaganda in Allied countries too"
"HERP DERP!!"
Who is discrediting their argument now Mr. CNN?"
Surbrus 1 year ago
@Surbrus there was censorship in allied countries too doesn't invalidate the fact that germany was also censored, it just means that censorship was more popular in the world back then. This trick used by Zundel is not answering the question, it's avoiding it. I agree that there was censorship and still is censorship in allied countries, especially in canada where it is illegal to say anything that isn't liberal (hate speech)... but that doesn't change the fact that germany was censored.
SeeProfileForDetails 1 year ago
Its incediblly telling when you knwo that the new tork times on the 20th of may '45 said "6 million jews found in hidden fatories". Not a word a bout six million dead. Then 5th and 6th of august of that year america drops two nuclear bombs on nagusaki and hiroshima. Then the headlines read "6million jews perish at the hand of the nazi regime". No american newpaper headlines about the recent american atrocity, if thats not deflecting blame and criticim i dont know what is.
lalalady4216 1 year ago
Yea I didn't see any cross fire here. I saw the typical stuff. Instead of debating with facts, don't let him speak and hurl insults. The typical one call him a lunatic. I've heard that over and over again by the Jewish controlled media.
PMnews1 1 year ago
They should change the name of this show from "Cross Fire" to "One Way Fire"
Let the guy speak!
mattersofsize 1 year ago
@mattersofsize When he does speak. He shows himself to be a fool. Notice how when they ask about freedom of speach in nazis germany. Zundel changes it to West germany?
jrwel14 1 year ago
Do we any more proof the media is under zionist control? They will do anything to preventing people from knowing the truth. Just look how they tried to attack him and questioned whether he is smart enough to write a book. There were gas chambers this is a proven lie.
PURELOVECREW 1 year ago
This is by no means a decent interview! they aska question and then they shout over him! how can anyone make a point when they only ask to jump down their throat. Zundel may be a bit biast towards Hitler which i dont agree with however the man knows his stuff inside out and is extensively well read on both sides of the issue. These two guys are biast too. Except they are not extensively well informed on bith sides of the arguemnt hence they shouting and cheap shtots. discgracfrul.
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@jrwel14
"Or, as that 1 guy on the CODOH website said. Even if it did happen. Let's get people to question it anyway!"
Sounds good to me. What's wrong with questioning anything? If it's true, the facts will stand up to scrutiny and the story validated. What are Holocaust people like yourself so afraid of?
Debaser11 1 year ago
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@jrwel14
"Or, as that 1 guy on the CODOH website said. Even if it did happen. Let's get people to question it anyway!"
Sounds good to me. What's wrong with questioning anything? If it's true, the facts will stand up to scrutiny and the story will be validated. What are Holocaust people like yourself so afraid of?
Debaser11 1 year ago
Ooops. You can't say he killed six if he only killed four. Hehe...
Debaser11 1 year ago
@Debaser11 Never said the gunman killed 6. said 4. But, you people deny ALL those who were killed . Not just jews. But, non-jews. And, being a non-jew. Find that very offensive. Guess the killing of the non-jews was okay. My final comment. is that I have learned alot more about what happened during the war. So, to you and others like you. Thanks for giving me and others I have talked to more reasons to be glad Hitler was stopped! vielen Dank!
jrwel14 1 year ago
There was no freedom of Speech in Nazis Germany. Zundel, speaking,"THere was lots of freedom of opinion in WEST germany. He's so typical! My German teacher in high school was a youth in Nazis germany She told us some things about living then.
jrwel14 1 year ago
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Debaser11 1 year ago
And once again, it's "anecdote," not "ancedote." Nice try on the cheap scores. I can understand why someone with your lack of footing would search for any opening the can regardless of how small and petty. :)
Debaser11 1 year ago
He is a man that changes his statements. On the Ernst Zundel caught lying video. When he heard that recording of Himmler speaking about the executions of the Jews. He wanted documents, etc. When asked if he saw those documents, would it change his mind. Zundel said it would. Then, when showed the recording and the document written by Himmler. Zundel changed his yes it would change his mind he said before to, "Fake, Forgery!" That's what I have found about Deniers. They are like See no evil, etc
jrwel14 1 year ago 7
@jrwel14 Deniers are like, and look like, the 3 monkeys!
jrwel14 1 year ago
@jrwel14 Will add for those who say that that recording of Himmler speaking about the extermination of the jews is an allied fake. They don't want to admit that Zundel IS GERMAN and can speak German. So, try some other excuse for that one. If any Deniers wants to hear it. It's on YouBoob.
jrwel14 1 year ago
@jrwel14 Get me a video of Jews dying in a Nazi Gas Chamber with sound so I can hear a choir of screams, otherwise don't promote the Holocaust Religion please.
BouncePounce 1 year ago
@BouncePounce So to you no gassings , no holocaust. But, you people never speak about the Ninth Fort Massacres of Nov, 41, The mass shootings by the Einsatzgruppen. To you the Holocaust revolves around the question of the chambers. Guess, if someone is shot or hung. They will live another day. That's why you people are such a joke!
jrwel14 1 year ago
@jrwel14 The jews doesn´t change their Holocaust lie statements if they are identified as such, like uncountable times jews lied about beeing in this concentration camps, experienced this and that.
They just tell everyone they would to it again and if somebody is offended by their behavior, they play the holocaust card.
Now thats some logic!
whatthehell81 1 year ago
@whatthehell81 The Deniers don't care if a Denier like Zundel lies. They use it anyway. Beggars can't be choosers!
jrwel14 1 year ago
@jrwel14 Jewboy, you who likes warships and such may put this in your favorites: "Israeli attack on USS Liberty (US Navy ship)", /watch?v=fRZSzdQuOqM
Chrijz 1 year ago
@Chrijz Funny how you people call everyone a jew! Know about the USS liberty. Grew up doing the Vietnam area. See my favorites on the USS Pueblo and The Brown water navy in Nam?
jrwel14 1 year ago
@Chrijz Will add this. You speak so much about the Liberty. You are in your late 30s!
jrwel14 1 year ago
That Novak huy is just a pussy, not worthy to mention any further, the white haired guy at 9:31 was disappointed, that they couldn´t put Zündel in the light they wanted to.
whatthehell81 1 year ago
@whatthehell81 You guys should change your name to WhatAJoke!
jrwel14 1 year ago
Made a comment to TradeRoutes. should have looked up his account first. For have noticed that they close and change their accounts on a regular basis. Have seen several dozen who joined as recently as July 2010. Several in late October. Several also had their accounts terrminated for community guideline violations.
jrwel14 1 year ago 9
@jrwel14
Judging by your comments about TradeRoutes, you like to play grand inquisitor toward everyone that disagrees with you. It would behoove you to learn what an ad hominem is and to understand why such statements are a complete tangent when entering a historical debate.
Debaser11 1 year ago
" Fake! The Einsaztgruppen gas vans fake!"
One more thing about this because I didn't really address this properly. Does me owning a gun prove I used it to murder a man found one block from my house with a bullet in his head? The existence of said vans does not prove that Nazis gassed ONE Jew let alone millions of Jews. Again, you need to show some type of forensic evidence or even documentation that shows the Nazis planned to gas millions of Jews. Something!
Debaser11 1 year ago
Am I to believe that the Nazis orchestrated such an undertaking with innuendo, winks, and nudges in order to explain the lack of such evidence let alone the lack of actual bodies? I need anything outside of Allied testimony and Nazi prisoner testimony where there is clear self-interest to promote a certain point of view.
Debaser11 1 year ago
And why are the Soviets' or the Americans' words any better than a person that denies such atrocities? It's their word versus someone elses', you know. Eyewitness testimony is always dubious next to material evidence even in a court of law especially when making such a large charge where the burden of proof is extremely high.
Debaser11 1 year ago
We do know from records that Zyklon B gas was shipped to the Eastern Front where soldiers used it to fumigate their clothes just as workers in camps had their clothes fumigated for sanitary purposes. Holocaust propagators turn something benign like gas vans into something deadly. You see what you want to see even with the lack of evidence.
Debaser11 1 year ago
The irony is that had the Nazis had MORE Zyklon B gas, more Jews may have survived the increasingly unsanitary camps which grew worse and worse as indiscriminate Allied bombings continued.
Debaser11 1 year ago
@Debaser11 Boy, you people will try anything to deny something! I could deny that hitler ever existed using your logic! No bones, no hitler. The recordings , videos and photos of him. ALL FAKE! See what I mean about a closed, simple mind! You people constanly prove that fact. So, thanks! More Zyclon B more jews would have survived. You see what you want to see even with the evidence. And, tradeRoutes? Click on many accounts who believe as you do. Notice how many were closed, terminated, etc.
jrwel14 1 year ago
"Boy, you people will try anything to deny something!"
How much inconsistency are you willing to sidestep to retain your beliefs? All I'm asking for is evidence for your claim. You can't supply evidence for your claim and then you wonder why I am so skeptical. Is it not any wonder?
"I could deny that hitler ever existed using your logic!'
Except we have signatures, birth records, and actual video of Hitler. You know...material evidence that actually matches the claim that he did in fact exist.
Debaser11 1 year ago
If someone wanted to claim that Hitler existed, there would be plenty of material evidence to substantiate that claim unlike your Holocaust beliefs. The burden of proof is easily satisfied.
"No bones, no hitler. The recordings , videos and photos of him. ALL FAKE!"
Uh, bones were never the standard to prove people existed and events took place. Otherwise, we'd have to discard over 99% of history. Evidence is the standard.
Debaser11 1 year ago
And I don't think any videos are fake. I believe the picture of those dilapidated rooms at Dachau is really a room that existed there for the most part. Just like if you took a picture of my kitchen, I would believe the picture is depicting something. But if you labeled my kitchen a living room that would not be accurate. And likewise, labeling that dilapidated room a "gas chamber" is also inaccurate. So is labeling a fumigation room (which could hold no more than a couple of people...
Debaser11 1 year ago
) a gas chamber. By the way, it's not disputed that the Holocaust museum is largely reconstructed at Auschwitz. Just do a cursory google search. The shower "gas chambers" there are fake. And those black and white videos of dead concentration camp victims does not prove a Holocaust happened, either. Your mind has been conditioned to fill in some cause of death you didn't witness with images of Germans systematically killing them indiscriminately.
Debaser11 1 year ago
You've ruled out causes like disease and famine, which were naturally rampant considering the damage the German Reich absorbed. That famous video of that British bulldozer shoving those bodies into a pit (I think it was at either Dachau or Bergen Belsen) had no more than around 50,000 bodies (which is still terrible). But the Holocaust claim is that there are 6 million of them that were killed. There's no evidence that matches that claim. And there's no evidence that the Germans even...
Debaser11 1 year ago
killed all 50,000 of THOSE people. If Japs massively bombed mainland U.S., what do you think would happen to our cities and living conditions, let alone our prisons and concentration camps of Japanese, German, and Italian political prisoners look like (which we actually kept)? Would those camps look like some Hilton?
"See what I mean about a closed, simple mind!"
Sure do! Oh wait, you were actually addressing people on the side of open and honest inquiry and debate. Too bad.
Debaser11 1 year ago
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"You people constanly prove that fact. So, thanks!"
Uh, you're welcome? lol
"More Zyclon B more jews would have survived. You see what you want to see even with the evidence."
Well, what's wrong with that speculation. As opposed to the claim that Jews were gassed, we actually have evidence that the gas was used to fumigate. What were those vans doing with German uniforms on the front? Gassing tiny Jews hiding in the soldiers coats?
Debaser11 1 year ago
You know, I have a propane tank in my backyard. Does that mean I'm planning to gas someone? (The British had nerve gas too. Were they?) That and a dead body in my backyard would all be evidence necessary to convict me by your standard even though there are many causes which should be explored as to the cause of the man's death in my backyard. He could have fallen on his neck. He could have had a heart attack. I could have been framed. Who knows? But your standard is not too rigorous. Gassing!
Debaser11 1 year ago
Likewise, does me owning a kitchen knife prove I'm planning to stab my neighbor? Or how about If a serial killer is convicted of murdering ten people in a city, does that mean he's automatically guilty of thirty other murders that took place? By your standard, it would appear so.
"And, tradeRoutes? Click on many accounts who believe as you do. Notice how many were closed, terminated, etc."
Still haven't learned what an ad hominem is yet?
Debaser11 1 year ago
"And, to finish my statement about tradeRoutes. Notice how many joined YouBoob late summer and in the fall of this year. I noticed it when I saw many comments with the same words, same mispellings, from many "people" Discovered that many have a dozen or more accounts. When, one gets terminated for community violations. or receives too many complaints. They change it!"
You really should learn what an ad hominem is. I have no interest in them.
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"But, you people never speak about the Ninth Fort Massacres of Nov, 41,"
Again, back to the serial killer. If a serial killer is convicted of murdering ten people in a city, does that mean we can blame all the death that in city on him? It does by your logic. Massacres do not equal six million Jews systemically killed to bring about ethnic genocide.
"The mass shootings by the Einsatzgruppen."
How about the mass shootings done by the KGB?
Debaser11 1 year ago
The Russians certainly have also been found to have committed massacres (and arguably more of them). Does that mean the Russians killed 6 million Jews? No. Likewise, Einsatzgruppen killings do not necessitate a Holocaust. Tons of Serbs, Urkranians, Croatians, Romanians, Lithuanians, and Poles, (not just Jews) were killed by both sides in this horrible conflict. Yet, it's only the Germans who get stuck with ridiculous inappropriate charges.
Debaser11 1 year ago
"To you the Holocaust revolves around the question of the chambers."
Not necessarily. But it's one of the stories concocted to explain the lack of material evidence. Now that the gas chamber stories are being discredited we're back to mass shootings and hangings. The only problem is that there are no where near 6 million dead bodies at these camps let alone 6 million Jew bodies. Are you familiar with the registrar that Soviets had in their possession? It's less than a million names.
Debaser11 1 year ago
"Guess, if someone is shot or hung. They will live another day. That's why you people are such a joke!"
What? And how fitting that you close your illogical response with another ad hominem. Par for the course.
Debaser11 1 year ago
@Debaser11 You said that there are birth documents ,etc of Hitler. To use your people's logic. Fake! All Fakes! Got that from Zundel and his "Doctored Documents.So, I will be a good Denier? Learned from those like you.The chambers concocted to explain the lack of evidence. Never heard of Paul Blobel and the Sonderaktion 1005 have you? Their objective was to destroy the evidence. The gas chamber stories ARE NOT being discredited. Most of the world knows otherwise.
jrwel14 1 year ago
@jrwel14
"You said that there are birth documents ,etc of Hitler. To use your people's logic. Fake!"
My logic is not to label something "fake" simply because it goes against what I believe to be true the way you label someone's to be a "joke" simply because you dislike them. But I do actually EVALUATE evidence used to support a claim to test its VALIDITY. If you can show me why any reasonable person should question Hitler's existence the same way honest historians have tested Holocaust claims,
Debaser11 1 year ago
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I'd love to hear them. I didn't realize there were legitimate discrepancies concerning Hitler's existence.
"Got that from Zundel and his "Doctored Documents.So, I will be a good Denier? Learned from those like you."
So are you now accusing me of lying simply because I disagree with you? It sure seems like it.
"Never heard of Paul Blobel and the Sonderaktion 1005 have you? Their objective was to destroy the evidence."
Yes, I have. Well how convenient for propagators like yourself...
Debaser11 1 year ago
that you have such a sacrificial lamb to throw your flimsy narrative on. If I charged that Jews stole a million dollars from me but a Jewish inside banker named Goldstein destroyed the evidence (erased my accounts, records) of this alleged theft, would you not be credulous? First of all, how did this man destroy millions or corpses? He must have been a machine even if Hitler gave him half of the German SS, SD and Wehrmacht to work with!
Debaser11 1 year ago
You also don't consider the time involved with disposing of so much evidence not to mention the forensic evidence that would still exist from pyres required to dispose of the numbers of bodies Holocaust people claim he must have disposed of. And do you have any idea how long it takes to burn one body let alone millions? To quote Richard Widmann:
Debaser11 1 year ago
"“Hidden Holocaust” also spends time discussing SS Standar-tenführer Paul Blobel, who was sentenced to hang following the Nuremberg Einsatzgruppen trial. Here it was said, much as the official narrative has claimed for the past sixty years, that Blobel was a “sissy” who could not stand watching mass shootings. As a punishment for his weakness, Blobel was given the incredible task of taking Kommando unit 1005 all over Eastern Europe to exhume the bodies of the Einsatzgruppen’s victims and...
Debaser11 1 year ago
and burn them—thereby hiding the evidence of German crimes. This is a nifty explanation FOR THE FAILURE TO FIND MILLIONS of corpses buried throughout the area in which the various Einsatzgruppen units operated.""
You can't even provide evidence that isn't dubious to common sense, let alone any "proof."
"The gas chamber stories ARE NOT being discredited."
"From 1945 to 1985, the presumed judicial witnesses of the Auschwitz gas chambers have benefited..."
Debaser11 1 year ago
from an extraordinary privilege: they have always been spared the ordeal of cross-examination regarding the material nature of the purported facts they related. In 1985, at the first of two Zündel trials in Toronto, attorney Douglas Christie was fully agreeable, based on my suggestion and offer of assistance, to conduct the cross-examination according to standard procedure for these type of witnesses. The result was the unmasking of witnesses Arnold Friedman and Dr. Rudolf Vrba. ...
Debaser11 1 year ago
This reversal was so serious that today, one can no longer find witnesses willing to take the risk of swearing before the dock of a court of law that they saw a homicidal gassing, whether at Auschwitz or any other concentration camp within the Third Reich."
Seems like a pretty severe form of being discredited to me? That's like me saying you murdered someone but then not being willing to swear to it. And you wonder why thinking people are so skeptical? Is it not any wonder?
Debaser11 1 year ago
"Today, at the close of 1993, the testimonies regarding the Auschwitz gas chambers are discredited, even among the Exterminationists. History as founded upon these testimonies is beginning to give way to history founded either on facts or arguments of a scientific nature."-- Robert Faurisson
Debaser11 1 year ago
@Debaser11 You people love to quote those who believe what you want to hear. Robert Faurisson said it. So, it's fact. Some others say otherwise. All FAKES! Also, you still bring up the no gassings no Holocaust. Never mind how others were killed. Such little people with smaller minds! Die kleinsten Menschen haben die kleinsten Geister!
jrwel14 1 year ago
@Debaser11 Your logic is to follow that Denier answer book. You only evaluate evidence when it suits you. You seem so gung ho about agreeing with what the allies did. But, the Germans? NO WAY. You want to continue collecting Nazis bubblegum cards.If, Zundel said a doc was fake. You would believe it. But, if a dozen said something against the Nazis. NEVER! Historians. You ean Zundel, David Cole? Those nuts?
jrwel14 1 year ago
@jrwel14
"Your logic is to follow that Denier answer book. You only evaluate evidence when it suits you."
No, I'm not. As a young boy I was forced to sit through hours of propaganda about the Nazis which I fully believed. They got a head start on influencing me yet I don't find myself convinced by their claims. Again, can you not stick to the argument?
Debaser11 1 year ago
You always debase this discussion to defaming the messenger in some way. Almost all you do is attack with ad hominems. I'm getting tired of being told I'm a "joke" or that I'm following some insidious "Denier" book. Or that I "collect Nazi bubblegum cards." All you do is lower the bar for people who want to have a serious discussion on the subject.
Debaser11 1 year ago
The fact of the matter is that I've raised several serious points of consideration on just these short boilerplates that you haven't even bothered to address. Meanwhile, I address well over half of every sentence you write line by line because I'm trying to prove my sincerity. And yet you have the nerve to claim that I "only evaluate evidence when it suits" me?
Debaser11 1 year ago
"You seem so gung ho about agreeing with what the allies did. But, the Germans? NO WAY."
Please be a bit more specific. Is there anything that I have charged the Allies with (such as the bombing of civilian targets like Dresden, Berlin, and Hamburg) that you disagree with? I have stated twice already that I felt both sides behaved roughly the same during this war. This is a total red herring concerning the question at hand, anyways. There's another logical fallacy for you to look up.
Debaser11 1 year ago
"If, Zundel said a doc was fake. You would believe it."
No. I would ask for his evidence and then see if the evidence matched the claim after it was heavily scrutinized. You know, I don't agree with everything Irving and Zundel say, either. But that's just it. The Holocaust doesn't stand up to scrutiny and you have to vilify the people that scrutinize it. I don't feel the need to vilify people who are trying to honestly debate a historical matter.
Debaser11 1 year ago
"But, if a dozen said something against the Nazis. NEVER!"
Well, it would again depend on their claims and whether or not the evidence they provided stood up to scrutiny and questioning. Do you not understand something as basic as the law of burden of proof?
"You ean Zundel, David Cole? Those nuts?"
Ad hominem.
Debaser11 1 year ago
@Debaser11 Seems you will believe someone like Zundel, Cole. Irving.If, they say anything. But, the photos of the gas vans, etc. Hollywood movie. Steven Spielberg movie!
jrwel14 1 year ago
@Debaser11 So you were told propaganda. As, Goebbels said,"We Made the Reich on Propaganda." That kind? Or, anything against the nasiz is propaganda. But, say something against the allies. ALL FACTS! As, I said earlier, my German teacher was a youth in Nazis Germany. From what she said, the lack of Free speach was very common. Or, as another told me, "The Gestapo had big ears."
jrwel14 1 year ago
@jrwel14
"So you were told propaganda. As, Goebbels said,"We Made the Reich on Propaganda." That kind?"
Do you even know what propaganda is? It's not something the Nazis invented nor is it always a bad by default. In fact, I have no problem with a lot of American propaganda. I like Nike commercials and other advertisement propaganda. I like the idea of "the American Dream" and "the greatest country in the world" among other types of propaganda.
Debaser11 1 year ago
You're treating that word like it's bad by default. It can be good or bad depending on the context. Like I said, I think the "American Dream" and other propaganda can be good. You have to look at the facts behind the propaganda. I think there is a lot of truth to American propaganda. There's not a lot of truth in some feminist propaganda and noble savage propaganda. You look at the facts.
Debaser11 1 year ago
I don't think there is a lot of truth to Holocaust propaganda. So Goebbels saying that they use "propaganda" is not incriminating. In fact, it's honest. Every culture (from hippies to black power movements to Han Chinese dynasties) uses it when they glorify their groups over others. The way you go on, propaganda=Holocaust or something. If that's the case, every culture in the world has killed 6 million Jews.
Debaser11 1 year ago
"As, I said earlier, my German teacher was a youth in Nazis Germany. From what she said, the lack of Free speach was very common."
Back to this canard again. Today, big brother has big ears. In places like England, you can get arrested for watching a video of people burning a Koran. (This actually happened in a London pub.) You can go to jail for denying the Holocaust (Irving). You can go to jail for "offending" Muslims (see Geert Wilders).
Debaser11 1 year ago
The type of freedom of speech that exists in places like the U.S. is obscenely rare by historical and contemporary standards. Go speak your mind in Tibet or even in China proper today. Go speak your mind in the Muslim world. See what happens! Say you think Jesus is better than Allah. They'll sentence you to death! Does that mean they're also guilty of a Holocaust? The freedom of speech issue is a red herring, buddy. Most cultures haven't believed in it. Do you not know what a red herring is?
Debaser11 1 year ago
@Debaser11 See, you say if someone said something bad about so and so. Does that mean are they guilty of a Holocaust. Those are 2 different things. Reminds me of someone who said that since not all of the people died in the camps. Then, there weren't any death camps. Guess if a gunman shot 6 people and only 2 survived. Then, there wasn't a homicide!
jrwel14 1 year ago
@Debaser11 Every country in the world has killed 6 million jes? You have lost it! Is it the others have done it. So, what the nazis did wasn't that bad mentality? Thought so. Goebbels propaganda? He was refering to getting the Geranpeople to believe what Hitler wanted them to believe.
jrwel14 1 year ago
@jrwel14
"Every country in the world has killed 6 million jes? You have lost it!"
Um no. My argument is that NO country has. :)
"He was refering to getting the Geranpeople to believe what Hitler wanted them to believe."
That's what propaganda is. Do leaders not want their citizens to believe what they say? Don't they use imagery and appeals emotion to help sway beliefs on issues ranging from animal rights to environmentalism to war/peace in the Middle East? If not, that's news to me.
Debaser11 1 year ago
"Guess if a gunman shot 6 people and only 2 survived. Then, there wasn't a homicide!"
No, but you can't say the gunman killed 6 people if he only killed two! Last I checked, I never claimed the Germans didn't kill anyone just like I would never claim the Americans or the Russians never killed anyone. But the claim is "6 million" according to your story and the actual evidence falls WAY short of that. Not to mention there is no plan on record of any effort to commit genocide against the Jews.
Debaser11 1 year ago
@Debaser11 Will add this. Since I meant to say one more thing in my last comment. But, first, the killed 6 million. Have received many comments from those that said that since not all people died in the camps. Then, there wasn't any death camps. So, in regards to the death camps. Deniers use anything to try to deny it. Now, I also meant to say that I mention my German teacher. Have also met the radio operator on the Prinz Eugene. So, have had some contact with those who lived in Nazis germany
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@jrwel14
"Have received many comments from those that said that since not all people died in the camps. Then, there wasn't any death camps."
Now you're just begging the question. Well, how many do you think died? State your claim and then back it up with evidence. And if you think there was an organized plan of genocide, show me your evidence for that as well. This is not hard.
Debaser11 1 year ago
"So, in regards to the death camps. Deniers use anything to try to deny it."
I'm only "denying" something because you can't provide any proof. That's how ANY claim should be approached from the toothfairy to Martians. You ask for the evidence.
Debaser11 1 year ago
"So, have had some contact with those who lived in Nazis germany"
That's great. But what does that prove? Just because a person is German does not mean they know more about a widely studied historical topic. Do the contemporary Greeks all understand the Peloponnesian War better than say an Australian with a Masters on the subject?
Debaser11 1 year ago
@Debaser11 But, when it comes to what the Nazis did in refering to the jews. You sure are so pro Nazis and anti-American! All of your comments against someone wer directed torwards the allies.
jrwel14 1 year ago
@Debaser11 Will finish. The Gestapo having big ears. Goes against what Zundel saying there was a lot of free opinion . No, he said WEST germany. Him making his answers to fit his side is very confusing!
jrwel14 1 year ago
@jrwel14
"The Gestapo having big ears. Goes against what Zundel saying there was a lot of free opinion ."
We've been over this. You don't read half my posts. And this is a red herring.
"Seems you will believe someone like Zundel, Cole. Irving.If, they say anything."
Well tell me why their skepticism about the Holocaust is wrong instead of saying I "collect Nazi bubblegum cards" or whatever the nonsensical insult of the moment is for you.
Debaser11 1 year ago
"But, the photos of the gas vans, etc. Hollywood movie. Steven Spielberg movie!"
No, I believe those gas vans existed. Show me the primary sources that show they were used to gas Jews, though. You're inferring that they were used that way because they existed. Another logical fallacy.
"You sure are so pro Nazis and anti-American! All of your comments against someone wer directed torwards the allies."
My patriotism is not on trial here. Again, please stop with the ad hominem remarks.
Debaser11 1 year ago
@Debaser11 We could drag this forever. So will say this to finish it:
Sind Sie ein Deutsch in der amerikanischen gekleidet?
jrwel14 1 year ago
@jrwel14
No. This drags on forever because you don't know what an ad hominem is among other logical fallacies. The burden of proof is on those making the positive claim. That means it's on YOU. And you did terribly.
Debaser11 1 year ago
@Debaser11 The burden of Proof is on you mentality. Then, Hitler existed is on you. Bet, I can deny it just as long as you and others deny the Holocaust!
jrwel14 1 year ago
@jrwel14
"The burden of Proof is on you mentality. Then, Hitler existed is on you. Bet, I can deny it just as long as you and others deny the Holocaust!"
Um, no. Because in logic the people making the positive claim are shoulder with the burden of proof. Just like if I were to call you a pederast I would have to provide proof of it. You wouldn't have to provide proof that you weren't. Your job would to question the validity of my claims by scrutinizing my evidence of you actually being one.
Debaser11 1 year ago
"Never said the gunman killed 6. said 4."
Right. Did you not see where I corrected myself? It doesn't matter. My point still stands. If he killed four, he killed four. Not six. So find me evidence for millions of Jews.
"But, non-jews. And, being a non-jew. Find that very offensive. Guess the killing of the non-jews was okay."
LOL. I offended you as a "non-Jew"? I'm a non-Jewish American of Polish descent. Get over yourself. I know more non-Jews died than Jews.
Debaser11 1 year ago
But there was no attempt made by the Germans to commit genocide against them, either.
"Thanks for giving me and others I have talked to more reasons to be glad Hitler was stopped! vielen Dank!"
....I wish you would have tried to take some of what I addressed to you to heart.
Debaser11 1 year ago
@Debaser11 The propane tank. You must read that Denier answer book very well. I say one thing and you answer with something else. Said that there are photos of gas vans. And, you come up with answer book #215b. You prove the cloesd little mind concept very well. Little people have them. You have received many comments on your Channel that shows I'm not the only one who thinks you're a joke!
jrwel14 1 year ago
@Debaser11 The japs bombing concept . Perfect example. Let's blame the allies for the conditions of the camps. That's on page 86, answer 725c of the Denier answer book. For the last time. Sie sind Deutsch? Deutsch sprechen? Denn du bist nicht amerikanisch!
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@Debaser11 And, to finish my statement about tradeRoutes. Notice how many joined YouBoob late summer and in the fall of this year. I noticed it when I saw many comments with the same words, same mispellings, from many "people" Discovered that many have a dozen or more accounts. When, one gets terminated for community violations. or receives too many complaints. They change it!
jrwel14 1 year ago
They always say doctored Document, etc. People like him are blind fools.
jrwel14 1 year ago
while Zundel is right about Katyn. There was also a Khatyn massacre done by the Nazis. the 2 towns are not the same. At Khatyn, the Dirlewanger brigade.Made up of criminals was a part of the massacre. They loved killing civilians and getting away with it!
jrwel14 1 year ago
Notice how when asked about freedom of speech in NAZIS germany. Zundel answers that there is alot of freedom of opinion in WEST Germany? He's so typical. Had a person who lived in Nazis Germany tell me that his uncles had to be careful what they said in their home. For, the Gestapo had big ears.
jrwel14 1 year ago 2
@jrwel14 Which makes the Gestapo different from our friends within the KGB during this time in what way?
Debaser11 1 year ago
@Debaser11 Never said that that the Russians were any better or worse. But, unlike you people I do not deny what the nazis did. About the little mind. Have had many debates with Deniers and neo-nazis. Every since I said on 1 video about the P-51 was a great plane. And, got several comments from born after the Berlin wall nazis saying how nazis Germany will rise again and win WW3! The evidence? You people deny ALL videos photos recordings, statements and documents that prove you wrong!
jrwel14 1 year ago