India's Zoroastrian community in downward spiral (News report - Press TV)

[shubroto81]

dude i am hindu, looking at this makes me so sadddd, parsis are awesome ...my boxing coach was parsi ..please save the parsi community ....and save zoroastrianism.

[Hormuzd1]

No amount of government's money is going to reverse the decline in numbers among the Parsis. We have to think hard,in an enlightened manner and ask ourselves why others cannot embrace our noble Zarathushti religion. there are so many Iranis, Kurds and Tajikis who are keen to embrace the religion if allowed to. Failing that we have to rename the community as Neo Zoroastrians and absorb them with grace. After which we can establish our own Agiaris

and pray happily ever after. Shad bashid!!!

[5485Ron]

I believe in the Ahura Mazda as the creator God of all and everything, and I live in America. I care not about the Parsi nor do I wish to join in their religious traditions. I pray to the God I wish and they can not change that.

[MrBbsingh]

Khushrow Madan is absolutely right ! You can be a Zoroastrian but not a Parsi. 'Parsi' is a race, Zoroastrianism is a religion. Let people convert to Zoroastrianism, but do not let them receive any benefits from the Parsi Panchayet, that way the people who convert to Zoroastrianism will do so solely out of love for the religion, not economic or monetary considerations.

[exdelhiwala]

are parsis rich and highly educated in india too in pakistan they are highly educated and are very influential for there tenytiny numbers

[GeorgiaIsOnMyMind]

@TheSpeckofdust

HaHHAHAHA Speckofdust. Well said!

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

@GeorgiaIsOnMyMind What do you mean India did not rule all of India??

Look up the Mauryan empire. Look Gupta empire and Pala empire.

Muslims Mughals who cares? Themselves are Indian. Sure they came into the country as Muslim Mongols, but every Emperor after Akbar the Great was birth by a Rajput Mother.

They themselves are hybrid with Indian in them.

[GeorgiaIsOnMyMind]

@JacobTheIndoAmerican

"India" as we know it today was never a united country. Neither the guptas or the palas ruled india as it is today. They had strange boundaries of their very personal empires. india was never a united political entity, but as a cultural civilization, it's boundaries are the burmese highlands in the east, the himalayas and tibetan plateau in the north, and the Indus river and Iranian plateau (on which half of Pakistan is located) in the west.

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

@GeorgiaIsOnMyMind "India" was united.

Under the Mauryan empire, Mughal empire(Hindustan), and Gupta, Pala empire.

All Indians from South to North, East to West called "India" Bharat, Middle Eastern people "Hind" Westerners India.

As a cultural Civilization, it culture sphere is all of S. Asia, Most of South East Asia, and also East Asia, because of Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.

[Miseritor]

PARSIS

Y U NO ACCEPT CONVERTS?!

[qwerty51899]

WTF.....Does media have any other task than discrediting religion and upholding moral "values" of consumerism, promiscuity and selfishness. I would say media is the MOST potent threat to the civilization...

[qj35]

i dont know about india but in pakistan they are very influential people isfanyar bhandara ,bapsi sidhwa,adhesher cowasjee ,farooq engineer,jamshed marker and the owner of avari groups

[mukulmomo]

parsi women should be given the right to marry non parsee boy.

[australiap]

Viva PERSIAN community everywhere in this world

[kiabadie]

Don't marry out of the Parsi Community.

[bmaj7]

Only Indians would take in an entire ethnic group who in turn will discriminate against Indians themselves. The irony that is India,no wonder Indians are pushed around all over the world. India needs to grow some balls and tell these so called 900 year old tenants they can get back to wherever they claim they're from. India is for all Indians and that includes any physical location. Is there actually Indian laws to support this stupidity?

[MrIndoCanadian]

I wish there are more Parsis in India than Muslims. 

[OhMaDayzz]

@MrIndoCanadian Why do you say that???

[MrIndoCanadian]

@OhMaDayzz Parsis are hard working and an exteremely rich community in India.

[GeorgiaIsOnMyMind]

@MrIndoCanadian

You're a typical slave minded indian. Parsis don't even allow you in to their places of worship because they consider you dirty and you wish there were more Parsis in India than Muslims. At least Muslims don't discriminate on race based reasons. Typical self loathing dark skinned low life indian dying to be around light skinned people (even if they consider him a piece of shit).

[MrIndoCanadian]

@GeorgiaIsOnMyMind That has nothing to do with skin colour u idiot Parsees are a hardworking community Muslims on the other hand in India are poor and do all kind of terrorist attack on Hindus and talking about dark skin I am way lighter than this women shown here.

[GeorgiaIsOnMyMind]

What hapened in 2002? Coward Hindu terrorists carried out a mass genocide of Muslims (mainly women and children). Attoricities against christians and dalits continue. Maybe there should have been no hindus in india, since they commit terrorism against others. The only people who treat hindus like they deserve are the parsees. hindus cannot enter a fire temple because they're dirty; if you marry a hindu, you're excommunicated. Parsees live AWAY from hindus. But hindus cant stop buttkissing parsis

[MrIndoCanadian]

@GeorgiaIsOnMyMind U are funny man u say Parsees do not let Hindus enter their fire temple so do Muslims allow Hindus into their mosques. When Parsees came to India they came as refugees escaping islamic persecution in Iran and when Muslims and Chritsians came to India they came to India as conquerers destroying every part of Hindu and Buddhist heritage. Muslims are only enjoying in India because of Leftist anti Hindu government. Muslims killed tons of Hindus in Kashmir and West Bengal.

[GeorgiaIsOnMyMind]

Even major indian scholars are now calling that story in to question. Parsee genes only show iranian genes from the male side, showing the parsees to be the result of a MALE migration; most probably, iranian trading colonies on the coasts of Sindh/Gujarat. And you must be joking if you think pre-Islamic iranians (aka Zoroastrians) never conquered india. There is a whole Parthian fort located in india, and Zoroastrian/iranian tribes repeatedly conquered india and the hindus were their slaves.

[MrIndoCanadian]

@GeorgiaIsOnMyMind Hindus were never slaves of Parsees but they traded with King Darius. If they tried to destroy Hinduism then it would be mentioned.

[thescorpionking2020]

@GeorgiaIsOnMyMind pre islamic iranians only conquered sum parts of what is now called pakistan,sindh and sum parts of punjab dat 2 during achaemenid empire's time,not a single part of what is now called india,cyrus d gr8 was defeated when he tried to enter what is now callled modern india

[GeorgiaIsOnMyMind]

@thescorpionking2020

You are wrong. The Parthians ruled all of north India which explains the presence of large parthian forts in northern india. These forts are Iranian, not indian. Cyrus was never 'defeated' by Indians. And if it weren't for Pakistani Panjab and Sindh, all of India would have come under Iranian rule, though much of Northern India did.

[thescorpionking2020]

@GeorgiaIsOnMyMind parthians never rule india whr did u get dat from?northern india never came under islamic rule,persians only ruled sindh and sum parts of punjab during d time of achaemenid empire,most of d time thr so called empire in indian subcontinent included mostly balochistan and north westerns parts of pakistan

[GeorgiaIsOnMyMind]

@thescorpionking2020

Balochistan and Pakhtunkhwa are not part of the Asian Subcontinent. They are situated west of the river Indus and located on the Iranian plateau. The Subcontinent ends on the eastern banks of the Indus river. Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan are Iranian countries known in Greek as Bactria and Gedrosia respectively. And you've got to be smoking something when you say that northern India never came under Islamic rule. Who pray then were the Moghuls? Selective amnesia perhaps?:)

[thescorpionking2020]

@GeorgiaIsOnMyMind when did i say north india was not under islamic rule i said persian,persians never ruled any region of modern india

[GeorgiaIsOnMyMind]

@thescorpionking2020

When did you say that? Emm read your comment directly above my comment. :) Wether Persians did or did not rule any region of india may be debatable but the Iranians (not people from modern day "Iran" necessarily) have ruled india through and through both before and after becoming Muslim. You have to remember that the Persians are just one of the Iranian tribes. The Rig Veda points at several Iranian tribes living on the other side of the Sarasvati(Indus River).

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

@GeorgiaIsOnMyMind Parthians never ruled Northern India. These forts built in Northern India are mostly made by Rajputs, and other warlords in the Medieval era.

Nothing to do with Iran.

[GeorgiaIsOnMyMind]

@JacobTheIndoAmerican

You should look it up. Those are parthian forts. Hindu architecture is mound-like with an abundance of statues. That fort is a Parthian fort.

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

@GeorgiaIsOnMyMind Majority of the forts in India are Hindu-Rajput built.

Partians never ruled Northern India.

[GeorgiaIsOnMyMind]

@JacobTheIndoAmerican

Look up the "indo-parthians". They were iranic kings known as Gondenpharen kings in western literature who ruled india.

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

@GeorgiaIsOnMyMind No need to look it up, I know of them. They ruled North-West India, NOT Northern India or India as a whole.. The forts that you see in Northern India are built along after the Indo-Parthians. They are built by mostly Hindu Rajputs, and Muslims.

What is "ruled India"? You mean a small part of India??

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

@GeorgiaIsOnMyMind "Hindu architecture is mound-like with an abundance of statues."

I can tell you have no Idea of what you are talking about. That is SOUTHERN Indian architecture. Northern Indian especially Rajput architecture looks nothing like that,

[GeorgiaIsOnMyMind]

@JacobTheIndoAmerican

That's because the Muslims influenced north india with everything from architecture, dress, language, food etc. Even so temples in north india follow the hindu architectural design.

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

@GeorgiaIsOnMyMind Northern India was influenced by the Mughals. And the many other kingdoms and empires that ruled it. It blends local culture with some outside ones. What country doesnt?

Iran is a good example of using other peoples culture, Arabic style script, Arabic religion(Islam), etc.

[GeorgiaIsOnMyMind]

@JacobTheIndoAmerican

Islam isn't Arabic religion. It belongs to all of humanity. The reason you think that way is because in hinduism, race equals religion. That is not the way it is with Islam and other Abrahamic religions such as Christianity.

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

@GeorgiaIsOnMyMind

I am a Christian and I know this is a foreign culture/religion to India. Islam is something that was manifested in Arabia which is completely foreign to the previous cultures of Iran, Central Asia, South Asia, etc.

With Arabian Invasion Zoroastrians converted and the Iranians used this foreign culture as their own.

[GeorgiaIsOnMyMind]

@JacobTheIndoAmerican

Christianity in actuality comes from Palestine. So by that regard, the Europeans are using a foriegn culture as their own, which they spread to you, and you converted from hinduism to this foriegn culture and adopted it as your own. So by that regard, everyone is following a foriegn culture in some way, shape or form.

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

@GeorgiaIsOnMyMind Ya, I know Christianity started in the Middle East.

I am not a Catholic, Protestant, etc. I'm a Orthodox Christian, no European brought this to India, matter a fact European Catholics, Protestants, etc persecuted Orthodox Christians.

[GeorgiaIsOnMyMind]

@JacobTheIndoAmerican

Christinianity in india is a result of european colonization. This is a fact. There were no Christians in india before the arrival of European colonists there.

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

@GeorgiaIsOnMyMind "This is a fact. There were no Christians in india before the arrival of European colonists there."

You don't know what you're talking about. Look up Syrian Christian, Google Christianity in India.

Christianity has been in India longer then most of Europe, this doesn't mean it got big.

My sect of Christianity is Orthodox Christianity, which no Western Euro(Brits,French, Port.,etc) practice.

Euros in India ONLY spread their own sects Catholicism,protestantism,etc.

[GeorgiaIsOnMyMind]

@JacobTheIndoAmerican

It is generally accepted that there were no Christians in india before the arrival of the British, regardless of sect. The Syrians, Aremnians etc came as immigrants during the time of the British and settled around Bombay. Indian Christians were mainly low caste hindus who embraced Christianity. Regardless of this diversionary, the point was that if embracing an ideology not originating in one's own home country goes, then everybody is following someone else's culture.

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

@GeorgiaIsOnMyMind Buddy you have no clue of what you are talking about. "Syrian" Christians are not "Syrian". The ones that I am talking about are the ones in Kerala.

Kerala(State in India) had continuous trade with the Middle East through the Arabian sea.

The First Christians, Muslims, and Jewish in South Asian and most of world was in that area. The first Mosque, Church, and synagogue in ALL of South Asia was built there.

[JacobTheIndoAmerican]

@GeorgiaIsOnMyMind

Please read up before you open your mouth.

In Kerala the first Mosque was built before the Zoro-Sassanids fell to the Muslims. The first Christians arrived there long before Europeans were colonizing.

[GeorgiaIsOnMyMind]

@JacobTheIndoAmerican

Well I differ, but either way, the christian indians were converted to Christianity, just like the Muslims, so by your own argument, both are "following foreign culture".

[GeorgiaIsOnMyMind]

@MrIndoCanadian

Actually, there are no provisions against hindus (or other non Muslims) from entering a Mosque, and non-Muslims enter Mosques all the time, as guests. So nice try there. Furthermore, far more Muslims (2002 anti-Muslim genocide in Gujarat) and Christians (2009 Christian Genocide in Orissa) have been murdered by hindus than the other way around. Furthermore, there is no proof parsees came to india "to escape Muslims". That is merely a romanticsized hoax".

[MrIndoCanadian]

@GeorgiaIsOnMyMind Muslims do not let Non Muslims into their mosques. I know that very well. I do not hate Christians though but Evangelists as they keep on saying Hindusim is false and stuff like that. The reason why some Hindus may hate Christians though is that they rember the British and Portuguese rule which destroyed a huge part of India.

[23Anirudh]

@GeorgiaIsOnMyMind what is a shithole, pornistani like u doing here?! i mean FUCK U GUYS.. u r everywhere like a disease.. aur behanchod tu khud to baitha hai America me apne jhaat jaise desh ko chood ke.. jahan pe Pakistaniyon ki jhaas taur pe gaand phodi jaati hai aur hume gulam kehta hai.. aur gandu tu apne aap ko Indian hi batata hoga wahan pe apni gand bachane ke liye :D:D.. apna naam badal ke "TattiInmyMind" kar le :D

[GeorgiaIsOnMyMind]

@23Anirudh

Nigger gandian, it's laughable to think that a racial lesser like YOU should have even the slightest inclination to think that you could be better than someone else, when in fact you belong to the most ridiculed race on the planet lol What happened? Couldn't contininue the paragragh in English? Had a brain fart didn't you ha ha ha The reason you ugly people use sexual innuendo in your retorts is because you don't have valid points of you. Dumb ass ugly fuckin indian low life ha!

[GeorgiaIsOnMyMind]

@MrIndoCanadian

You're the idiot slave minded indian. Muslims are poor in india? LoL Heck EVERYONE is poor in india. Poverty is rampant and if you added up by religious groups, I'm sure poor hindus would outnumber everyone, especially since they are the largest religious group. Muslims do terrorist attack on hindus? LOL More like the other way around! Hindus do terrorist attacks on Muslims, Christians as well as low caste hindus too! lol

[kataboa]

but a research showed they are genetically quite similair to the modern iranians.

[bueyokyan]

the most absurd thing about this "tradition" is that parsis in india obviously have a physical resemblance with their neighbors, and those in iran with their neighbors. a clear indication that in 800 years there has been a substantial amount of "mixing". this type of denial of the obvious is found in many places and is sadly just typical human stupidity. perhaps it is also an embarrassed denial of the fact that you can't always be sure who is the baby daddy. all the parsis should go on maury!

[OhMaDayzz]

@bueyokyan No it is because when the Parsis arrived in India they were mainly men, and very few women, so many of them took Hindu wives. But generally the Parsis do look different from Indians, e.g. look at Freddie Mercury.

[MrBbsingh]

@bueyokyan It depends on the sample you look at, a great many Parsis resemble caucasians, in fact a vast majority do, it is only now that intermixing is becoming more prevalent but the ancient customs still dominate. PARSIS DON'T MARRY OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY PRESERVE YOUR GLORIOUS HERITAGE !